by B.B. Pelletier
You know how I like to tell tales of vintage airguns. Well, today, I have one that’s more than vintage–this one is nearly mythical! It’s the 1927 Gasser-Kanardly vacuum gun.
Ferdinand Gasser was a German tool maker who had an interest in airguns. He knew about powerful precharged guns like air canes, and there’s evidence that he may have even made one or two canes. But his most famous airgun has got to be the 1927 Gasser-Kanardly vacuum gun.
We all know that a PCP works by expelling a pellet with a huge blast of air behind it. Well, Gasser wondered how effective a vacuum AHEAD of the pellet would be! His early experiments proved that a vacuum was not enough to start a lead pellet on its journey. He evacuated all the air in front of pellet after pellet, and they either remained in the breech as an effective plug or were slowly sucked down the barrel as friction was overcome. But the velocity never rose above about 50 f.p.s. That was estimated by means of a ballistic pendulum, which was all that was available to him in that day.
He also had several technical problems with the design. One was getting the muzzle to open in time for the pellet to shoot out. The vacuum apparatus had to keep the muzzle sealed to keep the vacuum as high as possible, but it also blocked the pellet’s path. That meant that the ballistic pendulum had to be placed inside the vacuum chamber, which made it the size of a small room!
The other problem was the size of the vacuum apparatus. It was many times larger than the gun. While good for a laboratory experiment, it wasn’t convenient for taking the gun to the field. Fortunately, he overcame both problems and also got a super boost at the other end to increase velocity above 750 f.p.s., for a .22 caliber pellet. This all happened when he had the good fortune to meet Trevor Kanardly, who was attending university in the same Bavarian town where Gasser lived.
Kanardly was the son of a wealthy British shipping magnate, who had sent his third son to Germany to study physics. But Kanardly was something of a playboy who was more interested in parties, young women and riding around the countryside on a BMW motorcycle. However, he soon befriended Gasser, who tutored him in his physics studies so he could remain at university.
When he learned of Gasser’s gun, he quickly solved both problems with an ingenious solution. He suggested a barrel jacket to contain the vacuum. He reasoned that the volume of the vacuum only had to be large enough to compensate for the volume of the bore and could, therefore, be quite small. Gasser quickly saw the genius of this and made a small barrel jacket to hold the vacuum. Small holes in the side of the barrel at the muzzle allowed the air to be evacuated from the bore.
The other good idea was a frangible plug at the muzzle that the pellet would shatter on its way out. Bavarian clay soil–very much like gumbo–proved the ticket when mixed with beer, of all things! It made a natural plug that was strong enough to withstand the hard vacuum, yet shattered like glass when struck by a lead pellet moving faster than 300 f.p.s. The same material was later used in the German Air Force ramjet project as a plug to keep the air intake closed until the air velocity had reached ramjet speeds.
The plug worked, but the pellet still had to be shot through it and the vacuum wasn’t strong enough to do that. So, Kanardly suggested putting a spring piston on the other end of the gun. That was the solution Gasser had been searching for! It turns out that a lead pellet pushed by a vintage spring-piston powerplant might only get up to 500 f.p.s when it has to fight normal air pressure, but when shot into a vacuum, it races well past 800 f.p.s.! Some energy is lost breaking through the frangible muzzle plug, but Gasser recorded many velocities at or above 750 f.p.s.
The two prototype guns he built were indeed portable enough to be carried and shot, though the support equipment consisting of a vacuum pump and extra muzzle plugs had to go with the guns in a motorized transport. Both guns and all supporting equipment was destroyed in World War II, and all we have today is a couple of reports written in the German gun magazine Visier.
A British airgunner stumbled on the Gasser-Kanardly design in 1996 and used modern materials to build a copy of the gun. It actually worked much better than the original because the spring-piston powerplant he used was so vastly improved over what was available in 1927. Reportedly, Nigel Andersen of Surrey was able to get .22 pellet velocities in excess of 1,000 f.p.s. He had to substitute a chalk plug for the Bavarian gumbo plug, and it didn’t seal, so he used a rubber seal on the muzzle side.
