While I had the rifle field stripped, somehow the charging handle came loose and fell out of the upper receiver. It looks like this has stretched the spring that is attached to the charging handle. Although the gun still shoots fine, I would prefer that it was in 100% shape. Has anyone completely disassembled and removed the spring? I detached it from the charging handle but It is anchored to part of the upper receiver. How is it removed?
What are the muzzle threads?
In regards to stock replacement: is the buffer tube considered mil-spec or commercial-spec?
It fits milspec but they wobble
I would like to add a rail to the existing hand guard, which should I get: MOE, M-LOK , or ????
Thanks, I just attached enough picatinny rail to the underside of the handguard to mount a pistol light. The handguard came off very easily.
Totally up to you, seems like M-Lok is all the rage right now
WHY SUCH TERRIBLE ACCURACY? More of a shotgun pattern than single shot BB gun. All Show and No Go. More of a novelty than anything else.
The 1st HB I received was horrible when it comes to accuracy. The BB's looked as if they were curveballs coming out of the barrel. Also my gun was extremely under powered shooting in the mid 300's. I sent it back because it was obviously defective and I will provide an in-depth review based on the performance of the 2nd rifle. I provided my experience with the 1st rifle under Reviews, see "Hook's" review (i.e. John)
My barrel was loose and the front sight was canted to the left about 5 degrees. RMA, new one on the way, it was shooting 18 inches right at 10 yards. I have high hopes for the replacement. As a comparison I have the Sig Sauer pellet gun with 30 round mags, it is very accurate, but its a rifled pellet gun...All in all I liked the Hellboy, right size and weight for what I am doing with it.
Two things: 1) I'd like to think I was stable enough to see what the gun can do. 2) My personal view/expectation of BB gun accuracy is not the same as it is for pellet guns. I wasn't terribly impressed with the Hellboy in the accuracy department, but I will reserve further judgement until I get the DPMS and some other similar BB guns on the range to test for accuracy. Having heard from other Hellboy owners, it sounds like many are getting much better accuracy that I did.
Checked it out again and looks steady to me. Sounds like ya just making up excuses for the rifle.........vested interest? Tyler will tell you he's not the best shot but I do know that when he does a review I know he does his best to shoot to the best of his abilities rested or not regardless of the gun review. 10 yards is not asking a lot for a BB!
Watch the guy in the video. He's shooting unsupported. Watch the muzzle. He's aiming all over the place. It's the shooter not the gun. If you properly support that gun on a bag rest the shot pattern will close right up.
How many shots per co2 cartridge?
90-100 on an 80F day pausing a few seconds between shots.
Can the handguard be replaced?
Yes, it is a carbine length hand-guard and your replacement must be compatible with a GI collar mounting set up.
blowback? and how light is the trigger
The trigger on mine is around 6.5 lbs. With a clean break, just a lot of take up.
Is the stock a sturdy and replaceable AR stock or like the cheap plastic one on the M4-177 pump version from Crosman? Does the charging handle function?
It's replaceable. Measure the buffer tube diameter. Mil-spec is 1.148 inches, commercial is 1.168 inches.
My HellBoy M4 arrived today and I can assure you that the stock is not like the crosman m4-177 stock!
Milspec stocks will fit it, but they do wobble a little bit. About the same as putting one on a steel force or a Winchester mp4. The charge handle does knock the ejection port door open but only reliably with the mag in place.
It is replaceable. The buffer tube is aluminum, the buttstock itself is a pretty durable plastic. Yes, the charging handle does function. Though, all it does it open the ejection port, it does not need to be operated to cock the gun.
So I hear this has no blow block or internal moving parts when shooting, is this true?
It has actually very little "feedback" on a shot. You'd almost think it was a way underpowered shot and it is very quiet.
It does not have blow back
can i replace the handguard with a real ar15 handguard
That's great news! I would rather install a quad rail hand guard.
Yes, it is a carbine length hand-guard and must be compatible with a GI collar mounting set up.
What are real chronograph results for this Co2 AirGun? I sure hope that "495 fps" is realistic because it would be nice to be able to shoot at targets from 10 meters/30+ ft. away.
I chrono'd 100 rounds through mine when I got it and my highest velocity was 483FPS. Average velocity was 423. And I was using Umarex 56.1 gr BB's and Crosman C02. I feel that is actually better than what is advertised. A simple change in C02 or BB brand can increase or decrease these numbers. I'm happy with the way they are as is. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And the accuracy is always there out to 25 ft.
Thanks for your reply! I bit the bullet and ordered my very own hellboy m4 and look forward to its arrival :)
I will be testing one shortly, preliminary numbers from mine are actually a little higher than 495....so, so far so good
I was SO Stoked when i saw this and THEN realized its BB only. I cant believe that. Why in the world make this BB only. I would have bought it in a heartbeat. A very serious blunder in my book. Please pass the word on, this needs to have a pellet option. :(
The heavier copper coated lead BB's are a good alternative to steel BB's, but the barrel is still a smoothbore, so without rifling the accuracy from longer distance will suffer.
Go for the SiG Sauer mcx or mpx if you want Co2 pellet rifles in the M4 tacticool style.
At least with the existing magazine style, it wouldn't be possible...but you never know what may come out down the road
When is the hellboy going to be available
Should be available by the end of May
Can't believe this came through as a semi-auto only. Does it look like a warrantee busting simple conversion may? be possible like with the Uzi pistol?
Is it possible, probably, but because of the way the trigger and hammer function it would likely require a pretty major internal overhaul
Any ideas on why the trigger is shaped that way? seems out of place considering everything else looks spot on with an actual AR 15.
It's a result of the amount of movement in the trigger mech. The trigger is set further forward and has a longer travel because of the sear design. So it's not the shape as much as the placement that is different.