by B.B. Pelletier
I promised great things this week, and I’ll start today!
I’m writing this a couple of weeks before the first Benjamin Super Streaks are due in. I’m doing it to placate several readers who really want to hear about the rifle, plus I’ve had a personal interest in it since first seeing it at the 2007 SHOT Show. The rifle I am reviewing is an early gun, but it was sent to me with the blessings of Crosman, so I believe it pretty well represents the production Super Streak.
First – the name!
By using the name Streak, the company really got the internet buzzing with speculation. Of course, the names Benjamin and Streak don’t go together. Streak is forever identified with Sheridan, which a few of us old silverbacks remember as a company that was once separate from Benjamin. More importantly, Streak has been the name of a multi-pump pneumatic for more than a half-century. Early rumors predicted that Benjamin was about to bring out a powerful new multi-pump pneumatic. I laid that rumor to rest on November 5. When I did, readers found out that I had the rifle. Then, the pressure started to review it quickly. I stalled because I knew the guns would not be out in time for Christmas. The Pyramyd AIR website shows them arriving by December 19, but I’ve seen that date change in the past, so don’t hold your breath. Any new launch of a gun has great potential for delays.
Next – the gun!
The Super Streak is a conventional single-shot breakbarrel spring-piston air rifle that’s available in .177 and .22 caliber when it comes out. The advertised velocity of 1500 f.p.s. (.177) is fiction of the same sort that Gamo uses with the Hunter Extreme. Spring airguns don’t go that fast. You readers who’ve read this blog for at least the past 6 months know that. However, Crosman is targeting the much larger general shooting public who haven’t got a clue. To remain competitive with Gamo and RWS Diana, they have to stretch their numbers upward as well. One of the things I’ll do is chronograph the test rifle with several pellets of known performance so you can see the real story. But before we do that, let’s give it the once-over.
Gossip and truth
Gossip first. Yes, this rifle is positioned to challenge the Gamo Hunter Extreme and the RWS Diana 460/350 Magnum rifles. It’s big, powerful and demands the utmost in shooter awareness (of the proper spring airgun shooting technique).
Now, the truth. This is a Chinese-made airgun, but I don’t think you pneumatic genealogists are going to be able to trace its origins. That’s because I don’t think it has any. I think this is the first time we have seen this particular model. Ok, it has links to Spanish guns. The Gamo-style safety on the trigger gives that away. But the powerplant doesn’t seem familiar.
Overall
The Super Streak is a very large air rifle. As the specs on the website indicate, it is 49.75″ long, which is about as long as sporting airguns come these days. The weight is 8.5 lbs. without the scope, but the factory-mounted 4-16×40 CenterPoint scope that comes with the combo bumps that up to 10.25 lbs. The stock is a thumbhole and fully ambidextrous. Shooters with large hands will appreciate all the room they’ve been given in the pistol-grip region.
A word about the scope
The scope they have selected for you is no chum optic. It’s a top-of-the-line sidewheel parallax-adjustable glass. It has a duplex reticle with mil-dots and flip-up scope caps. Compare all that to the specs of most combo scopes, and you’ll agree that Benjamin has poured the money into this one.
PS. After this post went live, Michael in Fla. pointed out that he had a similar scope, but his was not sidewheel parallax adjustable. Well, I looked and neither is the one on the test gun! I am sorry for the confusion this mistake may have caused. The parallax adjusts on the objective bell and the left turret adjustment controls the reticle illumination.
And the rest of the gun
The stock has four areas of fine stippling – one on either side of the grip and one one either side of the forearm. It’s a fine, smooth stippling that doesn’t arrest your hands. Underneath the forearm, the name Benjamin has been cut into the wood in tall letters. I was told it was for effect when the rifle sits in a rack. It jumps out at you! The stock is finished a dark, even brown with a dull matte sheen. The Monte Carlo raised cheekpiece rolls over to equal depth on both sides of the butt.
The metal of my test rifle is finished an even matte blue, but for those who want a brighter gun, a matte nickel finish is also available. Both will have a black faux muzzlebrake/cocking aid. According to Pyramyd’s site, the nickel version is available in .177 only, but the blued version comes in .177 and .22.