Andersen’s gun was reported in a special edition of Air Gunner published June 31, 1999. He was also fortunate that modern vacuum pumps are so much more efficient than those used by Gasser and Kanardly. In Andersen’s own words, “This thing really sucks!”
I want to wish all of my faithful readers a happy and pleasant April first!
Had me goin’ – that’s for sure. Although sumthin’ smelled fishy when you wrote about more than doubling the muzzle energy simply from what is effectively a 15psi increase in pressure differential across the pellet.
The beer plug part sounded very plausible to me. After all – we’re talking about BEER! Is there anything it CAN’T do???
Good morning B.B.,
Excellent job:). Well done! “This thing really sucks”. Great way to end–thanks for starting my day with a smile.
Vince-have your checked the reviews of the Marauder on PA’s web site? I would have thought that B.B. would have posted his review here before someone did it there, but what do I know???
Mr B.
Mr. B.,
Mañana. It would have been today but for the date.
B.B.
It sounds a lot to me like what the Germans have done to their Volkswagons: turned complicated. Like a Cadillac they ride smooth and drive well, but they’re a real pain to do even the most basic maintenance. I’m curious why he even considered such an experiment. Any information on why his theories came about? JP
It has always amazed my how many things seem to “work much better” when mixed with any form of alcohohlic beverage…
(LOL)
BB,
When I was 16 years old, my Father gave me a Rolls Kanardly for my birthday. It “rolls” downhill quite well, but “Kanardly” roll back up.
Kind regards,
Michael in Florida
Michael,
I hoped someone would get that. Trevor’s uncle was the inventor of the Rolls Kanardly, and for the first 5 years of my adult driving life I drove nothing else.
B.B.
I understand that Herr Gasser is a distant cousin of another innovator of evacuation Thomas Crapper.
B.B.
Although vacuum guns can be effective, extreme caution must be exersized, due to the nature of the design. My sources relate that early in the develpment of the Gasser-Kanardly, one of the technicians made a near fatal mistake while at the range. Realizing that he had left the required vacuum pump at the lab, the foolish lacky attempted to apply the vacuum by using his mouth. Since a pellet must necessarily be loaded before vacuum is applied, this is definitely not a good idea. As you can guess, the gun discharged unexpectedly, taking out a significant portion of the technician’s grey matter. Miraculously, this man survived, although seriously diminished in his mental capacity. He was ultimately forced to leave the lab and settle for a career in politics.
– Jim in KS
B.B.,
I heard a rumor that PA is going to carry a New related product line due to the frantic plea of a very nice lady, and the sales should be very good. They are calling it, "B.B. Instant Wall & Sofa Repair Kit."
Enjoy your Blog and all of the good comments, only have 14 months of back blogs to catch up on.
Really enjoyed your short stories on the Remember When Blog.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks,
Boyd
No joke, google for “ping pong vacuum” and see what you get. There’s a physics demo that works very much like the mythical Gasser Kanardly. The only differences are that it’s real, it uses a ping pong ball and they get near-sonic velocities. It’s pretty amazing what a ping pong ball can do at 1100 fps! I hate to admit it, but I was completely fooled by BB’s post because I had already seen the ping pong vacuum canon, so I thought that this was the same principle applied to the .22 pellet.
Herb,
Is there a way to figure out how the length of the barrel relates to the velocity of the pellet?
Jane Hanson, how about a space station experiment–barrel passing through a “gun port”, mechanical plug in end of barrel released by pressing trigger, vacuum pulls pellet out, sensor sees pellet’s exit and closes plug. Just a thought.
Mr B.
Word verification–defun
I already thought about something like this, but just using a spring piston, or gas ram.
When the trigger is pressed and the piston released, it could compress the air as it does now in front of the piston, but why not use the other side of the sealed compress chamber to cause a vaccum in (suck) the barrel?
I know that it should decrease the compression power, but also could compensate because of the vaccum created.
Mr B.
Very simple…….
Start with a Eun Jin in a 2″ barrel. Shoot it over a chrono that is set up right at 50 yds.
Next, put on a 2′ barrel,set up the chrono 6″ from the muzzle with the chrony folded at 45 degrees. Shoot a raptor with a drop of 3 in 1 oil in the base over it. Add 500 fps to the chrony reading.
