Gamo CF-X
by B.B. Pelletier
I'm going to review an airgun I've never seen, held or tested. The only reason I'm able to do this is because it's a Gamo CF-X, which resembles a BSA Superstar in many ways. I will really be talking about the Superstar and relating it to the Gamo, and there are several Gamo CF-X owners who have promised to assist me by posting lengthy and detailed comments to this post. Together, we should be able to get the gun reviewed for you.
Not that big a stretch
Oh, I forgot to mention, Gamo owns BSA and borrows their technology from time to time. The Gamo Stutzen, for instance, is almost a direct copy of the BSA Stutzen - but for $100 less. BSA optics are distributed worldwide by Gamo, and the two companies cooperate on a good many things. That's why this post isn't as much of a stretch as it seemed at first.
Look and feel
The CF-X is big, but not heavy. The stock is synthetic on the basic rifle, which means it's an all-weather gun. It has an underlever that extends out under the front sight, and that adds to the large look. The stock is a dark charcoal gray, and the Gamo bluing, which is always above average, goes very well with the stock. Fiber optic sights front and rear make this a sporting rifle, though most owners will probably mount a scope.
Cocking is light and smooth
Here, I'm relying on my BSA experience. I found the Superstar cocked very easily for the power, and reading the Gamo specs indicates that this rifle does, too. If they copied BSA's linkage faithfully, they got a lever geometry with a lot of mechanical advantage. You might think it always happens, but my experiences with the BSA Stutzen underlever tell me it doesn't!
Shooting SHOULD be smooth
The BSA is VERY smooth, and Gamo also knows how to make a smooth shooter. I suspect that it's not quite as refined as the Superstar - which is glass-smooth out of the box - but it could be. JB, a reader who has owned a CF-X for a year, says his gun vibrated a bit at first but has quieted down over 1,000 shots - exactly what I would expect.
Trigger leaves something to be desired
Triggers are the Achilles heel of all Gamo spring rifles. They have designed one unit, and they make it fit in all their guns. That would be okay if it was a good one, but a Gamo trigger starts out heavy, stiff and VERY creepy. However - it does break-in! I've fired Gamo rifles with over 6,000 shots on them, and the triggers were nearly as good as British or German triggers. JB says his trigger has smoothed out in 1,000 rounds. The thing to remember is this - the trigger does improve with lots of use.
Power
Thanks to JB, I can report velocity figures. He tells us that his rifle shoots 10.5-grain Crosman Premiers at 742 f.p.s., 10.5-grain Beeman Kodiaks (he listed the weight) at 782 f.p.s., 7.9-grain Crosman Premiers at 887 f.p.s. and 7.3-grain Daisy Max Precision Pointed pellets at 938 f.p.s. That is in the ballpark I would have predicted. That means you can get 7-grain RWS Hobbys up to 965 f.p.s. and 5.7-grain Skenco Hyper Velocity lead-free pellets will probably surpass 1,000 f.p.s. I expect some of you new CF-X owners to report how close these numbers are to what you're getting.
Accuracy
JB reports groups at 10 meters ranging from 3/8" to 1/2". I would assume that means center-to-center. He says his rifle likes both weights of Premiers and that the 10.5-grain Premier is possibly the single best pellet.
The rotary breech
The rotary breech is a cylindrical block that rotates to the left to open the breech of the barrel. A smooth steel ramp in the block guides pellets into the bore, though it may take some getting used to. If you just allow the pellet to slide down the ramp on its own, it can flip over on its nose and try to enter the breech tail-first. The trick is to push it down the ramp with a finger on top, so it can't turn around. JB warns us to cock the gun before rotating the breech or you will tear some seals.
New CF-X owners - report!
We want to hear velocities, accuracy, difficulties encountered and your general impressions of the gun. Please make all comments to this posting, so they will be together.
At $200 for the basic gun, the CF-X is a bargain. Don't expect it to outperform the Shadow 1000, but expect it to be heavier, more stable and eventually smoother. Buy the CF-X Royal, which looks VERY much like a BSA Superstar by the way, if you want a wood stock and the CF-X Combo if you want it with fries and a Coke.
posted by B.B. Pelletier @ 4:30 AM
151 comments
151 Comments:
I have an off topic question. Hope that's okay. Some websites (mostly American) list the .22 cal Webley Hurricane as shooting at 400 fps and the .22 Tempest as shooting at 350 fps.
Many Canadian and European sites list their .22 Hurricane as somewhat weaker. D&L Airgun in Canada lists the .22 Hurricane at shooting 330 fps. They don't carry a .22 Tempest in order for me to compare the numbers.
I'm jusr currious if America is guilty of fudging those numbers a bit or are the Canadians playing it safe.
