Things I liked:They are good, I only get a flyer once and a while.My groups are average. I get 1/4 to 3/4" groups indoors at 30 yards. The flyers are out to 1 1/2". Things I would have changed:I'm going to try the beast (heavier), when it is available What others should know:My gun is an unregulated Daystate Myrlyn X2. My scope is a 10-50x60 Nikko Sterling.I'm shooting in the 2800 psi to 2000 psi range.