Can I add a moderator to this?
Yes . The muzzle is threaded and has a cap.
Thank you for all your patience... So just to be clear the smooth bore will fit on the gun but what you are saying is it will not function properly because the internals of the firing mech are different and the charge delivered by the wing shot is larger than drag claw? If this is the case is it just the hammer and valve springs that are different or are the firing valves themselves different? Is there anywhere one could get a parts break down of both guns? Air venturi tech dep is unavailable currently..
The guns look similar but their internals a very different. Barrel swapping would require machining one barrel to fit the other gun. An expensive proposition. This is from the Tech Dept.
I am deeply sorry for all the questions...pyramid tech dep is unavailable... I don't understand why the smooth barrel from wing shot would not fit on the drag claw... looking at this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NLKrtKluA4 you can see how the barrel attaches to receiver.. both barrels have an I.D. of .50" and seem to have the breech port in the same place the wing shot barrel measures 15/16th longer but I assume the the choke is what accounts for the longer length... it being longer doesnt seem to be an issue any how as the barrel is retained by the band held in place by the retainer on the reservoirs... why would this not work?? Is the O.D. of the barrels different or pehaps the mounting to the reciever ? Different hammer or valve springs? Transfer port? Again im sorry for the excess of questions...
The interior construction of the guns are different, You can not simply swap out the barrels.This is direct from the Tech Dept. There are different firing valves. and other internal differences.
Are parts diagrams available for this gun as well as the wing shot? I may be wrong but it appears that the internals of both gun seem identical minus the low power selector on the on dragon claw... i could be missing something... are the receivers for the barrels cut to different specs? Also is the recluse the same gun as the drag claw but chambered in .357?
The Seneca guns are related but not the same. Parts are not interchangeable. Barrels do not swap out between guns.
The barrel on the dragon claw appears to be threaded at the muzzle... would it accept the choke for the wing shot??
No. The choke is an internal thread. The Dragon Claw muzzle is an external thread.
The Dragon Claw and the Wing shot appear to be the same gun with different barrels and the dragon claw having a second reservoir... Pyramid sells a replacement barrel and shroud for the wing shot(PY-A-8731 and Air Venturi Barrel Rail For... ) Would the barrel and shroud from the wing shot fit on the dragon claw?? it would be nice to have the option to switch between a riffled and smooth barrel just like swapping barrels on a powder burner...
No the guns are built differently. You can not do a simple barrel swap.
Would it be possible to use a male foster with built in check valve to fix my check valve sticking issues? Its very frustrating my check valve is getting stuck more times than not after filling..... What im asking is will this be a quick fix?
To make sure the Dragon Claw check valve closes.When still connected to the air source tilt the gun muzzle down. Rap the muzzle sharply against something solid. When you bleed the air line bleed as quickly as possible. These steps should help.
Will an ATN X-sight 4k 5-20 scope mount to the 50 Cal dragon claw gun?
Yes. With an 11mm dovetail to weaver adapter like UTG New Gen Dovetail-to-Picatinny/Weaver Adapter,...
How do I store this gun with air in it or without air in it if with air how much?
You should store a PCP airgun with 800-1000 PSI in it.
How do I install the cocking lever? My gun is charged at 100 psi. What do I have to move or take apart to install the cocking lever
Using a hex key or phillips screwdriver pull the bolt back to half cock. Using the hex drive bolt attach the cocking handle ,curve towards the muzzle.
I bought one of these and cannot seem to disconnect the air hose from the guns reservoir without it completely leaking out. I have a G9 hand pump and wondering if anyone has any suggestions?
Please e-mail [email protected] We can give better comprehensive help.
Just purchased the dragon claw 50 caliber. When trying to fill the guns reservoir with my air Venturi hand pump G9 I could not seem to disconnect the fill hose from the air tank without losing all my air in the Guns reservoir. Any suggestions?
Once you fill the gun. While still connected to the pump. Tilt the gun muzzle down, Rap the muzzle end against a table leg,or something solid. The check valve is getting stuck. The hit helps it fall into place, open the bleed valve quickly. This will help as well.
Curious, Who can tell me which Picatinny rail will replace the factory scope rail?
Use a rail adapter like UTG New Gen Dovetail-to-Picatinny/Weaver Adapter,... .
On the dragon claw duel tank 50 cal how many refills do you get with a tank?
Refills depend on the tank size. 100 cu in=5-6 fills. 74 cu ft 15-17 frills 100 cu ft 30-32 fills/ a scuba tank 88 cu ft at 3000 psi =5-6 fills.
I am looking at possibly buying one of these. I mostly tree stand hunt, and use a pull up rope to raise and lower my gun or bow. Is there a way to de-cock this gun before lowering it to the ground?
To de-cock the Dragon Claw : You pull and hold the bolt (real tight) Pull the trigger and ease the bolt forward.