Comment about the GAMO cfx :
I own this rifle in .22. I scoped it with a gamo scope 4-12X 40. This combo looks great but... is HEAVY in my opinion... The rifle is BULKY. It's oversized. With a scope mounted on it, good luck if you want to shoot it off-hands (without resting it): it's too heavy ! There is a nice stop-pin Gamo offers you when you buy the rifle. Many thanks Gamo, but the stop pin moves when you shoot because there is a considerable "jump", (not really a recoil) when you fire it...A solution ? Mount à one-piece mount... and add some more weight to your baby... And this comes for all the hunters and and the old poachers (just kidding) :when you load the rifle you have to : put the underlever down and up. To open the breech. To put a pellet into the chamber (which is not obvious believe me : all pellets wont fit into the chamber) .Close the breech... Unless your prey wants to commit suicide, it has widely the time to go to the pub before going home... and before you fire. And as a conclusion THIS IS A WONDERFUL RIFLE, very powerful, AMAZINGLY ACCURATE up to 45 yards. With a JSB EXACT you won't miss anithing witin that range and well over (I tested it).And in the .22 POWERFUL.The price is laughable... It's probably the best bargain you could do if you are tight in budget and if you can't buy more than one rifle.
ERIC from BELGIUM
Jim,
The power limit for air PISTOLS in the United Kingdom is 6 foot-pounds. In Canada, there is a limit of 500 f.p.s. for all airguns (I believe - maybe some Canadian readers can help me out with that?).
It may be that the Webley guns selling in these countries are somehow power-limited (or velocity-limited, in the case of Canada), to keep from violating their laws. Because a barrel swap is so easy, a .22 can become a .177, and 500 f.p.s. might be exceeded, if the gun is alrerady close enough. But if Webley put a de-stroked piston in the gun, there would be no easy way to boost power beyond the legal limit.
I am guessing on this explanation; I really don't know. What I do know is that my Beeman version of the Hurricane shoots in the high 400s with light pellets in .177.
I hope that helps,
B.B.
ERIC from BELGIUM,
Another great report. And this one in .22, no less.
I guess the general consensus is that the CF-X is heavy!
B.B.
Despite the perception(?) of heaviness, when cocked, the CFX feels very well balanced. Atleast for me.
One thing I forgot to mention in my earlier review was that you can fire the gun if the breech is accidentally left open! I did this once, yeah, I'm an idiot for getting distracted. :/
The pellet only got shaken loose from the breech, and there was a sharp hiss accompanied by a small cloud of what I guess was oil smoke. I really hope I didn't burn out a seal, but it doesn't seem to have damaged the gun. The POI for my most accurate pellets hasn't changed perceptably. I don't have a chrony for velocity testing.
Also, loading through the rotary breech was a bit fiddly at first, but I've learned a smooth loading motion in a day, which should only get faster with practice.
My next order from pyramid is going to contain some heavier pellets, now that I see some decent energy levels with the Kodiaks.
I really wish pyramid would offer something like Straight Shooters Ultimate Pellet Sampler. It'd make pellet selection so very much easier and cheaper!
Hello,
Sorry for the offtopic. I asked information about the RWS 48 some time ago, but decided that i would have way more fun with a cheaper lower powered gun with better optics. So I decided to buy a Weihrauch 97K Blue laminat and leapers accushot 16x56 fixed zoom scope.
So i got the rifle and scope along with to tins of jsb exacts this morning(earlier then expected :D). I unwrapped it and *WOOOOW*ed OMG that scope is BIG with de 30MM body. I mounted it on the rifle (which looked stunning too) and picked it up. This combo was quite heavy but still managable.
Shot it and it shot like a dream, zeroed it, kinda, but didnt have much time to shoot because of (making claymovies) obligations, accuracy was good i think. I was also able to hold the rifle quite stable because of the perfect balance (little top heavy though :-P). I love it and i cant stop looking at it. Is it allowed to post pictures here to illustrate how monsterously big the scope is?
Tod,
Hold on the pix until I ask Pyramyd Air.
What are claymovies?
B.B.
Ok, www.claymovies.be amateur claymovies, made by my friend and me, but our hosting seems to be down. Ill hold.
BB,
I was really looking forward to reading you impression of the CF-X first hand.
You can use mine if can't come up with one.
I once drove '72 Chevy Malibu, do you think I would like the Camaro?
just funnin'.. should be interesting to see the comments of other CF-X owners.
dsw
Tod,
I just got the go-ahead from Pyramyd Air. They don't want tons of pic, but a few are fine.
B.B.
dsw,
Pyramyd Air would send me one to test if I asked. But I thought this was just a passing thing. If it isn't, I will get one and really test it.
B.B.
