H&N Rundkugel, .177 Reviews

Easy to load, very uniform in size and shape. Also, hard hitting and excellent penetration.

Price is a little too high.

These are not very accurate compared to regular pellets. Poor groupings on targets. These do not work in guns with bb magazines, such as the crosman 2100; they are to big and will not feed into the breech. For my use, these are not worth buying again.

Very uniform in size

they appear to be just a touch larger than the usual steel BBs. A steel BB will easily roll down the barrel but the lead BBs need an initial push into the barrel and then they don't easily roll down. this makes them work well in guns that normally use a magnet on the bolt to hold the BB in place.

consistent size. Too small

nothing. There must be a place for these.

Too small for my guns. I do recommend the 4.54 Dia. if you got the money. Or buy Gamo balls.

Round.

I can't say they are to small because they are just as decribed.4.50. That is to loose for me not enough compression. 4.54 perfect.

bought these mostly for fun and to see how they reacted to different guns. After shooting with them, i have ordered more.

the package says not to use these on pistols. as long as your watching out for slightly crushed or damaged ones everything works just fine, your pistol will shoot way slower though.

These are very well made and nicely round without dimples or flats.

Well, they are expensive. Yet compared to the Gamo Round Balls, the quality of these makes those appear to have been formed with some sort of peening process. I would rather have the quality than the inferior performance of out of round shot.

These measured .178" and weighed 8.5g rather than the 7.7 g listed. They are too large for a Daisy Model 25 with very slow velocity (dragging the bore?) and some double feeds. However, in a Crosman 2100 they gave me 673 fps velocity which was slightly higher than this rifle delivers with a pellet of like weight. I did not measure group size as I was plinking Sweet gum balls off the ground but I was hitting them consistently at up to 20 yards. The bottom line though is these offer little that can't be done with a more economical pellet.

- Accurate - Consistent weight and shape, I have gone through two boxes and no defective ones yet. - Tight lid for the box, does not come of that easy. - Leaves a wad cutter like hole in the targets with my Beeman RS2 and my Crossman 357w, a perfect circle, no tearing, In fact, I think the holes are a little crisper than with my normal wad cutters, probably because these do not wobble.

-Nothing

- Works GREAT with my Crossman 357w pistol, really accurate, great speed, the best round I have tried for this gun, excellent fit in the magazine. - Works Great with my Beeman RS2 air rifle, accurate, fits really snuggly in the barrel, one of the best rounds I have tried for it. - Does not work with my Baretta FS92 pistol - Jams up, even when the round balls are pushed a long way into the magazine. I don't know why, as they fit good and tight in the magazine, normal wad cutters works great.

Loading is easier, easier to carry without damage.

more for less

My Gamo Big Cat 1250 and Shadow 1000 love these, as good as any pellet in those guns. My Crosman 1377 not so much, i think you need a longer barrel for round balls. mine are 4.50mm, 7.7 grain

Accurate, good penetration and uniform. My Crossman 357 and Daisy 008 just eat these things up. In the 357 they are as accurart as any pellet and penetrate better than most.

I wish H&N would make these in .22 cal.

The lid can slip off the container. A bit of tape takes care of that. I sometimes use a pellet pouch.

I'm struggling to find anything I like. I shot Beeman rounds out of my Sheridan for years and loved them and was happy to find some to shoot through my RWS 34 Diana. REALLY disappointed, some fit tight some I thought would roll out, groups were non-existent.

Buying them

I do like some H&N pellets and this could be purely a "springer" problem? The Baracuda Match in 10.65 gr and the Silver Point in 11.57 gr are dead nuts accurate tearing same holes at 15 yrds

These fit a pellet gun they don't fall down the barrel like the others do...

They are high but you can see that.Must be a costly process to make.

Heavy weight packs more punch.

Coat with a ferrous metal compond so they will work with magnetic bolts.