Now you can easily calculate how much velocity is gained per inch of barrel.
twotalon
BB,
Excellent post! I’m looking forward to tomorrow’s part two and the pictures of the Gasser-Kanardly you picked up at this years Deutches geshotten show.
-Chuck
I knew airgunning was ready for a new product that basically sucked.
Excellent work, BB. You’re getting older, but you’re not getting any less weird.
The Trout Underground.
Sad day all,
Left vs. right finally came to a head in our family..
My wife was fine with air guns.. sort of.. but I've been going wild buying firearms & Ammo of all types for the last couple months.. (like most other gun people.. but not from fear of politics, just because they are damn good fun!! and I wanted to "taste" them.. and then taste that one too..
But when she saw my second gun cabinet totally filled too.. and then stacks and stacks of ammo.. the poop hit the fan so to speak..
and a choice between firearms and marriage was given!!
So my friends.. you'll find some great deals on Gunbroker listed by Wacky Wayne..
and many more to come shortly..
only airgunning now..
Wayne..
BB,
I was hoping you would forego the April Folly and perhaps write up the history of the Krupp’s pneumatic cannon, used so successfully by Bismarck’s (born 1 April) troops. The design was based on Ctesibius’ as described by Philo of Alexander.
Wayne,
That is not good:(…can you at least keep a set for hunting?
MR. B.,
RE: “Is there a way to figure out how the length of the barrel relates to the velocity of the pellet?”
Yes, but what is the model for the travel of the pellet down the barrel?
I had asked for someone to post the starting and ending pressure for a string of shots with the Discovery. I couldn’t find the information in any web articles that I found. I was trying to figure out how, on average, much gas the valve released for each shot.
My notion was to assume that a “plug” of gas was created that pushed the pellet down the barrel at full pressure until the average volume of air dumped by the valve was reached. The valve would then close, and the gas dumped by the valve would then expand, with decreasing pressure, and push the pellet out of the barrel. This would allow a rough estimate of the upper velocity possible.
Now to get something more reasonable you’d have to add a friction factor for the pellet down the barrel. The nasty estimation would have to be for the pellet to be formed to the lands and groves. No doubt the pellet actually starts moving before the pressure behind the pellet reaches the maximum pressure. Now with the pellet moving before the gas pressure builds to the maximum, you’d need some estimate of how fast the gas actually flows through the valve.
All of these refinements still ignore the fact that the gas molecules can only travel so fast. I do believe that once you start approaching the speed of sound that the velocity of the gas molecules themselves becomes a factor in the efficiency of the power transfer.
Now all of the above has neglected any discussion of the pellet itself. From experimental evidence we all know that wide variations in velocity occur with different pellets. It isn’t just the weight of the pellet that causes velocity variations. There is something about the pellet design itself that causes variations. The diameter of the head and skirt, the malleability of the alloy and so forth. So modeling the rifle, without modeling the pellet, is useless.
In the end, it doesn’t seem that a really useful model is easily created. It certainly would be within the computational ability of supercomputers that simulate atomic bomb explosions. But I doubt that the US military will be convinced that a better pellet gun design is more useful than a new atom bomb.
😉
Herb
Nope..
She said “how can we have kids around the house”.. I leave the keys in the gun safe all the time.. I guess I’m just not a careful enough person to do the firearms thing…
I might be able to keep a couple at Josh or Nate’s house..
No biggy.. I got to taste them anyway.. and I haven’t been spending enough time on field target practice anyway.. I can’t really do both and expect to get good enough to compete anyway.. so It’s really a good thing..
I’ll miss the old cowboy guns most..
Wayne
B.B.,
You had me going on that one. Popped me right out of my “too serious” mode !
Lloyd
Vince,
I got your last package of fixed air guns, and finally got to testing them.. I can’t believe you got the Markham and Slavia 614 working again.. they were so far gone.. but you saved their lives!!
The Crosman V350 push barrel came out great too.. she’s shooting great and cocking smooth.
The Slavia 624 shoots with such a nice thud and the loose fit at the breech hinge is all gone on all the rifles and pistols.. they all fit and cock like new.. or BETTER!!
The Slavia ZVP spring pistol was so loose and had no power.. it shoots better than new now, and it’s tight and solid..