B.B.
Please contact me. I have an item you may be interested in.
Thanks,
Rob Carter
Rctr3@aol.com
BB
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00271ha.jpg
BIG scope, shot it for about an hour today and it realy starts to weigh a lot. To give you an idea of the weight of this combo, my 15 year old brother in law could barely hold it up in shooting position, let alone cocking or even decently aiming it.
http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00305gg.jpg
The beautiful laminate stock up close, flip up caps open, it doesnt look yellow like in advertisement pictures.
I realy like my rifle :-D.
Tod
Tod,
I'm glad you like your rifle, but your image links didn't come through. I believe they lack a link to the host server.
B.B.
BB
Yeah, i know, you can just copy the url to you adres bar.
Tod
BB,
No big deal. Actually smart of you this way, should create good feedback.
dsw
Charlie Da Tuna sells a trigger blade dropin for the CFX that will improve the trigger instantly. Highly recommended by a CFX owner (not me).
The gun is very accurate (or can be) -- it did very well in Field Target shooting at DIFTA this past year.
Best,
Joe
URL for the trigger mod: http://charliedatuna.com/MK_1_GTX_trigger.htm
For those who don't know, you can insert links like this:
[a href="http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00271ha.jpg"]Picture 1[/a]
Just replace the [] characters with <> characters. (I had to type it that way, otherwise you wouldn't be able to see the html code.)
The example above would yeild this: Picture 1
The url to the page/object you want to link to needs to go between the double quotes (href="like this").
B.B.
On another off but related topic. my local air gun dealer says he refuses to carry Gamo products because of extremely bad customer service. i wanted your opinion and that of the rest of you, if you have any experience.
i was considering buying the Gamo Compact as an entry level competition pistol.
as always, thanks!
Hello B.B.
Here's a follow-up to my other CF-X post. DSW got me interested in the 40fps difference between Crosman 10.5gr premiers and Beeman Kodiaks. I shot a couple more strings thru the chrono to verify. The results are similar... premiers 744fps, kodiaks 777fps. The Kodiaks are more consistent too, the extreme spread of velocities is half that of the premiers (26 vs 12.5). I also noticed that the Kodiaks fit a little tighter in the barrel. They require a little push to flush them up. I checked a dozen or so of each and found the Kodiaks average 0.006" larger at the skirt (0.178 vs 0.184). This probably means they seal tighter and give more consistent velocities. Accuracy doesn't seem to be affected. The weight I listed is an actual average of 3 samples of 10 random pellets. They average 10.45gr.
I'm curious about the .22 version mentioned in one of the comments. I can't seem to find a .22 version listed anywhere. Is it a discontinued model, or one only available in the UK? I like mine enough to buy another in .22!!
It seems that many shooters key in on the velocity numbers and forget about accuracy and consistency. 1000 fps is a marketing tool, it's really not a useful speed for pellets. Somewhere between 750 and 850 is probably the optimal speed for accuracy. I would rather hit it a little slower than miss it fast!
I originally wanted to buy the RWS 48/52, or TX200, but didn't want to spend a lot on my first spring gun. I chose the CF-x because of the underlever, synthetic stock and Combo price. This gun is a great shooter for the price. I've learned a lot about shooting spring guns and really enjoy it.
JB
jb said... "I'm curious about the .22 version mentioned in one of the comments. I can't seem to find a .22 version listed anywhere. Is it a discontinued model, or one only available in the UK? I like mine enough to buy another in .22!!"
The .22 caliber version seems to be only sold in europe.
jb said... "I originally wanted to buy the RWS 48/52, or TX200, but didn't want to spend a lot on my first spring gun. I chose the CF-x because of the underlever, synthetic stock and Combo price. This gun is a great shooter for the price. I've learned a lot about shooting spring guns and really enjoy it."
Those are the exact same reasons I chose the CFX myself.
If my interest in airguns turns out to be more than just a passing fancy (I'm one of the few nuts that bought the centerfire conversion kit for the old remington 5mm rimfire magnum...), I'll likely splurge on either a higher end springer (the RWS 350 Magnum looks sweet), or maybe even a PCP (the Airforce Condor is positively droolworthy).
cold shooter,
Any manufacturer or distributor can have a bad transaction or two. The larger they are, the more chances they have to make mistakes.
I have not heard about poor customer service from Gamo.
B.B.
craigjwjr,
One reason some distributors no longer sell the .22 caliber version of airguns in the U.S. is because of Wal-Mart. Here is how it goes:
Some states like Michigan have passed laws declaring airguns in calibers greater than .18 to be firearms. I'm not certain of the exact wording of the law(s) but that is the gist of it.
