by B.B. Pelletier
AirForce Talon SS is a whole shooting system.
I’ve been meaning to write this report for a long time, and when we recently had a heated discussion about the rifle, I knew the time had come. This will probably be a longer report, because the AirForce Talon SS isn’t just one air rifle — it’s a whole shooting system!
The Talon SS was the very first air rifle to intentionally use a shrouded barrel to quiet the muzzle report. Ten-meter target rifles had been doing it unintentionally for years; but when John McCaslin, the owner of AirForce and designer of the rifle, put the SS together, he intentionally used the shroud technology for that purpose. Today, it’s hard to find an air rifle that isn’t shrouded, so it’s difficult to keep in mind that the whole movement to shroud began as recently as one decade ago.
The Talon SS is a single-shot precharged pneumatic rifle with a shrouded 12-inch Lothar Walther barrel. The frame extends several inches beyond the end of the barrel, and a special end cap strips off much of the energized compressed air that leaves the muzzle. The report of the gun is muffled, though it’s not as quiet as some silenced guns. I always tell people that a shot on high power sounds like hands clapping once.
The rifle is sold in all four smallbore calibers — .177, .20, .22 and .25. Because the barrel can be changed by the owner in about five minutes, each rifle is capable of being any caliber and also any of three barrel lengths — 12 inches, 18 inches or 24 inches. This is the only air rifle with that kind of flexibility. But only the 12-inch barrel has the benefit of a shroud.
Adjustable power
On the left side of the frame, a power adjustment wheel allows the shooter to adjust the rifle’s power across a broad spectrum. I will test my factory-stock SS for you to demonstrate the range, so we’ll look at that in the velocity test. But the power adjustment is somewhat confusing to new owners.
As the knurled wheel turns, the screw head moves inside the oval slot to the right, indicating the gross power setting.
The knurled wheel has numbers that align with a white index line on the right side. The Allen screw head in the slotted window to the right of the power wheel moves along a scale of numbers. These numbers are put there so the owner can return to certain settings. They do not indicate the same power level from rifle to rifle, because each rifle is different. But new owners often think that if someone else’s SS is doing well at a setting of 8.13 (the Allen screw on the number 8 and the power wheel indexed at the number 13), their rifle should do the same. It doesn’t work that way, because this isn’t a measuring device — it’s a memory marker for each separate gun. While the guns all perform similarly, each is also unique; and the power adjuster has to be set for just that gun.
Trigger
The trigger is two-stage and not adjustable. It typically breaks at between 2.5 and 3.5 lbs. in a new gun, and it usually has a little bit of creep in the second stage. This is another place where people get confused. The trigger in an AirForce rifle is a fairly complex set of parts that each affects the others. Some parts are case-hardened to a specific depth, so no polishing or stoning is recommended. All parts that move are coated with a dry-film molybdenum disulphide compound that bonds with the metal; and over time the trigger becomes both lighter and smoother in operation — not unlike the triggers in BSF spring rifles.
Leave the trigger alone and after a few thousand shots it will be perfectly crisp and light. But try to work on it, and you can ruin the gun in minutes — plus void the warranty. It was my experience with the AirForce triggers that cautioned me to leave the National Match trigger in my AR-15 alone. I know it will break in to be exactly what the spec states.
Along with the trigger comes an automatic safety. It sits in front of the trigger and is pushed forward to release. It’s a formed stiff wire that is often too stiff to push off with the trigger finger when the gun is new, but like the rest of the trigger, it breaks in and can be easily pushed off with the back of the trigger finger once the gun has broken in. At the LASSO shoot a couple weeks ago, Greg, the new shooter from Austin, Texas, borrowed a new Condor from the AirForce booth, and I noticed that the safety was as light and smooth as mine, so some safeties may be lighter from the start.
The trigger has an adjustable finger pad. Slide it low for the lightest trigger-pull. The red knob in front is the rifle’s automatic safety that is pushed forward to release.
Style and construction
AirForce rifles are all styled with a black rifle look. They are based on an aluminum frame that houses the action and barrel. Only the air reservoir, which also serves as the butt, is separate. There are two frame sizes. The AirForce Talon has a short frame, and both the SS and Condor have a long frame. The Condor has a longer carry handle than the SS, but otherwise the two frames are identical. Because of that, the SS can easily accept the optional 24-inch barrel, which effectively doubles the gun’s power with the same amount of air. I will explain more about that in a future report, but it’s one advantage you get from a shooting system, rather than a single rifle whose caliber and barrel length cannot be changed.
