I just purchased the Swarm Magnum. Now that everyone has had a chance to shoot this gun quite a bit....what are the best all around pellets I should buy for accuracy and still have fairly good velocity???
Best luck I had with mine was Predator GTO pellets and JSB 18.13 grain, though the heavier pellets are not as consistent as the GTOs for some reason....must have a barrel that just likes them a lot
Can you use any brand of .22 pellets with this gun? Like the Crosman Premier destroyers?
Crosman Destroyers should be just fine in this rifle. Not all pellets will fit the magazine though, so keep in mind that the longer pellets pay not fit
I know the magnum is new in 22 cal but i own a bone collector .177 cal for three yrs and it is as good now as it was when I got it. How as the maxxim 10 shot repeater held up to the uses over time.
Have yet to have any issues with mine, had the gun since it came out
Can the cheek rest be removed. I have a lazy eye and I put a 3 x 9 32 centerpoint scope on it like my maxxim but e every time I look through the scope the cheek rest seems to high and within 3 secs it feels like my eyes are crossing. I never had this problem with the maxxim
I guess the Maxxim is best for you, stay with it. It appears that you also bought the Magnum. Maybe you could have the cheek rest cut down or shaved off/down, and sanded smooth. You can do it. Woodys World. Buy a chronograph.
I'm guessing I'd have to put higher mounts
Sadly the cheek piece is not adjustable. The only way to remove it would be to cut it off
can I get any high powered air rifle shipped to Canada?
Not from Pyramyd Air
Can I get this shipped into Canada easily?
can this rifle be used without the scope?... can I install front/rear sights to it?
Not if you want to continue to use the multi shot system. That would block your view of open sights
How many magazine included?
I have swarm maxxim. Could Gamo make it 1300 FPS (Like swarm magnum) to retain its rifle length, weight and cocking effort?
Im trying to decide between the magnum and the magnum and magnum swarm. I like open sites as an option but really like the suppressor option as well. Is the suppressor worth not having open sites
put a good scope on it and you will be surprize at the accuracy of this gun
That depends on your use, but you're going to mount a scope either way to see the best accuracy. And having quick follow up shots with the 10x system is really nice. Saves a lot of time.
Is the scope that is included an AO scope?
It is not sadly.
Can my old magazine from swarm maxim fits in swarm magnum?
Yes if it is the same caliber
And, Tyler what do you think would be the best and baddest scope to put on this gun
have a bushnell banner 3x9x40 and it is a 60.00 dollar scope excellant scope for this gun
Depends on your budget, but a good value for the dollar would be a glass etched Leapers like this: Leapers UTG 3-12x44 AO Accushot...
Can you mount a bipod on this gun
Bipods should not be attached to barrels, only on to the stock. Woodys World.
Only a barrel mounted bipod, which I wouldn't recommend
What grain pellet makes it go 1300 fps...
Try the Winchester Max Velocity Dome 8.18 Grain Tin Alloy Pellet sold by Pyramyd Air. My Ruger Air Magnum shot this pellet at 1147fps in 81 degree weather. Get a chronograph. Woodys World.
If I had to guess, something in the 9 grain range would get you close.
What's the barrel twist ?
Just ordered the swarm magnum was wondering whats the heaviest pellet. I can use , Thanks all
Personally, I would not use a .22 pellet heavier than 18 grains, or .177 pellet heavier than 15 grains. Get a chronograph. Woodys World.
i wouldsuggest the 14.3 jsb rounds or the gamo redfire.. They make the pellet fly at 910 to 920 fps.. Ive tested it
I wouldn't go heavier than the 21 grain HN Baracuda
Mine is on her way finally will be here Monday Im glad I didnt cancel a few days ago when I was thinking about it
I unboxed mine this weekend. I put about 50 rounds into it with my Leapes 3-12X40 scope. I need to do more testing before I put in a more detailed review. So far I'm really liking it. And you get a free work out each time!