And the prewar Diana 27 you made the custom front sight for and mounted the mendoza peep sight on.. looks so professional and shoots like the quality piece that it is..
Now we’re ready for the long distance bucket contest!! Are we still doing that guys?
happy camper Wayne..
Wayne,
Sounds like you don’t have any children yet. believe me, when you have children you quickly create a different set of priorities.
Even with pellet guns you’ll need to teach the children about guns. I always had guns in the house. I knew that I shouldn’t fool around with’em lest my Dad go ballistic. To this day I’m convinced that if he had caught me fooling around with one of the guns that he would have busted it over my hard head.
Children don’t just play with guns. they also drink house hold cleaners; run in the street; play with scissors, knives, and matches; and on and on. Then when a child gets older there is the holy trinity of driving, drugs, and sex. It is a miracle that any kids survive to adulthood.
My grandfather sent me a go-cart as a kid. My Dad and a neighbor took it over to a school parking lot. Drove it around one time. I went around some buses and it skidded on the sand. I wedged it under the back of a school bus. It stopped with my head about 6 inches from the bumper. That was it for the go-cart.
You think of a way to get into trouble and a kid somewhere has done it.
Herb
Too bad Wayne, I sympathize. My wife is comes from a Mennonite background (heavy on the non-violence). In reality I was quite surprised when 2 years ago I brought up the Red Ryder for our eldest (now 8) and she grudgingly agreed…based stricly on her feeling that I would be very responsible.
She has shown some concern over our increasing arsenal…especially the addition of the PPK and CP-99…because of how realistic they look. I think she rightly worried that if the boys somehow got them outside they could get themselves into some deadly trouble.
Even though they are ‘only’ air pistols they are kept in locked pistol cases and the key is safely hidden.
I do know that she would not be happy with real firearms in the house and in truth, until the boys are older I have admit she has a point. We live in the city, so don’t really ‘need’ firearms for putting food on the table.
So I have to be content to haunting some of the local gunshops and gun shows.
CowBoyStar Dad
BB,
Gasserly-Kanardly didn’t think of it, but their design could be used without the plug as an airgun silencer.
You had me going there for a minute! It takes a smart cookie to put together a plausible fake! I have been swamped at work lately, so it was nice to relax a minute and enjoy your April Fools brilliancy.
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Wayne,
I have the same problem although I’m generally happy without firearms. I would like to have something “in case” since we have had bear and cougar around, but I haven’t convinced my wife yet.
I do keep the airguns locked up in a gun cabinet with the key kept elsewhere for the safety of my kids.
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Anyone looked up “gasser-canardly air gun” on google?
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BBA,
I answered your question on the RWS 850 post.
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Herb,
I do have a son 33 and a daughter 30.. so she is thinking grand kids.. and nieces and nephews.. we do have visiting nieces and nephews on occasion.. more often we hope!! and we are praying for grand kids too..
And I’m good about hiding the keys when they are on the way.. but when no kids are around… I don’t bother until night time… that’s what got me in trouble.. her fear is….I could forget.. and I have to admit, I’m so wacky.. that is possible..
CowBoyStar Dad,
That’s a good point about maybe getting in trouble “outside”.. I guess you mean the air pistol might be mistaken for a real gun..
That could be a “deadly” situation..
Anyway.. go to Gunbroker and buy, buy, buy!!
Wayne
Wayne,
Sorry to hear you’re leaving firearms. As they say, it is better to have shot and lost, then to never have shot at all. I must say, I was a little surprised you didn’t negotiate a compromise. Starting out asking for way more then you want and settling for what you really desire is a time honored tradition.
I also have to add I feel much more comfortable that my kids have grown up in a home with firearms and understand and respect them. They have actually corrected me for not wearing safety glasses or pointing an airsoft at the dog. I feel 100 % that accidents are much more likely when a child is never familiarized with guns.
When I first started dating my wife, I had left my .222 out on my bed after a ground hog hunt. She was coming over for dinner and I was running behind so I hit the kitchen to make my famous gravy for the pasta.