The frame has long 11mm dovetails along its upper and lower surfaces, as well as the top of the carry handle. As a result, the rifle can accept all manner of accessories like lasers, scopes, night vision, tactical flashlights, sling swivels, bipods and much more. It’s like a Christmas tree that’s ready to accept any and all ornaments you desire.
The construction of the rifle lends itself to manufacture by a CNC center rather than more costly human labor. As a result, AirForce is able to keep up with the thousands of orders they fill each year. They still have a workforce, of course, but they do the jobs for which machines are not adapted and those jobs requiring skills.
The finish has been a black anodizing since the beginning, but a couple years ago AirForce started offering guns in other colors — red and blue. They’re keeping their options open for other colors, though at present black still seems to be most in demand.
Plastic parts
There are parts of the gun that are not made of metal. The trigger shoe, bolt, power adjuster wheel and a few other parts are made from modern synthetics. The material for each part was chosen for its performance and not for manufacturing economy. As the airgun world learned from the Logun S16, an all-steel air rifle can also be a boat anchor when the weight gets to be too much. That isn’t a problem with the Talon SS, which weighs just 5.25 lbs.
Highly convenient
The light weight is coupled with a cocking effort of just 4 lbs., making the SS a breeze to carry and shoot. Because the weight is low, a larger, heavier scope does not weigh down the rifle like it would many PCPs, so the SS can accept a scope that’s up to its long-range capabilities. I personally find a 4-16x scope to be about ideal for both the SS as it comes from the factory and also when I install the longer barrel and double the power. The AirForce 4-16×50 scope is a perfect match for both the SS and the Condor.
Calibers
I maintain that the .22 caliber is best for the Talon SS, given its power potential. In factory trim, you can expect it to develop 23-25 foot-pounds maximum with accurate pellets. That can be boosted to 40-45 foot-pounds when the 24-inch barrel is added. Of course, any of the four smallbore calibers will work well with the rifle, and the beauty is that you don’t have to choose. Start with one caliber and add the others as you feel so inclined. The rifle I’ll be testing for you in this report will be a .22 caliber.
How the rifle comes
One of the things a reader had confused when we talked about the Talon SS a few weeks back was that the rifle can be ordered with or without a fill clamp. He’d purchased a used gun and didn’t get to see it as it comes from the factory, so I’ll show that here.
The Talon SS comes in a cardboard box with fitted foam inserts holding the rifle and air tank, a DVD of the owner’s manual, a paper owner’s manual, AirForce catalog and warranty card. If it was ordered, the fill clamp also comes in the box. The section containing the rifle has been brightened to show the dark gun more clearly.
The rifle is sold with or without a fill clamp so people buying multiple rifles don’t have to continue to pay for parts they don’t need. Many owners of AirForce rifles own more than one gun. I own three, and I think blog reader twotalon’s handle speaks for itself. So, AirForce made it easier to buy the rifle in the configuration that you need, rather than paying for parts you already have.
I have a special fill adapter that’s much simpler than the AirForce fill clamp and works better with the carbon fiber tank I use to fill the gun. I’ll show it to you in a future report.
Summary
This is where I’ll end this report, though there are several more general topics to address. I’ll cover them as we encounter them during the extended test. I’ll even show you how easy it is to replace barrels when I switch from the 12-inch barrel to the 24-inch barrel. Please ask your questions as we go, and I’ll try to answer them in the body of the reports that follow.
B.B., I read some about your Talon SS in the “What would B.B. do” blog and I have been looking forward to this current write up. I have a good idea how to shoulder the rifle (I did get to fire the LAW a couple of times although it has been a while) and AirForce has kindly sent me a hard copy catalog with current pricing (reminds me of getting the Sear Christmas catalog when I was a bit younger). I think I’ll have a good idea about the rifle when you’ve completed this blog series (and I’ll continue to envy Greg having the opportunity to try one out at LASSO…I’m glad he did and I look forward to having a turn at it.)
Ken
I think this rifle is held in the conventional way, the LAW sits on top of the shoulder because the back part of it extends fairly far back. The LAW also has a backblast that makes it kinda dangerous from the back end, too.
Flobert, having not had an opportunity to shoot one I don’t know exactly how the airforce rifles might shoulder. I am taking my cure from B.B. about the LAW. Check out his earlier blog here:
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I doubt the experience is exact but from the picture I get an idea of what B.B. put in writing.
I’d like to know what you think, after you take a look.