Can this air rifle shoots round balls
Is it legal to shoot deer with it in Ohio
Check our interactive hunting map on the website.
My Seneca dragon claw 50 cal. Is not shooting straight with the Mantis 4x12x40-AO ; I am a fairly good shot with guns and bows since I was trained in the Marine corps ; the gun shoots at the bottom of the target paper and the adjustment to raise the scope is limited out at the highest level ; just recently purchased the rifle and have shot less than 20 rounds .?
The pellet trajectory is a pronounced arc. You need to shim the scope. Loosen the sope in the rings. Under the scope tube on the rear ring, the one closest to you , Insert a shim on the bottom ring half. Thin plastic ,a couple layers of popcan. tighten the scope in the rings. This will raise the rear of the scope. looking thru the scope level the gun muzzle will be pointing slightly upward. This should give you up back on scope adjustment.
Just purchased the gun. A nice looking gun with good features. I am having a hard time cocking the gun from first to second postion to fire a high power. Is this normal for everyone and will Improve over time?
it will work in. give it some time
I live in Wisconsin, how would this perform in the winter hunts here. cold weather?
Depending how cold you can vary in FPS due to orings getting hard.
I've read on a couple of blogs that the scope rail mount is machined crooked, which causes a scope to sit crooked, is this a common defect for the dragon claw?
I would like to paint the front site white. Do have any suggestion on paint?
any paint could work.
Do you have a picaninny scope rail that will fit? I would like mount a 30mm scope rings on to it. The scope rings would need to be high enough to allow the use of the rifles installed sights. Thank You Edward Hernandez
What is the exact diameter of the bore
The bore is 0.495
Air leaking out of the fill up port.
If this is a statement, and not a question, I'd recommend calling the tech team at PA, they should be able to help you trouble shoot
What are the size and thread count on the end of the barrel? Cant find anything on size anywhere
Its an 18mx1 I had to do a bunch of looking fo get a suppressor and an adapter for it
I bought the Mantis 4-12x40 AO Rifle Scope to put on my dragon claw and the the scope hits the iron sight. How do I get the scope up higher to clear the sight or around the sight? Or how do you remove the sight? Any suggestions will be most grateful...thanks.
To remove the rear sight, use a Phillips head screw driver and take out the top screw, slowly lift the rear of the rear sight and collect your spring underneath, then remove the remaining screw and the rear sight is now off. Or just buy one inch rings for it
Is the gun capable to kill a deer at 75 yards with a 180 grain bullet and will it have a exit hole
I would ask a different question.
can they be shipped to belgium ?
With the refurbished "version". what is done to the gun and by whom?
They are inspected/fixed by the Tech Team at Pyramyd Air. If service is required, that is done. The gun may have come back for various reasons, so it is impossible to cover ever scenario, but if the gun had an issue and required new parts, those parts are replaced.
Which Degassing Tool works for the Dragon Claw?
We have a degassing tool in our Dragon Claw upgrade kit. contact me for more information
There isn't one
hi can this be shipped to UK thanks jeff
hi folks do you ship this to swiss i read the laws, no licence at all, not suprised you can get a 22 or even bigger singel repeater long rifle without one too, and would the hand pump get the max power out of it. i dont got any compression tanks
Sure You can get the Max with a Hand Pump if You are willing to put in some Muscle and Work
I have an Evanix 480 (.35 cal), Gamo TC45 (.45 cal), and ordered (from Pyramyd of course) the Dragon Claw (.50 cal) as well as the Umarex Hammer (.50 cal). Would you recommend slugging all the barrels, or just the .50 cal? I know I need to use soft lead, recommendations (fishing sinker, current pellet for rifle that's been tapped down to make it wider, etc.)? Thanks
If you plan to cast your own ammo, I would definitely think slugging the barrels will be a smart move. That way you know exactly what diameter ammo you need to cast.
Would a Benjamin hand pump work on this?
Do you need to remove the choke when u shot the air bolt
There is no choke on the dragon claw, only the wing shot. On the wing shot, you do need to remove the choke.
can u shoot shot shells out of this gun?
whats the over all length
I am looking for aftermarket barrels to make improvements of my own design. Any suggestions or ideas where to look?
Which suppressor model works on this rifle? (Please, no warnings about buying suppressors... I know the laws... just tell me which models will work on this gun) Thank you!
Donnyfl.com has some emperor v3
Pyramyd does not offer one.
Roughly how many pumps should it take to fill the 500cc with a hand pump, and how long ?
What is the size of the thread at the end of the muzzle?
Is this legal for bow season in Ohio?
Not at this time. (Nov. 2017)
How do I mount a bipod on the dragon claw duel tank
Get the quiver add on, for the bow. And the bipod mounts to it. The attachment mounts to barrel
You would have to install a swivel stud into the fore-stock. GrovTec Quick-Detach Sling Swivel Stud...
