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Customers Q&A on Gamo Swarm Magnum, Multi-shot Air Rifle

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  • jason from USA asked:

    What grain pellet makes it go 1300 fps...

    • Tyler from USA:

      If I had to guess, something in the 9 grain range would get you close.

  • Lowell from USA asked:

    What's the barrel twist ?

    • Andrew from USA asked:

      Just ordered the swarm magnum was wondering whats the heaviest pellet. I can use , Thanks all

      • Tyler from USA:

        I wouldn't go heavier than the 21 grain HN Baracuda

    • jared from USA asked:

      Mine is on her way finally will be here Monday Im glad I didnt cancel a few days ago when I was thinking about it

      • Cecilio from USA:

        I unboxed mine this weekend. I put about 50 rounds into it with my Leapes 3-12X40 scope. I need to do more testing before I put in a more detailed review. So far I'm really liking it. And you get a free work out each time!

      • Tyler from USA:

        Hope you like it

    • Brian from USA asked:

      Now that production models are out , does anyone have any feedback yet? Waiting to buy

      • jared from USA:

        I will write a review today mine will be in sometime today brotha

      • James from USA:

        Received mine last week. sweet looking rifle. shoots nice. did the 20 for $20 scope mount and test fire with the print out of the fps of the results... the first shot was a blazing 1513 fps... the next 19 shots registered between 1015- 1050 fps... using their test ammo. a bit disappointing considering I ordered based on the claimed 1300 fps. but... quiet, accurate, well balanced. feels great to shoot. cocking is a bit hard, but, I've not put a lot of rounds thru it yet. I've been using the MetalMags, which, some say are too long to fit in a lot of other magazines, fit just perfectly in this rifle.

    • Brian from USA asked:

      Now that production models are out, does anyone plan on doing a review?

      • Junior from USA asked:

        Does anyone know the actual day the swarm magnum is being released & not another FAKE date. I'm thinking about canceling my order.

        • jason from USA:

          I just got mine in the mail

        • Tyler from USA:

          They'll begin shipping next week from PA. Was told that they are on their way now.

      • Valeree from USA asked:

        Why does the in stock date keep getting pushed back?

        • jason from USA:

          i just got mine yesterday im in nc

        • Tyler from USA:

          I can confirm that these will start shipping next week. They are on their way to PA now. Did not get info on how many are coming....but was told they are arriving soon.

      • Maurice from USA asked:

        Can this rifle be decocked?

        • Tyler from USA:

          Not safely

      • Ed from USA asked:

        What is the new shipping date on Gamo Swarm Magnum

        • Maurice from USA:

          My friend just ordered it 2 days ago (06-27-2018), estimated shipping date given was 07-07-2018.

      • otari@mail.ru from USA asked:

        When is this model 117 caliber?

        • Tyler from USA:

          At this time, Gamo has not announced any other calibers for the Swarm Magnum

      • jared from USA asked:

        Does this product hit shelves on the 18th ?

        • Tyler from USA:

          According to the last update from Gamo, yes

      • McIver from USA asked:

        Do you think it would be possible to put the new gas piston in a swarm Maxxim to get increased velocities?

        • Tyler from USA:

          No, different compressor tubes

      • James from USA asked:

        As usual... very nice & thorough review. I own both .177 & .22 gamo Magnums & absolutely love them both. The fact that these are very light weight for those long walks through the woods... Without the risk of warping, rotting or cracking a heavy wooden stock, & have so much power without the extra cost & "bother" of a fill tank & pump is perfect. I hold them exactly the same way I hold any of my shotguns..& I always hit exactly what I'm aiming at every time. I can't wait to get this new multi shot Magnum. My question is: couldn't the gamo Magnum take down anything any PCP air rifle of the same caliber could... sense the gamo Magnum has even more FPS than ANY PCP air rifle on the market?

        • James from USA:

          Thank you Tyler

        • Tyler from USA:

          From an energy perspective, depending on what pellets you're using, you're looking at 22 - 29 FPE at the muzzle of the gun. FPS doesn't really matter, energy (FPE) is what you want. So while a lighter pellet does produce more energy in this gun, it will not retain it's velocity as well as a heavier pellet over distance, which means past a certain distance it will be less effective on game compared to a heavier projectile. That aside, assuming you could hold good enough accuracy for hunting, this would be capable of taking any small game that a PCP could take with the same energy.

      • Greg from USA asked:

        Found the review interesting, though must admit it has put me off my intended purchase until I get more information. Wondering if in a situation like this where poor accuracy, hold sensitivity, cocking effort, etc are viewed as negatives when "out of the box", whether it might serve the product well to do a "now dialed in" review and/or "now here with another unit being tested" and/or "now using a bag rest instead of holding" would be useful? Of course, If one gun does poorly and the next does well, we still have a problem of consistency.

        • Tyler from USA:

          To be clear, 1" accuracy at 45 yards is not bad by any stretch, it's not great, but not bad either. The gun was well broken in by the time we put it on camera, 1000+ shots. Tried various holds/supports and the results were very similar or worse. With a near 50 lbs cocking effort, I'd rather not do that again LOL

      • michael from USA asked:

        The video appears as a less than emphatic endorsement

        • Tyler from USA:

          Bear in mind, as with all the PA Insyder videos, it's a look at one gun and reflects that guns performance. You'll find other reviews with different guns of the same model that performed better than the one used here. You could buy 3 of them and likely get 3 different results, or maybe two similar shooting guns and one that is very different. I've always found that to be the case with most sub $300 guns, what may work for one, often doesn't work in another.

      • jeff from USA asked:

        how did the 15.grain jsb's do in accuracy?

