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Wednesday, March 26, 2008

RWS Diana Schutze - Part 1
New youth breakbarrel rifle

by B.B. Pelletier


RWD Diana Schutze is a beautiful new youth-sized breakbarrel.


I asked for this rifle and RWS USA responded. The RWS Diana Schutze breakbarrel is an answer to my prayers for more and better youth-oriented spring rifles. I get emails every week from parents asking which model air rifles are suited to their kids. There are a few good ones at present, but the number has slipped over the past 20 years. With the magnum craze going full-bore, airgun manufacturers have taken their eyes off the youth market, yet that market is important for several reasons. First is the fact that we can never have too many good airguns for young shooters. They will probably stick with the shooting sports if they have early success, and a quality air rifle is just the ticket for that. But, there's another, less-obvious reason that's even more important.

Adults like 'em, too!
The market may be red-hot for testosterone-laden, supersonic, magnum spring rifles, but think of youth guns as the minivans of airgunning. Everyone uses them without comment. Long after the bragging rights have worn thin on that super-blaster, the shooter will remember a gentle shooting air rifle with a smile. Beeman sells the R7 on that premise. There were a lot of wonderful spring guns competing for honors in that category back in 1985; in 2008, the choices are fewer. Enter the RWS Diana Schutze.

The name game
This rifle may be new here in the U.S., but the model has been in production since the 1990s. On the rifle, it says model 240, which is the current version of the model 24. When Diana dropped the models 23, 25, 27 and 35 in favor of the models 34, 36 and 38, the models 24 and 28 were also created. The model 28 is a more powerful rifle than the obsolete model 27 and the model 24 was a smaller, lighter rifle. It is supposed to be almost as powerful as the 27, though its size is between a 23 and a 25.


The name Schutze is not on the rifle. It's the model 240.


Technical
I measured every one of the specifications I mention here. They may not be the same ones you see online. The Schutze is small in almost every way. The total length is just 40 inches, yet the pull is an adult-sized 14.25-inches. It will feel like a lightweight carbine in adult hands. The barrel measures exactly 16 inches. The rifle weighs just 6 pounds and cocks with 21 pounds of effort. I'd like to see that cocking figure reduced to 15 lbs. or less, but it's a number I can live with. The ball-bearing barrel locking detent is stiff and will require a slap to open initially, but it'll wear in and become super-smooth.

Trigger
The trigger is not adjustable. It's two-stage with pronounced creep in the second stage. The pull is stiff, breaking at around 6 lbs. While that sounds heavy, remember this rifle is intended for young shooters, whose trigger fingers aren't always as disciplined as they should be. No doubt, it'll become smoother and lighter with use, but never too light. The specs say 5 lbs., which sounds about right.

An automatic safety is set every time the rifle is cocked, no different than any other Diana spring rifle. The safety button comes back from the rear of the receiver, so it's a snap to take off with your thumb when grasping the rifle to shoot. It can also be reset at any time (cocked or not) and simply blocks the trigger from moving.


Safety sets when the rifle is cocked. Note the lack of a scope stop on the 11mm dovetail scope rails.


Stock
The beech stock is slim in all dimensions, which adds to the handy feeling the little rifle evokes when you hold it. The buttpad is a solid black rubber pad that keeps the rifle in place when it's stood in the corner. The wood is stained a medium-to-dark brown and is finished smoothly all over. There's no checkering, and the shape is completely symmetrical, making this model 100 percent ambidextrous.

Sights
The front sight is a hooded post with a red fiberoptic bead at the top. It sits atop a molded synthetic ramp with side vents for style. The whole assembly is attached permanently to the barrel and cannot be removed. With target lighting, the front sight bead goes dark, becoming a perfect square post.

The rear sight is a square notch with green fiberoptic beads on either side of the notch. Unlike the front, they do not go dark with target lighting and will continue to frame the front post in all light. The rear sight adjusts in both directions with crisp click detents. There's a scale for the vertical adjustment wheel, but none for the horizontal.

There's a scope rail, but it has no scope stop provisions. I'm recommending to RWS Diana that they drill and tap a hole for a simple mechanical scope stop, because shooters today tend to use scopes over open sights.

I was very happy to see this rifle at this year's SHOT Show and asked to test it as soon as possible. Right after IWA (the European SHOT Show) finished in mid-March, the gun was sent to me. I plan on putting it through its paces because we really need more good youth guns. Adults are demanding them!

19 Comments:

At March 26, 2008 7:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about the HW30s ?

 
At March 26, 2008 7:19 AM, Anonymous Scott298 said...

B.B.--Scott298 reporting in. I was wondering if you can cast a little light on this subject. Someone has told me that they have an old rws-I believe that it is a springer- and that it is chambered in 9mm. Did rws or Diana ever produce such a gun and if so do you know anything about it? Thanks-Scott298 and as always send your wife my regsards.

