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FWB 110 recoiling target rifle: Part 4

FWB 110
FWB 110.

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

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This report covers:

  • The test
  • Sight-in
  • RWS R10 Heavy
  • Qiang Yuan Olympic
  • Qiang Yuan Match
  • RWS Hobby
  • H&N Match Green
  • Back to the R10 Match Heavy
  • Summary

Today we continue accuracy testing the FWB 110 recoiling target rifle. This test will set us up for the next step with this rifle, which is a reseal and lube, and also for testing against other recoiling 10-meter target rifles.

The test

I shot from a sandbag rest at 10 meters from the target. This time I rested the rifle just in front of the triggerguard, as was mentioned in the comments to Part 3. Some other shooters said they got their best results that way.

I also used my prescription glasses instead of my reading glasses for this test. I noticed the other day that the front sight seemed clear through them.

I shot 5-shot groups.

Sight-in

I started with RWS R10 Match Heavy pellets, and, because I felt the rifle was already sighted in from the last test, I just started shooting. Wrong! The first group landed above the bull. All in all it took 15 shots to get the pellets hitting the center of the bull again. Part of that was me adjusting the rear sight the wrong way — twice! The German directions that say bei H (for hoch which is German for high) or bei T (which is German for I don’t know what, but it means down). Bei is a German preposition meaning “at” but when it relates to sights, substitute the English word “too”. So, if the pellet strikes too high for you, then adjust the knob toward the H, because the pellet is striking too high.

Maybe reader Stephan can clear this up for us/me. I always thought the T stood for tur or tür, but that means door. I’m missing something.

There are “experts” on the internet who will tell you that German target sights adjust just like American ones, so forget the directions and just adjust as you normally would. These people have apparently never encountered sights that adjust backwards of most American sights. But I have, so I pay attention to the directions on the knobs.

When I figured everything out I was able to zero the R10 Heavy pellets.  Once that happened I didn’t touch the sights for the rest of the test.

RWS R10 Heavy

The first group was shot with RWS R10 Heavy pellets that we discovered in the last test were accurate in the FWB 110. Five went into a group measuring 0.194 inches between centers.

R10 Match Heavy group 1
Five RWS R10 Match Heavy pellets made a 0.194-inch group at 10 meters.

Qiang Yuan Olympic

I shot the Qiang Yuan Olympic pellets next. Five of them went into 0.122-inches, which is the smallest group of this test. It earns the gold dollar for size comparison.

Chinese Olympic group
The FWB 110 put five Qiang Yuan Olympic pellets into this 0.122-inch group at 10 meters.

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Qiang Yuan Match

Next to be tried were five Qiang Yuan Match pellets. The 110 put them into a group that measures 0.281-inches between centers. Isn’t it interesting that going from one Chinese pellet to another by the same manufacturer makes such a difference? And I wasn’t tiring out. Not yet, anyhow.

Chinese Match group
Five Qiang Yuan Match pellets went into 0.281-inches at 10 meters.

RWS Hobby

Next I tried some RWS Hobby pellets. Sometimes Hobbys can be surprisingly accurate and this was one of those times. Five went into 0.161-inches at 10 meters. It’s the second-smallest group of today’s test, and it also demonstrates that BB wasn’t getting tired on that last target.

Hobby group
The 110 put five RWS Hobbys into a 0.161-inch group at 10 meters.

H&N Match Green

The last pellet I tested was the H&N Match Green. Last time Sig Match Ballistic Alloy pellets didn’t do so well, but I also had wanted to try these. So, today was the day. The FWB put five of them into a 0.192-inch group that is worthy of the trime.

HN Match Green group
Five H&N Match Green pellets made this 0.192-inch group at 10 meters.

Back to the R10 Match Heavy

I shot a final group of RWS R10 Match Heavy pellets, just to cap off the test. Every shot was held perfectly, but when I saw the group I knew my shooting was over. Five pellets went into 0.525-inches at 10 meters.

