This report covers:
- Why trust older firearms?
- TalonSS
- FWB P44
- Contrast
- Last PCP comment
- Spring-piston
- Don’t care for
- Final word
The other day I told my neighbor, Denny, about a gun store in Ft. Worth that I thought was great. As I described it he finally recognized the store and said, “That store is full of older guns. You like it because you like older guns the best.” I guess I do. But why? I think it’s because of trust.
Why trust older firearms?
Why do I trust older firearms? Here is a good reason. They have stood the test of time
The M1911 Colt semiautomatic has certainly stood the test of time. It worked in 1911 and it still works today. Yes it is all-steel and only has a single-stack magazine, but the .45 automatic Colt pistol (ACP) cartridge is so effective at stopping a threat that additional rounds are only necessary for additional targets. No, I don’t want to be hit with a modern 9mm defense round but the .45 ACP has been doing the same for over a century. The 9mm round needed technological advances to get to where it is today.
My 1911 Colt was made in 1918 and all modern 1911 parts will still fit it today.
And I trust the older materials. Steel just seems to be great for firearms. That said I will not dispute the fact that a Glock with its plastic frame reinforced with steel inserts has outlasted the 1911 as much as 5 times in actual tests. In March of 1911 the Colt 1911 passed a 6,000-round firing test without a failure. By contrast, some Glock pistols have fired 100,000 rounds without a failure, and 30,000 rounds of failure-free service is common.
That started me thinking about the airguns I like the best. They are the ones that always work. They never fail. They are the airguns I can count on. They are usually made from traditional materials like wood and steel, or in the case of AirForce Airguns, aluminum. Let’s start there.
TalonSS
I have written about the phenomenal reliability of the AirForce TalonSS. Owners of the rifle have written comments agreeing with what I have said. The TalonSS is the anvil of the precharged pneumatic (PCP) world. It almost always works and will do what it was designed for. Nothing made by man is perfect, so of course there must be issues with some of these airguns. I have never seen a TalonSS failure personally and I have handled hundreds of them in my life — mostly as an employee of AirForce for three years. Yet reader RidgeRunner told us that his AirForce Edge target rifle leaked until he oiled it, so nothing lasts forever.
My TalonSS is 24 tears old and has never failed.
FWB P44
For some reason my FWB P44 target pistol has never leaked and it is older than many of my non-AirForce PCP rifles. Could it be the fact that the P44 has a single o-ring sealing the air tank — just like all AirForce rifles? I’m inclined to think so.
My FWB P44 is another PCP that’s never let me down.
Contrast
In sharp contrast every other non-AirForce PCP rifle I own has leaked air for one reason or another. And most of them are only two to four years old. You know this to be true because I have written extensively about it this year. I am learning about the extra care these airguns need, and when they get it they function fine. So most PCPs need maintenance and continuous care but AirForce PCPs just last.
To be completely honest I did recently take another party’s GunPower Stealth to the AirForce plant for a reseal. A Stealth was made by AirForce for the United Kingdom and is similar to the older Talon model. This one was about 25 years old. So, nothing manmade is perfect.
Last PCP comment
It’s common these days for PCPs to be sold as Gen 1, Gen 2 and so on. I would caution buyers to consider that if a company sells anything as Gen 1 they have plans to upgrade it. In sharp contrast AirForce was able to restore the 25-year-old GunPower Stealth with modern parts because, although there have been numerous improvements over the years, nearly everything in their lineup is backwardly compatible! That’s very much like my M1911 that Colt made in the year 1918. I can still buy parts for it today. I wonder whether most Gen 5 Glock parts fit Gen 1 guns as well. The chat forums seem to indicate they might not.
Spring-piston
What about the world of spring-piston airguns? Well, the failures there are quite different than those in the pneumatic world but springers sometimes do fail. Where springers fail most often is when their coiled steel mainsprings take a cant and the guns begin vibrating harshly. And the gas spring guns do leak down. But there are models that I consider superior in the springer world. You already know what I’m about to say, don’t you?
The Air Arms TX200 Mark III is the top spring-piston airgun I know of. It is reasonably powerful and simple to repair if things go bad. I highly recommend it.
Air Arms TX200 Mark III.
I recently tested a Weihrauch 97K and discovered it to be a superior air rifle, too. In fact, speaking of Weihrauch, all their breakbarrel springers are worthy of mention as well. And we have certainly looked at a lot of them this year.
