Friday, December 16, 2005

Remington Airmaster 77 - just right for Christmas!

A rifle that I have passed by for some time is the Remington Airmaster 77. It's pretty impressive when you hold it in your hands, and I think it represents a great value - especially when you take advantage of a deal Pyramyd Air is offering right now. More about that later!

Unusual looks!
This is a most unusual-looking air rifle. The stock and forearm are matte black plastic, and the receiver is matte black metal. The outer barrel is brushed nickel, which contrasts very nicely with the dark gun.

Nice open sights!
The gun comes with a scope, which I'll get to, but there is also a very nice set of open sights. The front is a fiber optic green bead, and the rear U-shaped notch fits it perfectly! Usually, there's a mismatch between front and rear with fiber optics, and I never know exactly where the bead should go when I sight. But, the sights on this Remington line up very naturally! The rear sight adjusts in both directions.

It shoots BBs and pellets!
Although the barrel is rifled steel, this gun is built to take BOTH BBs and pellets. The BBs are loaded 200 at a time through a port in the grip cap. Then, you load a smaller spring-loaded magazine on the left side of the receiver by inverting the gun and transferring BBs by gravity. DO NOT dump pellets into the BB reservoir - they will only jam the mechanism.

Pellets are loaded one at a time through a loading port on the right side of the receiver. It opens when you pull the bolt back to cock the gun. The port is made to accommodate your fingers, and I find this to be an easy gun to load. It makes little difference to the firing rate whether you choose a BB or a pellet. BBs are simply a little easier because they're stored inside the gun for automatic loading, while the pellets have to be inserted through the port. The rifle must have NO BBs in it when you want to shoot pellets. I would personally use the Airmaster 77 as a pellet rifle and forget the BBs.

Nicely sized!
Though this rifle is probably intended for a younger shooter, it is sized for an adult. The weight of 4-3/4 lbs. and the thick, solid-feeling stock and forearm make it feel substantial. A while back, I suggested guns to put behind the door or out in the shed for pest control. I'd like to add this one to the list as long as we aren't going after squirrels and rabbits. For grackles, starlings, pigeons, sparrows, and rats, this would be potent medicine!

It comes with a scope
The rifle is sold as a kit, which includes a 4x scope that has its own mounts. It's not a premium airgun scope by any means, but if you would like to try a scoped airgun, there aren't many priced like this. Since the mounts are on the scope when it comes, all you need to do is slide the ring bases on the receiver dovetails, tighten two screws and your rifle is scoped!

This is a Remington!
Crosman makes the rifle, but Remington puts their name on it. That will be important to collectors in the future, so hang on to that box and all the stuff inside.

It's a multi-pump pneumatic
You can put up to 10 pumps in the Airmaster, which means you can control how hard it shoots. For indoor target practice, three pumps are sufficient. For popping grackles at 25-30 yards, I'd take it up to the limit. Remington advertises a velocity of 725 f.p.s. with a 7.9-grain .177 lead pellet, which is a little faster than the Beeman R7. That is serious power, so this gun is to be taken seriously, by which I mean that you can use it for light hunting and pest elimination. The ability to vary the power by the number of pumps is a very handy feature.

And the REALLY good news...
If you'd like to save a bundle on one of these rifles and don't mind a remanufactured gun, Pyramyd is selling them for just $49.95! They include the scope and rings at that price, but not the BBs, pellets, targets or safety goggles. A remanufactured gun has been sent back to Crosman's repair department and repaired to shoot like new. Many times, however, the reason for the return wasn't the gun's fault - the customers simply return them, and company sends all of them back to Crosman. So, you could end up with a peach of an airgun for very little money. Other than getting a used gun, I don't know where there's another deal like this anywhere at this time.

208 Comments:

At December 17, 2005 10:25 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

BB, how accurate is this rifle?

Never having used a scope before, what is the useful range of this 4x scope for bird sized targets?

Thanks!

 
At December 18, 2005 6:43 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

You should be able to keep your shots on a nickel at 15 yards and a quarter at 25. That's about the farthest shot you want to make.

4X scopes are used to hunt deer at 150 yards, so range is not a problem with them. You should be able to hit a bird-sized target at 50 yards when sighting through a 4X scope.

B.B.

 
At December 22, 2005 2:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree the Remington 77 is a decent inexpensive gun, especially when purchased as refurb.

However, I take issue with the notion that the loading port is made to accomodate fingers. At least adult sized fingers. Best I can do is drop pellets in halfway and hope they don't land backwards.