Ken
Ken,
I remember that photo now. I think BB just came back from playing the perp on an episode of COPS, which is why he’s bare chested. 🙂
I have not tried this method since 99% of my shooting is from a bench. Now that I’m reminded, I’ll have to see if it works for me. It may not since BB is probably a half foot taller than me.
-Chuck
chuck, I’ll look forward to hearing about your experience with the AF rifles.
Ken
ken,
I tried BB’s way of holding the Talon SS and it does work as advertised. I have a Leapers 4-16×50 scope mounted in B-Square adjustable rings. They end up about medium-ring height. When I shoulder the rifle like BB does in the picture the eyepiece is right at eye level. Neat! I do need to re-adjust the eye relief though.
-Chuck
Wow! I guess I forgot seeing that. Yep, brings it right up to the eye.
I’ve been admiring this gun for a while, I like the “no nonsense” design. I’d really love having one. It costs about half what I thought they were.
flobert,
Don’t say that! You are supposed to scream, whine and cry about the price like everyone else!
Seriously, when the Talon came out in 2000, it was the least expensive PCP on the market.
B.B.
Well, I will admit that *I* sure can’t afford it, and if I had an extra $600-odd lying around it would be wiser (in my estimation) to put it into .22 ammo for the Apocalypse or a nice Ruger .357 to shoot baddies with.
But the low price for this gun for what is it and what it does blows me away. Maybe because my reference is 10-meter guns.
Flobert, thanks for getting back to me. I am grateful that the AirForce airguns don’t have that rearward thrust; but then, I don’t expect to shoot at any tanks either.
Ken
I got to shoot an old APC with the LAW, it was coooool.
I like the scene with the LAW in the movie “Falling Down”. Funny as heck!
flobert, I fired the LAW a couple of times in basic many years ago. An yes, there were some very interesting scenes in Falling Down.
No sooner than the doc released me to return to work I was hit with a nasty virus. I have eaten very little since last Thursday. I’m weakened but I am able to begin working, which is what I need now.
Ken
Ken,
You reminded me of how important the hold is for these rifles. I always tell new shooters about it, but forget to wrote about it.
It’s not exactly the same as holding a Light Antitank Weapon (LAW), but very similar. There is a pocket on top of your shoulder where the toe of the buttplate goes, and when you do that everything lines upo as it should. The photo in that old report is correct.
Once I showed that hold to Greg, he improvised and came up with a hold of his own that he liked better. So each shooter has to find what works for them.
B.B.
I’m afraid that the LAW analogy is lost on me since I never got to fire or even hold one. 🙂 But that business of putting the bottom of the butt in your shoulder is true of the Garand as well as the AR-15 isn’t it?
Matt61
Matt,
An M72 LAW is like a tiny bazooka. It rests on top of your shoulder rather than against it.
B.B.
Matt – nope the M1/M14/M16 don’t go on top of your shoulder, they go back against it.
You are SOOOOO mean to me! First you pull out a TX200 and now a Talon SS! I almost bought one of these as my first air rifle. Now I am glad I did not, because I probably would not have bought my FWB 601 and my Izzy and I would have been absolutely disgusted with my Gamo CFX or any springer for that matter.
This air rifle is probably the perfect one for someone with a short attention span such as myself. Tired of a .177 backyard plinker? Change a few parts and you have a very competitive FT rifle. Have a groundhog enjoying your garden a bit too much? Change a few parts and you have a 90FPE hunter. Don’t like the butt stock,grip or fore stock? Select from a variety of available ones or design your own. There are some who are building these things into truly big bore air rifles.
May all the hair on top of your head fall out for torturing me!
RR,
Too late, as you know all too well! 😉
B.B.
Yes, I had noticed the great ones in tandem.
Matt61
B.B.
Nope. No sale. I already have two, and a lot of accessories. That’s enough.
twotalon
I noticed this one has the new butt stock. I have heard many an unkind word about the old one. This one is definitely an improvement.
When will Airforce start offering their air rifles with the Spin-Loc already installed? I could see where having to remove the tank to fill it could be a bit of a bother if you are doing a lot of shooting. If I have to buy one seperately, I would prefer the one from Talon Tunes.
RR,
When I took that picture of the Talon SS in the box, AirForce was shipping their first batch of Spin Loc tanks. So they are starting to come out right now. I would imagine they will be shipping guns with them in a very short time.
I asked them to be able to test the new tank, and of course I have to get my rifle modified to accept it. I hate to do that because I love the way my current tanks are working, but I suppose I’ll have to do it to report on how good the new system is.