Don’t care for
What I do not care for are the springers that are made for the purpose of sheer power and velocity. They have a harsh firing cycle and are usually fitted with substandard triggers.
I also don’t care for springers that are sold on the basis of quirky designs. I’m too much of a traditionalist for things that lie outside the bounds of standard design. That doesn’t mean I can’t adapt to something new if there is a real benefit, but if all that’s different is a quirky design, it’s not for me.
Final word
I said in RidgeRunner’s guest blog about his new .20-caliber Condor that AirForce modified the valve for their .177 Condors, but I said it also worked with the .22-caliber Condors. In the comments reader Bob M showed a note from the AirForce website that says the air tank (with valve) for the .177 Condor is ONLY for that rifle (The Pyramyd website lists the tank as being right for ther .20-caliber rifle, too). That tank will work on all other calibers but velocity will be lost. And, if you add a .177 caliber barrel to a Condor, you also need to add a .177-caliber air tank/valve.
I forgot all that when I wrote my comments at the end of RidgeRunner’s report. The .177 barrel is so restrictive to airflow that AirForce had to create a special valve with greater closing force to work with that caliber. I remember building valves with much greater return spring rates to work specifically with .177 Condors. Sorry I misled you, but I forgot. Thanks, Bob M.
I can vouch that a .177 Condor tank will power the other calibers quite nicely, thanks! I measured over 70ft# in .25, and that is with a 24gr pellet. I did change the Ring-loc orifice to the biggest, 0.232, power wheel maxxed out. Heck, with a heavy pellet it might reach 80ft#.
On the other end, the lowest I can consistently get in .177 is around 7 ft#, with the Ring-loc 0.070 orifice and removing the hammer weight. Otherwise it’s the same tank, with over a 10-fold power range!
Someday I’ll get a “good” springer and know what you’re all talking about…
For a good springer that won’t break the bank, look at Cometa. For under $300, you can get a decent tuned springer.
Mike,
Wow! That’s good to know!
BB
I totally agree with the points made in the article above, well, to be honest about non PCP units. I’ve never and will likely never own a PCP.
My main experience has been with RWS/Diana, a Beeman P-1/Weirauch 45 pistol, a couple of Crosman rifles (one working and one dead – the .22 pumper needs a reseal), and three Hatsans (a .25 Cal M-135 and two pistols). My favorites are the RWS/Dianas as steady workhorses in the arsenal, and the Beeman P-1 Pistol (the “Holy Grail” of air pistols according to Tom Gaylord).
We severe exceptions of the UMAREX Trevox and the Benjamin Nitro Trail, which are terrible, in my opinion, my springers and few gas rams just keep going and going and going. Each one took some time and tins of pellets to discern their peculiarities, but once done, it’s been a simple process of regular maintenance and consistent holds when shooting.
At 77 with an history of serious cancer manifestations, the worst thing to deal with has been vision changes over time – particularly with the pistols. I came to the conclusion that, particularly after cataract surgery and pseudophakia (lens implants), the trusted iron pistol sights had to give their places to low power pistol scopes. At least the changes over time force one to continue to grow in the shooting disciplines, and having the optical help of the pistol scope boosts one’s confidence that cataracts and nystagmus don’t necessarily mean one can’t keep wadcutters in the black at 10 meters.
The one thing I have paid increasing attention to as I adapt along is trigger safety. My older and most faithful arms all have tens of thousands of rounds in their individual histories. Tens of thousands. In particular my P-1/Wierauch 45, taught me that sometimes you have to INCREASE the resistance to left off in order to protect the ceiling and drywall! The self-polishing of the triggers and restraining barbs, or sears, can made them extremely LIGHT.
Indeed, I’d like Brother Tom to consider a potential article on this very thing! The “SENIOR TRIGGER and YOU!” There’s always some ongoing communication about refining a trigger, lubing it and setting it up to be MORE RESPONSIVE about new guns, but there is silence about a trigger that gets so smooth that it becomes, in point of fact, dangerous. In trigger evaluations of new pieces, there will be comments about the feel of the late first or the second stage point of let off – as well there should be, and how to adjust them for more subtle function. But….
Yet, I remember denting a air duct over the shooting table, and putting unintended rounds into the cement backer walls in the ballistic closet that took me a while to understand were NOT simply ME, but a trigger that became too light – WAY TOO LIGHT.