I shoot BBs half the time. At 2-4 pumps, it's reasonably accurate repeater. Pellets, of course, do much better.

 
At December 24, 2005 8:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm looking to buy my first bb gun. Should I look for a combo (bb and pellet) or should i look for one or the other? Are bb's less accurate in a combo? Also at what power can you start killing a squirrel?

 
At December 25, 2005 6:33 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

I would avoid a BB gun for any kind of hunting.

I will use your questions for a posting this week. Watch for it.

B.B.

 
At December 25, 2005 6:33 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

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At January 07, 2006 12:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you sight in the scope?

 
At January 07, 2006 3:30 PM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

There are several scope tips to help- you sight in. Use the search feature on the current blog, and also go to the September 30 blog for an index back to March.

B.B.

 
At January 22, 2006 5:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe you can help. Bought the Rem 77 six months ago...mainly yard pest control. Just picked it up and can't get the pump to pack any pressure. It just pumps and pumps and pumps and pumps. Any ideas? It's probably been shot less than 100 times.

 
At January 23, 2006 7:58 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

You may need to oil the pump head. When you move the pump lever all the way forward, you can see a dark felt washer through the slot in the bottom of the pump mechanism tube. Ahead of that washer is the actual pump head seal. It looks slick compared to the pump rod. Oil the felt washer with 5 drops of a good lubricating oil. The owner's manual recommends Crosman Pellgunoil, but 3-in-One will work, too.

Please tell me if this fixes your problem.

B.B.

 
At March 01, 2006 11:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got a refurbed AirMaster the other day and it seems like a solid winner. Heckuva value, just like BB says. I doubt it will ever become a collector's item, but at $50, who cares. It looks quite a bit like its big and powerful firearms brother, the Remington 7400 Weathermaster deer rifle, only it's 7/8s size.

It is pretty accurate right out of the box, and that's without even trying out the scope (yet).

The multi-pump pneumatic is a bit of a chore if you haven't the arm-strength for it, so it's not the best choice for a young child. But at least you can keep the power level down when shooting indoors, and the extra pumps don't really seem to add all that much more velocity for outdoor use. All in all, it looks like a winner.

TS

 
At March 01, 2006 12:13 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

TS,

A refurbished gun, no less. And it works okay?

Please tell us what you think after you mount the scope.

B.B.

 
At April 06, 2006 3:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a remington 77 and i really like it. Feels like a solid gun. pumping is easy if you hold the pistol grip with your right hand, put the stock on your upper right leg and pump with your left arm or... you can put your left hand on the pump where it normally is, put your right hand just above the left hand on the pump and put the stock against your upper right leg again. I use the first one more than the second...
also to put the pellet in i find that its easier so either roll it in (works 90% of the time) or pinch the pellet at the end so it shoots into the loading chamber (works 80% of the time).I like the scope for it.. cheapish but good enough for what i do... also it is very clear and dosnt get blurry easliy ( as others ive seen)
at an angle.
all in all i rate it
9.8/10
(plastic seems weak... but is very strong IMO)

 
At April 26, 2006 2:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also have a 77. Great first gun! I agree about the loading port being too small, and I use the rolling technique to load pellets. I also had problems with it losing power at about 100 shots, and lubing the wiper ring with a few shots of oil did the trick. I recommend a few drops every 20 shots or so, because my long range accuracy starts to change. as for hunting, I don't recommend it, HOWEVER!!! I bought mine for rabbit elimination. Because I work second shift, I use it after midnight in the yard, under only moonlight. The scope works well if you can concentrate, and I have yet to miss a rabbit under 30 yards. I've gone up to 50 in low light. Something to keep in mind. IF YOU ARE GOING TO KILL, KEEP THE WIPER RING LUBED WELL!!!! I let it go for a while, and hit a target at 20 yard. it only injured it, and I had to chase it around to put it out of it's misery... NOT HUMANE. Proper sighting, and a PROPERLY operating 77 works very well for my yard pest control. As a side note I use RWS hollowpoints or spearpoints for pest elimination, and they work every time.

 
At May 08, 2006 8:20 PM, Blogger Rogue_Sniper said...

Great rifle. Good for pest control, target shooting and small game hunting, if you count the rabbits and squirls in my yard as small game.

 
At May 08, 2006 8:22 PM, Blogger Rogue_Sniper said...

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At May 22, 2006 8:00 PM, Blogger QUA'S UMA said...

