Date: 15/10/2018 22:38
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Customers Q&A on HellBoy .177 CO2 BB Tactical Air Rifle, Black

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  • Gregory from Canada asked:

    While I had the rifle field stripped, somehow the charging handle came loose and fell out of the upper receiver. It looks like this has stretched the spring that is attached to the charging handle. Although the gun still shoots fine, I would prefer that it was in 100% shape. Has anyone completely disassembled and removed the spring? I detached it from the charging handle but It is anchored to part of the upper receiver. How is it removed?

    • randy from USA asked:

      What are the muzzle threads?

      • Glenn from USA:

        14mm

    • Stephen from USA asked:

      In regards to stock replacement: is the buffer tube considered mil-spec or commercial-spec?

      • chris from USA:

        It fits milspec but they wobble

    • Gregory from Canada asked:

      I would like to add a rail to the existing hand guard, which should I get: MOE, M-LOK , or ????

      • Gregory from Canada:

        Thanks, I just attached enough picatinny rail to the underside of the handguard to mount a pistol light. The handguard came off very easily.

      • Tyler from USA:

        Totally up to you, seems like M-Lok is all the rage right now

    • Matt from USA asked:

      WHY SUCH TERRIBLE ACCURACY? More of a shotgun pattern than single shot BB gun. All Show and No Go. More of a novelty than anything else.

      • John from USA:

        The 1st HB I received was horrible when it comes to accuracy. The BB's looked as if they were curveballs coming out of the barrel. Also my gun was extremely under powered shooting in the mid 300's. I sent it back because it was obviously defective and I will provide an in-depth review based on the performance of the 2nd rifle. I provided my experience with the 1st rifle under Reviews, see "Hook's" review (i.e. John)

      • Mike from USA:

        My barrel was loose and the front sight was canted to the left about 5 degrees. RMA, new one on the way, it was shooting 18 inches right at 10 yards. I have high hopes for the replacement. As a comparison I have the Sig Sauer pellet gun with 30 round mags, it is very accurate, but its a rifled pellet gun...All in all I liked the Hellboy, right size and weight for what I am doing with it.

      • Tyler from USA:

        Two things: 1) I'd like to think I was stable enough to see what the gun can do. 2) My personal view/expectation of BB gun accuracy is not the same as it is for pellet guns. I wasn't terribly impressed with the Hellboy in the accuracy department, but I will reserve further judgement until I get the DPMS and some other similar BB guns on the range to test for accuracy. Having heard from other Hellboy owners, it sounds like many are getting much better accuracy that I did.

      • Matt from USA:

        Checked it out again and looks steady to me. Sounds like ya just making up excuses for the rifle.........vested interest? Tyler will tell you he's not the best shot but I do know that when he does a review I know he does his best to shoot to the best of his abilities rested or not regardless of the gun review. 10 yards is not asking a lot for a BB!

      • Unknown Infidel from USA:

        Watch the guy in the video. He's shooting unsupported. Watch the muzzle. He's aiming all over the place. It's the shooter not the gun. If you properly support that gun on a bag rest the shot pattern will close right up.

    • Mitch from USA asked:

      How many shots per co2 cartridge?

      • Tyler from USA:

        90-100 on an 80F day pausing a few seconds between shots.

    • Jamaal from USA asked:

      Can the handguard be replaced?

      • Tyler from USA:

        Yes, it is a carbine length hand-guard and your replacement must be compatible with a GI collar mounting set up.

    • Mark from USA asked:

      blowback? and how light is the trigger

      • Mark from USA:

        No blowback.

      • Tyler from USA:

        The trigger on mine is around 6.5 lbs. With a clean break, just a lot of take up.

    • anthony from USA asked:

      Is the stock a sturdy and replaceable AR stock or like the cheap plastic one on the M4-177 pump version from Crosman? Does the charging handle function?

      • Mark from USA:

        It's replaceable. Measure the buffer tube diameter. Mil-spec is 1.148 inches, commercial is 1.168 inches.

      • Gregory from Canada:

        My HellBoy M4 arrived today and I can assure you that the stock is not like the crosman m4-177 stock!

      • Hook from USA:

        Milspec stocks will fit it, but they do wobble a little bit. About the same as putting one on a steel force or a Winchester mp4. The charge handle does knock the ejection port door open but only reliably with the mag in place.

      • Tyler from USA:

        It is replaceable. The buffer tube is aluminum, the buttstock itself is a pretty durable plastic. Yes, the charging handle does function. Though, all it does it open the ejection port, it does not need to be operated to cock the gun.

    • Jamaal from USA asked:

      So I hear this has no blow block or internal moving parts when shooting, is this true?

      • Hook from USA:

        It has actually very little "feedback" on a shot. You'd almost think it was a way underpowered shot and it is very quiet.

      • Tyler from USA:

        It does not have blow back

    • Mark from USA asked:

      can i replace the handguard with a real ar15 handguard

      • Gregory from Canada:

        That's great news! I would rather install a quad rail hand guard.

      • Tyler from USA:

        Yes, it is a carbine length hand-guard and must be compatible with a GI collar mounting set up.

    • Gregory from Canada asked:

      What are real chronograph results for this Co2 AirGun? I sure hope that "495 fps" is realistic because it would be nice to be able to shoot at targets from 10 meters/30+ ft. away.

      • Jeffrey from USA:

        I chrono'd 100 rounds through mine when I got it and my highest velocity was 483FPS. Average velocity was 423. And I was using Umarex 56.1 gr BB's and Crosman C02. I feel that is actually better than what is advertised. A simple change in C02 or BB brand can increase or decrease these numbers. I'm happy with the way they are as is. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And the accuracy is always there out to 25 ft.

      • Gregory from Canada:

        Thanks for your reply! I bit the bullet and ordered my very own hellboy m4 and look forward to its arrival :)

      • Tyler from USA:

        I will be testing one shortly, preliminary numbers from mine are actually a little higher than 495....so, so far so good

    • Paul from USA asked:

      I was SO Stoked when i saw this and THEN realized its BB only. I cant believe that. Why in the world make this BB only. I would have bought it in a heartbeat. A very serious blunder in my book. Please pass the word on, this needs to have a pellet option. :(

      • Gregory from Canada:

        The heavier copper coated lead BB's are a good alternative to steel BB's, but the barrel is still a smoothbore, so without rifling the accuracy from longer distance will suffer.

      • Gregory from Canada:

        Go for the SiG Sauer mcx or mpx if you want Co2 pellet rifles in the M4 tacticool style.

      • Tyler from USA:

        At least with the existing magazine style, it wouldn't be possible...but you never know what may come out down the road

    • Bob from USA asked:

      When is the hellboy going to be available

      • Tyler from USA:

        Should be available by the end of May

    • Bob M from USA asked:

      Can't believe this came through as a semi-auto only. Does it look like a warrantee busting simple conversion may? be possible like with the Uzi pistol?

      • Tyler from USA:

        Is it possible, probably, but because of the way the trigger and hammer function it would likely require a pretty major internal overhaul

    • Dennis from USA asked:

      Any ideas on why the trigger is shaped that way? seems out of place considering everything else looks spot on with an actual AR 15.

      • Tyler from USA:

        It's a result of the amount of movement in the trigger mech. The trigger is set further forward and has a longer travel because of the sear design. So it's not the shape as much as the placement that is different.

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