While making the meatballs, I heard “I see you” and looked up to see my future wife looking through the scope on the Remington at my head. Now I knew that in my haste I had not unloaded the rifle. This was also a rifle made before heavy lawyer triggers, and at 15 feet I would be hard to miss. I lived alone in an apartment and had made a mistake assuming no one would get to the .222 before me. My bad. But now I saw her finger on the trigger smiling ear to ear as she “saw me.”
I calmly but firmly told her to look at the ceiling and she pointed the rifle upward. Had she grown up with a gun in the house she would not have almost killed Volvo before he ever owned a Volvo.
22 multi shot – Just googled “gasser-canardly air gun”. I wonder if that’s what BB had in mind?!?!?
-Aaron
B.B.
Ingenious in a Rube Goldberg sort of way.
Wayne, so you’re the one buying up all the ammo. Seriously, how unfortunate. Enthusiasm like yours is a terrible thing to waste. Why don’t you just never, ever leave the keys in the gun safe. Or try to make a last stand around your most prized gun or guns. With your arsenal, a reduction to one or two would be very impressive and might sway your wife. And describe for her the hit you’re going to take in selling such a lot of guns and ammo.
All, I’d say we’ve got B.B. hemmed in with the Marauder. He’ll have to give up the report very shortly.
Matt61
That’s it Wayne.
I have a number of police departments as clients (I sell them photo equipment…yup, some of those red light cameras come from me!!?)
One day I had my CP99 at work and I asked one of the officers what he would do if confronted by it…even in the hands of a young person.
As I expected his reply was ‘shoot ’em and let the courts decide if I was right or wrong’.
CowBoyStar Dad
Volvo,
Wow!!
Now that’s a story for us all to hear!!!
I think the compromise IS the air gun inventory and field target club.. that’s a lot!!
Matt61,
And the truth is, I should make a little to a lot on the gun sales on line, since this valley is so depressed the pawnshops get real good deals and pass them on, to compete against each other..
In the last two months, I’ve seen the shelves on the 10 or so arms/ammo dealers here in Southern Oregon go completely empty except for shotgun shells.. and a few 30-06 and they’ll be gone by this weekend I’d bet..
So.. I’d bet I’ll make money on the ammo too!!
CowBoy Star Dad,
“deadly” was the key word..
The manufactures desire to copy the real thing for play.. is a big mistake, even with “orange tips”..
WHEN I WAS A KID… a branch was our gun of choice until I was hired to hunt rabbits for my dad.. and got my hy-score 500fps .177
And kids now are no different.. my wife owned and ran a preschool for 25 years.. and kids will use anything handy as a gun, to copy what they see on TV or adults do..
Even just a fist with a pointed finger works just fine for a game the preschoolers would come up with totally on their own.. to her dismay.. almost always the boys.. but sometimes the girls would join in the fun!!
She finally gave up and called it genetics.. making some safety rules..
So my point is we don’t need air guns or toy guns to look realist to sell them.. or use them… so why make that police man have to shoot a kid with a toy, in order to be sure he is saving his own life?
Wayne
B.B. – You’re just as much of a wag as Dr. Beeman with his airgun-cleaning bacteria tale!
Aaron,
Don’t think it intentionally had anything to do with BB’s topic, but it is a gas! LOL
BB,I think you are on to something here!for the last hour I have been shooting My condor assisted by my electrolux…it sounds like it’s hitting much harder now!accuracy is about the same,with all the shots hitting the same spot on the chrony inside the vacuum bag.I don’t think the chrony is getting enough light,so I’ve sucked up my Surefire 6P….I’ll keep you posted!What kind of beer is best? LOL FrankB
Frank,
When I was a gardener with a slug problem, we used saucers of beer to kill the slugs. The best beer to use is the kind you absolutely would not drink. No loss that way.
B.B.
As soon as I saw the name “Kanardly” I knew what to expect. In my younger days we used to talk about the very affordable luxury automobile from Rolls-Royce called the Rolls Kanardly. It rolls down hill just fine but it kanardly get back up again. Har!
RE:”The best beer to use is the kind you absolutely would not drink.”
BB – I’ve yet to encounter such a beer!!
-Aaron
OT…if you recall I mentioned a week or so ago about a friend of mine who came into possession of a Slavia Liberty (618/19).
Well the same source has given him 2 tins (500 ea) of Gamo Lead Rounds.
