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By JIMS19 from USA on 2010-02-03 02:31:40 Things I liked:GREAT POWER, GOOD BALANCE AND EXCELLENT ACCURACY. THEY DONT MAKE AIR PISTOLS LIKE THIS AND IVE SHOT A FEW IN MY DAY.Things I would have changed:THE GRIPS, BUT THAT CAN BE CHANGED TO WOOD, THEY ARE FOR SALE IF IT STARTS TO BOTHER ME. What others should know:THIS IS A VERY POWERFUL AIR GUN. AT 10 PUMPS YOU WILL GET 600 FPS, I HAVE WITH 11.5 GRAIN .177 PELLETS THATS 12 FPE. ALWAYS KEEP 1 PUMP WHEN NOT IN USE IN THE PISTOL TO PROTECT THE SEALS AND POWERPLANT. |  |
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By Frank from Denmark on 2008-08-24 10:40:39 Things I liked:none. my gun broke down after 4 shots.Things I would have changed:i would choose another gun :P What others should know:well, maybe i had a bad model, buti had very high hopes for this gun. i had read so many reviews about it, and then i took my own gun out the box straight from the door, shot it 3 times, and then i broke down. |
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- Things I liked:I picked a refurb and for 35 bucks this pistol is incredible. Once zeroed in this is a very accurate pistol. I can shoot this as is or mod to my liking and that is a reason this is a classic.
Things I would have changed:The grips are a weak point cause they are a bit loose. I am sure I can make some decent grips out of some pallet wood. Down the road I may change out the breech and go with a scope or some better sites.
What others should know:Great gun. This pistol is lefty friendly and variable power makes for a good indoor shooter. - Things I liked:Low purchase cost. Low operating cost (no powerlettes to buy). Variable power (and sound level). Nice long breech accepts every 0.177 pellet I have ever tried - and shoots them all accurately. Absolutely no surprises. HUGE upgrade path. Easy and fun to shoot.
Things I would have changed:A rubber or felt pad on the pump arm to reduce the "clack-clack" of pumping.
What others should know:I have put a couple thousand pellets through my little 1377, and love it. I have other, "better" air-guns, but this is always the first one I grab to go plinking. It is accurate (even with the "basic" sights). I normally hit milk-jug caps and charcoal brickets at 20 yards, no problem. This little gun is quite a bit more accurate than I am :) Oh, be sure to flip the rear sight around - the aperture sight is a bit better than the blade (especially for us old dudes) I did change out the pump handle for a more comfortable one and added a shoulder stock (so it's sort of a "backpacker" at this point). It's a great gun for tinkering or just leaving alone. The only issue I have ever had is when I left it in the sun on a hot GA day and the rubber plunger got soft and popped off the pump ram - after it cooled off, everything was fine again. - Things I liked:Accurate and fun to shoot. Great for the price.
Things I would have changed:About the only thing I would change might be to make some of the plastic parts wood (grips, forearm) or metal (breech). However, if I really wanted those features, I could have spent about 3x as much and bought the Benjamin HB17.
What others should know:I have had this gun for a month or less and so far it is an accurate shooter. I have put over 300 rounds through it and I believe it is well worth what I paid for it. I use it to shoot at Gamo 5.5" square paper targets from 8-10 yards, and I am real happy with how it shoots. I have read some reviews other places that claim that the sights are not adjustable. Although they are not fancy, the rear sight does have adjustments for both elevation and windage, and the sight element can be reversed to turn it into a peephole sight. - Things I liked:For the price, this is an incredibly consistent accurate target shooting practice gun!
Things I would have changed:There is a simple set screw for correcting for windage. It lacks a 'fine' adjustment screw.