Ive had the 77 for over 5 years now and ive used it to death. I used it with the scope mostly and used pellets most of the time(crosman premier hollows and Copperhead points) The gun worked very well and was perfect for starlings and plinking. I did have a problem with pellets flipping backwards when loading into the chamber but i would just tilt the gun down and drop the pellet in point first to get it right. Unfortunately to gun wont hold any air and i have oiled it up yet it still wont work so for now its a cool toy :D

 
At May 22, 2006 8:47 PM, Blogger Cesarf25s said...

I just ordered a crosman 1000x .22 cal from pyramid.I've read good and bad reviews on the rifle. I was wondering if i can get tips from you guys on how to get the best out of it. Help me please :)

The remington airmaster 77 kit is a great combo. I've seen great ratings and reviews on this rifle. I've tried the daisy 880, crosman 764b, daisy 901, and the rem airmaster 77. The crosman 764b gave me 1/2 " groups at 15'. The 880 diasy scattered everywhere. 2" away from the targeted area at most at 15'. The 901 gave me great 1" groups at 10 yards. The Air master almost made me cry by giving me a 3/4" group at 15 yards. I used Gamo Rockets, Crosman premier hollow points, Daisy pointed pellet precision max,
and Gamo Raptors. I got the best accuracy out of the rockets. The rockets are the the heavier steel tipped pellets.


So if your looking for a nice accurate cheap multi pump rifle for plinking. Grab a remington airmaster 77 kit.

If you are getting rid of pests and want a rifle around the same price. Grab yourself a Daisy 22SG .22 cal. You can grab one at pyramid for under 100 dollars. I read great reviews and ratings. Not very powerful but the .22 cal pellet will make up for that. I hear its very accurate.I had to choose between the 22sg and the quest i purchased. I picked the quest for the higher power. I know power isnt always a good thing.

 
At June 05, 2006 4:46 AM, Blogger Cesarf25s said...

BB,

What ammunition would you recommend for use in this rifle???

I can't find the rockets anywhere. I use wadcutters now but they group just Ok. They also tend to curve like bb's do when I shoot them and 5 pumps or higher.

 
At June 05, 2006 5:20 AM, Blogger Cesarf25s said...

- at five pumps or higher. -

Can i use 3 in 1 oil???

 
At June 20, 2006 2:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

BB,

r u familiar with the daisy shatter blast targets? If you are would you recomend them?

also, what is the difference between all these pellet types? I have no ideah what to look for. I,m goin to use this gun for pest control mainly squirels and i could realy use your help w/ this question!

THANKS!

 
At June 20, 2006 3:47 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

I have used Shatterblasts and I do like them.

Now for a pellet for the Remington rifle, any wadcutter (flat-nosed target pellet) is good out to 15 yards. The Crosman premier domed pellet is good beyond that, and so is the lighter JSB domed pellet. I believe the domed pellets will be better on squirrels.

B.B.

 
At July 06, 2006 5:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a question for anyone who knows. I am going to purchase this rifle. It looks nice (nice review by the way, B.B.), I will be using primarily BBs, although I will buy a tin of pellets as well. Will the rifled barrel of this gun meant for pellets make BBs any less accurate? Thanks.

 
At July 06, 2006 6:00 PM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

No,

When an airgun is made for both BBs and pellets, it will not be less accurate than a BB gun with BBs. It will only be less accurate than a dedicated pellet rifle with pellets, though this Remington seems to do a fine job.

B.B.

 
At August 01, 2006 8:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm going to buy it today i'm only 9 years old so i have to go with my mom i want to get a gun licens

 
At August 02, 2006 7:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, im thinking of buying a pellet gun and i just want to know, if i were to buy a pellet gun, would i be able to shoot bb's even if they are the same calibre?

 
At August 03, 2006 6:15 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

Pellets and BBs,

BBs are not the same caliber as pellets - despite what the packages say. A steel BB in 0.173" in diameter, while a .177 pellet is 0.177" or larger. And most pellet guns are rifled in a way that BBs will destroy the barrel if you shoot them.

There are some airguns with special rifling that cannot be harmed by steel BBs. The Remington Airmaster 77 that is the subject of this posting is one such gun.

If you want to shoot both BBs and pellets you have to make sure the gun you buy is made for it. Guns made to shoot both will always be advertised that way.

B.B.

 
At August 23, 2006 7:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've just buyed an air master 77. There was no user manual with it, and i must admit that i'm not able to load the gun at all. How am i supposed to fill it with 200 BBs?