These lead balls have heavier weight than the typical steel bb, so they hit harder. Unfortunately, being lead, they will not feed well in a airgun that uses a magnetic bolt, such as the Crosman Pumpmaster 760. You can steel use them, but risk the ball falling out of the barrel.

Nothing!

Inconsistent sizing; too soft; too costly.

Bought these on recommendations of other posters, but my batch is not at all uniform in size. They are generally larger than steel bbs or the Gamo lead balls, but instead of that being a plus for accuracy, tighter ones get stuck in the barrel. I thought they may be an easy loading ball for my Crosman pistol, but undersized ones roll out of the barrel. They are way too soft to tolerate the abuse of magazines like those of the Baikal Drozd or MP-654K.

everything! why did anyone waste time on inventing goofy pellets? THIS is how it should have been done in the first place. they shoot straighter and hit harder, period! I have a crossman 1077 co2 repeater and the differance is night and day. money and convenience aside THIS will be all i shoot. a hole at 25 yards you can cover with a quarter... 'nuff said ;)

More for the $ no the what you get inst a good deal but lets face it folks MORE is better :)

keep a rag handy to wipe the graphite off your fingers and dont eat snax while your shooting. (good advice for ANY weapon that shoots lead or graphite projectiles you have to handle)

Perfectly round. Perfectly measured.

PLEASE BRING BACK THE COPPER PLATED 4.5mm PRECISION BALLS. IF YOU OWN A DROZD OR DROZD BLACKBIRD AND TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS LIKE FILING DOWN A LITTLE OF THE BB PATH-THE COPPER PLATED VERSION OF THIS PRODUCT WILL TURN YOUR DROZD INTO A NEW GUN. MAJOR FIREPOWER!!!(with no lead fouling)

These lead balls actually work just about as well in the Drozd, just be sure to occasionally break in down and clean any lead accumulation(was not nearly as bad as I was expecting). The stock barrel in rifled, aftermarket Drozd barrels are rifled, this was and is the intended ammunition for this airgun. BB's ruin your barrel and a huge portion of your CO2 or HPA is blown right by the BB's threw the rifling. When the Drozd came out, making it bright yellow and having it be a "bb gun" were PR tactics used so now we can own fully automatic airguns firing 1200 8grain lead balls a minute traveling over 900 FPS. I would still love to have the copper plated back because, despite being produced by H&N, they are nearly impossible to find.

I've been a fan of H&N RundKugelns for quite a while. I like that you don't have to fumble around trying to get them seated perfectly, and their performance on a windy day is fantastic!, I prefer the copper coated ball's to the lead graphitized ball's, they don't turn your fingers black, and pellet lube adheres to the ball much better. With H&N, every ball is uniform, unlike other round ball offerings available on the market today. If you like H&N in .177, then you'll absolutely love them in .22!

Not a thang.

Guy's, don't forget to lube these ball's, you'll get more shot's in the black, especially when conditions aren't in your favour. In .22, these are great on any up-land bird applications as well as Turkey, they find a way through the feathers like no other pellet/ball available, even more so than a plastic tipped Predator. Cheer's, and Happy Huntin', Andy.

The easiest to load pellet you can buy for most guns. EASY TO LOAD MEANS MORE FUN TO SHOOT. accurate and the deepest penetration you can buy.

I do have one rifle they are hard to load.

They are the fastest and easiest to load pellets in most of my guns, this alone means I will buy the again and again since they also... They are very accurate and penetrate very deep. They cost only $.024 each. They are the hardest to damage of all pellets so every pellet in your tin will shoot great!!

Sell them in a smaller package to more people will try out these awesome pellets. Sell these in the regular Ammo section.

If you have a gun that is harder to load then you like you must give these a try, you will love them.

Best ball round available. Very uniform and has good penetration. Easier to follow-up a shot, no fumbling for the right end.

These lead bb's are far more superior than anything out there, size, roundness, consistency they have it all. I am glad to see that Pyramyd has them, nobody else has them in the .177 size

Have them coated, more selection on quantity and of course price.

Like good old Mikey said "Try them you'll like it".