Fortunately, none of these Zepher-light let offs were pointed at flesh, neither mine nor anyone else’s. The P-1 was the piece that exceedingly taught me that a three of decades and dozens and dozens and dozens of tins of pellets means that those disengaging and sliding trigger parts and piston sears become extremely slippery with time and self-polish. Even the slightest bit of RWS blue lube just makes things no longer lubricated but unstable to the point that I re-read the owners manual and INCREASED the trigger resistance to regain predictability and SAFETY.
Is it time for an article on Senior Air Arms? I think so with some technical counsel in order to keep the shooter and any observers (and the air ducts and drywall) safe from harm!
Again, maybe it is time for an article on AGING TRIGGERS? When should one begin to do a “study” on each elder weapon? What should one look for as a diagnostic check off pattern? Is there a relationship between the number of pellet tins (select a tin count standard?), and when one should do a purposed and detailed evaluation of the trigger function?
ALSO, in springers, that likely would include attention to the sear hook up in the cocking cycle – although I’ve not had finicky lock up problems with any of my springs or gas rams. That might be partially unintentionally off set by my ALWAYS keeping a hand on the cocking levers until I KNOW that the sear is kept soundly in the piece.
In other words, Tom, and techs at Pyramyd Air, is it time for a safety article on Distinguished Elders in the gun locker? Using a spring or ram air arm is a thoroughly enjoyable way to spend a snowy winter season in one’s basement range, but pinching a finger in the breach, shooting a piece of the basement, or putting a hole in the walls of the ballistic closet instead of the Champion Trap isn’t my idea of anything fun nor safe.
What do you think of an article attentive to “senior air arms” – their care and proper relationships?
LFranke,
You just defined Monday’s report! 😉
BB
LFrank
Obviously looking at the changes our older air guns experience would be a great article subject. But from your comment, one might believe you also would like to see one covering the changes we older shooters have to deal with.
I know that even tho I try mightily, I do not hold my air guns ( nor my powder burners) quite the same way as I once did. I suppose that it is more obvious to others than to ourselves, but that is simply the result of our aging bodies rather than our forgetfulness.
Hence our more frequent use of bipods, lead sleds, shooting bags, not to mention optics. Most anything to take our bodies out of the equation. But, maybe it’s just me. But it does seem to me that we have our share of viewers of this blog who are past the three quarter of a century mark. I doubt I am alone.
Ed
You have underscored realities about the decline of our bodies, in particular our neurological control over our muscles and response to environmental cues as well as sensorium. More concentration is needed for each shot land cognition to control the less controlled variables. The set focal points of lens implants, for example, after cataract surgery means more attention to positioning with respect to the air arm than before. Owning better optics becomes increasingly important as one ages, or so it seems.
Given the likely increased age of PA customers, a discussion of compensating techniques and technology is a good thing. My peeps tend to end up with Merit Discs replacing the set apertures of the stock Williams Peeps. It’s a small thing, but an important thing. My scopes have adjustable focal lengths as well as optical powers. The days of shooting feral pigeons in my late uncles’ barns over open iron sights with a Benjamin Comp rifle are long since over for more reasons than the passing of my parents’ generation.
The discipline of shooting, however, remains, in my opinion, an healthy thing to maintain as one ages. It requires that we focus attention, coordinate movements, calculate variables and thus exercise far more than just the physical tasks of target shooting. It forces us to practice mental tasks that are quite complicated and have clearly defined aims and outcomes. Most of shooting is, in the end, a cognitive exercise – a mental process – that requires neurological/mental exercise. That’s a good thing as most people rust out, they don’t wear out; thus keeping mentally engaged in difficult tasks and doing them is a good thing.
“…thus keeping mentally engaged in difficult tasks and doing them is a good thing.”
Amen!
LFranke,
My wife has MS, and what you refer to as “keeping mentally engaged in difficult tasks” is something that MS therapy people refer to as “brain integrations.” My wife does many of those type of tasks every day, and that has allowed her to not even require medication…praise the Lord! 🙂
Blessings to you,
dave
Dave: The clinician’s terminology of “brain integrations” would seem to fit the bill of particulars here. Having gone into a period of cognitive and mnemonic decline last spring and early summer, due to a meningioma, I’m personally aware of the loss of function. Following surgery and then radiological “clean up” of any “spall” from the open surgical process, began a period of recovery that has brought me back to pretty much pre-surgical status, actually pre-morbid. But…having the onus of maintaining a discipline of cognitive functioning is critical to “coming back to normality.”