There are a beautiful set of adjustable open sights on the gun, even though it comes from the factory with a really primo scope already mounted. The front sight actually accepts replacement inserts, and the rear is adjustable in both directions. I’m thinking that the folks at Benjamin would not put a set of sitghts this nice on the rifle unless they believed that a fair number of users really wanted them. Sights have a cost, of course, and it would have been just as easy to install a cheaper set on the rifle if they thought people wouldn’t really care. I really see a lot of potential in this new rifle, but I’ll hold up judgment until the testing is complete.
B.B.
As you are aware, the chinese are capable of producing some cheap replicas of good air rifles, just look at Xisico with their BAM rifles.
But Benjamin puts their name on a good looking unproven chinese product. Many old airgunners that grew up with the Benjamin multipump, made in the USA consider this as heresy. Again you have to look at many companies outsourcing to China so Benjamin is not the first one.
Just waiting for your full review on this one. I will enjoy your no holding back, true assesment on this one.
Thank you
Warren
When you said it was made in China you tripped my interest knob to the “off” position.
BB,
I own two Centerpoint 4x16x40 scopes, and they are not sidewheel adjustable, but rather have the parallax adjustment on the objective bell. At full power there is a noticeable flare in the image, as if it could use a very long sunshade. Never the less they are fine instruments, bright and clear. Is the one on your rifle something new from Centerpoint?
Michael in Florida
B.B.
I need to know if any of the diopter sights Pyramyd sells are a good match for the TAU 200 Senior – D. I thought the Air Arms Diopter Sight would work. The Crosman, Daisy and HW50 diopters all look and are priced similarly.
(The Pyramyd sales rep said I’d be called back. I was not.)
BB,
This post is in response to a question on Friday’s blog regarding the Air Venturi Scope mount.
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The Air Venturi intermount may not fit earlier Benjamin rifles, but it will fit the IZH-61 perfectly with a little shim stock (about 0.020”) between the intermounts and the barrel. I used thin guitar picks. Flexible, easy to cut, and have some “grip”. The spacing between the intermounts on the picatinny rail couldn’t have been more perfect if the mount had been designed for the IZH. It fits between the front of the receiver and the barrel band/clamp with not lateral stress whatsoever. I figured at a price of under $25 dollars it was worth the experiment. As you can see from the photos, the picatinny rail cantilevers to the rear, and does not interfere with the magazine, the side cocking lever, or the magazine release button. Since the barrel threads into the receiver, and the barrel clamp holds the barrel from rotating, the mount is rock solid, and it’s on the barrel, not the plastic receiver. I have tried the receiver dovetail (too short with little option for the correct eye relief) and the Crosman 459MT intermounts ( again, not much option for correct eye relief) and have found the Air Venturi solution to work the best for me. It will require that you use Weaver mounts, but the upside is that the IZH is a mild shooting springer, and the picatinny rail will act as a wonderful scope stop.
By the way, the scope pictured is the Centerpoint 4x16x40 that I mentioned above. As you can see, it is not sidewheel adjustable.
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Regards,
Michael in Florida
Michael,
MEA MAXIMA CULPA!
The scope IS NOT a sidewheel at all! I don’t know how I could examine something (closely?) and make such a huge mistake, but I did.
I will fix the post with red-lettered text to correct the flaw, while leaving it there for all to see.
Thank you!
B.B.
K. Rihanek,
The Air Arms diopter sight should work. The three sights look similar because they are all sourced in China. I cannot say they are identical, since it’s possible for the Chinese to tweak the specs for one customer. But I would trust the Air Arms sight, since they import a similar rifle called the S200, made by the same factory that produces the TAU Senior D.
B.B.
BB,
Thank you very much. I’ll wait for the final report before I decide what action I will take. Nice looking gun though and looks promising.
BobC
Michael in Florida
That’s an amazing-looking gun. Thanks for showing what’s possible. Do you have a use for the higher power of this scope with the IZH-61? What range would this be at?
I had some trouble with eye-relief myself, even with the Bug-Buster scope. But then, I discovered accidentally, how to extend the stock much further. The thumbscrew holding the stock fell out, probably from the repeated vibration of shooting, and I couldn’t get it in again, so to get a closer look, I pulled off the buttstock and darn it if a part fell out that is sort of like a female element to the thumbscrew with a hexagonal base. It turns out that this piece anchors the thumbscrew into the stock, and there are TWO positions in the stock for this new piece. In either one, the stock will slide back and forth two inches, and by choosing the position closer to the stock, you add what looks like an extra two inches to the length of pull. I’m 6’2″, and I didn’t even need the full extension on the new setting. Naturally, when I looked back, this was all laid out in B.B.’s part I report on the IZH-61, but I don’t think it’s made clear in the Pyramidair blurb about this guns which describes only a 2 inch variation in the stock adjustment.
