Things I liked:I bought the Condor with refill SCUBA yoke & I love it! With a 3200# 80 SCUBA tank you get about 8-10 fills with 3000-2800 psi charges. By 15 fills the pressure will drop to 2000 psi & it's time to refill the SCUBA tank. The Condor will shoot OK down to 1800 psi, but prefers 2000+ at a setting of 6 or higher. Accuracy is as advertized-Outstanding. I have owned a lot of good airguns - but nothing even comes close to the Condor. Things I would have changed:1. The safety is very hard to release and is not worthy of the rest of this well designed gun. After firing 5000 rounds in two weeks my finger has developed calous and is getting numb. Airforce needs to fix this.
2. It's too loud! The Condor sounds like a .22 short at best, a .22 long rifle at full power. If you live in the suburbs, buy a Beeman muzzle brake, #7129 to keep the neighbors happy & the cops away from your door. It only costs $30 from Pyramid Air & works. Looks cool too. What others should know:The Condor is the most powerful & best .22 airgun made. I'd steer clear of the CO2 version. Pressure is too low & CO2 is a pain to deal with. If you have a 3200 psi SCUBA tank it's a snap to refill the Condors tank with the refill yoke. Used 80 cubic inch tanks are about $100. I even bought a 3200 psi Flamethrower comperssor w/gas motor for it - $1000 shipped from Bargain Marge (361)937-3396.
Things I liked:It's SILENT! The only noise comes from cocking the bolt & pellet impacting the target. No more visits from the city COPS! Outstanding quality & finish. Love the air pressure guage. With a 8-30X50 NCSTAR scope & Premier hollow point pellets I easily get 3/4" groups at 30 meters, less than 1" groups at 40 - 50 meters. 70+ meters is do-able. It's a pleasure to shoot, cocks smoothly, the 16 shot mag works great, is simple to load, and my S-16 gets 80 shots per air-charge (still in the green). The Logun S-16 is silimar looking to my Airforce Condor (a very good thing) but, for me, the S-16 is more accurate, shoots 16 shots between reloads, and is very very quiet. REPEAT - IT'S QUIET! Things I would have changed:It's too heavy. With my scope, full clip & charged air bottle it weighs 10 1/2 pounds. It's not that bad, but compaired to my Condor it's a porker. LOGUN - lighten the S-16 up! Please. If it weighed 2 1/2 pounds less it would be perfect! The SCUBA clamp adaptor will NOT FIT on low neck K valves! An easy fix by filing down the clamp about an 1/8" with a 1/2 round file where it hits the K valve. Easy, but it should fit without you needing to fix it first.
PYRAMID AIR- FIND QUIET A SEMIAUTOMATIC .22 CALIBER PELLET PCP RIFLE WITH A SILIMAR DESIGN AND IT WILL SELL BIG TIME. What others should know:I loved my Airforce Condor - but it was way too loud - ticked off the neighbors & resulted in 5 visits from the local cops (San Diego area). The Logun S-16 isn't cheap at $1000+. But, if you want a powerful PCP repeater rifle that's also super quiet - there is currently no other choice at any price. Getting 80+ shots per fill is a big bonus.