        • Tyler from USA:

          At least in the gun I tested, they were good out to about 30 yards (sub 1" groups) past that, I could not keep 5 shots under 1" with them

      • Darren from USA asked:

        When is the release date

        • Tyler from USA:

          Early June

      • otari@mail.ru from USA asked:

        I want to buy 117 caliber 4.5

        • Tyler from USA:

          At this time it is only going to be available in .22

      • Cameron from USA asked:

        Will this gas piston fit into a Beeman Kodiak?

        • Tyler from USA:

          Highly unlikely

      • Marco from USA asked:

        Does it come in a .25 cal

        • Tyler from USA:

          Not at this time

      • Durwood from USA asked:

        Just looking at the photos - it appears that magazine occludes some or all of the scope view. Does the magazine appear in an or interfere with a typical scope on a standard mounting system"

        • jason from USA:

          I use a 4x12x44 scope and it works fine

        • Tyler from USA:

          No, you cannot see it through the scope

      • Jason from USA asked:

        Will this in the .22 work to kill coyotes?

        • jason from USA:

          With a lung shot or heart shot yes. i saw a coyote killed by a .177... and i would suggest using gamo redfires or the gamo rockets

        • Durwood from USA:

          Having hunted these and similar with larger caliber firearms animals - the answer would be an unqualified = "No." They are exceptionally tough an getting the penetration needed for either a brain scrambling or heart stopping shot is not credible with this projectile and velocity.

        • Tyler from USA:

          From an energy perspective with a well placed head shot, within 20-25 yards, yes

      • John from Switzerland asked:

        Does it shoot without the Mag too , i like the polymags and im pretty sure they wont fit

        • JON from USA:

          Polymag has come out with a short version of the Polymag for just this reason. I'm not sure if it will fit in this specific mag, but it was made for exactly this purpose.

        • Tyler from USA:

          Correct, the full size polymags will not fit the magazine. Sadly, no single shot option available at this time

      • Ivory from USA asked:

        How many rotary magazines does it come with ? Hopefully at least 2 !!

        • Cecilio from USA:

          One, I picked up three more. With this repeater system (It is awesome!) you definitely want at least three mags.

        • Tyler from USA:

          Just one. Gamo Swarm Quick-Shot Magazine, .22... if you wanted to pick up extras

      • Big from Canada asked:

        Would it stay subsonic with lead free 11.75 Grain Predator GTO or what would be other lead free pellets accurate in this gun?

        • jason from USA:

          I would say JSB Diabolo Exact Jumbo Express .22 Cal, 14.3 Grains, Domed. That should put you around 940 fps. If you go into 1000 fps you enter transonic speed and it starts making the pellet act oddly..

        • Tyler from USA:

          No, I don't think it will.

      • Mark from USA asked:

        Will this rifle have a BSA barrel?

        • Stanley from USA:

          Doubtful ? But Gamo is BSA.

      • Alan from USA asked:

        What case does this fit into?? Doesn't look like any.

      • Patrick from USA asked:

        Will the magazines from the Maxxim fit the Magnum?

        • Tyler from USA:

          I believe so

      • Stuart from USA asked:

        Will the Leapers/UTG EZ-TAP scope fit? It doesn't fit the Swarm Maxxim, but this rifle looks like it has more space to mount the longer scopes.

        • jason from USA:

          This weapon has a lot of room to fit scopes.. id say at least 4 more inches worth i just got mine. much more then the swarm maxxim

        • Robert from USA:

          It will fit. I have a Leapers scope on my gamo swarm maxim... and it fits just fine. So you'll have no problems with this one

        • Tyler from USA:

          Depends on the length but I would agree, this definitely has more mounting space than the Swarm Maxxim

      • Michael from USA asked:

        What happens when you shoot the last pellet in the clip and do not realize there is no pellet to load in the barrel, will you be able to DRY FIRE the rifle or is there some stop to prevent that from happening?

        • Tyler from USA:

          Yes, the rifle can be dry fired. Though, if you're paying attention, the big exclamation point that appears in the magazine window will tell you that you are empty.

      • Joe from USA asked:

        Is this a Gas Ram like the HW90 or a Gas Strut like the Crosman?

        • Tyler from USA:

          Strut

      • Frank from USA asked:

        Tyler, How soon can we expect a review from you in this rifle?

        • Tyler from USA:

          You should see it within the next week.

        • Frank from USA:

          Have you heard any news concerning when you can offer a review? I've seen some other shooting reviews, but I'm waiting on you.

        • Tyler from USA:

          Just as soon as I get one in to evaluate.

      • Christophe from USA asked:

        so, this offering essentially comes with the same muzzle energy as the single-shot Gamo Magnum?! Oh, yes!

        • Tyler from USA:

          Correct

      • Phillip from USA asked:

        Is there any time frame in which this rifle will be available?

        • Tyler from USA:

          Not yet

      • Richard from USA asked:

        What is the cocking effort on this rifle?

        • Tyler from USA:

          41 lbs according to Gamo

      • Durwood from USA asked:

        In the image provided - doesn't the magazine block the scope view?

        • Tyler from USA:

          No, same as the original swarm, the view through the scope is unobstructed

      • jason from USA asked:

        Holy smurf when did this come out?

        • Tyler from USA:

          Introduced at SHOT show 2018 in January

      • Phillip from USA asked:

        Can you pre order this rifle?

        • Tyler from USA:

          Not yet

      • michael from USA asked:

        For a hundred dollars more than the standard rifle , Gamo should have offered the rifle with the wooden deluxe stock they use on the European Elite model. Why not?

        • Tyler from USA:

          You'll get no argument from me

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