The interaction of biological AND neurological functioning can’t be underestimated as they are, ultimately intimately related. One has to do more than think about activity one has to DO it. I innately see this in my lack of cycling activity (which is my main whole body activity). My whole system is in arears whereas in normal years a cycling season of hundreds of miles keeps me moving and thinking at an optimal (but certainly NOT super human levels). Starting on 02 January, I’m getting back on the Trek 3700 locked into the trainer in the basement and begin restoring base aerobic miles – it’s PAST TIME to get back the legs, lungs and oxygenation!
Shooting in the range across the “man cave” from the 3700 converted from a mountain bike to an urban assault bike provides the mental exercise that the tire spinning the roller provides the legs and lungs. Indeed, it seems to me that one needs a range of activity with at least two components; the gross motor activities (cycling and chores involving muscle power) and the fine motor activities (shooting, primarily). Both kinds of activities would tend to truly integrate body and mind for better human functioning.
Dave, your wife’s clinicians are spot on!
LFrank,
Might this 75 year old (under a month to my 76th anniversary of arrival) suggest including a Turkish Get Up to your daily routine. I would suggest initially just body weight and then adding an increasing range of kettlebell weights if able.
A session with a qualified trainer would be in order to have the proper form ingrained.
Grip strength is a key to measuring total fitness and can be improved with things like Power Putty. It also keeps our hands/fingers functioning to the highest level possible.
shootski
Tom,
Not only old designs but old companies deserve our trust. How else would they have survived for so long? Of course it is a two way street. As long as they continue to produce the goods with quality we will purchase from them. Weihrauch seems to have streamlined their product line a bit dropping the Hw50, but they produced the Hw57 which is an under lever cocking springer lighter than the Hw97 or the Hw77. Is it any good? Time and the market will surely tell.
Siraniko
Siraniko
I didn’t understand that the HW50 was dropped but the HW 57 is really good, unless you don’t follow properly the loading procedure. If only they sold it with a prettier stock…
Siraniko,
The HW57 has been around for a long time. It was also only available in Europe for a long time.
Has the HW50 been dropped from the Weihrauch line? I do not know. It is still for sale here. PAIR even sells it.
Siraniko,
The HW50s is still shown in the lineup on Weihrauch’s website, so it doesn’t appear to have been dropped just yet. Just as well too, as I aim to one day add one to my collection 🙂
Bob R.,
From what I understand, you will not go wrong. My experience and everything I hear from other owners is you cannot go wrong with a Weihrauch.
Tom another nice “Friday” blog.
I would surely like an extension mentioning some more examples from other airgun platforms. Like C02, pistols or rifles etc.
Thank you anyway.
Bill,
I wanted to include air pistols, too, but it was getting long.
Maybe another one? I have to ponder that a bit.
BB
Unfortunately, it has been my experience that not only in the gun world, but in the rest of it, older is better. It is built better and lasts longer. A washer or dryer used to last almost a lifetime. Now you are lucky if they last until the warranty runs out. Then you might as well replace them as the parts are no longer available. The same is with refrigerators and other appliances. Everything is made with cheap, disposable materials. We have become a throw away world.
I must agree with LFranke on the subject of “Senior Triggers”. Dealing almost exclusively with these “old gals” I have on occasion come across triggers that are just too light for their own good. My 1959 Daisy 99 has a very light trigger. Being made of aluminum, I am quite certain it is just worn away. My Izzy has a super light trigger, but that is because I have adjusted it to be that way.
I have known an old .22LR that had a trigger you had better approach with caution, or you would find it going off as soon as you touched the trigger. Triggers can and do wear out. This is more likely to be found in old sproingers than PCPs because of the force they may hold back.
I have encountered this problem more with single stage triggers. As parts become worn, they may not engage as they should or they become easier to disengage, often from wearing smoother along the contact surfaces. I would be most cautious in removing a case-hardened surface. That is asking for trouble.
Perhaps the newbies should see an article about this subject?
