Crosman Remington Model 1875 vs. Bear River Schofield

Crosman Remington Model 1875 vs. Bear River Schofield

BBs at 10 Paces!

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By Dennis Adler

It’s BBs at 10 paces, the new Crosman Remington Model 1875 (right) which fires either BB or pellet cartridges, and the Bear River Schofield, which at present, only fires BB cartridges. Both have smoothbore barrels. The Remington has an internal barrel length of 6-3/4 inches which gives it a slight edge over the Schofield’s 6-1/2 inch internal barrel. External barrel lengths are 7-1/4 inches for the Remington and 7.0 inches for the Schofield. The tests were done using Remington’s own plated steel BBs.

To wrap up this latest series on Western Airguns, it’s time to level the last playing field, and pit the new Crosman Remington Model 1875 and Bear River Schofield CO2 revolvers against each other; the number two and number three guns from the last test each shooting .177 caliber steel BBs. Since the Remington could shoot 4.5mm lead pellets as well, it was compared against the 7-1/2 inch Umarex Colt pellet model. The Schofield came up a distant third for accuracy with only BBs to send down range, however, the Remington is a dual cartridge pistol and fires either BB or pellet loading cartridges. Using the same cartridge design (but not same cartridge) as the Umarex Colt Peacemakers, either type of Remington round loads at the back of the cartridge, and Crosman is diligent in clearly marking the rims of the two different cartridges so there is no mistake in loading. Since both the Remington and Schofield have smoothbore barrels, the test distance will be shortened to 21 feet using the same style B-27 silhouette targets as the previous Colt, vs. Schofield vs. Remington test.

The Crosman BB shells (left) load by inserting the BB into the back of the cartridge as one would a primer. The Schofield uses a rubber hollow point bullet, with the BB pressed into the hollow point opening.

The ammunition choice is going to be different, this time both the Schofield and Remington will be firing Remington plated solid steel BBs. These come in a 6000 count bottle with a very clever Remington capital R cap that rotates open so BBs can be poured through the opening in the middle of the R. The gold colored plated steel BBs are Remington’s own brand, and the ideal choice for this latest comparison test with their new Model 1875 CO2 model.

The Remington Model 1875 is like a real cartridge revolver. A cowboy could check his gun by opening the loading gate, setting the hammer to half cock and rotating the cylinder. If the primer was good, the round hadn’t been fired. In this case, if the BB is there. With the Schofield airgun there is no easy way since the BBs are in the nose of the bullet. A sideways glace works (as in this photo) but if you open the action you can look down the back of the shells by rotating the cylinder, and if you see daylight you have an empty cartridge. On cartridge models the design made it easy to check by opening the action just enough to expose the back of the cylinder. 

From 21 feet, fired offhand with a two-handed hold for best accuracy, the Remington Model 1875 punched 12 shots in the X ring of the target for an overall spread of 1.75 inches, a best group of four overlapping at 0.625 inches, and best six shots spread over 1.25 inches, including the four overlapping shots, plus one to the left cutting the line and one in the red Shoot-N-C dot. The second group of six also measured 1.25 inches spreading across the top of the X ring. The accuracy with the Remington plated steel BBs proved nearly equivalent to firing lead wadcutter pellets from the Model 1875’s smoothbore barrel.

The Crosman Remington Model 1875 remained nearly as accurate with steel BBs as it was in the previous test with lead wadcutter pellets. Two six round groups in the X at 21 feet measured 1.75 inches. A best group of four overlapping at 0.625 inches just off the left corner of the red Shoot-N-C dot, one to the left cutting the line and one in the red dot split 1.25 inches.

The Remington is a very consistent single action revolver. With either lead or steel it hits the target roughly three quarters of an inch above POA from 21 to 25 feet. It is not as precise as the 7-1/2 inch rifled barrel Peacemaker, but its accuracy is nothing to be ashamed of. If this gun had a rifled barrel, it would most likely be the equal of the Colt. If you’re a Remington fan (or just want to have one of each gun), the Crosman Remington Model 1875 is a standup six-shooter.

The Bear River Schofield in nickel, or the hand engraved model (shown), is authentic to the original S&W design, with only minor variances, whereas the Remington has oversized grips. All three guns (Colt, Schofield and Remington) get a pass on the mandatory manual safety selector, but the Schofield hides it best. It also has less ornate artwork compared to the Crosman Remington Model 1875, and its cooler (cooler as in color tone not cooler in comparison), silver hue is the more visually striking of the two guns. The Schofield also has the edge on both the Colt and Remington when it came to loading, ejecting spent shells, and reloading. Quick draw with the Schofield is, shall we say, an acquired taste compared to the relative ease with which a Colt or Remington clears leather and is cocked, but is a smooth gun to shoot.

The Schofield did not fare as well depositing 12 shots over 2.25 inches, with two BBs just cutting the edge of the X ring on either side, and a best six shots measuring 1.25 inches. Winner Remington.