Do you need your license even though it's an air rifle?
In Canada, you would need a PAL for this rifle and to find a dealer that can bring it into the country. Pyramyd cannot ship it to Canada
What type of fill port is used on this version? Older models use 1/8 BSPP. Can the new style be bought as a replacement?
The current version uses a male quick disconnect fitting.
How do you go about filling the reservoirs that you fill the gun with, there is know where near me that has a 4500 psi air compressor and I do not want to hand pump it very badly
Get you a scuba tank and the K valve fill station it has the female foster fitting and will fit the mail fitting on the rifle. I get 2900 psi fills
Can use nitrogen in stead of air.
Will this Sam Yang Dragon Claw work with #6 & #8 shot shotgun amio???? It will shoot arrows and as well as of up to .600" in the 500cc .50cal model!!!
Got mine and shot it today using the Air Bolts. I had to really jack up the rear sight for 30yd shots. I can't imagine a scope having that kind of adjustment... we'll see... but I was wondering how close POA/impact is between arrows and slugs? I'm wondering if it can be that far off between the two? If I'll need to crank the sight back down to a more normal position when I shoot slugs? Anybody shooting both?
Yes. This is typical
How hard is it to fill with air pump?
Gotta be a joke. I weigh 190 and have 6 pcp guns including a Sumatra 2500. I shot and fill will a Benjamin hand pump. Its a pain but manageable
Start Body Building if You have not done so already :) they claim it takes a 225 pound man to pump this I am only 175.00 pounds and I work out for many years so it is not that hard if You go to the gym regularly
What mold cast the most accurate usable bullet for hunting dear sized animals.
Can I use an air compressor to fill this gun and what kind of adapter would I need? Are they sold on this site>
If you mean a shop compressor, no. It does not put out the pressure required to fill this. Pyramyd does sell compressors that are capable of filling this gun here: Air Venturi Air Compressor, Electric,...
Can i shoot the wing shot shot she'll with the dragon claw
not recommended, this barrel is rifled bore not smooth bore, you will get plastic fouling but you can use sabots with .45 cal bullets but you will get the same plastic fouling.
On the eunjin meter what is the Max fill 20 or 30?
20, right where the green and the red lines meet
How much does this gun weigh?
What is max affective range of this gun?
Do they have a left handed stock or version of this rifle?
I got the .50 cal 250 grain from venturi and it seems to be a super tight fit and I'm afraid it will get stuck in the barrel?
I believe that you should "slug" your bore and, using accurate calipers, measure the slug. Then, go to a seller, like Hunter's Supply, and have them swage bullets to your exact caliber. They will usually do this for you at no extra charge, and you can then be sure that the ammunition you are using will perform well in your gun.
Does this gun have a swivel stud ( if not how can I put a bipod on it )?
You can put a bipod on it if You get the Air Venturi Quiver & Bipod Mounting Bracket
No it doesn't .
The ammo on this site is limited, can these big bore rifles shoot standard muzzle loader rounds, specifically sabot rounds from Hornady or Thompson/Center?
You can use .495 muzzle loader rounds
This gun should use only soft lead bullets for best performance. Hard lead, jacketed, sabots, and lubricated bullets should be avoided. They can damage rifling, sabots can come loose and plug a barrel, and lubed bullets can dirty a barrel quickly.
I would not recommend sabot ammo
this gun is loud is there a suppresser that fits this gun ???????????
There are supressors that will fit, but in most states, they require a special license, or are simply illegal to use on ANY type of gun, firearm or air. Don't take the chance!
How many full power shot on one fill?
I get 15 shots using 185 gr lead. After 15 shots on full power I see bullet drop out of the x zone by about 1/4" lower by shot.
Read the part of the description that describes the technique of switching to half-power after 4th shot and basically continue getting consistent shot string.
You will get roughly 6 shots per fill.
THis is in the "hunting" category so what kind of game does that include?
In some locales, they can be used to hunt deer sized animals. Laws vary, so do your homework before you decide to use this on game animals.
this one when untuned can take up to javelina up to 35-40 yards. People do hunt wild boar with these.
Is there a way to put a bipod on this dual tank gun. If so, what kind do I need to get?
Or to make it easier just get the Air Venturi Quiver & Bipod Mounting Bracket Item# Air Venturi Quiver & Bipod...
You would have to tap the fore grip with a swivel screw, then get a bi pod with the swivel adapter.
should the .50 cal pellet on the Sam Yang Dragon Claw 500cc Air Rifle be seated as far forward as possible or to the back of the breach? Thanks
I would seat the pellet further forward in the breech.
How do you fill the middle air resevior?
The middle reservoir is connected to the bottom one, so when you fill the rifle you fill both tanks at the same time.