Despite the fact that these laws are in violation of U.S, law (title 5100, I believe) that prohibits any federal, state or local municipality from decalring an airgun to be a firearm, the law(s) stand because ithey are never challenged.
Wal-Mart has such tremendous purchasing influence on the retail world that they set many of the buying rules. For example, they demand that their top 5,000 vendors have offices within 40 miles of Bentonville AR. That's caused a HUGE development boom in that area, as well as the creation of a new airport - mostly to handle Wal-Mart traffic!
Wal-Mart declines to stock .22 air rifles because these airgun laws are always in flux - usually at the local level - and they can't keep up with them. Pyramyd Air could tell you how difficult it is to keep up with the ever-changing airgun and airsoft laws in this country. So not stocking the guns is the simple way to stay legal.
Companies like Gamo, who make millions from Wal-Mart, base their entire sales strategy on what Wal-Mart carries. Hence, no .22s. for the certain models they will be mass-distributing. Ever wonder why you can't find a Benjamin 392 at Wal-Mart, but the 397 is there? That's why. Now the CF-X is not among the guns Wal-Mart stocks, but the fact is, Gamo will move slowly on the importation of any .22 airgun. A gun like the 1250 Hurricane is very clearly outside the Wal-Mart sphere of influence, so it is imported.
What I have said is not 100 percent correct. I hear about anomalies from time to time. But in general, if it weren't for airgun dealers, the airgun situation in the United States would be bleak.
B.B.
Craigjwjr,
Thanks for the info regarding links!
dsw
BB, and all
I purchased a CF-X for all the abouve mentioned reasons also. I would have bought .22 CF-X if I knew it was available.
Wal-Mart infuence... amazing!
dsw
I recently purchased a Gamo CFX in .177 here in Australia. Accuracy is good.It does appear to like Gamo pellets ( Magnum,round nose). Accuracy is some 1" to 1.5" at 40yards. Ive tried RWS field line pointed & hollow points in addition to H&N Silver points but they "aerosol" with groups better than 5 to 5.5" at 40 yards. Trigger is fair at best. Do they wear in?
I'm seeking advise about scope creep. I have a Simmons Airpower 4X32 scope with Hilver mounts. I've used the Gamo scope arrestor block in addition to using Loctite medium on all mount & ring screws yet I still have scope creep.
8462johnb,
You need to read all the past posts on this blog. I've talked about Gamo triggers at length and they DO wear in! It can take several thousand shots.
Also, your scope shift can be caused by so many other things than the mounts. Are you run all the way out on either windage or elevation? That does it every time. Do you shoot with a scope level? That's a good way to tighten groups.
There are many past posts on scopes and sighting-in on the blog. Use the Google search window on the currect post page. And there is an index (7 months) on September 30.
Also, there are a number of scope articles on this site. Check them out and I bet you find some things that will help.
B.B.
No creep after a year of shooting with B-square airsport rings. They have a built in stop pin in one base. It registers into the hole in the receiver rail, no need for an additional scope stop. No loctite on my setup.
JB
BB,
The accuracy on the CF-X is great.It is a bit heavy.The cocking effort is very light and it has great power.Overall is a great air rifle and looks great too.
Now,I would like to know if you can mount a leapers 3-12x44 in the CF-X and still be able to load the ammo in the breech.
BB,
One more thing,
My friend bought a GAMO VARMINT HUNTER but wants a leapers 3-12x44 for better accuracy.He whants to know if you can still mount the laser and flashlight on the new scope.I ask because I thought that the scope would be too big and block the laser and flashlight.
Thanks BB,and feel free to ask about the CF-X couse ill aswer.
CF-X guy
BB,
One more thing,My CF-X did outperform my friends varmint hunter wich is a shadow 1000 in terms of accuracy.
CF-X guy
CF-X guy,
Although there are five different Leapers 3 to 12 x 44 models, they all can be fitted to the CF-X. All it takes is high rings.
As for your buddy also wanting to mount a flashlight and laser ahead of the scope, one probably wouldn't be too bad, but both is a bit much. You will not be able to see the laser in the scope, but it will block some light, so be warned.
B.B.
CF-X guy,
I have a Leapers 3-12x44 full size mil-dot SWAT scope (model # LESCP3-3125AOMD) on my CF-X. It is mounted with a single piece adjustable low mount. (I think low, maybe medium).There's only 1/2" clearence at breech area.
The front of the scope ends right at the begining of the slide breech. I had to remove the rear sight to open lense covers.
It was akward loading. It took about 40 to 50 shots to get used to loading pellets, but now it's not a problem.
I would probably go with one of the mini scopes Leapers has to offer if I was to do it again, they seem to have all the features whithout the extra length. However, this thing looks really cool. I like to look at people's face as I open the case. My next scope will probably be model# LESCP3-3124MAOMD. And my next gun will probably be the .22cal CF-X!
