UZI CO2 BB Submachine Gun from Cybergun: Part 1

by B.B. Pelletier


Cybergun brings us this Mini Uzi BB submachine gun.

Let’s take a look at the Mini UZI CO2 BB Submachine Gun from Cybergun. What we have here is a steel BB-shooting gun made and packaged by an airsoft manufacturer and sold by distributors. Everything (the gun, box, owner’s manual, etc.) is made in the style of airsoft guns, not airguns. I even found the gun itself called a “Softair” in the instructions, which look exactly like other airsoft manuals, so there isn’t much doubt where the gun comes from.

I was surprised when I was reviewing the other BB submachine guns that no one asked why I wasn’t testing this one as well. I guess it’s just flying under the radar at the moment.

The other BB submachine guns
Here are the BB submachine guns we have looked at thus far in this blog. First was the Russian-made IZH Drozd that we looked at here. I also did another report on it here. Then, I tested the EBOS from Umarex. The reports on that gun are here. And let’s not forget the H&K MP5 PDW gun. That one was covered here. And, of course, we also looked at the Umarex Steel Storm. That report can be found here.

We’ve looked at four BB submachine guns to this point. This Mini Uzi is number five. The gun is really a pistol-sized gun, as most submachine guns are. Though small, at just 14 inches overall, the gun weighs 4.85 lbs., which makes it a real chunk. What isn’t as clear from the description online is the presence of the folding wire stock that increases the length to 23-1/2 inches and gives you a more-than-generous pull of 15-7/8 inches. While I’ve never fired an Uzi, I have shot enough 9mm HK MP5s to know that you don’t shoot them from the hip if you expect to hit anything. These modern submachine guns all have good sights and are meant to hit targets out beyond 25 yards, so the rifle stock comes in quite handy.


The wire stock extended. The bottom of the hinge pin has a hole to use as a rear sling swivel anchor.

This gun comes to you in semiautomatic, only. There’s a three-position selector switch on the left side, but the A for automatic is a non-functioning setting. You cannot slide the selector switch over to the A. You just have R for semi-auto and S for safe. However, there’s a way to make the gun full-auto.


As the gun comes from the box you cannot access the full-auto mode (the letter A) with the selector switch.

Full-auto mode!
Yes, with a small modification, it’s possible to make this gun full auto. It does require some disassembly and any parts modification that you would do (and you must modify the gun for it to be full-auto capable) voids your warranty. Since I’m going to return this gun to Pyramyd Air, I won’t be modifying it. If you’re interested, you can find out how to modify the gun online, but bear in mind that the warranty will be voided.

The gun is powered by one 12-gram CO2 cartridge that fits in the bottom of the stick magazine. The magazine also holds 25 BBs under spring pressure, and I’ll report to you about the feeding reliability when I write the velocity test.

Some unusual features
Now for some things you don’t see on other BB guns. The first is a grip safety that blocks the trigger until squeezed by holding the grip. These safeties make guns safe in situations…like when they fall to the ground, which tactical guns will do from time to time. They also make it harder for bad guys to shoot you with your own gun while you’re holding it.

The other strange feature is going to make me look like a fool, but I really haven’t figured it out yet. There’s a heavy steel collar around the barrel that has a ratcheting mechanism with a positive lock. Inside the mechanism, there’s a coiled spring. But what it does is anyone’s guess. It might be threads for a silencer. If so, why all the extra parts and complexity? The barrel shroud moves when this collar is loose and not when it’s tight. The manual doesn’t address it, so I guess I’l just have to figure it out as we go.

The folding stock has no positive lock for either position. There’s just a spring-loaded detent that holds it wherever it is. It presents no problem as a BB gun stock, of course, but many owners may want a locking stock like the firearm.

Owners love it
I read the reviews of this gun on the Pyramyd Air site, and the thing people like the most is the realistic blowback recoil simulation. The bolt is heavy, and apparently the gun feels delightfully realistic when fired.

A second thing most owners commented on was the accuracy of the gun. With the four reviews listed of the other BB submachine guns above, the Mini Uzi will be up against some stiff competition, but a look at this gun’s sights tells me that, whoever made it, they were thinking about hitting the target.