 
At March 26, 2008 9:17 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

HW 30,

Yes, the HW30 is another good youth gun, as is the new Hammerli 490.

B.B.

 
At March 26, 2008 9:21 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Scott298,

This is why it is important to differentiate between RWS, an importer/exporter of airguns only, and Diana, the company who makes the guns RWS exports/imports. RWS makes no airguns.

RWS USA has private-labeled many other airguns over the years. At one time in the 1990s they were selling the TX 200.

The 9mm of which you speak is a Career Fire 201, converted to 9mm. In other words, a PCP. All RWS ever did was put their name on it, as they did the Career 7097 for a while.

B.B.

 
At March 26, 2008 10:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

BB, with regards to your SS1000 dual-cal test... have you checked the forearms screws to make sure they're still tight? If they are loose, might that account for the difficulty you had in getting it to shoot well?

Vince

 
At March 26, 2008 10:44 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Vince,

I plan to do just one more report on that rifle. I will check the tightness of the screws and report it in that last report.

B.b.

 
At March 26, 2008 1:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe I have figured out how to zero a sniper rifle that you have to assemble!!!! Use a laser bore sight. And I think there was another idea about using mirrors to zero a scope although maybe that was just for parallax adjustment; I didn't quite follow. Anyway, maybe some of this will help with retaining the zero when switching barrels on the SS1000.

B.B., I've got a question about benchresting. I just purchased the Beeman sandbags from the PA site. Upon examination, I find that they need to be filled with a funnel through a tiny hole. So, that would seem to cut out the crushed walnuts as filler. I'll just stick with sand. The other thing is that the bags are pretty small and look like they'll need something under them. I'm wondering if you have any recommendations for what to put under the benchrest bags. It doesn't seem to make sense to spend a lot of money on the specially-designed leather bags and punch them into shape then put them on any old foundation.

Matt61

 
At March 26, 2008 1:51 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Matt61,

If lasers always went to their registration, then it would work. But they don't.

However, if the laser is incorporated into the same housing as the scope, it would work. But the laser would have to be invisible or the sniper would give away his position.

I would use wood planks under the bags. Remember the rear slope under your stock will make an excellent elevation slope on the bag.

B.B.

 
At March 26, 2008 5:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm really pleased that you devote time to air rifles in this category.
I have a big back yard with a nice high fence...so even though I live in the city centre I can with a gun like this (I just ordered a Slavia 630) go out and plink in my backyard while the burgers are on the barbcue.
Can't really do that with a magnum.
I think you hit the head on the nail...these may be youth guns but they sure have an appeal to us adults too.

 
At March 26, 2008 6:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

B.B.
I see the "Edge" has hit the Pyramyd site. You're going to be a busy man!
Brian.

 
At March 26, 2008 9:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

B.B.

I was thinking that the sniper would crawl into place in advance and laser the target area when no one was looking or maybe use one of those lasers that you can't see in daylight except with a scope, but I do see this is not so simple.

Wood planks it is. They sound a little cumbersome but cheap and solid enough. Thanks.

By the way, I've had quite the breakthrough in match pistol shooting. Before, I was dropping the sights onto the target from above. The idea was to let gravity do the work, but I wasn't able to see the bullseye before it flashed in front of the sights. Now, I've taken to coming up from below until I'm just under the bullseye, then making the tiniest movement upward and touching off the shot. Boy, the Daisy 747 is really showing its stuff now.

Matt61

 
At April 27, 2008 10:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A little late but..
The Diana 240 with an adult size stock is NOT a rifle for a youth. Well maybe if the kid is 5'9". For a youth, you need to get the Length of Pull down to fit a kid. Unless you shoulder a rifle with a LoP that is too long, you won't understand what a kid feels when he shoulders an adult sized stock.

 
At September 07, 2008 4:53 PM, Blogger Mark Gielow said...

OK... you said there are no "stupid questions". Here is mine. Is it possible to use BBs in this rifle? The reason I ask is that pellet guns are covered by local ordinances (and cannot be used where I live), whereas BBs are OK. Hence my question. Thanks!

 
At September 08, 2008 5:50 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Mark,

No, It is not possible to use BBs in the Schutze. When a rifle is built to shoot both BBs and pellets, there has to be some mechanism to hold the BBs in place before they are fired, because they are too small for the barrel. Also, the rifling has to be special, or the steel BB will ruin it.

B.B.

 
At April 16, 2009 3:58 PM, Anonymous Jake H. said...

You could shoot lead round balls!

 
At June 21, 2009 1:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At what velocity does a pellet have to go at to seem like it instantaneously left the gun and hit the target? Will the Shutze be like that?
Thanks

 
At June 21, 2009 3:13 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

That depends on two things--velocity and the distance to the target.

B.B.

 
At June 22, 2009 2:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

580fps, 10 meters.

 
At June 22, 2009 2:53 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

At 10 meters it will seem instantaneous.

B.B.

 

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