I am consistantly getting 1 1/4" ctc groups at 50 yds. And that's resting over the bar-b-que in the back yard! The CF-X is a great gun! The scope is awsome!
dsw
dsw,
Thanks for the info.Can you tell me if you can put the scope as far back as possible and be able to leve the open sights?
CF-X guy
HI
BB, I JUZ WANNA SAY THAT I LOVE UR BLOGS VERY MUCH. SURE DOES OPEN A LOT OF NEW KNOWLEDGE 4 ME.
I AM FROM INDONESIA, HERE, THE TYPE OF AIRGUNS THAT IS POPULAR IS THE PUMP UP PNEUMATIC.
MOST OF THE AIRGUNS USE HERE IS CHEAP IMITATION OF BENJAMIN 297, CANON, SHARP IN .177, BECAUSE IS ILLEGAL TO OWN AN AIRGUN WITH LARGER CALIBRE.
WHAT I WANNA ASK U IS HOW TO LUBE A PUMP PNEUMATIC, WHAT LUBE SHOULD U USE. HERE PEOPLE USUALLY USE SINGER SEWING MACHINE OIL. IS IT OK?
Yes. Singer Sewing Machine oil is a particularly well-refined light machine oil that will do no harm to multi-pump pneumatics. Of course you know to oil the pump head, which is seen through the slot in the bottom of the pump tube when the pump handle is all the way out.
B.B.
thanks for the quick reply BB.
one more thing, i am considering to buy an underlever springer.
i believe it's an imitation of Diana airguns (we dont have the original for sale here). what i want to know is, can i use singer oil to oil it's chamber, or what commercial motor oil that can be use, cause there's no way i could get pellgun oil or something like that here in indonesia.
Have anybody tried to fill the hole on the skirt of a pellet with soldering tin to make it heavy?
Indonesia,
You can use a good grade of hydraulic oil or automatic transmission fluid to replace Pellgunoil.
What you need for the chamber is a very high flash point, so any oil that is synthetic should be good. I wouldn't use Singer oil for this.
B.B.
Soldering tin,
That will unbalance the pellet. It won't fly true. Also it would destroy the diabolo drag from the hollow skirt and your accuracy would suffer twice. Buying heavier diabolo pellets is the answer.
You are heading towards a bullet with your filled pellet. Bullets are best shot by firearms. That may be where you want to experiment.
B.B.
BB,
I originally wrote in re scope creep experienced with a Gamo CFX. Thanks for your response and suggestions. I visited the past posts and found their content helpful.
I've had the CFX for about a month now and have put some 1700 rounds through it. I can report the following.
Trigger: getting smoother all the time with the take up / release more predictable.
Cocking: effortless and smooth.
Recoil: Diminishing in so far as the associated discharge "Twang" ( not the best description) is less pronounced.
Accuracy: Am using RWS (field lines / magnum 9 grains) and am achieving consistent 1" C>C groups at 40 yards/ bench rest. Given the pests we have here I now have the confidence of placing shots in vital zones.
Many thanks for your advice and that of others.
8462johnb
8462johnb,
Thank you for that report. That's exactly what other shooters need to hear - the success of an owner who has spent some time with his gun.
This CF-X seems to be a great air rifle!
B.B.
BB.
THIS IS AN OFF TOPIC QUESTION, BUT I NEED 2 KNOW.
U SEE, I HAVE A PUMP UP PNEUMATIC, A BENJAMIN 297 IMITATION, THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS GUN IS IF I PUMP IT ABOVE 4 TIMES, COCKED THE GUN, INSERT A PELLET AND PULL THE TRIGGER, I GET A FAIRLY GOOD SHOT, AND WITHOUT REPUMPING THE GUN, IF I RECOCK AND INSERT A PELLET AGAIN, I CAN STILL MAKE ONE MORE SHOT. WHY IS THAT? HAVE ANYBODY EXPERIENCE THE SAME THING?
O YEAH, BTW, I WAS CONSIDERING TO GET MYSELF A NEW ORIGINAL BENJAMIN PUMP UP AIR RIFLE. I HEARD THAT U MUSN'T OIL THE NEW GUN. IS IT TRUE? WHY IS THAT? AND DOESNTIT SHORTEN THE LIFE OF THE GUN IF I DONT OIL IT?
MANY THANKS
HAQUE
haque,
Your pneumatic sounds like either a Chinese or Indonesian gun. When you can fire a pump gun twice with one pumping, it usually means the valve is closing too soon. Either that or it's being over-pumped, which four pump strokes would not normally do.
