Sig Sauer’s new M17 Part 6

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Training Day

By Dennis Adler

The Sig Sauer P320 M17 was taken to task in a training simulation and delivered on center mass accuracy from multiple shooting positions. The rifled steel barrel and pistol operation make the M17 suitable for training out to actual combat distances of 15 yards (45 feet), which is generally pushing the limits for a blowback action CO2 powered pellet pistol.

This is what the P320 M17 ASP is built to do, allow real world training with a pellet-firing blowback action CO2 pistol at actual close quarter combat distances. I shot this entire final test at a minimum of 45 feet from the Law Enforcement Targets cardboard B-27 silhouette. This target provides a center mass area of 6×9 inches containing the 9, 10 and X rings. Any hits inside that area and the 8 ring score 5 points.

The M17 ASP has an internal barrel length of 4.68 inches and a sight radius of 6.6 inches. Shooting tests were shot from various positions such as dropping to one knee (shown), lying down and shooting up at the target, from a kneeling position at right and left angles to the target, and moving from left to right firing in short bursts.

Shooting exercises

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I ran several training exercises including drawing and firing (from a UTG tactical vest holster); shooting short bursts from a kneeling position at right and left angles to the target (noted as RA and LA on the target); I practiced reloads, dropping and rolling over onto one side to fire from a ground level position (noted as prone on the target), moving across the target’s path and rapid firing (indicated by either RF or M on the target). All shots were fired using a two handed hold. I expended two CO2 cartridges and the overall test consisted of 80 rounds of H&N Sport Match Green alloy pellets and two B-27 targets. The ambient temperature for the field test was 49 degrees with no wind.

Part of the training exercise was rapid reloading and the CO2 pellet magazine was easy to drop while pulling a fresh magazine from the UTG tactical vest mag pouch. I let the empty magazine fall to the ground (on grass not pavement) and there was no damage. They fall straight down so the heavy injection molded base pad absorbs any impact on soft ground.

For the 45 foot shooting test I used the lighter 5.25 gr. H&N Match Green alloy wadcutters, which were the best option at this extended range (although the 5.25 gr. Sig Sauer Match Ballistic alloy pellets have also delivered 45 foot accuracy in tests with the earlier P320 ASP models.

Quick reloading is not impeded by the extended length of the 20 round pellet clip and the magazine slaps right in.

Shooting the M17 ASP at 45 feet is pushing the accuracy with a blowback action pellet pistol but the Sig delivered hits that are equivalent to passing accuracy at that distance with a 9mm M17 (a comparison test I will be doing later on in the year with the M17). The real advantage in using this pistol for training is the actual feel of the gun in the hand, which is identical to the centerfire model, sighting with the white dot sights, the slide movement and moderate felt recoil, and consistency of the DAO trigger pull. The only thing missing is heavier recoil, a much louder bang and 9mm ammo. The Sig Sauer air pistol passed in every category and I came away with a best test target that placed at least 50 percent of the rounds fired within the 9, 10 and X from multiple shooting positions. The windage was close to center (pulling slightly left) and elevation required aiming at the 9 ring to drop shots into the 10 and X. Most were fired at one- to three-second intervals except on rapid fire tests and double taps (DT on the target). After each specific test I circled and labeled each test group so additional shots could be easily distinguished.

Shooting straight into the B-27 target from 45 feet most of my shots were in the 10 and X ring.

I kept my shot count to no more than 50 rounds per CO2 cartridge to reduce lower velocity shots. You can also feel a change in the slide’s recoil and the sound of the M17 when CO2 begins to run low. There were zero failures during the entire test using one gun and two magazines.


You don’t have to go to the lengths I do to test these CO2 air pistols, or wear tactical gear to enjoy the M17, even 45 feet from the target, but I do it to see if the gun is up to the challenge of training use, and the Sig Sauer P320 M17 ASP is right in step with models like the Umarex S&W M&P40 as an actual hands on 1:1 training gun. And it has the advantage of being a 4.5mm pellet pistol rather than a BB pistol. For all the M&P40’s virtues of authentic handling to the centerfire model, you could not use the smoothbore BB pistol for any degree of accuracy training at 45 feet.

The Law Enforcement Targets B-27 silhouette is a heavy cardboard version of the paper B-27 targets used for training (among various training targets used today by law enforcement and the military) and it has a 6×9 inch vertical center encompassing the 9, 10 and X rings. Along with the 8 ring, any hits in this center mass area score 5 points. I placed 40 shots on the target from various shooting positions, rapid fire and moving, with about 50 percent inside the 9, 10 and X.

The M17 isn’t in a class by itself as a training gun (except for the magazine) but it is definitely on the brink of becoming this year’s class valedictorian. And there is more to come from Sig Sauer!

The Airgun Experience will return on Tuesday, November 5th with a classic Ruger design.

5 thoughts on “Sig Sauer’s new M17 Part 6”

  1. Nice workout. For some reason now I feel like watching Sean Connery in The Rock. Surprised at the accuracy out to 15 yards. Might have to push the envelope and see what a Peacemaker will do that range. Wonder what the Ruger will be ?I had just sent a tell the ceo email to Ruger suggesting that they get serious with their airguns . Suggested a Blackhawk Single Action , Redhawk and SP 101 da revolvers, MarkIV blowback co2 Target Pistol, and aRuger PC9 co2 rifle

  2. Hi everyone, been following the blog for quite some time; nice content, super nice people! As I read the things people like on the SS M17 airgun, I can’t help thinking how much ahead of its time was the Umarex Beretta Px4 storm. Blowback that actually cocks the hammer, effectively lightening the last trigger stage, providing quite a kick too; pellet and rifled barrel affording decent accuracy for an action pistol; 6 o’clock hold calibrated sights. Has been proven very reliable; no missfires, even with 4.51 pellets to alleviate the wee wide pellet chambers in the rotary mag. For a fun plinker, it provides the full package. Only drawbacks from a training perspective would be the stick mag and separate CO2 loading mechanism, spoiling the realistic reload routine. In this field, the Sig Sauer M17 airgun sets the example. I second all you kind fellows that hope for a response from Umarex’s (or any other airgun manufacturer’s for that matter) RnD departments willing to pick up the gauntlet!

  3. This Pistol is a beast and not for any sort of CCW. Too heavy for a paddle I would imagine that only something similar to the US army issue would make it comfortable for all day wear. There is also the magazine by which I mean the whole assembly. There does not yet seem to be a mag holster which is designed to hold it. If it is going to be used for tactical training such a holster is essential.

    • Derek, at this point the pistol fits a number of holsters but still no mag pouches. The CO2 magazines do fit in a tactical vest mag pouch, as I am wearing in the article. When I get a chance I am going to look at mag pouches for other large caliber pistols and see if anything works and report back to you all.


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