Does the bipod interfere with using a soft hold for the IZH-61? This is a general question I had about bipods for all spring guns. It looks like the kind of rigid support you are supposed to avoid. Looks great, though.
Matt
B.B.
This is a nice-looking gun although I’m a little curious as to why there was such extraordinary anticipation for it. Is it the Benjamin name?
Now is a good time to ask a more general question about spring guns. I’ve heard enough about the extreme hold sensitivity of breakbarrels to wonder why one would want one instead of the underlever and sidelever options. Combing the blogs, the only reason I could find is that they are apparently lighter weight. Is that right? Is there anything else? Such a big breakbarrel like this one would seem to give up the weight benefit.
Matt
Matt,
For me the anticipation was knowing that this design is apparently brand new. It also marks Crosman’s entry into the big spring gun category.
You are correct that weight is the chief benefit of a breakbarrel, though ultimate power is another plus. To get power you need a high airflow, and the sliding compression chambers of sidelevers and underlevers limit the size of the piston, by constraining it to fit inside them. Therefore, a Gamo Hunter Extreme and an RWS Diana 350 Magnum are both more powerful than an RWS Diana 460 Magnum underlever or an RWS Diana 52/48 sidelever.
Robert Beeman talked about this problem when he helped Weihrauch develop the HW77. At one point it was just as powerful as the R1 that was yet to come, but it had to weigh 11 lbs. to get that sort of power from the underlever mechanism.
B.B.
b.b.: With shot placement in the kill zones not being an issue, will the RWS 850 CO2 rifle in .22, kill a rat at a distance of 7.5 yards?, (I have not bought the rifle yet). I want to make sure sure that the rifle will not just wound the poor animal and send it to die, painfully.
Thank you, and I apologize, if, with this question, I come across as to ignorant of the subject.
Michael in Florida,
Great pics of your IZH 61. I love how the muzzlebrake looks on it! Where did get it, or how did you make it? Thanks, J.R.
That looks like a big honking gun – I’m glad to see its introduction, if nothing else just to keep things moving forward.
I have a RWS 350 in .22 (with Centerpoint 4-16 – same as Super Sheridan described – great scope!) and a Tomahawk .177 with Leapers 3-9x, so for now – I’m pretty satisfied with ‘big gun’ needs. Be looking forward to reading more about this one though – I like that thumbhold stock!
Rob,
It will most assuredly kill a rat at up to five times that distance.
B.B.
BB,
you don’t suppose this gun is tainted do you? I mean, if Crossman gave this gun to you for testing under the public eye, they may have put a Luther Walther barrel on it and polished the trigger boost the reputation. Or tweaked it like any good spring gun.
They may not have gone that far, but i would bet anything the gun is not an off the shelf, untested, random gun.
-sumo
B.B. and all TAU owners,
The TAU target rifles have caught my attention. They look to be the next step up from the Daisy 853 rifles in price. How does the performance compare?
Matt
Sumo:
You have an excellent point. But B.B. is a hawk in these issues, aren’t you? Besides everybody knows this is not an over the counter gun. Many people will jump at this gun without even thinking about the reviews, no matter what. If it say’s 1,600 fps that is all that counts in their eyes.
The sad thing is that for experienced air gunners the name of Benjamin will be tarnished if it does not produce 90% of what they say.
Sumo,
No, I don’t suspect that anyone has breathed on this rifle. The trigger is Gamo horrible, so nothing’s been done there and the powerplant has a dry mainspring sound that tells me nobody has been inside.
As for a Lothar Walther barrel, they could do that, I suppose, but what would it get them? One good report, followed by a raft of dissatisfied customers? No, the rifle has to stand on its own feet, and I think this one can, but we’ll see.
B.B.
BB,
No harm done BB. At least you were man enough to admit to it, and make the correction. Now if people like the Prez, O.J. and others could do that, just imagine………(:-)
A question for you BB. If airgun A & B have choked Walther barrels, how can gun A be much more accurate than gun B? I’m asking because of the wide differences of opion I’ve seen in reviews of certain rifles. Have you come across this?