The one drawback seems to be an excessive use of gas, however, it isn’t as bad as it sounds. One owner said he thought he was getting about two magazines worth of shots per cartridge. That would be 50 shots. With the blowback feature that also uses some gas, that’s about right. It’s just that this gun makes you want to shoot-’em-up so much that you’re blowing through the gas that fast.

Sights
The sights are an aperture rear and post front, and they’re both adjustable. The front sight adjusts for elevation and the rear for windage. The front sight uses the same positive spring-loaded pin lock found on an M-16. I hate adjusting this type of front sight system because it’s so cumbersome; but once it’s dialed-in, it never changes. There ‘s a tool in the box for this, so you don’t need to carry a 5.56mm cartridge in your pocket — but it’s still difficult to adjust.


Anyone with M-16 experience will recognize how this sight is adjusted. Press down on the spring-loaded pin and turn the sight base in the correct direction. A special tool is provided with the gun for this. Note the front sling swivel stud on the left of the sight ear.

The rear sight is an L-shaped leaf with two different apertures, one large for rapid target acquisition and the other smaller for precision. A screw on the left side of the assembly moves the leaf from side to side, and of course you adjust it in the direction you want the pellet to go. The aperture rear sight is a no-brainer sight, which is why most of the world’s military uses them. Just look through the rear hole and position the front post where you want to BB to go — it’s that simple.


I like the sights on this gun a lot. They show the same kind of innovation that would be found on the sights of an M1 Carbine, with an even greater range of adjustability.

Finally, the gun comes with sling swivel studs front and rear (the bottom of the stock hinge pin has a hole, and there’s another anchor on the left side of the frame at the front sight). This comes from the firearm, of course, and from the airsoft heritage. As heavy as the gun is, a tactical sling would be a nice touch.

Overall observations
The advertised velocity (344 f.p.s.) is fast, but not blistering. I like that because, frankly, when steel BBs get up around 500 f.p.s., they get hard to manage downrange. Since you can’t hunt with BBs anyway, this velocity is right where it needs to be and the blowback feature doesn’t have to use up that many shots.

This is a heavy gun that feels substantial. Yes, there’s plastic here and there, but most guns made today have some somewhere. The customer comments are quite reassuring, making me want to rush into this test faster than usual.

67 thoughts on “UZI CO2 BB Submachine Gun from Cybergun: Part 1

  1. Kevin..

    R7 with 4 new kinds of pellets. Accuracy testing will be later. I shot the Falcons first by the way.

    AA 4.51
    MV Av 607.28
    ES 19.37
    SD 5.47

    AA 4.52
    MV Av 612.11
    ES 7.98
    SD 3.0

    Exact RS
    MV Av 666.74
    ES 7.80
    SD 2.82

    AA Falcon
    MV Av 664.91
    ES 4.56
    SD 1.73

    twotalon



      • Slinging Lead,

        No, they’re not the same. The Air Arms Falcon pellets are very similar, but more consistent in weight, to the JSB Exact RS pellets though.

        kevin


      • Don’t know. I have part of a blue tin laying around, but it’s pretty old. Dies have probably been changed long ago.
        The Falcons dropped into the R7 without any pressure. Care had to be taken to keep them from flipping back out.
        I tried the blue Exacts once for fit and they were also loose.
        The other AA pellets were a bit loose with some requiring slight force to seat, while others dropped in.
        The Exact RS all required just a bit of pressure to seat without any worry of flipping or falling out when closing the breech. This is the kind of fit that I like, but will have to see what the rifle says on paper.

        twotalon


    • twotalon,

      Seems from the chrony work that your R7 prefers 4.52 head sizes. Nice tight spreads with the falcons and the RS pellets. Interested to hear about accuracy.

      Thanks again for your input on lasers.

      kevin


    • i barely got my gun and it shot fine at first but then i twisted the barell? or the front part u can twist and now it wont shoot cus it doesnt recoil back


      • Nelson,

        Why did you twist the barrel? What were you trying to do?

