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    Product: Beeman P17

    Beeman P17 Air gun
    Review entered on 2014-07-25 16:16:50

    Overall rating:5.0 5.0

    Value for money:5.0 5.0

    Accuracy:5.0 5.0

      By Arpad from USA on 2014-07-25
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    4.01 rating
    Things I liked:The overall feel,fiber optic sights, automatic "safety-on", smooth trigger action and out-of-the-box accuracy. I'm no great shot, but my first round from 20 feet was within 3/4 in from target dead center. Not being tied to a co2 cartridge is great! Partially cocking the gun without loading a pellet and dry firing is great for learning trigger feel.
    Things I would have changed:As others have said, pellet loading and cocking effort can be hard. I solved the pellet loading problem using a section of soda straw, insert the pellet in the end, align with the breech and press home with a thin wooden dowel. The manufacturer could develop its idea further. The hard cocking turned out to be an advantage. Since I gas using it to teach my grandson range safety and marksmanship, the break in the action while I cocked it gave me extra time for "words of shooting wisdom".
    What others should know:To get such accuracy at this price is teriffic. If you look, there is enough good advice in cyberspace (pyramyd and youtube) to anticipate and overcome problems. The smile on my grandson's face the first time he came within a nickel of dead center was worth a million. This P17 is a super gun both for shooting instruction and my own plinking pleasure.

    Product: Taurus PT 24/7 Spring airsoft pistol

    KWC Taurus PT 24/7 Spring airsoft pistol Airsoft gun
    Review entered on 2014-07-29 20:34:42

    Overall rating:1.0 1.0

    Value for money:2.0 2.0

    Accuracy:1.0 1.0

      By Arpad from USA on 2014-07-29
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    0.00 ratings
    Things I liked:The gun looks and feels fine. It just wasn't what I had hoped for, see below.
    Things I would have changed:The bb feeding was not good. Sometimes it would feed two, other times hang up. Whatever the rated muzzle velocity is, the drag on the bb as it flies through the air slows it very, very fast, see below.
    What others should know:I wanted something to help teach my grandson about marksmanship & range procedures. The rated muzzle velocity and the "safer" characteristics of the projectile persuaded me to try it. The gun was troublesome to operate, the projectiles were slow, you could see them arc off course, and the gun did not seem to be accurate. (I was getting better accuracy results with a 30 plus year old .177 Marksman repeater- which is no great shakes). Anyway, I returned it, Pyramid was super to work with. I wound up getting a Beeman P17 which may be a bit large but is accurate and has a decent trigger pull so we have gotten started with the range and marksmanship training. It's going well, my grandson is enjoying it. My point is, the airsoft stuff (or at least this Taurus) is not up to any realistic range and marksmanship instruction. It's more like a toy, OK for war games where distance and accuracy are not real factors.

    Product: IZH 60 Air Rifle

    IZH-Baikal IZH 60 Air Rifle Air rifle
    Review entered on 2014-09-28 14:50:15

    Overall rating:5.0 5.0

    Value for money:5.0 5.0

    Accuracy:4.0 4.0

      By Arpad from USA on 2014-09-28
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    Things I liked:This is one solid looking and feeling air gun. Operation is smooth and it fits well to hand and shoulder. It seems very accurate but my old eyes don't focus quit right so I can't really evaluate accuracy properly. My grandson liked the "looks cool" factor but the weight and lack of a safety was a bit more than we felt comfortable at this stage of his training.
    Things I would have changed:The gun is what it is and I wouldn't try to change Russian manufacturing anyway, but perhaps Pyramyd could offer a package that includes a red dot sight and/or an inexpensive scope (with the right mount) which could help us older folks acquire and/or see the target better than the sights that come with the gun. (Yes, seniors like to shoot, too).
    What others should know:I bought this as part of teaching my young grandson range safety and shooting. We started with a Red Rider followed by a daisy Grizzly, which is a great trainer. The IZH 60 was a bit too big a next step. At first I was going to exchange it for a lighter gun with a safety, and Pyramyd was very gracious about it, but in the end I couldn't part with, kept it for myself and ordered a mid-level multi pump gun with scope for him (from Pyramyd of course). Pyramyd's information base is awesome and is really helpful in working out what to get.
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