Michael in Florida,
Great pics. It looks real mean.
Thanks,
BobC NJ
BobC,
Here is one way one Walther barrel can be better than another. The twist rare can be different. One barrel can be held to tighter tolerances than the other.
Remember, Bob, Chevrolet makes both the Impala and the Corvette. Don’t expect both to perform the same.
Another way one gun can outshoot another is when the tester uses a Smith Corona instead of a Smith & Wesson. That’s a gun writer’s snide remark that implies that some writers lie.
B.B.
BB,
thanks, that shines a knew light on things. Will you see if the barrel is choked?
-sumo
Sumo,
I assume you mean the barrel of the new Benjamin?
B.B.
BB,
yes, the new Benjamin.
Thanks.
-sumo
BB, just curious – what makes you think the gun is all-new, as opposed to a copy of the Hunter 1250/Extreme action? Also (from what I can tell) the sights look very similar to the opens on the BAM B26-1 variant.
Really curious how it stands up to the M350. Hopefully we’ll find out more tomorrow…
Not sure why my last posting got deleted. But I picked up a TAU rear diopter for my 200 and it has worked out quite well. Boris at Top Gun Air Guns can help you out.
Good luck
Will
Will,
No redirects to other competing websites, please. You can talk about them, but no URLs, please.
B.B.
Vince,
If it is a copy of the Hunter Extreme, and I don’t think it is, then it’s still a new design for the Chinese. Gamo has the Hunter Extreme made in England by BSA.
Sights and triggers show up everywhere. Look at the Rekord trigger and the sights on Weihrauchs.
B.B.
Matt,
I have the scope sighted at 10 meters, and no, you really dont need that kind of power, although at full magnification, that x ring is definiteley distinguishable. I don’t shoot the IZH much past 20 yards.
Funny thing about the bipod. The IZH is a very mild springer, and I’ve never had to use an artillery hold to shoot well with it. I can rest it directly on my suede bags filled with crushed walnut shells, or shoot it from the bipod or shoot it offhand. The POI changes just a bit in each case, but it puts the pellets in the same hole(s).
J.R.,
The muzzlebrake is from a Crosman G1 Xtreme (Remmington Summit, etc.) I made a vinyl sleeve to keep it centered, as the diameters are different. It’s also blued steel, so it adds a little weight to the front end. It, plus the bipod, really help to balance the gun. The Beeman ported muzzlebrake also looks very good on that gun.
Regards,
Michael in Florida
Hi BB,
I was just wondering what kind of targets you use for all your target shooting and where i can get some.
Nate in Mass
Time to give thanks for the gift. Ok, BB, I have had my AZH 61 Baikal for about 4 or 5 days and just want to thank you for your gift. (recommending the rifle). This is truly an amazing piece of workmanship. I have had the best time shooting this rifle. This rifle is already opening the door to me into 10 meter target shooting. I would have to say that every air gunner in the world should include this gun into their arsenal. What a great way to hone in your shooting skills. By the way, I bought a rubber limbsaver recoil pad as I have long arms and this adjustment really feels smooth in the shoulder for a great concentrated shot. Thank you again for your recommendation for a rifle that is truly a “Great Value”! By the way, I am looking real hard at the 46 pistol.
JW Burns,
trust me, you’ll end up buying the IZH 46M… BB did an absolutely wonderful job bringing the 61 to people’s attention, and the guns sell themselves. I own all but the IZH 53 (and the newly imported econo rifles 512?), and just wish they would export some of there other models.. The 61 is a must, but the 46M brings the dream home. Truly amazing gun to shoot – with a substantial feel of something you’ll have for a long while.
Nate,
I use National targets, exclusively. For most of my rifle shooting I use their 11-bull 50-foot smallbore target (A-17), and for most pistol shooting I use their single-bull 10-meter target (B-40).
For firearms I use a 50-foot timed and rapid-fire pistol target (B-3). I use those at 50 yards because they have a large paper area so I don’t lose my shots during a sight-in, which I’m always seeming to do.
B.B.
JW,
I’m so glad to hear your good report on the IZH 61. And I agree with Western PA that you’re going to love the IZH 46M pistol when you get it. You think shooting is good now – just wait!
B.B.
B.B.,
I spoke to someone in the break-barrel division at Crosman about 30 days ago while inquiring about a few of this new gun’s details; I needed to know the barrel length in .22, which he stated at 21″. Is that correct?