        We may be able to help you here, but if not, the gun may need to be sent back to the dealer for repairs, or warranty return issues.

        B.B.


  2. I’d like to thank everyone that offered advice on lasers. Really appreciated. A special thanks to Mr. B. (Bruce) and Frank B. for offering to loan me a laser to help me decide. What a great group of folks here.

    I ordered the utg green laser yesterday from PA and will let you know about my experiences when it arrives.

    kevin


  3. Interesting looking gun, but what is that odd knob doing smack on top of the receiver just above the trigger? Surely, it must interfere with the sight-line between the front and rear sights.


    • Bobby,

      That odd knob is the cocking knob. I should have photographed it and mentioned it, because it is an actual Uzi firearm part. I’ll put it in Part 2 and show you what I mean.

      Then center is open and the knob doesn’t get in the way.

      B.B.


  4. BB; You mentioned “Hip Shooting” with sub guns not being very accurate. Very true. However, next time try this method. It is call the “Underarm Assault Position.” Tuck the stock under your arm, all the way up to your arm pit. Have your master eye over the center line of the bore. This controls recoil and with a little practice your hand eye coordination will place shots of target at closer ranges.
    The technique works well with a laser too. It works with any semi-auto too. Try it with a Hi Cap Mag in your Ruger 10/22. Lots of fun!

    Mike


    • Mike, interesting and this sounds very plausible based on the principles of snap shooting. I also had a look at a video of someone testing a 5.45mm version of an Arsenal AK. He held it arm extended like a pistol and fired full auto with almost no discernible movement of the muzzle–amazing for this higher-powered cartridge. Also with a straight face, he explained differences in tactics for fighting zombies versus humans. With the zombies, you could hose them down while for human assailants, he advised dropping to a knee and changing position rapidly to avoid return fire. This confirms my suspicion that there are some very weird people out there.

      Matt61



  5. Twotalon,
    My r7 groups exact rs second best, closely following cpl’s. I prefer loading the exacts, and the powerplant seems smoothest with them, so they get used for all shooting. speaking of the powerplant,
    I had the action out to dry things after getting caught in the rain, and wow that mainspring is really over lubed. If your looks as bad, and you teardown to correct, please let us know how it shoots afterward!
    Hm


    • My R7 shoots the cpl and cplhp pretty well, but load a little tighter than I like. I will see how the RS work oyt.
      The R9 likes the fit of all three AA pellets I tried. The 97K should like them too for fit. Both tend to like 4.50 – 4.51.

      Not going to worry about excess lube. It’s not enough that bothers me.

      twotalon



        • Been using Kodiaks. (.22) It’s running on a Condor tank right now. Preds also work good .
          I did shoot a lot of 16 gr Exacts and Kodiaks through it when I was using the standard tank.
          The TSS .177 with standard tank likes the cph.

          twotalon


  6. I believe the Umarex Steel Storm triumphed in the previous trials, at least for me, and Paul Capello’s video is very nice. So, we will see how the Uzi measures up. I’m curious why the real life Uzi is surpassed by the HK MP5. The Uzi seemed like the standard for awhile. Was it accuracy? I’ve heard that the MP5, firing from a closed bolt is extremely accurate.

    Chuck, done. :-)

    FrankB., you’ve found the first legitimate use I’ve heard of for the ND3 and 5 lasers (aside from playing which is perfectly legitimate as far as I’m concerned). I like your economical low tech approach with the line and cans. I’m reminded of this woman from Zimbabwe I met on a cruise. She was concerned about security for her country house and told me how she was trying to grow dense thorn bushes on the perimeter. So, once I returned, I very diligently mailed off directions for her on how to string double-apron barbed wire like what was so effective in the Pacific War–not the most romantic move I suppose but she was too far away anyway. With the looters, it would also be interesting to have an old Enfield No.4 ride again with a suppressive Mad Minute at the perimeter although that would certainly attract the attention of the police….