R10 Heavy group
Five R10 Match Heavy pellets made this final 0.525-inch group. Old BB is done for this day!

Summary

The FWB 110 is proving to be quite accurate, though not as accurate as my FWB 300S. I think after I reseal and tune it I’ll test the velocity again and then see if the accuracy changes. After that I’m thinking of pitting this rifle against all my other recoiling target rifles. That should be an interesting series of its own!

39 thoughts on “FWB 110 recoiling target rifle: Part 4”

  1. BB,

    Was this the first rifle you tested for the day or were there other rifles tested before this? I’m not going to expect a marked increase in accuracy after the tune but I will expect it to feel better while shooting.

    Siraniko

  2. B.B,

    “Part of that was me adjusting the rear sight the wrong way — twice! The German directions that say bei H (for hoch which is German for high) or bei T (which is German for I don’t know what, but it means down). Bei is a German preposition meaning “at” but when it relates to sights, substitute the English word “too”.”
    Bei, can also be translated as WHEN.

    “T” is Tief which can be translated as depressed or Low.

    English is shootski’s second language.

    As far as your shooting…sehr gute geschossen!

    shootski

  3. B.B.,
    Being a native German speaker, I confirm what Shootski says. “T”stands for “tief” or “low”.
    What you said is also correct, “H” stands for “hoch”, translated “high”, „bei“ means „at“ in direct translation, but for sight adjustments it makes more sense to substitute with „too” or “if”.

    Papa Schultz

      • Hi everybody,

        seems I’m late to the party 🙂

        What others have said is correct. You can read “bei T” and “bei H” as “if low” or “if high”.

        If you want to get technical, “bei hoch” is not something we would say, so I always read that as “bei Hochschuss” (in case of high shots). The capital letters seem to indicate a noun instead of an adjective as well.
        A page from the 300S manual confirms this 🙂

        By they way, very respectable results for a recoiling rifle! Also interesting how well the RWS Hobbies did. I’m getting a tin of those next time I order stuff…

        Schöne Grüße,
        Stephan

  4. BB,

    I for one do not care what the translations are. I am just wanting to get on with this air rifle. Now I will have to wait until at least Monday before we go in. Then there is no telling how long you will drag this comparison testing out. (sigh)

  5. “After that I’m thinking of pitting this rifle against all my other recoiling target rifles. That should be an interesting series of its own!”
    B.B.,
    I think that would make for a great series; this li’l gal may be a recoiler, but she can sure shoot. 🙂
    Also, I think it’s really cool that this blog is so well-read around the world that native speakers can weigh in on translation issues.
    (Seriously; I have seen other blogs where people, who all don’t know anything other than what they have googled, argue about the meaning of a word or phrase from another language; to me, that detracts from the blog. However, thanks to shootski and Papa Schultz, we get the word straight up, and I really appreciate that; it’s just one more reason why B.B.’s blog is such a great place to hang out…because of all the cool people. =>).
    Take care & God bless,
    dave

  6. Airgunning and language lessons all in one place – what more can one ask? Learning to speak a language fluently is also quite fun; FM knows. He speaks English, he learned it from a boooook!

    • Sr. Manuel:

      I speak a moderate amount of Spanish and a bit less German. Enough of both to appreciate the time and effort it takes to become proficient in a second (or third!) language. My salutes to you, Herr Shootski und Herr Schultz!

      Motorman
      St. Louis, MO

      • Motorman,

        I am very much a Retired Mr. shootski these days. The last time i was a Mister before now was as an Ensign in the US Navy…then I became a Sir for the rest of my career. The Navy did give me a chance to be home based for duty tours in Spain twice and in Germany once…and to fly all over this Earth to include, Round the World, and to actually visit many, many places in all of the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
        I consider myself blessed to have learned Spanish, Latin, French (poorly,) some Italian, some Greek and little kid level Hungarian from my Mom.

        shootski

          • FM
            Let me see here. All poor old Gunfun1 knows how to speak is English.