I’m having trouble deciding which to get, this rifle or the Hunter Extreme. I’m looking to get it this spring, and like both. I shoot better (standing and sitting) with a thumbhole stock, which is really the main appeal. I also need something powerful and I don’t care if it’s heavy; used exclusively for hunting.
-Matt
Matt,
Well, the Hunter Extreme doesn’t come in .22 so doesn’t that solve the problem for you?
As for barrel length, I give it as 22-7/16″ including the muzzle brake/cocking aid, so 21″ sounds right.
Yes that is too long for a spring gun barrel, but it doesn’t seem to matter to the velocity. And you do need the leverage.
B.B.
B.B.,
Thank you for the advice. I did know the Extreme didn’t come in a .22, but was still considering it after reading your report and the rifle’s reviews. Looking forward to reading the rest of your report on this gun.
-Matt
I doubt the .22 will ever exeed 20 fpe,even close to that would be good though.
The real question is how long will they hold up at that power level? You can shoot a gun over a chrony but that doesn’t test how long the gun will hold up for. I’d say about 1000 shots for those at best. Then it’s rebuild time.
Not good enough for me,but then,i’m not a springer guy.
I was reading owners manuel it says to lube the air chamber every 200 shots .This super streak have a leather seal,do you know,reason im asking,like to get one but don’t want one if it has leather.
Dano,
What a surprise. I was going to say they had a typo, but “… every few hundred shots.” cannot be a mistake.
All I can say is Crosman doesn’t understand spring guns yet. I don’t know where this comes from, but I will look into it.
The Super Streak has a synthetic seal. No leather-sealed air rifle ever topped 900 f.p.s., unless it was detonating.
B.B.
Hi B.B.,
Must say, I’m keenly interested in the .22 Super Streak. When do you anticipate your next review installment for the .22?
You were right, PyramydAir was forced to change the shipment arrival date from Dec 19th to January.
Concerns of mine are obviously accuracy. Fingers crossed there. Would this barrel’s accuracy have been improved had it been choked?
Scope stop. Since it comes with a scope already mounted, given the abuse magnum springers inflict upon scope stop holes, have you examined the stop for design and durability? Is it aluminum? Will it go the distance without slipping?
Trigger. You’ve indicated that the trigger is similar to Gamo. Do you know (can you find out) whether a replacement trigger will be available? Will the GRT III trigger fit this rifle?
Gas spring conversion. Clearly, the new buzz. Will the Super Streak take a gas spring conversion today? Is it being offered or planned?
In one comment I believe you made, you mentioned this rifle is underpriced for its value. Do you still feel this way? Do you expect its price to increase anytime soon?
Many thanks!
Bill
Bill,
I don’t know when the Super Steaks will be in, and then I have to wait for the backorders to get shipped. It will probably be several months before I get a .22.
I advised Crosman to choke the barrel, but I don’t think they did. The .177 isn’t.
Sure a gas spring could be made for the Super Streak. Because it will come in .22, it is probably a good candidate.
I will be testing the GRT III trigger in the Super Streak soon.
The scope mount is attached directly to a steel spring cylinder with a proper scope stop pin hole. I don’t think it will be a problem.
B.B.
B.B.
I recently picked up, what I believe to be, a precursor of the Benjamin Super Streak. I found it at a local big chain sporting goods store, they indicated that a few had come in in Dec. ’07. I got the last one and it was their “demo”.
It’s called a Benjamin “Elite Powermaster” and, from what I can tell, is identical to the Super Streak with the exception of the included scope. Mine has a Centerpoint 3-9×40 (non-illuminated).
I’ve noticed a few things that I was hoping to get your opinion on. First, this rifle is impossible to break without actually hitting it over one’s knee to get it to release from the locked position. The compression stroke seems to work fine thereafter. I’ve never had a breakbarrel that required this sort of maneuver, is that “normal”…and will it eventually “wear in” to the point where this is unnecessary?
The stock is absolutely gorgeous but does have a shiny laquered finish rather than the matte finish. The thumbhole is very comfortable. I’ve got other firearms with thumbhole stocks and really prefer this grip. Unfortunately, the stock does not offer the best fit to the action, in my opinion. There seems to be a bit of extra play between the two even after separating the two and reassembly and retightening all the screws (4).