I have a corner of the workshop here on Boudreaux’s island of misfit airguns for such problem guns, some get repaired swiftly and some languish there festooned with a hang tag. One such is a thirty plus year old B1-1 that has always been a fun plinker for the money. the trigger wore in nicely after a decade of shooting any time the trigger became iffy I installed a stouter trigger return spring but alas the sear is worn away and no parts can be fond, one roundtuit I will weld up the sear or it will sit in the corner. I have begun the smoothing process on another brand new B1-1 and am two months into the decade of smoothing out the trigger.
I will add that on springers I do not let go of the barrel or cocking lever until the gun is back in battery.
ssc,
I have not disassembled my Daisy 99 to see if it is the Al trigger which is the culprit, or the sear. If it is the sear on your B1-1 that is the culprit you might, MIGHT be able to make it deeper with a file.
I do applaud you’re not letting go of the barrel or cocking lever with sproingers. When you have a nasty surprise, it is usually too late.
BB,
Just so you know, which you probably already know, and all the other folks out there, I do wholeheartedly agree with you concerning the older stuff.
There was no such thing as “double tap” when the .45 ACP was king. That came along with the 9mm. You had to shoot your opponent twice with them if you hoped to stop them. That is the primary reason the 9mm has such a large magazine capacity. You have to use twice as many rounds to accomplish the same as the old 1911.
Oh, I can hear it now. I have heard it all before. No, I do not want to be hit with a 9mm. I will wager that the .45 ACP will do a lot more damage.
Why did the U.S. forces go to the 9mm then? It is cheaper to make a 9mm round than a .45 ACP round. The same is true for the 5.56 NATO. It is also cheaper to make a rifle out of plastic and pot metal than wood and steel.
RidgeRunner, I seem to recall that the US Army manual wanted 2 shots on target with a 1911A1, “to make sure”.
And Colonel Cooper was a big believer in double-tapping.
OP,
Never saw or heard of any of that. To each his or her own.
RR some more things to consider;
Maybe US found the recoil of the 45acp is not as easy to control as the 9mm by the average army personnel. If you miss your target there is no reason to use a firearm. Obviously the same goes for the use of 5.56 instead of 7.62. By the way are there any statistics showing lethality superiority over the years regarding the 45 over the 9 cal? I think it’s the other way around. I suppose we all prefer practical accuracy over power. Combat firearms are tools of a deadly trade so they must be as efficient as possible by the era’s standards and means of production. 70xx grade alloy was not invented but recently in the human history contrary to steel. M4s and 416s are certainly not pot. Even AKs are synthetic dressed nowadays. With this I rest my case.
One last thing about the triggers. My FWB Junior makes me really think before approaching the trigger but I love it.
Bill,
As I have said previously, to each his or her own.
Funny, on American Air Gunner TV the first person to shoot in the competition had an accidental discharge with an FX DRS they were using. They really should let the competitors get familiar with the air rifles they are going to compete with. Some were not even airgunners. “I just put my finger on the trigger”
Speaking of pistols, I just posted something on using a Magnum Pellet in a P5 Magnum Pistol, on yesterday’s blog. Wrong pellet choice for it and possibly others. Just incompatible, no defects. Wondering if it was the cause of some poor accuracy.
BB …. That comment image I posted about the .177 Cal AirForce Condor barrel swap valve warning, was from another website.
I guess I should have given them the credit “Lethalair.net”. It was not from AirForce but they may have acquired the info from them?
I also would enjoy some more blogs on CO2 air guns.
I have a Barra 1858 BB Revolver that claims 400fps and it makes a world of difference when shot compared to most 350fps CO2 pistols. Just a nice solid composite western spring fed pistol, no cylinder rotation, but it ‘almost’ sounds like a real firearm and puts those BB out far. Great plinker and it can be fanned, not recommend of course, but it appears to be unknown. Much more substantial in hand than the copy of a Colt SAA the Crosman Fortify. And both seem to be ‘made’ by the same company with the same quality. Lots of BB pistols out there these days.
Bob,
Yeah, I’ve dropped the ball on CO2 guns. I need to do better.
BB
Gee B.B.
I thought you really like Price Point PCP’s? Lousy triggers and all……
-Y
Yogi,
I like the PPPs to get people into airguns and especially into PCPs. When I wrote all that I wasn’t aware they would all leak down quickly. You see, I was raised on AirForce PCPs.
BB
Nice article. I like older airguns, too. I tend to like older people too.