I dont know nothing about guns ; and, as you may have noticed, don'T talk english currently : so i'd appreciate if you would be quite clear in ansewring.

Thanks

 
At August 24, 2006 6:50 PM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

Rather that
n me rewriting the manual, just go to Pyramyd Air's website and read it there. Scroll to the bottom of the home page and click on "manuals." Scroll down until you find what you want.

B.B.

 
At September 17, 2006 6:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quick question:
I shoot BEEMAN .177 Kodiak Extra Heavy pellets with this gun, or are they too heavy? I noticed they were not on the recomended ammo list.

 
At September 18, 2006 6:46 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

There is no such thing as a pellet that is too heavy or too light with a multi-pump pneumatic. The Kodiaks are not recommended for this rifle because they are too heavy to stabilize properly at the slow speed they will be driven, and thus they should be inaccurate at longer ranges. But if you are using them and they serve your purpose, keep on doing so.

B.B.

 
At October 11, 2006 6:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thinking about purchasing the R 77. All the talk I read is about small game. My problem is a raccoon. Will the rifle be able to take him down at close range?
Thanks

 
At October 13, 2006 6:28 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

Honestly, I do not recommend shooting a raccoon with the Remington Airmaster 77. If you do it. the shot has to be a head shot from less than 10 yards, and that's extremely dangerous because Raccoons are known carriers of rabies.

A much better choice for your needs would be a Sheridan Blue Streak.

B.B.

 
At December 14, 2006 8:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am young and I would like to get
the R77. How far will it be acurate to?

 
At December 15, 2006 6:24 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

A Gamo R77 will shoot 2-inch groups at 25 feet in the hands of a good pistol shot. It's not noted for its accuracy. The S&W 586 will shoot 1-inch groups at the same distance, but of course it costs a lot more. Crosman's 357 is almost as accurate as the S&W 586 and it costs less than the R77.

B.B.

 
At December 20, 2006 4:01 PM, Anonymous Matt said...

In you thing it says to make sure no BBs are in the gun when you shoot Pellets, does this include the

"The BBs are loaded 200 at a time through a port in the grip cap."

So when you say

"The rifle must have NO BBs in it when you want to shoot pellets"

Does that mean just the Thing you put the 200 in or the thing you put the pellets in?

 
At December 20, 2006 4:56 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

No BBs in the gun. Yes it is possible to keep the BBs in the reservoir without loading one, as long as the smaller reservoir has no BBs in it, but that's too difficult to remember.

No BBs.

B.B.

 
At December 20, 2006 6:30 PM, Anonymous Matt said...

Is there anyway i can lock the reservoir so no more bbs can come in, then put a pellet in and shoot?

 
At December 21, 2006 5:44 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Matt,

You don't have to do that. All you have to do is not load the internal magazine. Careful gun handling will achieve your goal.

B.B.

 
At December 21, 2006 7:15 AM, Anonymous Matt said...

So as long as theres no BBs in the smaller part were you put the pellets in one at a time?

Sorry to be so confusing, first Pellet gun!

 
At December 21, 2006 8:49 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

In the owner's manual in chaper 4 they describe how to transfer BBs from thje 200-round reservoir to the visual magazine located on the left side of the receiver.

What I am saying is that if there are no BBs in the visual magazine, then a BB will not be picked up by the magnetic bolt tip when you withdraw the both to cock the gun. If there is no BB there, you can load a lead pellet.

So don't fill the visual magazine from the reservoir. like they show in figure 4 and you will be able to pellets while there are still BBs in the gun.

B.B.

 
At December 23, 2006 3:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was just wondering, I live in Canada, and was asking to find out if you need a F.A. License to purchase any airguns?

 
At December 24, 2006 7:57 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Canada,

As I understand Canadian law, any airgun that does not produce over 500 f.p.s. is exempt from the law. If it goes faster than 500 f.p.s., it is considered a firearm.

B.B.

 
At December 28, 2006 6:00 PM, Anonymous Josh said...

Hey, i just got one, and I noticed that the scope was, not accurate at all.. So I was wondering if there is a way I can adujust it?
thanks a lot

 
At December 29, 2006 6:32 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Josh,

The scope adjusts by the two adjustment knobs. I assume you know that, so what are you asking?

A scope is never "accurate." The gun is accurate. The scope only directs the gun. If the gun will not group less than 2 inches, nothing the scope does will improve that.

I really don't know what you are asking.

B.B.

 
At December 30, 2006 10:54 AM, Anonymous Josh said...

yeh, my question was not very clear, but I just making sure that the scope was adjustable.
thanks.