The accuracy has been impressive. My outdoor range is at 20 yards and I can consistantly put in very tight groups at about 3/8″. The type of ammo used certainly makes a difference. I have not used much more than a half a dozen different types of ammo, but the Gamo Match pellets are most accurate by far. Funny thing is, the rifle came with Crosman’s Silver Eagle (lead-free) hollowpoints and the accuracy was HORRIBLE. I’m not quite sure why they’d include something that would give such a poor first impression.
As I’ve now fired approximately 250 rounds through it, I’ve noticed something disturbing. The scope base had some metal shearing off the rear of the base where the slots in the barrel end. I can only surmise that the substantial recoil of this powerful rifle has caused it to slide rearward and has now damaged the scope base. As I mentioned, this was the “floor model” when I purchased it, and the scope was already mounted. I checked all screws and tightened each before the initial sighting-in period. They were all tight, and remain tight…yet the scope still managed to slide on the rails. There must not be an integrated stop underneath the mount. I have no way of telling if there is because, unfortunately, I cannot get all 4 screws out to remove the scope base. Three of the screws can be loosened and removed, but the fourth won’t budge and I’m not about to destroy the screws trying to get them out. I am planning on taking it back to the store and attempting to get a refund.
Overall, I was very impressed with the look and feel of this rifle. The accuracy is impressive and the power is certainly there. Unfortunately, the quality and “fit & finish” leave something to be desired. Hopefully, if this was some sort of prototype to the Super Streak, Benjamin/Crosman has addressed these issues and the Super Streak is a finished product. If that is the case, I will most certainly buy one of those when they become available.
Thanks,
Rick Dobler
gottafly@bellsouth.net
Rick,
Can you look under the scope rail to see if there is a vertical stop pin hanging down? That’s what I did with the Super Streak.
As for opening the barrel, here is the trick. Learn to slap the muzzle to break it open. That trick started with the Webley Patriot and it’s the only way to open some of the big bruisers.
Yes, the non-lead Crosman pellets have horrible accuracy. They include them to satisfy the chronographers that only care about velocity.
I would re-think selling this gun back to the store. You apparently have a Benjamin model that was never made, so why not double your money by selling to a collector? Try one of the free airgun classified ads on the web.
B.B.
Hi All,
U aksi have the Benjamin “Elite Powermaster” version of the super streak. Same “non-illuminated” center point scope. I love the accuracy but have learned the hard way that only very few pellets are accurate in this gun. 1) you need a pellet that has a diametter to fit snug in the barrel. Gamo Rockets, I think they are called, work well – you know, the ones withthe little bb in the tip. The fire much slower but hit in tight groops consistantly.
I am venturing out to more expensive rounds like the preditor series and also the Hyper-Velocity Long Range plastic jobs. I find that the longer the pellet and the tighter the fit the tighter the group. I’m shooting at approx 90 Yds and drop them in the size of a quarter. If you go to other faster and/or looser pellets, groups jump to an unimpressive 4″ plus.
This is a hard gun to shoot (coming from an ex-long range center fire iron target guy.
Any tips on firing a heavy spring mammoth like this would be helpful… Also want to find a good Bi-Pod for this gun. Save my arm a little anguish….
Tim…
I live in Canada so the version here is under 500 fps. Can anyone tell me if you can upgrade this to the normal fps please, it's in .22 cal and you can see it at
http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443311035&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672319&bmUID=1237005693790
i might buy it if you can upgrade it thanks alot!
Anonymous Canadian with the upgrade question,
The link you provided appears to be the Benjamin Superstreak and the specs show 495 fps in .22 for the Canadian version.
You probably visited the Pyramyd AIR site and saw that the U.S. version has specs of 1,100 fps in .22 so “upgrading” or making the gun shoot faster is of course possible.
The bigger questions is, are you sure you want to? Isn’t it true that any gun in Canada that shoots over 500 fps is classified as a firearm and must be registered?
kevin
yeah im getting my fac soon anyways
Anonymous in Canada wanting to increase fps in the streak,
Would assume that you would need the US spec factory spring to increase velocity. You may want to try Benjamin to see if they will supply you with a spring. The number one source in the US for aftermarket springs is Jim Maccari. I understand Jim is shut down now because of some health issues but we all hope he is back in business soon. Here’s a link to his site:
http://www.airguns.citymax.com/page/page/251327.htm
kevin
Just purchased a superstreak in .22 yesterday for $269.00 + tax at Academy and have only got to handle it a little, certainly is a big heavy airgun. Will look it over a little today tho we are supposed to have wind gusting up to 50 plus so probably will not get to shoot it much. Need to take some precautionary steps in regard to scope and mounts first anyway. All advise and comments is welcome as I am new to this type of air gun.