            But I don’t even have to speak and my dog understands. Thinking more. Same with my kids and even my wife. Well at work and so on. It’s all in the eyes. 😉

        • All four of my wife’s grandparents were born in Hungary. Although born in the US, her parents spoke Hungarian at home. My wife spoke Hungarian before she spoke English. I’ve learned a few words, but it’s a tough language for a native English speaker! I am, however, fluent in Hungarian food!!!

          Motorman
          St. Louis, MO

          • Motorman,
            I fully understand why you are fluent in Magyar cuisine! I love Palacsinta filled with Ham and cheesy white sauce then baked along with my Split Pea Soup.
            After my Hungarian Goulash, heavy on the Paprika, and a few bottles of excellent Zinfandel my Magyar Nyelv gets much better! More GARLIC and Onions; especially in Onion Pie!
            I can’t believe how few folks know of the Hungarian kitchens SUPERIORITY to the French who cover everything in sauce to hide the ????

            shootski

  7. B.B., happy Friday. Appreciate the number of pellets tested. I look forward to this series.

    I am planning on getting the following for the family: Crosman Mark I for my 13 yr old Daughter to use (on your suggestion), Avanti 753S for my crack shot 12 year old daughter to use (she’s improving steadily with the Embark and can keep all her shots in the black at 10 yards), and a Red Ryder Buck for my 8 yr old son and the Adult Version for me or my wife, and a supply of Dust Devil BBs to reduce ricochets in the basement range.

    My father in loves the R9 in .22, but he has trouble focusing on the sights. So I will likely need to get a scope for him and mount it for him. In the meantime, I will supply him with some targets, a can of ballistol and my plastic storage bin rubber mulch trap.

  8. Check this out. People who have the Bug A Salt might be interested.
    It’s a I Phone adapter. I actually did some shooting with a scope I Phone adapter on my air guns.

    I took videos with my air guns but you could also stop the video when you play back to take
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  9. B.B. & Readership,

    Happy Halloween (Blessings to all who celebrate All Hallows’ Eve)

    On a more serious airgun note the DAQ .410 Camp & Garden Shot Pistol arrived yesterday. Dennis has improved his already acceptable packing of shipments with fitted styrofoam inside a well constructed box; I suspect this is to ward off the horrors perpetrated by modern shipping company behaviors. The metal machining, polishing and hot salts blueing continues to be up to DAQ standards.
    The six brass shotshell hulls included are custom made and not from Brazil. Dennis included a few wads/cups as well as overshot cards. The only area that differs from one of his previous PCP pistols is the smooth bore barrel with a brass bead for the front sight and a grooved receiver as the rear sight. There is No Bolt as such. The entire barrel acts as the BOLT. The bolt handle rotates up and then the barrel slides forward to open the loading port to allow insertion of the shotshell.
    Filling is by a standard Quick Disconnect (QD) Foster type fitting at the front of the 3,000 PSI airtube. The pistol grip frame is the newer Crosman version.
    I am gathering ammo as well as shotshell components to start testing. Sadly the shotgunning World seems to be having similar supply problems just like the rest of the shooting sports! It may be some time before significant testing can commence :^(

    Let’s Go Brandon!

    shootski

  10. Hi,
    Your original 110 post inspired me to get one from Germany a few years back.
    I’ve made a video review with a side by side accuracy comparison with the 150 if you are interested:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5kRyHqotUs
    I contacted Feinwerkbau and they confirmed that mine was made in 1965, and that only 180 mod. 110’s were ever made. That’s extremely low numbers, and as a cheaper alternative to the 150 I don’t think they were particularly cherished or well looked after.
    I have only ever seen one other come up for sale in Germany and it was a very well used club gun.

    My 150 was also made in 1965 and neither of them have an adjustable butt pad.
    Apparently some 110’s have a 150 stock fitted, the 110 stock has no cutout on the top, at the back behind the cylinder, but the 150 stock does.

    Glad you found one, they are really nice rifles to shoot.
    I have a few old 10m match rifles, but the 110 is my favourite.

    Thanks,
    Matt

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