 
At December 30, 2006 11:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey im 14 and i just got a remington A.M. 77 for christmas. its awesome, i used to have a crosman 760 pumpmaster but it got lost when i moved to florida. its really nice, i just gotta get some bb's and pellets for it.

thx for the help with the loading instructions. i thought there was something fishy about the bottom of the grip. lol thx again

 
At December 30, 2006 5:09 PM, Anonymous Sean said...

Dear B.B.,
My remington airmaster 77 just came in a few days ago, and I have some questions about it
First, I am a "noob" there for have no knowledge about air rifles etc.
When is says up to 10 pumps, does that mean i extend it all the
way out so it almost touches the barrel, and then pump it 10 times, but not locking it back to place?
Or do I extend it fully, then lock it back into place and repeat that process 10 times

My last question is, I read through some of the more reasent reviews, and about the scope. I was talking to my freind and he said i had to zero it with the knobs and such, but on my scope, the knobs do not turn.

so my question is: Should those knobs be turning? if not, are there "better" scopes that are compatible with the Remington airmaster 77?

thanz for your times..

Sean

 
At December 30, 2006 6:01 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Sean,

Your new airtgun came with an owners manual that shows exactly how to pump the gun. The drawing is on the left column, labled Figure 2.

The scope adjustments are located under removable caps in the center of the scope. Unscrew the caps and you will find silver-colored adjustment screws. They have a slot for inserting a coin to turn them.

Your scope is inexpensive and does not have audible clicks as the knobs turn, so pay attention to the markings on the knob. Move the screws in the same direction that you want to pellet to go. They are marked which direction to turn, but the markings are very faint.

B.B.

 
At January 08, 2007 7:07 PM, Blogger Always2000 said...

hello I just have a quick question. I just got an airmaster 77 and I am not really sure how often and how to oil it. I have looked all over the internet for instructions but I could'nt find anything :( Thank you for the help

 
At January 10, 2007 9:40 PM, Anonymous p_h said...

I recently recieved a remington 77 for christmas. I had expierence with air rifles before but never had owned one and was immeditally impressed with the accuracy right out of the box. Its a pretty good distance gun but i wouldnt reccomend hunting small game at a distance. I have been able to take out some grey squirrels with a well placed head shot. I reccomend only using sharp or hollow tip pellets if you are planning on killing small game. Never use bbs for they will only lead to a slow painful inhumane death. (which is why i always pop a cap in them from about 2 yards after they have stopped moving). i was also impressed by the durability of the plastic parts. at first i was a little skeptical about it but hey, it leads to an over all lighter gun and its strong. if you have any feed back or tips please email me at "doodkrew@yahoo.com"

 
At January 25, 2007 2:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quick Question: I was thinking of ordering some round ball pellets for this gun, specificly the H&N Round Copper Balls. Can these be put in the BB resevior for faster loading, or do these have to be loaded via the pellet loading port? Thanks.

 
At January 25, 2007 2:52 PM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

Loading port.

B.B.

 
At January 30, 2007 11:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is the BB loading mechanism too small to allow a lead ball through? Or should one not load round pellets for prudence sake?

Thanks.

 
At January 31, 2007 8:20 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

I would guess the BB loading mechanism might pass a lead ball but why take the change of stopping up the gun?

B.B.

 
At January 31, 2007 5:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My motivation was to able to shoot 200 rounds accurately past 50 ft or so. Or if I'm shooting with my friends, be able to switch from ball to BB depending on what they've to offer. I realized something though: steel is easier to magnetize than lead or copper and if the mechanism relies partly or solely on magnetism then there might be trouble loading one up. Just a thought.

 
At January 31, 2007 5:21 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

I forget whether the bolt has a magnetic tip, but of course lead isn't ferrous, so it cannot be held by a magnet.

Still, I would load lead balls one at a time like pellets.

B.B.

 
At February 05, 2007 2:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi, I know this blog was posted over a year ago but I just recently looked into the Airmaster. Have you experience with the Daisy 901 and how it compares to this gun? My friend has a Powerline 901 and it's a pretty good gun for just under the price of the Airmaster but the Airmaster just looks better. Can you recommend one over the other? This blog has been extremely helpful!

 
At February 05, 2007 6:34 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

The AirMaster and 901 are equivalent air rifles, but as you note, the Remington comes out on top in a few particulars. I don't have experience with the 901, but I assume it's similar to the AirMaster in accuracy and power.