B.B.
Everyone,
Glenn, who goes by the handle Crop Cop sent this question in on an older blog. I moved it here so he would get better attention.
Michael, could you tell me what size groups you are getting and with what pellets, also what cal. it is, as i just received a Walther falcon hunter in .22 with the nitro piston upgrade from PA, has great power, cocks smooth, smooth trigger, just wont group well with 8 types of h&n pellets or crossman premiers, best group is 2.75″ @ 25 yds, i changed the scope and got the same results with any hold off the bag or steady rest, for hunting i need something with a quarter size group @ 100′ with good power. thanks for your time. Glenn.
Glenn,
When you say “any hold off the bag” I assume you are using the artillery hold? If not, that is the first thing you must change. A spring gun cannot be rested on a bag and expect any accuracy. You hand has to be between the bag and the rifle. See a video about how to use that technique here:
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The next thing to check is how much elevation you have dialed into those two scopes to hit the target at 25 yards. If the scope is in the upper quarter of its elevation, you may be experiencing reticle movement due to erector tube bounce. The test for that is to dial the scope back down to the halfway elevated position and shoot some more groups at 25 yards. We don’t care that the point of impact is 2 feet below the point of aim — just what this does to the group size. If it tightens the groups, you have a drooper barrel (very common with a breakbarrel springer) and need an adjustable scope mount.
Next I was taken by your use of H&N FTT pellets in your rifle. In my testing I have not found them to be very accurate. The same thing goes fpor RWS Superdomes and Superpoints, when used in a magnum springer like yours.
A better pellet to try (you have a .22) is the 15.9-grain JSB Exact Dome. Don’t try the one that weighs 14.3-grains. It won’t work well. And the 18.1-grain Exact won’t be good, either. Just the 15.9-grain Exact for this rifle.
Please at least tell me about the hold you are using and maybe try the elevation thing if either of your scopes are set too high, and we can go from there.
B.B.
I think this is one of the airguns I lust after the most right after the Marauder pistol (carbine).
Short, light weight, accurate and quiet. I would probably turn the adjustement down to get the most shots out of the air and be as quiet as possible.
Sight if only I could buy one.
I hate stupid laws that always get in the way of having fun.
Edith, I think there’s a typo in the 3rd paragraph: “it’s not as quiet not as some silenced guns”
J-F
J-F,
Thanks. I fixed it.
Edith
I own a .177 Talson SS and it is very accurate with the heavy 10+ gr pellets. I like it a lot.
It has a modular design (tank, barrel) that very few airguns can match.
Sadly it is also very loud. Don’t try it without ear protection.
Are you sure it is the SS model? The regular Talon has a longer barrel and is not, thereby, shrouded — meaning it is noisy. (Try a .22 Condor some day — that will set off vibration sensors on window panes if fired indoors)
Zack,
Mine loves the 10.5gr Crosman Premiers that come in the cardboard box. Are you using the stock 12″ barrel and shroud? There is no way you should need hearing protection with those. If your barrel extends out past the shroud, however, it will be a lot louder.
-Chuck
My .177 Talon SS (less than 3 years old) has had no mod(s) to it and Yes it is very loud.
Not backyard friendly. It is also louder than my RWS52 and much louder than my RWS 34. It is very accurate up to 55 yards on heavier pellets.
P.S. AF customer service is the best in the industry.
Cheers,
You’re right about this thing being a shooting system. There are enough ways to configure it to keep the most die-hard gadgeteer happy. Mine is .177, 18″ barrel with an extended shroud, and it really likes Crosman Premier heavy pellets. And don’t forget, with a simple adapter it becomes a dual-fuel gun, for those of us who like CO2 as a propellant.
Yep, there’s a lot to like about this rifle.
Jim
Jim,
I planned to mention the dual fuel capability. Don’t forget there is also a MicroMeter valve that uses air. but gives much lower velocity, for safer in=door target shooting.
B.B.
Heh! “safer” is a rather relative term; especially when talking the .22 Condor. Granted, the lighter pellets at lower “power setting” might get down to 10m class — I’ve not had time to chronograph a real string at various settings.