Now there are some multi-shot pump guns. Benjamin made three or four that I know of. But they would not shoot multiple shots with just four pump strokes.
Have you modified your gun in any way? A lighter hammer spring or a lighter hammer would cause what you are describing.
If your gun is Chinese, then I would suspect the valve seat. The Chinese guns usually use valve seat material with a durometer rating too low for the job. The soft material gets mashed and deformed in use and could probably cause the problem you describe. As I recall, the Indonesian Cannon rifle had similar problems.
As far as oiling goes, it depends on what kind of oil you use. And because your guns are not Benjamins, I have no idea what kind of oil they need. Multi-pumps need to be oiled, but not too much and not with the wrong oil that can ruin the seals. Always follow the owner's manual on oiling any gun.
BB,
The gun that i mention was brand new, and i havent do any modification yet, but i do suspect it's hammer spring is too weak.
btw, i was asking about oiling the new benjamin sheridan 397 (original one, not indonesian),
because i read in an article that u cannot oil the pump, here is an piece of the article :
"There is a cautionary note for Benjamin-Sheridan owners. My gun has the words: "AIR HOLE DO NOT OIL" stamped under the pump cylinder. I thought that odd, since one normally oils pump pistons. An air gunsmith told me that Benjamin-Sheridans now have an air valve that can suffer hydraulic lock if oil gets into them. Ouch. The gun will lock up. The only way to unlock it is to have an air gunsmith disassemble the gun and free the valve. Apparently the older style valves did not do this".
O yeah, yes my airgun is indonesian made. btw, do pyramid carries japanese made Sharp Ace? i heard that they are very good, but i cant get it anywhere. can you help?
haque
haque,
The Japanese haven't made the Sharp airguns in 20 years. They have been contracting them to Indonesia, according to my sources. The quality dropped, of course.
What you were told about hydraulic lockup of the valve is news to me. Yes there is a "No Oil" hole. It's been there for almost 40 years. Too many customers were over-oiling the gun through the air intake hole (that one). But Benjamins need oil on their pump heads like everyone else.
B.B.
bb,
I MAYBE YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE SHARP AIRGUN, WE DO HAVE SHARP INNOVA AIRGUN HERE IN INDONESIA.
YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS IN A SPORTING SHOP, I SAW THEY SOLD ROUND LEAD BALLS, CAN I USE THEM IN MY BENJAMIN PELLET GUN? WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE DO THE ROUND LEAD BALLS GOT COMPARED TO PELLETS?
THANKS ALOT
HAQUE
Haque,
Yes you can use round lead balls in your Benjamin. The advantage is deeper penetration. Read about them on the Pyramid Air website in the article Pellets vs Round Balls.
B.B.
I just received my GAMO CFX earlier this week and have not had a lot of time to shoot yet. all the above praise does seem to be true, but I would like to know if anybody knows if there is an aftermarket peep sight that could mount to the scope rail on the back. the factory rear sight is decent but elevation changes can tweak the windage, and with the fixed barrel I would prefer to have the rear sight at the back of the rifle. Also the muzzle and therefore the front sight can move slightly on the barrel. Any Suggestions?
S.G. Colorado
S.G.
There are two difficulties to mounting a peep sight on the CF-X. The first is getting it back far enough for your eye. The second is you will have to then elevate the front sight because all peep sights will be higher than your current sight line.
Gamo makes a target peep, but I don't think it will work on the CF-X
B.B.
BB,
I think I now can give a review about my CF-X:
I have had it for a month now and I have shot over 1000 times.
In terms of accuracy it is very good.I get 1/2 with 5 shots center to center at 10 meters.I shot a rat at 80feet and got a head shot kill.
It is quite heavy.But youll get used to it.
The CF-X is very powerfull.My friend has a shadow 1000 and the cf-x outperforms it in accuracy and power.
It is very light to cock{I mean very light so dont get scared when you see the 38 lbs cocking effort}The trigger is good and getting better.Tje open sights are great.I have a bsa 4x32 scope and ordered a leapers scope 3-9x44 for it.The CF-X is great.The only commplaint I have is the weigh and thet if you get distracted youll leave the breech open and that gets on my nerves.I dont think it hurts the gun though cause the performance of mine is still great after having over 20 of this accidents.
Well there I go.The CF-X is a great buy and I love it!!!!!!!!!!
CF-X guy
CF-X guy,
You see how it works? In December you had all those questions and now you've answered most of them.
I have to tell you, the CF-X is a better rifle than I gave credit for. I have one now that I'll be testing and reporting on.
But you hit the important points. The only place I differ with you is the weight. Compared to an HW 77, a Beeman R1 or a Webley Patriot, or even a TX 200, this is a very light rifle. I guess it depends on what you were expecting.
B.B.