Go with your instincts.

B.B.

 
At February 06, 2007 9:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi, I'm planning to buy the Remington77 and since mail takes a long time to get here I'm buying Ammo together, So which Brand of Pellets would you Recommend for Small Game Hunting/Pest Control? (Sorry if I wrote this Twice, could not find my entry and thought I might have done something wrong.)

 
At February 06, 2007 2:12 PM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

Try Gamo Match, RWS Hobby, Beeman Silver Bear and Crosman Premier.

B.B.

 
At February 09, 2007 4:52 PM, Anonymous Doug said...

I have a quick question . . .

I've had a AM77 for about 2 years, using it only about 4-5 days (when we go to the country for holidays). It has worked great each time. However, today I pulled it out of the closet, and it wouldn't work!?!

Everything seems to work fine except for the pump action. There is no resistance when pumping, and it does not "store” any pressure. When you pump it up and pull the trigger, it makes a thump sound, and the BB stays in the barrel. I just read in an earlier post that I need to oil it. I plan to do that, but it looks like something else is wrong. BTW, will any oil work?

While I am certainly no gun guru, in my mind the plunger in the pump barrel looks small. When the pump is fully open, there is a small plastic piece about 3" long attached to the hinge. It looks like there should be something attached to it. Is that correct? I never looked at it while it was working, but my guess is that a piece has broken off and remains lodged inside the pump barrel. Is there any hope for it or will it spend the rest of its life in my sons toy chest as a "toy" gun? Thanks in advance for the help, doug

 
At February 09, 2007 5:19 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Doug,

I think oil will put you back in the game. You describe the pump head, and the seal is the last part on it. You should be able to see about 1/16" of the seal in the slot with the pump handle as far forward as it will go.

Put about 10 drops of oil on the foam wiper just behind the pump head seal. It will deposite the oil on the walls of the compression cylinder and you'll be in business.

As far as what oil to use, Crosman Pellgunoil is the best. Lacking that, any oil that you can buy at a major sporting goods store (Gander Mountain, Cabelas, etc.) that has an airgun maker's name on it) e.g. Gamo Gun oil, Beeman spring cylinder oil, RWS chamber lube, etc.

What you want is as pure a silicone oil as you can buy - not the hinge lubricant in the aerosol can at Home Depot, but real silicone oil with a high flashpoint. Try a paintball shop next. They are bound to have something.

B.B.

 
At February 09, 2007 11:58 PM, Anonymous Doug said...

Oh great master of the BB gun . . .

First off, thanks for the fast reply. I did not expect such expediency in this matter. Secondly, I think you have some super powers, as it seems the simple laying on of hands has done the trick.

To make a long story even longer, my AM77 has received a great deal of attention today. While I don't know why it happened, I did in fact determine (based on your post) that there was a problem with the plunger. This afternoon I thought I'd take my son out to shoot it, but as you know, it wouldn't work. Trying to be a smart guy, I began disassembling it. In 5 minutes I had about 20 pieces laid out with no idea how to get them back in. Over the course of an hour I figured out most the reassembly, and an EVP (diagram) emailed from crosman helped put ol' humpty back together.

That didn't fix anything, but at least it was no worse than before. Then after reading your post tonight I realized that the plunger had come unattached from the pump mechanism. However, I couldn't find a way to get the plastic piece to "catch" the plunger inside the barrel. I was about to take it apart again when I decided to give a few firm pumps, followed by a pulling the pump open slowly. Sure enough, the last time the plastic piece came out with a larger metal plunger attached to it. Then it looked just as you described.

So, I am back in action. I oiled it (the only oil I had was some pneumatic oil used for tools), and it seemed to pump smoothly. However, I still don’t know why it separated from the plunger or if it will happen again. My guess is that it spent so long standing up, the oil might have drained to “the bottom of the barrel” so to speak. At least it works . . . and for that, thank you!

Now for two more questions . . .
Should I even consider shooting it in my backyard? I guess I need to check with the local laws. And secondly, is there a ballpark figure of fps for each pump using a standard bb (i.e. 1 pump 200 fps, 2 pumps 350 fps, etc). I want to keep it slow as possible without the bb rolling out of the gun. It's sole purpose is as a target gun. I just wanted to put a target on a big box and have at it with my son. At any rate, thanks again for your help, it is greatly appreciated. doug

 
At February 10, 2007 7:35 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

Doug,

It sounds like the seal is a snap fit on the plunger. If so, keeping the gun lubricated should be the remedy.

