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By Delwin from USA on 2010-01-21 03:11:49 Things I liked:Extremely accurate. Reasonably priced. Adjustable ergonomics to fit a variety of youths to adults. Good balance. The best trigger in the competition sporter air rifle category.Things I would have changed:A better standard rear sight. A better selection of front sight aperture inserts. What others should know:The new Challenger 2009 is miles better than Crosman's first effort with the Challenger 2000. It keeps the earlier rifle's adjustable ergonomics but adds a first rate trigger (for the category) and the highly accurate, German made Lothar-Walther barrel. While the trigger cannot be compared to a German Olympic level rifle, you would have to pay at least three times the price of this air rifle to get a better trigger. From a sand bag rest at ten meters, I've shot five pellet groups that look like only one pellet was fired at the target. This rifle likes premium German made ammo. I've gotten the best results with RWS Meisterkugeln and R-10s in the heavy, 8.2 grain weight. With compressed air, I can get 100-110 consistent shots. On CO2, I've gotten a bit more, 130-140 shots with a fill of 1.5 ounces. This rifle action can be taken apart from the stock with just one screw. The rifle will then fit in a short takedown shotgun case for easy storage and transport. This rifle will be competitive in Sporter competitions. |  |
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By Carlos from USA on 2011-12-13 15:40:26 Things I liked:Light weight, decent trigger.Things I would have changed:Quality control from crosman. This is the second rifle of ten I have bought from crosman than comes with a leak. I can't believe that a Rifle of US $600 doesn´t have the minimum quality control. Quality control of crosman. This is the second rifle of ten I have bought from crosman than comes with a leak. I can't believe that a Rifle of US$600 doesn´t have the minimum quality control. The firs thing I did after unboxing was trying to fill the rifle with the benjamin air pump and for the second time with a crosman rifle the air leaks through the barrel, I am very disappointed. Tha firs thing I did after unboxing was tring to fill the rifle with the benjamin air pump and for the second with a crosman rifle the air leaks through the barrel, I am very disapointed. What others should know:You should buy the 10 for $10 test service from pyramydair if you are going to buy a crosman rifle. A few months ago I bought a benjamin discovery with this same problem. |
- Things I liked:This seems like a perfect Sporter rifle. Got it shipped a couple of days back.By the looks of it, seems pretty light-weight and good value for money. The accuracy needs to be tested though and will post the results soon
Things I would have changed:1. Service was pretty poor. Though we had spoken to the sales rep-Mr Eric on more than one occasion, regarding attachment of some import papers to the carton, this was completely ignored and I'd had to cough up $300 as customs duty which could have been avoided since I had all necessary legal documentation. 2. Address mentioned on carton was wrong and mis-spelt. 3. Packaging was shoddy. Pellets from one box were strewn all over and I eventually lost about 30 of them . - Things I liked:Excellent 10 meter gun for the money. Will shoot with the germans,, if YOU can.
Things I would have changed:Needs more front aperture inserts. Would like to be able to adjust the very good trigger to be a little lighter. Got it down to about a pound and a half,, would like to get to 6 ounces.
What others should know:You have to buy your refilling adapter separatly. It doesn't come with one. You will need to run at least 500 rounds through this barrel to get to it's full potential. Then it will be capable of all tens,, if you are. This is NOT a plinker,, this is a precision air rifle. - Things I liked:Light weight, decent trigger.
Things I would have changed:Quality control from crosman. This is the second rifle of ten I have bought from crosman than comes with a leak. I can't believe that a Rifle of US $600 doesn´t have the minimum quality control. Quality control of crosman. This is the second rifle of ten I have bought from crosman than comes with a leak. I can't believe that a Rifle of US$600 doesn´t have the minimum quality control. The firs thing I did after unboxing was trying to fill the rifle with the benjamin air pump and for the second time with a crosman rifle the air leaks through the barrel, I am very disappointed. Tha firs thing I did after unboxing was tring to fill the rifle with the benjamin air pump and for the second with a crosman rifle the air leaks through the barrel, I am very disapointed.
What others should know:You should buy the 10 for $10 test service from pyramydair if you are going to buy a crosman rifle. A few months ago I bought a benjamin discovery with this same problem. - Things I liked:My rifle is very accurate, I mean very accurate. Maybe not as accurate as a $2,000+ rifle but I'm not there, yet. I own several Air rifles, including the Daisy 953 and a .22 Marauder, both of which are very accurate, and this Challenger is my favorite. The trigger, right out of the box, is great for me. The adjustable stock is a great plus.
Things I would have changed:More front sight options. I had to buy additional front sight inserts to get the one useful to me. I needed smaller apertures. Search the internet.