You are right BB.I have never had an air rifle before.Though comparing it with my friends varmint hunter it is heavier than the hunter but may be because the hunter is very light.I you have a question on the cf-x ill try to test it and tell you.
CF-X guy
BB
I want to know if I can mount the 3-9x40 scope {leapers) in the cf-x with the low mounts.And what size.And does pyramid air carry them.
CF-X guy
CF-X guy,
I'd use at least a medium-high ring with a 40mm tube. And even that might not be tall enough. Better ask Pyramyd before you place your order.
B.B.
BB,
Im calling pyramidair and the number on the site does not work.Can you give me all of their phone numbers or can you ask them about the rings.I want the scope as low as possible.I would appreciate it BB.Thanks
CF-X guy
CF-X guy,
It's 888-262-4867. I habe used it three times today.
B.B.
Ok BB.Thanks.I was calling to the 1800 262 4867.Sorry.
CF-X guy.
BB,
Can I buy a rekord trigger seperately and put it in the CF-X?
If so where do you get them?
CF-X guy
BB,
My cf-x's trigger is kind of brown.I took the rust out but the paint went away.What should I do?
CF-X guy
Hi ALL,can someone tell me if the gamo cfx is available in australia in .22 caliber with the synthetic black stock?if so what speed in fps would it do?
cheers.
Down Under,
I hope some of our Australian readers can help you with a source. The only dealer I know in Australia is Beeman's of Australia, owned by Lewis Reinhold.
As far as the velocity you can expect in .22, I would estimate 750-775 f.p.s. with 14.3-grain Crosman Premiers. That's obtained by adding some energy to the .177 calculation (from the energy calculator in the Pyramyd Air website) and converting it back to velocity with a heavier pellet. I'm estimating 19 foot-pounds in .22.
B.B.
thanks B.B,I went into a gun dealer the other day and he had the cfx gamo in .177.he said he sold hundreds.very popular.i asked about the .22 cal he said he can get one in.he said its a gamo cfx .22.i been trying to find info on this gun in australia through the internet but so far no luck.prob spent 10 hours searching so far.thats why i asked if they exist in aussie land cause i cant find anyone stocking it.i wonering if he met a diff model other than a cfx??will keep trying though..
regards,nm.
Highland Sports is the distributor of Gamo products in Australia. Search on the net will provide their contact details but sufficed to say you can get a CFX in .22 The rrp is AU $330. I live in Adelaide and my local gun dealer Fisher firearms ( 08 )8362 8977 have 3 in stock at time of writing.
thanks John.you have been very helpful.looks like my question has been answered..will post some info when i receive the gamo cfx .22 air rifle which should take place in around 3 weeks time.im in north queensland australia and price is also $330 here..thanks again.happy plinking...nm
johnb,
Thanks for providing the info.
B.B.
one more question.i read on the internet that the gamo cfx air rifles come with a muzzel brake and that it adds as a handle to cock the under lever..can someone tell me more on this?
thanks.nm
nm,
I personaly own the gamo cf-x.All I can tell you is that the cf-x,s muzzle lets the under leveler attach to it.On the break barrels like the varmint stalker{gamo} the muzzle acts as a cocking handle.Hope I answered your question.If you have another question please ask.
CF-X guy
thanks for the info.yes,now i see what the muzzle brake is.its that i was reading on the internet somewhere and they made it sound like the rifle had a muzzel brake to slow power.but now i see what they meant...thanks very much.nm
nm,
No problem.I hope you enjoy your cf-x.If I knew it existed in .22 cal I would have bought it.Still its a great gun and very powerfull.If you have questions please feel free to ask.Once again, congratulations on your purchase.
CF-X guy
Don't know which of these brand names are used outside the UK, but....
When it comes to pellets for the CFX (.22), I have found so far that H&N Field Target go best, and Webley Lazapell are also good, but it does not seem as happy with the Daystate 5.51mm equivalent of the H&Ns as they seem a bit loose-fitting.
My Gamo Hunter 440 (.22) shows much the same preference.
Woooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
I LOVE THE CF-X!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just love it.
CF-X guy
I see from Haque's post that the
Sharp Innova is still available in Indonesia. I purchased one there in 1996 and would like to have another one. Does anyone know if this rifle is available anywhere in the U.S.?
well,still no cfx .22.been ordered almost 3 weeks ago now..funny that.the gun dealer said when i ordered the air rifle that it would only take 3 days to get here..mmmmmmmmmm.i think next time i will go to another dealer..
anyway,i went into a diff dealer and bought rws super hollow points,winchester round nose,marksman round nose,wasp round nose,pro pell semi points,and rws super point pellets that i would like to test when this gun arrives..will be doing tests on rabbits and timber.will keep in touch...nm
nm,
I read that the CF-X in your country came with a nicke barrel.Is that true?