Now for the backyard. Lead pellets will be vastly more accurate than steel BBs. Three or four pumps are your minimum. Let's try four, since your pump head seal may have dried out a little and may not pump quite as much air as it once did. That should give you about 350 f.p.s. which is fine for targets.

Crosman wadcutter pellets that you can buy at Wal-Mart are great in that gun. Don't forget to wear safety glasses when you shoot.

Have fun and safe shooting.

B.B.

 
At February 14, 2007 7:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi im about to buy an am 77 and tried to find the laws bout hunting small game, squirrels birds, in virginia, but i couldnt find anything about hunting with airguns. i live in the subarbs and need to control the squirell poupulation in my back yard plz can sombody help me you guys have already helped me to decide to buy the am 77 over the pumpmaster 760,

Thanks alot

 
At February 15, 2007 7:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

is the airmaster 77 good quality?

 
At February 15, 2007 8:13 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

AirMaster 77,

Yes the AirMaster 77 is good quality, but it isn't a hunting airgun. And the 760 PumpMaster is even less so.

For squirrels and birds, look at the Benjamin 392.

For game laws and airguns, you need to contact the Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries. Most state do not permit hunting regulated (lisense required) game with airguns, but check to make sure.

B.B.

 
At February 15, 2007 9:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

thanks b.b.,


if the airmaster 77 is my only choice and only thing i can afford do you think its good enough for small bird and squirrels?

thanks again you are the most reliable and helpful source on the whole internet!!

 
At February 15, 2007 9:21 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry above i ment pests in my backyard

 
At February 15, 2007 9:41 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

If you keep the shots close (50 feet or less) then the AirMaster can do the job. Just be sure you can always hit a quarter at the distance at which you shoot.

I would really prefer to see you shooting a Daisy Powerline 22SG for this work because it is a .22, but a careful shot can do okay with a .177.

B.B.

 
At February 16, 2007 5:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am about to buy am 77, the only question I have is how loud is am 77 comparing with gamo s1k and benjamin 397 ? Thanks in advance

 
At February 16, 2007 7:11 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

I don't know what a Gamom s1k is. The Remington AirMaster 77 will be quieter than the Benjamin 397, but not by much.

B.B.

 
At February 17, 2007 2:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi B.B.,

i just got a AM77 and am satisfied with its power but dont know which of the 5 levels i should put the sight thing on for accurate aim without the scope(which is great).
Thanks

 
At February 17, 2007 2:45 PM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

aqbvcd
If you are referring to the rear sight elevator, put it on the level where your pellet strikes the target closest at the distance you plan to shoot. That elevator adjusts the sight bfor different distances, so adjust it to hit what you aim at.

B.B.

 
At February 18, 2007 9:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

thanks B.B.

 
At February 18, 2007 5:40 PM, Anonymous Scott said...

Hey fellows,

I'm looking into buying this rifle and I read through all the questions and responses and I was curious of two things.

1) [This one is kinda of straight forward]
How do you pump the gun? Which part do you use? I don't have it yet so I can read the instruction manual, but I'm curious to see which part is used.

2) Is there any info on oiling the rifle in the manual? If not, will BBs instructions coincide with the manual...

ex. when you say

"Put about 10 drops of oil on the foam wiper just behind the pump head seal. It will deposite the oil on the walls of the compression cylinder and you'll be in business."

Will I know where the pump head seal and compression cylinder are? lol.

Thanks for any response :)

 
At February 19, 2007 6:46 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Scott,

You say that you've read the manual and not found where the oil the gun. Section 8, Mainenance, deals wioth it. Figure 12 shows the pump handle you asked about, which is how the gun is pumped. It also shows where the pump cup is located and how to oil it. Figure 2 shows exactly how to pump the rifle.

There is no compression cylinder. That's on a spring piston gun. This gun has a pump cup that forces air into a reservoir. If you want to think of the pump tube forming a compression cylinder with the pump cup at one end and the air inlet valve at the other, that would be fine.

Scott, instead of saying "I CAN see the manual," did you mean to say" I CAN'T see the manual?" Because you can. It's on the Pyramyd Air website.

Scroll to the bottom of the home page and double click on the word Manuals at the bottom left of the page. That takes you to a HUGE list of manuals online. scroll down until you find the Remingtin AirMaster 77 manual.

B.B.

 
At February 20, 2007 4:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

B.B.,

W/ 10 pumps and a 8-10g pellet could i take out hares/rabbit at 25y? I've already made up my mind to buy the Airmaster 77, but a little reasurance would still be nice :-). I want it for target practice and casual small game hunting.