He’s wondering if there is any harm in using them in the Slavia. I would think not, except for the loss in accuracy. He tried one and it was what I’d call a ‘loose-snug’ fit…it wasn’t tight, but it didn’t roll down the barrel and it seemed to him my pellet trap with some authority.
Thanks,
CowBoyStar Dad
CowboyStar Dad,
I shot round lead balls in my Slavia 631 with no harm. And don’t be surprised if they aren’t quite accurate at ranges out to 20 yards.
B.B.
B.B.
Is this a APRIL FOOL’S joke? Because if it is, I got this true story about this guy in Saskatoon, Iowa who invented a gravity gun. It is supposed to be very economical to shoot and drop dead accurate, but the government stole his patent.
B.B.
Great story with terrific in depth reporting.
Wayne,
As usual it sounds like you have things in hand and don’t require any assistance. I thought my tale of near disaster could be used to your advantage. While it is possible to use it for either side of the argument: no gun no accident, or proper training no accident, I think the second is more convincing.
Her parents felt by never having a firearm in their home she would be safe, not realizing she may someday encounter one on her own. In my own feeble defense, the reason I had uncased the rifle when I knew I could not clean and store it was I was told that the soft cases were toxic to the metal on a firearm. Not sure if this is true or a just a tall tale.
Yeah, I guess an air rifle range and a massive collection is enough. : )
If it is ok with BB can you post a link to just one of your firearms on GB?
Volvo
Yawn….
ahhh morning all..
I just had the worst dream of my life.. my wife had told me I had to choose between my firearms and our marriage!! It was a true nightmare!!
all because I kept leaving the keys in the gun cabinets…
Me thinks me better hide the keys every time.. day and night..
gotcha… or at least a few of ya all.. and brought out some good safety lessons.. thanks Volvo!!
Wayne
Good to hear, Wayne… I was afraid that first, the cartridge guns – then the AIR GUNS – and there goes my ‘sugar daddy’.
Oh, BTW – your comments about the latest batch of guns I work on for you – was THAT also an April Fool’s joke?
Vince,
You know it’s not!!!
and I mean it.. your work is top quality, as always!!
thanks again..
I kept trying to lead you guys to Gunbroker to see that nothing was listed..
lucky it was a dream..
Wacky Wayne..
I write this as I unpack another $400 box of various ammo purchased online.. 20 boxes Russian .223 for $11.00/20 not good, but not bad in these times.. and 5- .38 special $19/50 (I have to shoot my sidearms!!) (got a Dan Wesson 8″ barrel .357 mag CTG last week to go with the .357 mag Irv Johnson colt reproduction.) one for each hip right?… but does the 6″ barrel go on the left or right side?
And a couple 500 rd boxes of Aguila’s .22lr 40gr target loads “very accurate” it says on the invoice and order form.. If things don’t change on the ammo shelves, the .22lr is all I’ll be shooting.. I’ll sit on my other ammo inventory.. well most of it…
So it must have been a dream!!
Just in case I better get this box unpacked and put away before Chris gets back..
Wayne
LOL, rolling on floor! You got me Wayne! Of course I wouldn’t look at gunbrokers, I don’t buy any firearms.
You’ll have to take a look at this. Its amazing! The BBC has managed to capture on video a rare species of flying penguin on video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4
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ahh hahaha I love this “bar” place!
Wayne the 6 in. barrel goes on your off side (not your backside:)for smoother draw.
Dang I didn’t catch the “kanardly”
Ref,(must be younger”dumber”than some others here:)and BB had me goin most of the way thru.
JTinAL
Wayne,
Nice one.
Do you know that over 3200 firearms were listed on gunbroker in the last 24 hours?
Here I was trying to cover your back – even though I was thinking you were whipped.
I felt silly until I saw the price you Pd for .38’s.
Shoot some for me.
Volvo
Jason,
In case you end up here, I agree with Vince.
I have the Daisy 953 and I would recommend it over the IZH-61 because it (the 953) is a nice smooth shooting single pump pneumatic rifle that doesn’t require a finicky hold. And it is reasonably quiet also plus reasonably accurate and reasonably priced.