With Remington’s plated steel BBs pressed into the rubber bullet nose of the Schofield cartridges, the revolver delivered its 12 shots on target with a spread of 2.25 inches, with two BBs just cutting the edge of the X ring to barely have all 12 in the X with a best six at 1.25 inches. This is just a little wider grouping than the previous test against the Remington and Colt where the Schofield averaged 1.75 inches and a best six at 1.25 inches. I ran a second and third test of the gun to see if there were any inconsistencies; the second test came up with nearly the same total spread, as did the third.

The Schofield has looks, balance, speed, but not quite the accuracy. The Crosman Remington Model 1875 retains its number 2 position among the three single action Western revolvers. And while it may not be quite as attractive as the Schofield, it certainly out shoots it.

Single Action airguns provide the look, feel and operation of their cartridge-firing counterparts and this is one reason why they have become so popular. Airguns in general all look like guns, these two Western models even more so, and it is important to remember that the vast majority of people can’t tell an airgun from a cartridge gun. Never brandish an airgun in public. Always, and I can never stress this enough, always treat an airgun as you would a cartridge gun. The same manual of operation and safety should always apply.

13 thoughts on “Crosman Remington Model 1875 vs. Bear River Schofield”

  1. Well fair is as fair does. A little surprised at the groups of the Schofield, since mine shoots smaller groups. Still the old Top Break got a fair chance and came in third. Sorry to make extra work for you ,it must have been torture to shoot those fine looking revolvers again!

  2. Do you think the difference in how the cartridges are loaded has any bearing on accuracy? Is it possible that the rear loaded cartridges of the Remington act as barrel extensions imparting increased velocity, or increasing stability thereby improving accuracy?

    • You raise an excellent question. It has been my theory, though I have not had the time to develop any empirical evidence; that BB and pellet shells that load from the rear are more accurate than those that load into a plastic bullet in the nose of the cartridge. My reasoning, however, is simply that with the BB or pellet at the rear of the cartridge (in the same position as the primer in a centerfire round) they receive the full force of the CO2 charge at the moment of firing, while cartridges that load from the nose require theCO2 to travel the length of the cartridge (thus expanding to fill the vacuum) and deliver less direct force to the BB or pellet. To what, if any degree this affects accuracy I can’t say, but from my experience, I have continually found the Umarex Colt Peacemakers, which load from the rear of the shell (both smoothbore BB and rifled barrel pellet models), to be extremely accurate. This was proven out to some degree by today’s test of the Remington Model 1875 which uses the rear loading shells and Schofield, which uses front loading rounds.

      • I had considered that possibility, but the Webley that uses the load from the front shells is very accurate. It is also possible with the load from the rear type cartridges that differences in depth of seating as well as thickness of the rubber grommet can affect accuracy. You will see every once in awhile tight groups with one flyer out in left field.

        • That random round occurs more often than not with BB and pellet cartridge revolvers. I attribute some to human error (shooting offhand rather than from a rest) and some to your supposition about seating the BB or pellet. A BB and pellet cartridge test is certainly in order to find an answer.

      • wonder what would happen if they rifled the rear loading pellet cartridges? That could stabilize and spin the pellets for additional accuracy. Some of the 22 lr cartridge conversions use a short 2 1,/2 barrel and than send the 22 5 inchesof oversize 375barrel. The accuracy is surprisingly good. Wonder if that would work the same in a 177 smooth bore.

        • Not sure that would work but it would make for more costly pellet cartridges as each would have to use a .177 caliber rifled steel insert. And there is still the gap from the end of the cartridge and cylinder to the forcing cone between the barrel breech and cylinder. Interesting thought.

  3. I believe that accuracy is improved in center fire rifles by seating the projectile closer to the rifling, although with both pistols being smooth bore I don’t know if that is a consideration. It definitely doesn’t bear out in today’s results

    • That is true, but the difference in ignition sources, combustion of gun powder and forces generated by the expanding gasses are somewhat different from the force of CO2 on a projectile. With a centerfire (or rimfire) cartridge, the bullet is seated inside the shell case and the combustion gasses push it directly into the barrel where the bullet engages the rifling. The gasses behind the bullet are continually expanding until they reach the muzzle, hit the atmosphere (the big bang and recoil) and the bullet travels downrange. With the BB or pellet cartridges, the theory is the same with the CO2 gas pushing the projectile, but it is my feeling that the sooner the air gets behind the projectile the better. Until I can perform an actual comparative test between two equal airguns and cartridges, it will just be an opinion supported only by my target results. The respective rounds need to be chronographed and accuracy assured by shooting comparable airguns from a rest. If rear loaded BBs and pellets out perform front loaded ones, then that will be the proof.

  4. I think you meant attribute instead of contribute in your reply to lawman. But who am I to cast the first stone, considering my remedial punctuation skills.

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