If it is and you can get me the pictures send them to hernan_classic@yahoo.com
Thanks.
CF-X guy
Joe,
The Innova is not available from any dealer I know. The manufacturer was at the SHOT Show but they are moving the factory to China, which could mean another downward slip in accuracy. I'd be cautious about them.
B.B.
BB,
I just want to ask what speed can the gamo cf-x achive with a 16 grain pellet and how many foot pounds.
JB
not sure of the nicke barrel.looked up on internet but found no info on this..
with the speed using cfx gamo .22,i was told should shoot a 14.5 grain pellet at approx 720 to 750 feed per second.16 grains would prob be approx 700 feet per second..nm
joe,
howdy.
the Sharp Innova is still available in Indonesia.
i am surprised to heard that u purchased one here in indonesia.
tell me, how long did u stay in indonesia, and where?
i am in the borneo island.
about what BB said, i think the quality of Sharp Innova in 1996
and now is practically the same, it's made in indonesia. i know
because i recently buy a Sharp Niko. quite cheap too, cost me less than 40 bucks.
Sharp Niko is much like Sharp Innova, except it uses wood as gunstock,
and full metal receiver, not plastic like on innova.
comes with a long barrel (about 5 inches longer than innova) and have
a detachable silencer.
i love this gun.
may be u should get one too. u'll love it.
regards
Haque
Has anyone here in the US been able to get the CFX in .22? I would prefer the Royal and would be willing to pay very good money. Also, I know that they are available in every (airgun legal) country in the world except U.S. & Canada. What would be the issues, if any, of driving into Mexico, buying one and bringing it back into country?
BB,
What is the best pellet for your cf-x?
CF-X guy
well its now 4 weeks the cfx .22 was ordered and still no gun.as i said before the store owner said to me it would only take 3 days to get here..longest 3 days i ever came across.i will defanetly never ever buy anything from this gun dealer again..so we wait....
am hoping (still)to place some info here on diff pellet results when this gun arrives..
nm
nm,
Man,I hope you get your gun!!!.
I know that every day you look at the picture of the cf-x in the computer and ask your self when it will arrive?Dont worry.A tip is to not think about it and when it arrives you will say THAT WAS FAST.See ya!!!
CF-X guy
had to laugh at your last post cf-x guy..yes,i must not think about it and dont look at the cfx pictures on the internet..but its so hard...(joking)
anyway,i will keep in touch.cheers.nm.
nm,
I know that the more you wait the more you will love it when it gets there.By the way,do you have a link to where they sell the .22 cal cf-x?
CF-X guy
the gun dealer im buying the cfx from doesnt have a web sight.i believe the importer is some company in sydney.thats all i know..what i do is type gamo cf-x .22 and lots of info comes up.
have you tried rws hobby or rws super point pellets?was wondering how good are they?..
nm
nm,
Sorry,I have not.
CF-X guy
BB,
Why do the codiacs go faster than the exacts if the weigh the same?
Is it because of the aerodynamics?
CF-X guy
CF-X guy,
I don't understand what you are asking. Where in this report do I list the velocity of JSB Exacts?
B.B.
BB,
Im sorry,I meant the premiers from crosman.JB says that the kodiaks go 40fps faster than the premiers.Why is that.?
CF-X guy
CF-X guy,
Probably because the Kodiaks are pure lead and because the Premiers are a little larger in diameter, as well as being harder.
B.B.
BB,
I just ordered{ 2 minutes ago to be exact} A leapers 3-12x44 AO MIL DOT 30mm iluminated reticle,the medium mounts wich I think theyll work couse they say that the max is 45mm objetive and the scope is 44mm,a pack of beeman kodiak match pellets{first time I use something more than the copperheads or daysies}Wich I think,reading this blog every day,are one of the best.And I ordered the same scope and mounts for my friend.I cant wait to put it on.Ill tell you about it when I get it.Hope I get it soon!!!!!!!!!!!!:>}
CF-X guy
nm,
I have a friend that tried the hobby pellets.They go fast but arnt so accurate in the cf-x in .177cal.I dont know how they will work on the .22cal cf-x
CF-X guy
CF-X guy,
I'd tell you to keep us posted, but somehow I think you know that.
Good luck with your new equipment and pellets.
B.B.
rang this dealer today and they say the cfx .22 is in.will go in tomorrow to pick it up.i still cant beleive its here.i will repeat it dealer told me "oh it will only take 3 days to get here"this 3 days is now 5 weeks..yipeeeeeeeeee i get my gun at last.yipeeeeeeee..
at the local club i was told today that they only use hobby pellets due to their ac