Anonymous with the new Superstreak,
Congratulations on your new airgun purchase!
Please keep us informed about your experiences with the new gun. Did you know B.B. wrote 2 additional parts for this series he did on the superstreak. I’ll give you a link that will take you to part 3. At the top of part 3 you can click on part 2 inorder to read this series in order. You’ll need to copy and paste this address:
/blog/2007/12/the-benjamin-sheridan-super-streak-part-3/
Did you know that B.B. does a new airgun related article every day (Monday-Friday)? You posted your comment about the your new superstreak under an article that B.B. did in 2007. Most airgunners, like yourself, are sharing their experiences, asking and answering questions undert he most recent article that B.B. has written. Please join us there and tell us about your superstreak experiences. Here’s a link to the most recent article, scroll down to the bottom of the article and click on “comments” to join the current/active discussion:
/blog//
Look forward to seeing you there!
kevin
what is the most accurate type of ammo for the .177 benjamin super streak?
Anonymous asking about the most accurate ammo in a .177 Benjamin Super Streak,
Have you read the other two parts in the 3 part series B.B. did on the Super Streak? The link is in the reply right above your comment.
Each gun is different so you may want to try several pellets. In B.B.'s test of his .177 Super Streak the JSB Exact's were the most accurate pellet. As important as the pellet was in his test the hold that B.B. used was critical in getting the Super Streak to group. Here's the link again that will take you to part 3 of the series. You can click on "Part 2" at the top of this article to read in sequence:
/blog/2007/12/the-benjamin-sheridan-super-streak-part-3/
kevin
hey bb pelletier
I had done considerable research on this gun and was wondering, as u have fired all the guns i like. According to you which gun among walther talon magnum .177, benjamin super streak .177 and benjamin trail np xl .177 is the most powerful, accurate, hight velocity and sturdy. I prefer .177 because they are more accurate and much faster and are of competition grade. I had this query that does installation of a gas spring decrease the power of the gun?. Could you please suggest me an air rifle on the above preferences or any other rifle under 350$, i would be highly thankful,
Regards
Adway
Adway,
First you need to understand that .177 IS NOT the most accurate in a powerful spring gun like this. It shoots too fast to be accurate. Above 1,000 f.p.s. a pellet loses a lot of accuracy.
Also, these rifles are not of competition grade. They are far down on the scale of spring guns. A competition grade gun would shoot less than 900 f.p.s.
Of the three, I have only tested two. I have not tested the Benjamin Trail.
Of the two I tested, the Benjamin Super Streak is probably the most accurate. Because all three of these are brerakbarrels they are the hardest airguns to shoot accurately. They require extreme amounts of handling to shoot well. You will have to learn and use the artillery hold all the time to shoot small groups.
Gas springs should not change the power of a rifle. In some Gamo guns the power goes down in .22 caliber because the gun isn't made for that caliber, but these three are all made for power.
B.B.
what if one uses a heavy .177 pellet in these fast magnum guns? does that increase the accuracy. I should be considering the .22 cal guns too.
Addy
Accuracy is determined by many things. It can be thought of as a perfect marriage of rifle and pellet. Accuracy in pellets is best when kept at sub-supersonic ranges. A heavier pellet should help achieve that, in a .177 magnum powered rifle.
All things considered, try as many pellets as you can, in whatever rifle you've got, to eke out the most accuracy potential.
Your last sentence says it all. If it is power for hunting tough small game, or whatever you want power for, get a .22. There are plenty of very powerful, accurate .22s out there. But if target shooting, and cheap pellets are your game, get a sub-magnum powered .177 Accuracy will come easier, and over a wider range of distances, and it is all you will ever need.
One last thing, the blog article you posted your question to is over two years old. Very few people will see your question here as most traffic occurs at the current day's blog which is always found here:
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Scroll down only as far as the first article to post your comment, as there is a week's worth of blogs at that address. Don't worry about being off-topic, that is welcomed here. You will get the fastest responses from the most knowledgeable people by posting your questions this way.
hope to see you there Addy