    Mike, that Mosin sniper rifle has been looming huge and beautiful I must say, but I got a considerable check last night reading a story about how one guy’s surplus Mosin blew up on him. The photo showed a huge crack in the receiver. That really is not what I need. As a partial comfort though, another article by the same guy showed an HS precision rifle that had blown up in the same fashion. Apparently the Mosin failure was a freak accident. The gun was super-reliable and the hex receiver that I’m looking at was supposed to be high quality. So, I’m rebuilding my confidence, but I won’t be able to buy the rifle for awhile anyway.

    Any favorite movie shooting scenes that anyone cares to share? I was thinking about this and my favorites are a scene from Robocop where the Robocop kicks in the door of a warehouse containing a sort of gangster’s convention and announces, “You’re all under arrest.” After an incredulous moment of silence, there is loud laughter, cursing, and a racking of submachine guns and shotguns from the hundreds of thugs. Then, the camera switches to the Robocop’s field of view which is a video input that is blossoming with crosshairs on all of them. He he.

    Tied for first is one of the battle scenes in The Thin Red Line. I read one critique of this movie that said: “What if we had attacked the Japanese on Guadalcanal with bad poets.” I see their point. However, this doesn’t account for one scene where the Americans are firing Garand rifles with a symphony of pings. It’s kind of your ultimate Garand scene.

    In worst place for the moment is a scene I came across on YouTube. William DaFoe in a particularly obnoxious and weird mode narrates a surrealistic scene where three criminals exit the front door of a suburban house to find an assassin waiting for them. He is a silver bearded older gent wearing a trench coat, shades, and smoking a cigar. He does look quite sinister, I have to admit. Then, he opens his coat to reveal six handguns holstered on his chest. The criminals curse and scatter as the guy opens fire. They shoot back. He empties his guns, dropping each pair as they go empty and grabbing new ones. William DaFoe circles drunkenly around the whole time. And the outcome after hundreds of rounds at pointblank range is that the assassin gets away and no one is hurt.

    Matt61



      • Matt

        As far as BB sub-machine guns are concerned, I think it was the EBOS that reigned supreme. Accuracy was stunning for a BB shooter. Does anyone out there have any experience with this gun? I was wondering if an AS to PB adapter would fit. Obviously the rear stock shell wouldn’t fit over it, I was thinking a 20 oz tank would work as a stock, much like the Airforce rifles.

        On another subject, I hope you didn’t have any airport snags during your last trip.


    • Matt,

      I have zero experience with the Uzi, but after shooting an HK MP5 several times I can understand why it is so well accepted by law enforcement and the military. It’s accurate, well-built and controllable, three things that cannot be said about many SMGs.

      B.B.


      • Here is a bit of trivia. BMW sold a factory MP5 mount that was positioned in the middle of the rear seat. It was on their website for awhile. Last time I was there I couldn’t find it though. Dang, just when I get enough money saved up.


      • I have used the Uzi. The accuracy is so so and it’s heavy in the standard version. The trigger is a bit heavy too. It is compact and the first of the so called “Third Generation” Sub guns. The MP5 is a “Fourth Generation” and much better overall. I didn’t really care for the Uzi. I would much rather have a CAR-15. It is lighter and shoots a rifle round.

        Mike


        • The changes needed to go from open-bolt selective fire to closed-bolt semi-auto no doubt affected the trigger mechanism… and the required long barrel to take it out of the “concealed weapon” category added to the weight.

          So… a heavy unit with a short sighting radius… And as I recall, the sights are mounted on the top plate which just latched in place; unlatch and pop off for field stripping. Probably not conducive to repeatable precision sight alignment.

          As I recall, it was also straight blow back operation…


    • Matt,

      My best shooting scene is I believe that one from “The Crow”, when Eric Draven receives tons of lead, Top Dollar constatates – “That had to hurt…” and then one thug comes to see the body. “He’s gone -” BLAM through his head and then the shootut follows. This movie is in my personal Top10 and I just love Wincott’s Top Dollar :)

      duskwight


    • Oh,there are plenty of uses for the ND3 & 5 Matt.My favorite is convincing the “slower” neighbors
      that UFOs are here in the Rocket City! They work great for pointing out constellations too.The ND3
      really does work well as a light source when you open the beam just a little with it mounted on a scope.With my love of high tech gadjets……I’m not allowed in Sharper Image stores without an escort! You’re right,they have limited practical use compaired to their price.I was LMAO as I swept the darkness,knowing the looters were scratching their heads though!


