Is it true that this pistol is well known for faulty seals and leaking?
Keith from USA my P17 holds pressure very well I cocked it and let it sit for an half hour, in safe location. Then took the shot power was still there.
Not really faulty seals, but faulty machine work. They've been known to leak since day one 10+ years ago and nothing has changed. I don't know what % leak but you sure hear about it when they do. "If" you get a leaker can return it or fix it, which isn't that hard. Who wants to fix something new but that's the gamble you take with chinese stuff. The option is to buy the better quality HW40/Beeman P3. Nice, but I'll pocket the extra $200 and get this one. So if you want to fix a leaker you need to pull the piston to see if the O-ring is damaged. If so check the teeny air intake hole in the compression tube which was drilled and beveled but not finished so there are burrs. To fix the burrs you tightly roll up a piece of quality wet/dry 600 sandpaper that you will use like a teeny file to get in the hole and smooth it. You have to take the gun mostly apart to sand this hole but I don't think it's that bad. A replacement O-ring is AS568-117. There are three other O-rings inside that must hold as well, but usually not an issue. Other than that it's an excellent gun and should outlast most. If you need I have pix to help; chevota at hotmail
How many pound cockng effort is there..someone posted "Not hard" means noting for an 86 year old..5 pounds feels like 12 ounds.
The force at the hardest point is about 25lbs but can vary a couple pounds from gun to gun. Opening the gun is easy, the force is when closing the gun and it starts getting heavy about the last third of the stroke and peaks the last 3-2" before closing, then the last inch is easier. I hold the grip normally in my right hand, gun level and pointing to my left, then place the base of my left palm on the rear sight area, fingers pointing to my right, and push it down. You can use your body to assist with the last and hardest part by using the same method but while sitting you rest the gun on your right thigh and lean your chest into your left hand. The rear sight will compress, but springs right back. Most of the force is put on the guns protective rails on either side of the sight. The fiber optic strand on the rear sight is brittle and broke on my gun from the pressure of my hand, but it works fine without it. The one on my second gun has not broken yet. Be careful not to pinch your skin or shirt in the gun when it closes. It's a neat gun and well worth the price.
Hi, is it the new model with optic fiber sights that is sold here?
Mine had the fiber optic inserts, but unfortunately they are brittle and located right where you put the pressure on it to pump it. They were very short lived in my gun. You could modify them to survive, and if I decide to do that with my second gun I'll post the how-to.
Hi, dear friend, can you ship it cheaper. it is too much to pay 130$ for shipping :)
Pyramyd Air only ships with FedEx. The amount that you see listed is the best price available for shipping from the warehouse to your location.
What are the best pellets for this gun? I'm just shooting at paper and swinging targets. Are coated pellets better than non coated? Pointed vs. wadcutter? Can any pellets be re-used?
A guy at Pyramid Air recommended I try the inexpensive "Diablo Basic, which are $6.89 for 500 wad cutter pellets. I just finished shooting the gun with these and hit a bull eye from 21 feet after only 2 practice shots. I haven't tried any "premium" pellets but am satisfied with these. What's great about these is that they make a large hole in my paper targets, so I can see where I hit without having to always walk up to the target to check the hit.
I like the JSB round nose in 8.44, 10.34, and 13.43gr. Of course the heavier are slower, but have more power at all ranges and more accurate excluding the more pronounced trajectory. The JSB are not only precision, but a good fit, seal well, and have minimal friction. All great bennies for a low powered gun. Mine shoots those pellets at 385, 355, and 319fps, fyi. I would also recommend the RWS Superdome.
how hard is it to cock this gun?
I do not consider it to be hard to cock and I am not a "he-man" by any means. I'm 60 years-old with a touch of arthritis.
whats the difference from the p17 and p3!?!?!?!??
Weihrauch, which makes the P3, has commented to airgun writer Tom Gaylord that the P17 is such an close copy of their P3 pistol, that owners often contact Weihrauch for repair and warranty work. Because Weihrauch doesn't want to disappoint these owners, they actually repair these guns as if they made them and covered them. Is that a great company or what?
The P3 is the original gun made in Germany. The P17 is a Chinese clone of the P3. The P3 has better fit and finish, as would be expected from a gun costing 6x the price of the P17.
Can the P17 be dry fired like the P3? The description of the P3 states that it can be dry fired but the description of the P17 doesn't state that.
Yes you can, dry fire will not hurt it.
Is the Beeman P17 trigger action single and double action?
No, the "hammer" is actually a latch which holds the top down. Pulling back on the hammer releases the top so you can pump it once and then latch it back in place.