The IZH-61 (which I do like, also) is a spring piston rifle and a little finicky on how you hold it. However, it is accurate also and quiet and easy to cock. If you can afford both get them because you’ll learn how to shoot using two different techniques. If you can’t afford both, start with the 953.
-Chuck
Volvo,
Yes, those are the only items I buy..(.22, .22 mag, .223, .243, .270, 30-30, 32-40, .38 special/.357 mag.& 38-55) that did not say: "SOLD OUT – NO BACKORDERS TAKEN"..
It appears that the ammo suppliers didn't plan for the shortage they helped create with the hype about the new politics..
I bet nothing changes.. except the prices will never be as low as they were!!
And the scary part is that I saw a lot of "nubies" (without a quarry of wise sages to lead them, LIKE I HAVE) out there buying guns and ammo.. along with the other 90% educated safe folks stocking up… It seems more potential for accidents..
Maybe the 90% can reach out, (like you folks have to this nubie), to that 10% who bought without any knowledge of what they are doing.. I've seen a few at the range too.. The good thing is the safety people are on them real quick and there gone.. but where to, they still have the guns..
Anyway…
I know Kevin and B.B. are saying: "I told you to get into reloading!".. now reloading equipment and supplies are just as gone..
The masters were right again!!.. but I'll still get the stuff somehow pretty soon.. then I won't feel bad about shooting the ammo inventory.. because I can reload it, to shoot even better!
Well stocked in Ashland
Wayne
OFF TOPIC again
for those still interested in the quigley style shooting of AG’s.
yrrah over on the yellow has a nice right up of up to 90 yd. shots on silhouettes with a FWB 300s.
He uses a scope but still interesting.
JTinAL
here’s the post for above sorry it’s looonnng.
/www.network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1238552640/Long+range+with+FWB+300+S+10+m+
+rifle+and+silhouette+targets-+
+A+number+of+pics.
JTinAL
RE: Ammo shortage
This is no April’s Fool joke. Do you remember the toilet paper shortage that Jonny Carson created? He started talking about it in a monologue. Over the next few days as the shelves got barer, people bought even more toilet paper wondering if the shortage was real. Now with the shelves noticeable low, panic buying set in. The real result was only that the normal buying cycle was disrupted. But he really did create a TP shortage by making a joke of it.
Your perception is your reality.
Herb
Buy the Way..
Chris and I are going to the coast this weekend to celebrate our 38th year of marriage!!
So you won’t have Wacky Wayne to kick around this weekend…
Should I bring just a couple 500fps springers and the silent trap?…
I was just kidding honey… (if you ever read this).. the thought never crossed my mind… really ..
Wacky Wayne in Love
With my Honey and my guns.. in that order!!
Wayne,
Have a wonderful anniversary,
and a 100 more after this one!
cheers,
George
Everyone,
Yes, this report is an April Fools joke.
To the guy who mentioned the gravity gun in Saskatoon–I wrote about one in Barrow back in the early 1990s. You stood on top of a tower and dropped bowling balls down towards field targets at the bottom of the tower. That was also a joke.
B.B.
George,
Thank you!! That would be something..
I’d settle for 40 or 50!!
Wayne
First i want to say that i am new to this hobby.. but not new to shooting competition. I have many trophies shooting big bore firearms rifles and pistols and long distance ( Camp Perry and came in 3rd 2 times ).
Anyway just wanted to add to the blog that i purchased several air pistols and air rifles and a multitude of ammo to see what is the best for down range accuracy and and distance. so far i am have a great time with this hobby as i did with the big bore weapons and my life time hobby as a Ham Radio operator, thanks for reading my
2 cents
Nrl
Nick,
Welcome!
Came in 3rd two times shooting at Camp Perry. Very impressive. You know your way around guns.
Sharing your enthusiasm for the airgun sport is greatly encouraged here.
You’ve left your comment under an article that B.B. wrote on April 1st (April fools article!). Most airgunners, like you, are asking and answering each others questions and sharing stories under the most recent article that B.B. wrote. B.B. writes a new article every day, Monday-Friday, and at the bottom of the article when you click on “comments” you will join the most active blog. If you copy and paste this link it will always take you to the current article:
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Look forward to seeing you there!
kevin