Hope you like it
Now that production models are out , does anyone have any feedback yet? Waiting to buy
If you are looking for that claimed 1300 fps, try the 8.18 grain .22 caliber Winchester alloy Max-Speed dome. Pyramyd Air does sell it. Woodys World.
I will write a review today mine will be in sometime today brotha
Received mine last week. sweet looking rifle. shoots nice. did the 20 for $20 scope mount and test fire with the print out of the fps of the results... the first shot was a blazing 1513 fps... the next 19 shots registered between 1015- 1050 fps... using their test ammo. a bit disappointing considering I ordered based on the claimed 1300 fps. but... quiet, accurate, well balanced. feels great to shoot. cocking is a bit hard, but, I've not put a lot of rounds thru it yet. I've been using the MetalMags, which, some say are too long to fit in a lot of other magazines, fit just perfectly in this rifle.
Now that production models are out, does anyone plan on doing a review?
Does anyone know the actual day the swarm magnum is being released & not another FAKE date. I'm thinking about canceling my order.
I just got mine in the mail
They'll begin shipping next week from PA. Was told that they are on their way now.
Why does the in stock date keep getting pushed back?
Could be that they are filling backorders first, as fast as they get them in. Woodys World. Get a chronograph.
i just got mine yesterday im in nc
I can confirm that these will start shipping next week. They are on their way to PA now. Did not get info on how many are coming....but was told they are arriving soon.
Can this rifle be decocked?
What is the new shipping date on Gamo Swarm Magnum
My friend just ordered it 2 days ago (06-27-2018), estimated shipping date given was 07-07-2018.
When is this model 117 caliber?
At this time, Gamo has not announced any other calibers for the Swarm Magnum
Does this product hit shelves on the 18th ?
According to the last update from Gamo, yes
Do you think it would be possible to put the new gas piston in a swarm Maxxim to get increased velocities?
No, different compressor tubes
As usual... very nice & thorough review. I own both .177 & .22 gamo Magnums & absolutely love them both. The fact that these are very light weight for those long walks through the woods... Without the risk of warping, rotting or cracking a heavy wooden stock, & have so much power without the extra cost & "bother" of a fill tank & pump is perfect. I hold them exactly the same way I hold any of my shotguns..& I always hit exactly what I'm aiming at every time. I can't wait to get this new multi shot Magnum. My question is: couldn't the gamo Magnum take down anything any PCP air rifle of the same caliber could... sense the gamo Magnum has even more FPS than ANY PCP air rifle on the market?
Thank you Tyler
From an energy perspective, depending on what pellets you're using, you're looking at 22 - 29 FPE at the muzzle of the gun. FPS doesn't really matter, energy (FPE) is what you want. So while a lighter pellet does produce more energy in this gun, it will not retain it's velocity as well as a heavier pellet over distance, which means past a certain distance it will be less effective on game compared to a heavier projectile. That aside, assuming you could hold good enough accuracy for hunting, this would be capable of taking any small game that a PCP could take with the same energy.
Found the review interesting, though must admit it has put me off my intended purchase until I get more information. Wondering if in a situation like this where poor accuracy, hold sensitivity, cocking effort, etc are viewed as negatives when "out of the box", whether it might serve the product well to do a "now dialed in" review and/or "now here with another unit being tested" and/or "now using a bag rest instead of holding" would be useful? Of course, If one gun does poorly and the next does well, we still have a problem of consistency.
To be clear, 1" accuracy at 45 yards is not bad by any stretch, it's not great, but not bad either. The gun was well broken in by the time we put it on camera, 1000+ shots. Tried various holds/supports and the results were very similar or worse. With a near 50 lbs cocking effort, I'd rather not do that again LOL
The video appears as a less than emphatic endorsement
what was the fps of that predator pellet.. its a low grain
The Predator GTO pellet: Predator GTO .22 Cal, 11.75...
Tyler, which pellet gave you that 45 yd accuracy?
Bear in mind, as with all the PA Insyder videos, it's a look at one gun and reflects that guns performance. You'll find other reviews with different guns of the same model that performed better than the one used here. You could buy 3 of them and likely get 3 different results, or maybe two similar shooting guns and one that is very different. I've always found that to be the case with most sub $300 guns, what may work for one, often doesn't work in another.
how did the 15.grain jsb's do in accuracy?