    • Now,don’t be ripping on my favorite movie scenes Matt.That one was from Boondock saints,which was followed by All Saints Day.Out of context,the scene seems hoky,but you’ve got to watch the movie.I dare say you would enjoy it.My favorite vigilantie movie in the last 10 years,easy.And someone does get hurt…..Rollo looses his finger.It is a beautifully filmed movie,full of humor.Did I mention I liked it??


      • Frank

        Oh, were talking vigilante movies are we? It doesn’t get much better than Viggo Mortensen in “A History of Violence” Ever seen it? I love vigilante/revenge movies.


        • I’ll check it out,I have yet to see it.A friend in the movie buisness made me watch Boondock Saints.
          I watched the sequel because I just had to.


    • Matt61,
      I always liked the shoot out in” Harley Davidson and the Marlborough Man” where one is telling the other how much it cost every-time he shoots and misses the bad guys.


  7. B.B., a quote from you in this blog: “While I’ve never fired an Uzi, I have shot enough 9mm HK MP5s to know that you don’t shoot them from the hip if you expect to hit anything. ”

    I am a little disappointed in you. I could swear I’ve seen Angelina Jolie shoot TWO of these from the hip and take out a plethora of bad guys while hardly breaking a [sultry] sweat. I guess she has better hips than you do. I hope you don’t feel to bad about that.

    At 5 pounds, this must have as much metal, or more, than plastic. The close-ups make the detailing look very nice, and you said the sights actually look usable. Full auto sounds interesting.

    Lloyd


    • lloyd,

      Interesting conjecture. I shall have to watch many Angelina Jolie movies to assess her hips, so I can fully appreciate what you are saying.

      B.B.


  8. I’m posting this for someone who sent it to the wrong address:

    I have a Feinwerkbau 124 sport that’s been in the closet it seems like forever. I need to have it worked on … new piston seal… spring .. probably updated trigger … but have been unable to locate anyone in the Los Angeles area. Can you please recommend where to get my rifle gone through and tuned appropriately.


    • 124 owner,

      If the repair shop has to be in the LA area, what about Tim McMurray, at Mac-1 Airguns? They’re in Gardena, which is as close as you’re going to get.

      However, Pyramyd Air, the company that owns this blog, also rebuilds 124 powerplants. It’s rare to be able to take your rifle in to the repair station. Most of us have to ship them, because there are so few repair stations in the U.S.

      B.B.


  9. I really appreciate your response. this site is pretty cool and I have enjoyed the variety of interesting topics.


    • Mike,welcome! You have one of the best springers a guy could have found in a closet.Take that from a guy that has “a few”.Please give us some feedback when you get her fixed up.I would love to hear what you think.What range is the serial number,if you don’t mind me asking?


      • Jim Maccari is giving away a custom stock for an FWB 124 this month I’ve got three chances for it. I think today or tomorow is last chance to enter.
        Loren


  10. They should have made the Uzi BB with select fire from the factory. They would sell a lot more of them if they did. I think this is a pretty basic error but that’s just me.

    Mike


  11. This one is way out of my usual selection, but I have to admit it looks like it could be a hoot with the full-auto mod.


    • BG_Farmer,

      One good reason the full-auto feature is disabled is it will freeze the gun if you use it. Your velocity will take a nosedive before the action refuses to work. CO2 guns are not meant to go full-auto, which is why all the guns that have that feature only offer it is the burst mode.

      B.B.


  12. i dont know how you got 300 shots for the ebos. i just got one and im doin about 200 in 1 shot. im in fl and the temp is about 85. why butter things up for them? your review is the reason i decided to get it in the first place and now im let down. i know you get a paycheck from them but why lure consumers to believe stuff that is not true??