My infamous single-shot chronograph testing spreadsheet gave (columns are pellet maker, model, weight, FPS, ft-lbs):
Condor High Power Tank dial 8-0 .22
RWS Super-H-Point 14.5 1143.3 42.08
JSB Exact Jumbo Heavy 18.2 1058.0 45.23
AirArms Field Plus 18.2 1068.0 46.09
H&N Crow Magnum 18.2 1076.0 46.78
H&N Baracuda Match 21.1 1010.0 47.79
Gamo TS-22 22.0 977.1 46.63
Eun Jin Round Nose 28.5 949.7 57.07
Eun Jin Pointed 32.4 939.5 63.50
Condor High Power Tank dial 6-0 .22
H&N Baracuda Match 21.1 996.4 46.51
Eun Jin Pointed 32.4 890.9 57.10
Condor High Power Tank dial 5-0 .22
H&N Baracuda Match 21.1 954.8 42.71
Condor High Power Tank dial 4-0 .22
H&N Baracuda Match 21.1 936.9 41.12
Condor Micro-Meter Tank dial 8-0 .22
Beeman H&N Match 13.0 727.4 15.22
RWS Meisterkugeln 14.0 708.2 15.59
RWS SuperPoint 14.5 686.8 15.19
RWS Super-H-Point 14.5 702.2 15.87
Beeman Ramjet 16.0 680.0 16.43
Beeman Silver Ace 16.2 672.6 16.27
H&N Crow Magnum 18.2 635.6 16.33
H&N Barracuda Match 21.1 618.7 17.93
Eun Jin Domed 28.5 554.6 19.46
Eun Jin Pointed 32.4 511.0 18.78
16 ft-lbs with the “low-power” Micro-Meter tank is still rather high for pellet traps (I was using my .22LR trap, though at a shorter distance than recommended — the higher power tests had enough back-splatter that the target looked like it had been hit with a shotgun shooting sand from the back side.
The Micro-Meter tank and 8-0 (7-16 since the wheel, for some reason, is marked 0.5-16 in 0.5 increments; there is no real 0.0 position on the wheel) brought the Condor to just under the power level my RWS m54 was generating (15 vs 18 ft-lb)
Wulfraed,
First, thanks for the Condor data with the Hi-Flo valve. That was most helpful.
Second — why are you running the MicroMeter tank at a setting of 8? Run it at zero and see what you get. That’s where it’s meant to operate.
B.B.
8-0 was the setting I’d initially had set, and just swapped the tanks to do comparison.
Later I started dropping the setting with the high power tank, trying to get the “mid-weight” pellet down to around 925 fps. As mentioned in the past, I still haven’t profiled the power curve (which, with wind, no doubt contributed to my problems getting on paper at the range).
Oh… and the other factor was that the only information I had on the micro-meter tank was the short review (was it one of yours) which indicated that it didn’t produce much velocity change in relation to power wheel setting… So it was another incentive to just leave the wheel alone at the time.
I’m still surprised the police didn’t show up. All those chronograph results were done with the gun sitting on a table in my open doorway, with a target/trap 15 feet away… The Condor should have attracted some attention, no?
One gets the idea a drug gang could strafe the block and get no response.
* Okay, just checked… Your name is plastered all over that review on the AirForce site, and the tables had a power wheel setting of 7 listed as “medium”.
Wufraed,
And was I testing the Condor or a Talon SS?
B.B.
You had a table for each: Talon SS, Talon, and Condor.
Very interesting…But will we ever see another story in the ilk of “Fanner 50” from the old blog?
Guest,
Sure you will! I guess it’s been a while since I wrote one like that. hasn’t it?
You keep after me, but I’m thinking next week.
B.B.
Glad to hear it! Every now and then its good to just take a step back into simpler times. 🙂
Any connection the the short story, The Guest, by Albert Camus? Just curious.
Ken
No connection. Its just that while I read the blog fairly often, I post only but seldom. So I’m not a regular, but rather a guest. 😉
The Guest, I thought for a moment you were bringing some existential philosophy into the mix. Of course, you know that this is a very welcoming place for guests.
Ken
Once again you have demonstrated the AMAZING ability to blog a gun the day after I do a search and read everything you have written about a certain gun.This has happened several times before.I read the first installment,contained in “What would BB do?”,then the second in the CB cap saga.I had meant to ask for one in the regular 1-2-3 format…….but now I don’t need to ask.I indulged in the “Ultimate Condor pkg”,as my first PCP.Since then I picked up a Talon in .20 at a price nobody could pass on.The Condor has everything but a cup holder! Having all those accessories,it is just barely heavy! It has a bi-pod,AF red laser w/touch pad,Konus Pro scope,ND3 green laser collimator,Streamlight weapon light,and an Evo mod on the 24″ .25 barrel.I don’t think Ken & Barbie had that many accessories!