What others should know:I practice primarily w/ BBs. I stuff a small pinch of fine cotton fiber into the barrel with the bolt beforehand followed by a BB - the cotton prevents the BB from rolling down the barrel. BBs may not provide for the most accurate shots but good enough for short distance indoor practice.CommentsBy Edith from USA on 2013-03-15 1 
Attila--Using BBs in this airgun is a bad idea. It's made only for lead pellets. You will eventually ruin your barrel...not to mention voiding your warranty. I'm glad you like your pistol and have had so much fun shooting it, but you should switch to lead pellets so you don't reduce the accuracy by damaging the rifling in the bore. - Things I liked:I have two, 1998 model and the new version. The brown plastic handle and forearm on the newer model is a deeper, richer brown as the pictures show.
- Things I liked:First impressions aside, the Crosman 1377/PC77 really shoots. A horrendous trigger and sad excuse for sights don't keep this baby from hitting its mark.
Things I would have changed:The forepiece could be improved: hits the trigger guard most every time pistol is cocked. Calling the plastic thingy atop the receiver "SIGHTS" is shameful. Trigger pull is such that even a novice would complain. I can't understand why it is that air gun manufacturers continually cut corners...a slightly improved product, though raising costs proportionately just might improve sales.
What others should know:When adjusting rear sight use utmost care not to strip screw/thread and be wary not to overtighten anything. Three pumps thru ten, doesn't seem to matter as far as accuracy goes at 30feet. - Things I liked:I like these guns for one simple reason....raw materials. They make an excellent custom pump air rifle and there are so many modifications that are available for it, you can turn these into a credible survival hunting rifle
Things I would have changed:Lose all the plastic. Wood is mot that expensive and the plastic is always the first thing I get rid of on these guns.
What others should know:These can be so much more than what they are. - Things I liked:Everything! Above all, there are two things, which are probably the two most important. Accuracy and power! At close range, this thing has enough energy to take a squirrel/rabbit with ease. It has the accuracy, even with the standard sights to perform an ethical kill. I'm not sure I'd try it on anything larger, though. I've only shot paper and hard targets such as treated wood pilings, etc and for it's size, it packs a punch. As for groups, I was able to get just over an inch at 18 yards with standard .177 caliber Crosman hunting pellets, the ones that come in the bulk 1250 ct carton. I was able to squeeze out what seemed to be .8 to .9 inch groups at the same distance (18yds) with JSB Diabolo 8.44grain pellets. I went to order some more, but realized they were no longer available. They are now re-branded "Air Arms Diabolo Field", copy that into the search. The ones I have are the 4.51mm head diameter, so I'd definitely recommend them.
Things I would have changed:Nothing really. I guess if there is one thing I would change is the sights. They are "blocky" and large. It is hard to pinpoint where the pellet will hit. I said above that this gun is capable of epic accuracy, but you may need to get used to the sights before you can achieve this. When I first got the gun, I wasnt shooting all that accurately, but after a couple sessions, I got the sights down. Like I said, the sights are large and blocky, which makes it tricky to aim. I find myself hitting the target very accurately, however, I often don't feel confident as the front sight pretty much covers the entire target, even at 20 yards. If I could find some nice precision sight for this gun, I will definitely replace these. Haveing the sights be steel from the factory would also be nice, but adds cost.
What others should know:A couple things here and there... 1. This may not be a great gift for a young child. Maybe 14 or over. It's not because of the guns power, which is negligible compared to a pump or break barrel air rifle, but because it is simply difficult to pump. I have been shooting a Daisy Powerline 901 for years. At first it was slightly hard to pump, but after a few sessions, I can shoot it all day. Now, I'm currently 16 and after using this for many sessions, I can shoot it without worry too much. About a year and a half ago, I found that when I could pump the gun past about 6, I would strain my wrist. A shooting pain would hit my wrist, it felt like someone stabbed it with a knife for a second. It was frustrating that I couldnt use the gun to it's full potential... You'll get used to it after a while, but at first, definitely painful. 2. Chamber length - Dont try any of those extra heavy pellets like the eun jin 16gr pellets, they are hard to chamber. I dont know if it will damage the gun, in fact, I doubt it will do any damage at all, but I wouldnt bother. They don't shoot very accurately out of this gun anyway. 3. You can install several aftermarket mods to this gun, including bolt mods, a replacement air tank that can be pumped up to 30x for a massive boost in power, scope mounts from crosman, etc. Overall, this gun is amazing, you will not be disappointed. With amazing accuracy, impressive power and an amazing price, how can you go wrong!? Shoot safe and have fun! - Things I liked:almost everything. accuracy, power, cost, reliability, easy of use to name a few.