    • Tom,

      Well, I’m stumped. I searched all three reports on the EBOS and don’t see where I ever said that it gets 300 shots per cartridge. The maker might say that, but even the description on this website says “lots of shots”, not a specific number.

      Could you please tell me where I said the EBOS gets 300 shots per CO2 cylinder?

      B.B.


    • Tom,

      I just looked at the EBOS product page on Pyramyd Air’s website and looked at the owner’s manual. Neither one says you get 300 shots per cartridge.

      Here are the instances where the number 300 shows up in the 3-part blog about the EBOS:

      “It can be set for 300, 400 or 500 rounds per minute (RPM).”

      “300 RPM is too much like shooting an M3 grease gun”

      “I first tried 300 RPM rate of fire and a 4-round burst”

      “three rates of automatic fire during the two bursts — 300, 400 and 500 rounds per minute”

      Edith



      • Tom and Edith,

        That’s what I thought, as well. Round per minute (RPM) is a standard and common submachine gun term that I thought I was safe using as an acronym. I even spelled it out the first use, as the stylebook requires. I could not see how anyone would confuse that with the number of shots in a CO2 cartridge.

        Tom, I don’t lie about the performance of anything i test. Several times I have had to end a test because the item failed while I was testing it.

        If you wondered about the total number of shots you’d get from a CO2 cartridge, why didn’t you ask, beforehand? I would probably have told you that at the high velocity the EBOS gets, it will get fewer shots per cartridge than guns that shoot slower.

        B.B.


    • tom,
      Here’s where I think you might have gotten the 300, from this review on PA’s web site for the EBOS. Read the part about “What others should know:”

      Begin Quote

      By Nicholas from USA on 2011-04-26 00:45:51 – See all my reviews Add comment to this review

      Things I liked:fun to shoot and more powerfull than i thought.pretty accurate single shot is the accurate choice, but what fun is that?

      Things I would have changed:the hopper is in a bad place, how can you put accessorys on the rail?
      What others should know:EATS batterys! invest in rechargeables,the tests on here about … Read More

      Things I liked:fun to shoot and more powerfull than i thought.pretty accurate single shot is the accurate choice, but what fun is that?

      Things I would have changed:the hopper is in a bad place, how can you put accessorys on the rail?

      What others should know:EATS batterys! invest in rechargeables,the tests on here about it are corrct,about 300 shots per co2.

      End Quote

      -Chuck


      • Chuck–Thanks for finding that.

        Tom–Well, it looks like someone DID get that…or at least that’s what they claim.

        Edith


        • tom and Edith,
          There were two other reviews there also.

          One said, “I got about 450 shots with my first CO2 cartridge which I thougth was very good.”

          And one said, “Then ran off 200 rounds within another 10 minutes. That’s all the 88 grams are good for but you should have seen the smile on my face.”

          The moral of this story is, check with Tom Gaylord before spending a lot of money.

          -Chuck


    • B.B.,

      I think that I may have solved the mystery. Your review doesn’t mention 300 rounds per CO2 cartridge, that’s true. But Paul Capello reported that very number in his video review of the rifle (at 7:50 in the review). It would be pretty easy to assume Paul was the B.B. who writes this blog.

      tom,

      I hate that you are disappointed with the gun in question b/c it looks like it would be tons of fun even if you only get 200 rounds per cartridge.

      Bobby


      • Bobby,

        THANK YOU!

        I betcha that’s exactly what happened. I just hope Tom reads all this so he knows how concerned we all are.

        B.B.


        • Hello B.B. I just bought a Uzi co2 BB gun from Pyramyd and would like to know if there is a kit for full-auto or do I have to do it myself? If it is a do it yourself job can you tell me were to find the plans or information to do it myself? Any help is greatly appreciated. Your 3 part review on this uzi was very informative. Thank you Mario


          • Mario,

            As far as I know there is no kit. But when I researched the model everyone as talking about the full-auto mod, so you should be able to find it easily enough.

            Good luck!

            B.B.



    • Tom,

      Yes, you can leave a comment on Paul Capello’s video. The video is also on Pyramyd Air’s YouTube channel. Click here to go to that specific video & enter your comments.

      Edith


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