At least in the gun I tested, they were good out to about 30 yards (sub 1" groups) past that, I could not keep 5 shots under 1" with them
When is the release date
I want to buy 117 caliber 4.5
At this time it is only going to be available in .22
Will this gas piston fit into a Beeman Kodiak?
Does it come in a .25 cal
Not at this time
Just looking at the photos - it appears that magazine occludes some or all of the scope view. Does the magazine appear in an or interfere with a typical scope on a standard mounting system"
I use a 4x12x44 scope and it works fine
No, you cannot see it through the scope
Will this in the .22 work to kill coyotes?
With a lung shot or heart shot yes. i saw a coyote killed by a .177... and i would suggest using gamo redfires or the gamo rockets
Having hunted these and similar with larger caliber firearms animals - the answer would be an unqualified = "No." They are exceptionally tough an getting the penetration needed for either a brain scrambling or heart stopping shot is not credible with this projectile and velocity.
From an energy perspective with a well placed head shot, within 20-25 yards, yes
Does it shoot without the Mag too , i like the polymags and im pretty sure they wont fit
Polymag has come out with a short version of the Polymag for just this reason. I'm not sure if it will fit in this specific mag, but it was made for exactly this purpose.
Correct, the full size polymags will not fit the magazine. Sadly, no single shot option available at this time
How many rotary magazines does it come with ? Hopefully at least 2 !!
One, I picked up three more. With this repeater system (It is awesome!) you definitely want at least three mags.
Just one. Gamo Swarm Quick-Shot Magazine, .22... if you wanted to pick up extras
Would it stay subsonic with lead free 11.75 Grain Predator GTO or what would be other lead free pellets accurate in this gun?
I would say JSB Diabolo Exact Jumbo Express .22 Cal, 14.3 Grains, Domed. That should put you around 940 fps. If you go into 1000 fps you enter transonic speed and it starts making the pellet act oddly..
No, I don't think it will.
Will this rifle have a BSA barrel?
Doubtful ? But Gamo is BSA.
What case does this fit into?? Doesn't look like any.
Plano # Plano Single Scoped Rifle Case...........
Will the magazines from the Maxxim fit the Magnum?
I believe so
Will the Leapers/UTG EZ-TAP scope fit? It doesn't fit the Swarm Maxxim, but this rifle looks like it has more space to mount the longer scopes.
This weapon has a lot of room to fit scopes.. id say at least 4 more inches worth i just got mine. much more then the swarm maxxim
It will fit. I have a Leapers scope on my gamo swarm maxim... and it fits just fine. So you'll have no problems with this one
Depends on the length but I would agree, this definitely has more mounting space than the Swarm Maxxim
What happens when you shoot the last pellet in the clip and do not realize there is no pellet to load in the barrel, will you be able to DRY FIRE the rifle or is there some stop to prevent that from happening?
Yes, the rifle can be dry fired. Though, if you're paying attention, the big exclamation point that appears in the magazine window will tell you that you are empty.
Is this a Gas Ram like the HW90 or a Gas Strut like the Crosman?
Tyler, How soon can we expect a review from you in this rifle?
You should see it within the next week.
Have you heard any news concerning when you can offer a review? I've seen some other shooting reviews, but I'm waiting on you.
Just as soon as I get one in to evaluate.
so, this offering essentially comes with the same muzzle energy as the single-shot Gamo Magnum?! Oh, yes!
Is there any time frame in which this rifle will be available?
What is the cocking effort on this rifle?
41 lbs according to Gamo
In the image provided - doesn't the magazine block the scope view?
No, same as the original swarm, the view through the scope is unobstructed
Holy smurf when did this come out?
Introduced at SHOT show 2018 in January
Can you pre order this rifle?
For a hundred dollars more than the standard rifle , Gamo should have offered the rifle with the wooden deluxe stock they use on the European Elite model. Why not?
You'll get no argument from me