Things I would have changed:A steel breach and longer probe for one, and two, a fiber optic front sight.
What others should know:I LOVE THIS PISTOL! It is highly customizable, longer barrel, different bolts with extended probe, real wood grips and pumping handle to name a few. This piston is accurate now matter what kind of pellet you use. I can hit a soda can from 50 yards 4 out of 5 times with the stock sights. It is powerful as well. I have bagged a rabbit with a head shot at 30 yard. It is very quiet too. I recommend this to anyone who likes pistol shooting or want to teach children ho to shoot. One thing you must know is that after a while of pumping you do get fatigued but it is worth it. Also, it can be a little hard to load wadcutter pellets due to the small front breach screw since the hole is not tapered at the front. Just make sure the pellet head is past the hole and you should be good. For $55 plus shipping it is very hard to beat. - Things I liked: value, this 1s a American made icon, a air pistol that can be handed down for generations. every part has a number and that part is cheap. who knows how long they last with care. if you can only afford one power full air gun, this is the one, They re-make it now in .22 cal.
Things I would have changed: refine the rear sight, go with the LPA version
What others should know: this gun should be in every back pack, I've owned mine for seven years now, we have been on some small adventures together in the woods. - Things I liked:every part on this gun has a number, you can keep this gun working as long as there is a crosman. parts are cheap. its accurate out of the box and always ready, just add pellets.
Things I would have changed:Hogue rubber grips and fore arm please
What others should know:this air pistol should be in every back pack. with this weapon you and your family won't starve, and its just as tough as it looks. great after market parts..177 for feathers .22 for fur or feathers. excellent 10m pistol - Things I liked:Fun to shoot.
Things I would have changed:Wish I could order it new with wood grips.
What others should know:Great airgun for the money. - Things I liked:Accurate out of the box. Inexpensive to buy. Customizable. It is exceptionally accurate ot 25 feet off hand, but it requires a lot of practice to get consistant groups. It is great fun to shoot this gun and is safe to shoot indoors into a trap. It will not bother the sleeping family upstairs if you only pump 3 times--very quiet at low power, but still accurate.
Things I would have changed:The plastic grips and breech. I bought wood grips and pump lever and the crosman metal breech, as well as the Williams sight. This makes it a great gun.
What others should know:It's large for a handgun, but still fits in a small back pack. Nice to have with you on cross country bike rides or in the car. You never know when I might come in handy. - Things I liked:i really LOVE this gun is is small but packs a punch,is very accurate and there are tons of mods available i have a crosman 1399 stock installed on mine and have the 459mt intermounts on the way.the trigger on this gun is smooth single action and is the same as the 1 on the crosman silhouette which is 7 times the price.
Things I would have changed:steel sights instead of plastic ones.the second day i had this gun the screw on the sight stripped the original threads because it is a self tapping screw so be sure to take care when adjusting the sights.(i am talking about the small screw on the rear sight)
What others should know:very good gun will recommend that you dont use napier power pellet lube on cleaning pellets in the barrel as it sprays a grey residue out the barrel and interferes with accuracy but if the right amount of lube is applied to ordinary pellets the results are good. - Things I liked:Very nice and customizeable. Mine is now a .22 rifle with steel breech added, rifle stock , wooden foreend and red dot sight.
Things I would have changed:nothing
What others should know:I only use 5 pumps you don't need ten. - Things I liked:Its a fun inexpensive pistol to target shoot with. I got the long steel breach from crosman and dot sight from PA. At 25' accuracy is great a ragged hole covered by a nickle, using both crosman 7.4 pointed and 7.4 wadcutter pellets, pointed doing slightly better.