What others should know:I have tried 19 different pellets. Best wadcutter (So far) - H&N Finale Match Pistol 7.6gr. Best non-wad (so far) H&N Barracuda 10.65gr. Crosman Premiere in the cardboard Box, not the tin, are great, also. But this is a 10m rifle so you need to search for a wadcutter. I am still searching for better. The rifle has got it, if I can only find the right pellet. - Things I liked:I have not been able to determine anything as of now.
Things I would have changed:The T handle is junk,it does not even give a full description of what is there in the parts manual. It happens that when I first pulled on it it came right off,a little ball berring fell out, apparently this is the rinkydink way it is supposed to stay in place. I am capable of fixing this stupid design, even though the T handle is a poor design. A good locking bolt action would have been much better.
What others should know:I instantly decided the stock had to go, so I redesigned one that that will work for me, I am still in the process of finising the stock.It will have checkering, a palm swell and a good urathane finish so it can take a beating.All in all I think I will have a winner for the price. It's too bad I did not think of it at the time, I would have just bought the barrel assembly and trigger. - Things I liked:This gun is absolutely incredible! Out of the box with only minor adjustment to the stock sights. It was shooting groups you could cover with button up to 50 feet. I’m still shocked at this guns performance.
Things I would have changed:The stock, although it has many adjustments, it could use more.
What others should know:You will never regret the purchase. This thing rocks! - Things I liked:VERY Accurate!
Things I would have changed:Nothing.
What others should know:Spend a little time with a shooting rest to dial in the sights. Just bolting on the sights provided decent groups in the 8 ring. A few tweaks later and groups were smaller than a dime in the 10 ring. You can spend a lot more and get a more adjustable stock or better sights, but this one will shoot better than most people. Definitely a serious beginner to intermediate competition rifle. I was sweating getting an Edge or other 10 meter rifle and this was very satisfying for less money. - Things I liked:This gun has alot of versatility. It's great for multiple shooters.
Things I would have changed:It doesn't come with any accesories to charge the gun. Very disappointing! - Things I liked:Extremely accurate. Reasonably priced. Adjustable ergonomics to fit a variety of youths to adults. Good balance. The best trigger in the competition sporter air rifle category.
Things I would have changed:A better standard rear sight. A better selection of front sight aperture inserts.
What others should know:The new Challenger 2009 is miles better than Crosman's first effort with the Challenger 2000. It keeps the earlier rifle's adjustable ergonomics but adds a first rate trigger (for the category) and the highly accurate, German made Lothar-Walther barrel. While the trigger cannot be compared to a German Olympic level rifle, you would have to pay at least three times the price of this air rifle to get a better trigger. From a sand bag rest at ten meters, I've shot five pellet groups that look like only one pellet was fired at the target. This rifle likes premium German made ammo. I've gotten the best results with RWS Meisterkugeln and R-10s in the heavy, 8.2 grain weight. With compressed air, I can get 100-110 consistent shots. On CO2, I've gotten a bit more, 130-140 shots with a fill of 1.5 ounces. This rifle action can be taken apart from the stock with just one screw. The rifle will then fit in a short takedown shotgun case for easy storage and transport. This rifle will be competitive in Sporter competitions. - Things I liked:Great price for an entry-level 3-position rifle. Fired tight group straight from the box, easy trigger pull, stock is easy to adjust to the shooter.
Things I would have changed:Sights come from the factory uninstalled. I decided to locktite front and rear sights in place to maintain accuracy.
What others should know:CO2 fill is only 1000psi, limits shooting between refills to about 35-40 shots.CommentsBy pcp4me from USA on 2011-05-20 1 
See the review above yours. That gentleman gets the number of shots you should if everything is done correctly. Over 100 for air and even more with a full charge of LIQUID CO2!By Sean from USA on 2010-08-12 1 CO2 gas cannot produce more than 1070psi. Past that CO2 exists as a liquid or super-critical fluid. That's why there's a separate indicator on the gauge for CO2. The pressure remains constant as long as there is liquid CO2 in the tank. The limited shots you saw was not a problem with the gun.By Delwin from USA on 2010-05-04 3 In order to get more shots when using CO2, you have to load liquid CO2 into the rifle. You do this by first purging the internal tank to prechill it and then fill with liquid by use of either a siphon equippd bulk tank or, if using a paintball tank, by holding the tank inverted to feed liquid. I've gotten moe than 120 shots of consistent velocity this way.
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Overall rating:5 5.0
Value for money:4 4.0
Accuracy:5 5.0
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Things I would have changed:A better rear sight.
What others should know:I went to competition with this rifle, in my first year of shooting. I shot a 479 and got 9th in the state. now I am shooting 490-511.