Errata: in the next to last sentence, would it be correct to write “misled,” or were you trying for a pun?
Roamin,
Well, I never won a spelling bee.
BB
As BB said, the test of time is a good reason to trust. I think that in order for a product to withstand the test of time, both quality of the design and quality of the materials/components are important. Great quality in the design with materials that do not hold up over time results in a product that fails the test of time. Alternatively, a product with “not so great” quality of design but great quality of materials will not be as desirable as it might be. Therefore it will likely fail the test of time. I think that manufacturers can cut costs by utilizing less expensive labor (think China) if they have a great design and use good quality materials and make sure the labor to assemble, etc is done properly.
When discussing trigger safety (or safety in general) forming good habits is crucial. My habits include not touching the trigger until the gun is aimed at the target.
“Why do I trust older firearms? Here is a good reason. They have stood the test of time.”
BB,
Yes! You are definitely “preachin’ to the choir” with me on that one! 😉
All three of my carry guns are all-steel, and all were designed 50 to 90 years ago, LOL!
And, most importantly, all are reliable!
Blessings to you,
dave
Dave: The clinician’s terminology of “brain integrations” would seem to fit the bill of particulars here. Having gone into a period of cognitive and mnemonic decline last spring and early summer, due to a meningioma, I’m personally aware of the loss of function. Following surgery and then radiological “clean up” of any “spall” from the open surgical process, began a period of recovery that has brought me back to pretty much pre-surgical status, actually pre-morbid. But…having the onus of maintaining a discipline of cognitive functioning is critical to “coming back to normality.”
The interaction of biological AND neurological functioning can’t be underestimated as they are, ultimately intimately related. One has to do more than think about activity one has to DO it. I innately see this in my lack of cycling activity (which is my main whole body activity). My whole system is in arears whereas in normal years a cycling season of hundreds of miles keeps me moving and thinking at an optimal (but certainly NOT super human levels). Starting on 02 January, I’m getting back on the Trek 3700 locked into the trainer in the basement and begin restoring base aerobic miles – it’s PAST TIME to get back the legs, lungs and oxygenation!
Shooting in the range across the “man cave” from the 3700 converted from a mountain bike to an urban assault bike provides the mental exercise that the tire spinning the roller provides the legs and lungs. Indeed, it seems to me that one needs a range of activity with at least two components; the gross motor activities (cycling and chores involving muscle power) and the fine motor activities (shooting, primarily). Both kinds of activities would tend to truly integrate body and mind for better human functioning.
Dave, your wife’s clinicians are spot on!
“The interaction of biological AND neurological functioning can’t be underestimated as they are, ultimately intimately related.” For sure!
“…the gross motor activities (cycling and chores involving muscle power) and the fine motor activities (shooting, primarily).”
LFranke,
That is interesting that you should say that; my exercise bike and my 5-meter pistol range both share space in my office; and both are great for days like these when the outdoor temps are below freezing!
Blessings to you,
dave
B.B.,
Can’t say enough good things about carrying a full size 1911 after many decades of doing just that. Yes, because the 9mm cartridge has been improved enough to get the job done most of the time is great…i own a few of them 9mm. The thing that always gets lost in the debates is what you said that the 1911 has been doing it good enough for over a century. I use the “new” technology cartridges in my carry 1911 so i guess that means i can shoot through a vehicle windshield now ;^)
i recall having some armor piercing .45 APC rounds over a half century ago… haven’t ever heard, until recently, of that in 9mm. And, the armor they are talking about is body armor not light armor on vehicles.
Have you?
I know you are big on AirForce airguns just like i am on DAQ airguns; think i figured out why i don’t own any. I’m a Naval Aviator and the brand name is an issue. Lol!
I should get over that as being a ridiculous reason to not try at east one.
shootski
AirForce …… Air force see not the same 😉
You are clear for take off Sir.
B.B,
Speaking of GenII guns, I see that Barra has came out with a gen II 1866 lever action pump gun. You had good accuracy in your review of the gen 1 but had trouble loading pellets. Looks like that tried to fix that in the gen 2. https://barraairguns.com/blogs/barrablog/introducing-the-1866-multipump-gen-2-a-classic-reimagined
Doc.
Tom, you are making it difficult to resist enablement, more so at this time of year…Air Arms…Condor. FM feels like a squirrel – which way to go?! Which nut to chase?!