Things I would have changed:the plastic breach
What others should know:This is my 2nd attempt at a review I'll see if its published. After the first I discovered PA now offers the long steel breach kit from crosman in both 177 & 22 cal. You could reduce mod costs for many crosman models provided you had free shipping. You can find the breach under accesories then parts. - Things I liked:The stock gun is decent, but where this gun shines is in its simplicity of construction and the ability to mod it easily.
Things I would have changed:The plastic grips. I hate the look of the wood texturing, the pump arm is too thin for adequate/safe grip when pumping, and about half of the pistol grips I have owned have had a poor fit causing them to wobble. Please offer a model using the old backpacker pump arm and the lightly textured pistol grips sold on your PCP pistols using the same grip frame. It would also be nice if Crosman offered a more expensive version that came with the steel breech.
What others should know:If you are looking for a project or just want to get a better understanding of how a pellet gun works, this is a great starting point. The 2240 is a bit easier to take apart and rebuild, but, for me, the 13xx guns are the most fun to tinker on and shoot.CommentsBy timothy from USA on 2012-10-12 -2 13xx - Things I liked:Price, accuracy, fun factor. THIS is the BEST pellet pistol for the money!!!
Things I would have changed:Offer a steel breech version as an option!
What others should know:I absolutely love this pistol! I shoot it throughout the winter in my basement range. I take it outside for casual plinking. I recently ordered a steel breech for this pistol to be able to mod it. As excellent as the 1377 is out of the box; I fail to understand WHY the steel breech remains as an alternative option to a GREAT gun. Heck; add $10 - $20 for a steel breech version and I would be a grateful buyer.CommentsBy Ringo from USA on 2013-01-22 0 The steel breech runs around $34.95 on pyramyd air and if you go to crosman it will be around $42 with shipping and ebay it can be as high as $50. pyramyd could do like they do with the nitro pistons and have an option to have it installed for folks.By Ringo from USA on 2013-01-22 0 To help you understand, before I installed the steel breech on my 1377 all you could hear from the gun was the sound from the hammer spring and the spring in the valve mostly in part of having a 24" barrel on it because it was only like that after I put it on, There was no report from the muzzle, after I put the steel breech on it all you can really hear now is the muzzle report so all said and done it increases your muzzle velocity, by how much I don't know but it does make a difference, I think it's because it seals better at the breech of the barrel and the transfer port between the pump tube and the breech. When installing the steel breech I recommend putting a transfer port seal on both sides of the transfer port.By Ringo from USA on 2013-01-21 0 My 1377 is almost fully modded, Once it's complete I'll post some pic's. so far I have the shoulder stock, steel breech, flat top valve, flat top piston, 24" barrel,a trigger shoe and a 4x20mm scope and all that's left that I know of is a lighter sear spring for the trigger and an adjustable tensioner for the hammer spring. If anyone knows of any other mods for it please share.By timothy from USA on 2012-10-12 -2 2300tBy Mitchell from USA on 2012-09-11 1 I'll bet you were surprised when you needed to buy either a rear sight or some other type of sight after you installed the steel breech. I'm looking at this as a starter target pistol. I looked into adding the steel breech and other mods in the future. After you do that you're in the price range of the 2300T. Then you have to decide pump or CO2. - Things I liked:Great and accurate gun.....
Things I would have changed:get rid of the plastic parts.........stainless steel breech, put an optic front sight and adjustable micrometer rear sight on, and put wooden grips and pumping handle. Customers would be glad to pay extra for these parts.....all in all a very accurate weapon.CommentsBy Paul from USA on 2013-03-03 1 You can get what your describing though the Crosman custom shop but it costs about $250.00. Also I never consider any air pistol a weapon. - 123 ... 910
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Overall rating:4 4.0
Value for money:5 5.0
Accuracy:5 5.0
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Things I would have changed:Smoothen out trigger...change the breech back to metal. Sights a little weak.
What others should know:Once you get this dialed in it will shoot better than you do...many upgrades to choose from but there goes the idea of buying a great low cost weapon. Seems to like many differant pellets but I look forward to trying many differant kinds.