 
At February 21, 2007 5:57 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

The 77 is a little light for hares, but fine for cottontails at 25 yards, max.

B.B.

 
At February 21, 2007 1:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

B.B.,

For relatively close range small game hunting (jacks and squirrels, at less that 35y), would you recomend dome or flat pellets

 
At February 22, 2007 9:28 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

Hold the wadcutter to 25 yards, max. Domes are the best pellet at all ranges.

B.B.

 
At February 24, 2007 4:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have this gun and I had to take it apart to get a BB out that was stuck and now I can't figure out how to put it back together. Can someone help please? rachel2007@tds.net

 
At February 25, 2007 9:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just got an AirMaster 77 yesterday, my first air gun. It's realy awsome because of its good aiming abilities. Only thing is the scope is a little hard to adjust, I'll probably figure it out later though.

 
At February 26, 2007 6:41 AM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

There is an excellent series of scope sighting articles on this websote.

Read this one first:

http://pyramydair.com/site/articles/scopes-part3/

B.B.

 
At February 26, 2007 3:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i got an remington airmaster77, and im not quite sure how to work it. the instruction manual is gone, and i need help. Can anyone help me??

 
At February 26, 2007 3:33 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

The owner's manual is on this website.

Click here:

http://www.pyramydair.com/site/manuals/Remington-AirMaster-77.pdf

B.B.

 
At February 28, 2007 7:00 PM, Blogger legol38 said...

This is a cool gun!

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At March 01, 2007 5:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've found that at 55 feet using bb's for ammo the gun is not that accurate. I just purchased and put the scope on and have not had the chance to adjust height and windage. I've used the same amount of pumps each time but get alot of inconsistancy. I too bought for pests but judging by the way the gun performs so far I will be better off using my sling shot. I don't think it's the shooter either.

 
At March 01, 2007 5:26 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Try it with pellets before you give up.

BBs are several thousandths too small for the bore and cannot be accurate.

B.B.

 
At March 28, 2007 9:08 AM, Anonymous Hans Thiele said...

I took my airmaster apart to clean it and am having trouble reassembling it. Are there instructions or schematics that would help and where could I get them?.

Thanks,

H J T

 
At March 28, 2007 9:16 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

HJT,

Try contacting Crosman at

www.crosman.com

They make the gun.

B.B.

 
At April 06, 2007 3:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My wife has a co-worker whose mother found a BB gun in her back yard and wanted to get rid of it. I volunteered and found that its a Remington AM77 with a missing rear sight and the BB Follower Stem is also gone. Other than the barrel being somewhat weathered, the rifle appear to be in good condition. Where can I find these missing parts and does the Follower Stem have a spring that goes with it?

 
At April 06, 2007 4:11 PM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

Contact Crosman for your AirMaster parts. Theyt make the gun and have the parts.

B.B.

 
At April 26, 2007 3:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello B.B.


Im thinking about buying the ram 77
at walmart for $70 and i have some questions

1.Is the power sufficient enough to take and crows squirrels at 30 yards and less.

2. How do i maintain this rifle.

3. How is the break in on this rifle.


4.What pellets do you recommend for hunting.

5. How would the rifle last.




thank you


jse

 
At April 26, 2007 4:55 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

jse,

q. Yes, provided you can hit a quarter at that distance.

2. Oil the pump head with Pellgunoil. Actually I believe Crosman put a felt wiper ring on this model, so oil that.

3. No break-in. Works the same from the first shot to the last.

4. I would try Crosman Premier Hollowpoints and RWS Super H-Points.

5. The AirMaster 77 is constructed of a lot of synthetics, so you cannot horse it. Treat it gently and it should last for 10 years of good use. Maybe give you 10,000 trouble-free shots if you heep the pump head oiled.

B.B.

 
At April 26, 2007 5:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you very much you help me with my desision .


I will be getting a ram 77

 
At May 05, 2007 8:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello B.B.


I need to know if there are any differences between the remington air master 77 and the crosman 2100b because the 2100b is alot cheaper than the remington and i dont need a scope nor do i need pellets or bbs so which should i buy

 
At May 05, 2007 8:07 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

You answered your own question.

Enjoy!

B.B.

 
At May 06, 2007 4:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

B.B. what would you recommend more for squirrels benjamin 397 or the remington am77

 
At May 06, 2007 4:51 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

The Benjamin.

B.B.