I know it seems like WAY too much stuff,but everything has its purpose and does it well,period.The laser collimator allows illumination of the FOV of the scope for night hunts.The AF laser gives a close range aim point,0-15 yds…..and makes up for the scope height.The Streamlight is self explanatory,as is the bi pod.The Evo tames the bark as well as the bloop tube did.With three tanks to choose from,plus Co2,and regged HPA using the Co2 valve…..it is like a Swiss Army airgun.
Frank,
Swiss Army airgun. I like that! 🙂
B.B.
I have the condor. I love that gun. It cost a fortune but I love how adaptable it is. I got mine all tricked out with tactical foregrip sights…I bought everything I could for it. I doubt any other gun in my stable is it’s equal….except 1. I have no Idea what it is but I know it’s a chinese underlever. I saw used ones called “american camper”. Ugliest gun I own but it is almost as accurate.
John,
I heard about those accurate Chinese airguns. Never seen one up close, but I’ve read enough tales that I believe they do exist.
B.B.
I thought thema myth too. I know they no longer make this mode. Too bad. Only chinese gun I own that works beyond 25 yards give or take a few. It might not hit a target at 100 yards since it’s only 700fps but I think it could be as good as the bronco. I’m not quite understanding why the stock was painted red/brown with what obviously was a paint brush and no skill. One day I plan on stripping it and staining it properly.
I think my Chinese-made Daisy makes 650 fps or a bit more, using RWS “Hobby” flat nose (light) pellets, and since I pump it up then leave it on the wall for days, it’s a “pre-charged pneumatics” ba-da-BOOM.
And I made a dead-on, pinpoint shot with it today. Lousy little scope and all.
There *are* accurate Chinese made guns.
Hm, I don’t know what to make of this business of gun as “system.” In the context of the AR, it has always sounded evasive to me, as a way to make up for the gun’s deficiencies or a way to play with the gun instead of actually shooting the darned thing. You are giving up the marvelous efficiency of the AK-47 which is perfectly optimized for just about every shooting situation except for the most extreme.
On the other hand, I’ve got nothing against “system” if the design is sound as it seems to be here. And it looks pretty cool. I’ve a fan of the space-age design. Speaking of modern, that tube-like buttstock and tank doesn’t look very ergonomic or promising for a good cheek weld. How does that work?
Is this still the gun of choice by the US Agriculture department for disposing of pests? This is a good point to issue a new hunting challenge. I’d say that we sent the titanoboa packing. Now there is a new threat. Thanks to some retailer of exotic wild animals, there is now an infestation in Florida of Gambian rats–the largest in the world that routinely grow over three feet. No cat would have a chance against them. What’s are airgun weapon to deal with them? (No grenades or flamethrowers this time.) The Talon system looks good, but this raises perhaps my only gripe with the system which is the lack of a magazine. I don’t see how you can avoid giving preference to the Evanix full-auto pcp whose exact model name I am forgetting right now. For rats that size, the follow-up shot may be critical; I’m not even sure if small-bore airguns would reliably put them away without a very accurate shot. This brings to mind our blogger of a few years ago who claimed to be shooting crows in the head with his air rifle to no effect!?
Matt61
Matt,
For three-foot rats I might chose a big bore.
B.B.
A powerful .22 air rifle would work with head shots. But, if noise and location isn’t an issue I would move up to a firearm.
Mike
Go for penetration, something like a Beeman Kodiak, and forget head shots, animals like that have skulls shaped kind of like an apricot seed, very hard to get a kill shot. Instead aim for heart/lungs, just like a deer hunter does, that’ll kill them as opposed to annoying them and having ’em come around asking you for Excedrin for their headache later.
Matt,
You’re right, an AirForce gun that gets changed all the time is the opposite of an AK. I kept my SS in one configuration for many years, but for this report I’ve switched back to a 12-inch barrel again. Gone is my sighted-in go-to airgun. Oh, well.
B.B.
BB, I’ll bet you can find another for a while!
Mike
BB,that begs the question;which barrel do you keep mounted up in your Whiscombe? Inquiring minds want to know….LOL With mine,it is currently the .20,but for no particular reason.Soon I plan to test the .25 Kings that my Condor & DAQs all seem to love.You may now say “I told you so!” I like them more than the Kodiaks(or my guns do)
Frank,
I keep the last barrel I’ve used. But usually it is .22 caliber.
B.B.
how can I get the talon ss,,,thanks
You order it from Pyramyd AIR — the owner of this website.
Go here:
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B.B.