I am in Canada any idea where can you get the carry handle and the open sites. Also if you get a detuned version can you just not modify it to get the upgraded velocity?
Yes you can bump the velocity a good chunk by "fixing" it which isn't too hard, but with that stubby barrel it'll never see full power. Even the test PA did showed a massive power loss, so if you were ok with a regular full length barrel (like from a Venom or Vantage) you could get ~50% more power than PA did. It wouldn't look right but if you put a tube ~2"x 8" over the barrel it would look like a suppressor :) Here's the link to the parts list of the open sight model, then order said #'s from The Gravel Agency in Canada: https://tinyurl.com/y9xm4br2
If they were available, it would be from Crosman. Though, because it's a picatinny rail, I am sure you could find a legit AR sight set that would work.
Chris again. Can this piece be used for backyard plinking at say, 50-90 feet. What type of a backboard should I use to prevent pellets from going into our composite yard fence? Thanks alot. Used the real thing, a customized AR-10 version in competitive combat shooting. Love this design. Mr. Stoner was a genius. Armalite made a beautiful AR10.
I use a large towel rolled up like a sleeping bag to catch pellets. This gun has a short barrel so it'll be much harder to cock than the other models, like Venom, Trail etc. Like takes the fun out target shooting hard.
other sites state that any break barrel air rifles should never use a scope as the barrel becomes loose and you will never get true accuracy. Seems logical to me. I guess it depends upon the construction and quality of the build. Think of it. Time after time breaking the barrel and maybe cocking it on an angle may wear it down. Thoughts please?
It's loose from day one, but only because it's made in china for cheap. Quality brands don't really have that issue and are not enough of factor that you'd notice. The accuracy of this and similar chinese guns will be mostly other issues, but the looseness will contribute.
Can the flash hider be removed and if so, is it 1/2-28 threaded like the real ones ? Thanks.
I'm certain is it's part of the plastic barrel cover which is likely glued on. The guns Crosman does sell w/ threasd are M12x1.0 for B18 guns, which this is, and the NP2 used 1/2-20.
can this be bought without a scope but with a carry handle and open sights ???
No as is .
How difficult is it to break the barrel at 45 #
Breaking the barrel is easy. Just give the tip of the barrel a good whack (like a karate chop) with the hand to break it open.
How hard is it to load the piston? ( std term is bad language) I'm 75 and not 25 years old any more >>>
Where can I find an MTR77 carry handle? I can't seem to find one on this sight?
Direct from Crosman. See link I posted above to parts list
Will a crosman shockwave fit inside of the ar15 body??
It'll no doubt fit inside, but the plastic body bolts to the extra tall Picitinny rail so if you want it to look normal the answer is no.
do you ship to the philippines?
I left my nitro piston gun cocked for about a week. Will this affect velocity?
Unless a seal in the NP was compromised, it should not have any impact.
Can you swap the forward grip for a quad rail system?
No, it is specially made to work with the break barrel mechanism. A standard quad rail would not work.
If loaded with a hunting pellet, can I take a squirrel with a body shot?
According to PA testing it's an 11ftlb gun, which is imo thanks to the short barrel bc I've see this happen. Better to get a normal version like the Venom, Vantage, Titan etc, or NP2.
Sure, it's an 18 fpe gun, so it should be able to dispatch squirrel or wabbit sized game, the pellet you use is gonna matter. I'm partial to H+N hunter extremes or polymags for fur in .177 and this rifle will handle the weight of those pellets no sweat.
Yes if hit in the Vidal's but head shots are always better if possible
does this gun come with the scope mounted?
can I hunt squirrels accurately at around 25 yards?
What he said ......
Yes if you find the right pellet for you gun and practice .as with all accuracy practice make perfect .
Is this available with carry handle and front site?
No, just the scope.
What is the diameter of the barrell?
Will this specific rifle kill arctic hare?
What size Slip On Recoil Pad would work best with this air rifle?
I live in Canada and if you get a airgun with a velocity over 500 fps you must have a firearms licence, so if I order this gun will I be expecting to get detuned version or the same 1200 fps
By the way, the detuned version of this rifle is actually rated for 495 with standard Crosman premiere pellets instead of alloy lightweight pellets like most of crosman's detuned airguns...my M4-177 is detuned and probably only shoots standard 7-8 grain pellets around 400 fps, which is disappointing...but this mtr77np kicks but for a detuned air rifle!
You can't get a detuned version here...D&L airguns in Langley BC has a couple MTR77NP's in stock, but they aren't on their website so contact them and Kelley will hook you up...I just got one including tax and shipping for $255
will this ship to Canada?
No, shoots over 500 feet per second.
No it will not.
what am i doing wrong i sighted 2 different mtr77 in with 5 diffent scopes and every time i take the gun out of my safe it shoots 3 inches low... remember 2 different mtr77 whats the problem
if you have a loose grip on the rifle the pellets drop but if you keep a tight grip your gun should shoot just fine.
Anyone have velocity numbers with the pellet weight? I'm curious how much power is lost with the short barrel.
The answer from Dan shows how we are all but lied to about velocity. This gun is advertised with a maximum of 1200fps and using H&N 5.56 grain lead free pellets it is just shy of the advertised 1200. I pulled out some pellets I have and found H&N 6.48 grain lead free pellets I bought to shoot inside without putting lead dust in the air. This 6.46gr pellet feels like a tiny cotton ball in my hand and the pellet used in the video Dan mentions is about 1 grain lighter. How about we customers make them advertise velocity with a realistic weight lead pellet we are likely to use. I doubt this gun could hit 900fps with a lead pellet with a back breeze. Thank you Robert for asking this question. I'm sick of inflated velocity numbers using super light pellets and not telling us that part. Ken W. from Massachusetts.
According to the video, 1,182 fps with H&N 5.56 lead free pellets.
can I buy open sight kit for this rifle?
You can buy one with opens sights on a removable carry handle
Scope is crap, tried red dot, with better results, .Any suggestions for after market open sights??
Most standard AR sights will work on it. Anything that can attach to a weaver/picatinny rail.