What is the barrel twist rate?
Would it be acceptable to put and barrel clamp bipod on the end of the barrel shroud on the Seneca aspen PCP air rifle
I dont think that would be a good idea, because there is a spacer on the barrel that connects it to the shroud. So when ever the bipod is connected to the gun, it would pull the barrel down when the gun is not resting on the bipod, and push the barrel up when it is resting on the bipod. So your point of impact would keep changing
Seneca aspen Barrel outside dimension
When you say Barrel, do you mean Barrel or shroud? Just want to be sure.
Can a silencer be adapted to the Seneca aspen PCP air rifle ?
Not directly, DonnyFL makes an adapter that connects to the shroud, that has a 1/2 UNF thread so a sliencer will fit. They cost $40 as of 11/6/2020
i just bought a seneca aspen in .22. I like everything about it except the air leak i cant figure out. Is this a common problem? If so, is there an easy fix? I really dont want to send it back...
Mine also has an occasional air leak. I can not see any pressure change and only lasts for a few minutes at a time, so I just let it do its thing. But if its still under warranty Pyramyd Air has excellent customer service and they will fix it for you. Just give them a call.
Can the Hammer Spring be replaced with a stronger one? Anyone know the Hammer Springs K value? Even the dimensions will do because after watching the video, the best power was attained at approximately 2,929 psi for 36.8 fpe; thereafter, the power decreases, BUT! the efficiency went up and up from 9.4% at 3600 psi to 13.59% at 2,929 psi. I wish the Pyramid video had stated how many pumps it took to re-pump after 8 shots to 2,500 psi and then back up to 3,600 psi, (80 pumps from atmosphere 0 psi to 3,600 psi). Numbers don't lie, but you can lie with numbers and the laws of physics are not just really good ideas. Thank you
What is the volume of the cylinder?
50 cc. The Air Venturi Avenger has a 180 cc cylinder
Approx 200 cc
what is the barrel length?
What are the best .25 pellets to use for max power out of the Aspen?
A pellet that weighs between 25 & 34 grains.
Is the Air Venturi rebuild kit for AV-4590 HPT Carbon Filter Air Tank made for Seneca Aspen air rifle.
No.For Aspen repair e-mail: [email protected],com.
I bought the aspen in 22 cal. in march of 2019. Had to return it because it wouldn't take aair when pumped The new one worked good for about 50 shots then pump handle locked up. I oiled it good and kept pulling on the handle and it started pumping. I continued fighting with the pump mechanism until oct. 2019, when I had to quit because of cancer. kept it locked in gunsafe with 2000 psi. It still had 2000 psi intil july 2020 when my health improved and shot one fill. I put it up and next day the guage read 0. Been fighting with it ever since and am really discouraged with the rifle. I thought for $399.00 I would get a better product. Really discouraged with Pyramyd for selling such a shoddy gun. Looking for a rebuild kit to try to repair gun. No luck so far. You'd think in such a situation Pyramyd would do a recall. .
Pyramyd Air will repair your Aspen.e-mail [email protected] The pump unit can be replaced.
Are they still producing the Aspen? I see that it's listed to be in stock next month, but I saw that it was discontinued on a different site.
I just ordered one on 8-31-2020
The Aspen is still being produced. The Covid-19 pandemic has significantly disrupted production.
Does anyone know if you can order a side lever action connecting rod for my Seneca Alpine. Mine bent and I need a replacement.
E-mail: [email protected] they can get you the parts.
Okay, narrowed my choice to .22 but it has no sights. Do you have fiber optic open sights and mounts that you recommend?
There is no front sight available for the Aspen. You would have to have one custom made.
If I order an In Stock .177 will it have the fixed pump? When the new stock arrives of the .22 and .25 models in August,will they have the fixed pump?
The current stock has some better o-rings. The Aug shipment will have the fully upgraded pump units.
I've only ever had wooden stocks. Is the Aspen's "Synthetic" stock just a euphemism for a plastic stock no different from the inexpensive Daisy and Walmart models? Or is there something different about the Aspen stock material?
Synthetic is a plastic stock.
Will the gun still work with an external pump after the integrated pump breaks or would that mess up the whole gun?
No. You can not fill the gun to full power with the out using the hand pump.
Is there a hand pump available for the Aspen?
Any of the hand pumps can be used on the Aspen.
What is the barrel length?
Have the early pump issues been corrected?
Current production guns have a upgraded pump unit. Most refurb guns have upgraded pump units fitted.
Have the pump issues with this gun been corrected?
The next shipments will have upgraded pump units. Most refurbed guns have upgraded pumps.
Just received the Seneca Aspen .22 cal. The trigger is very loose and feels like it's going to fall off. Anyone else have this same problem?
The Aspen trigger is sloppy-loose until cocked. That is normal.
Are the refurbs fitted with the updated pump units?
My question is about water. Since we are taking ambient air with a relative humidity probably from 30 to 50 percent and compressing it to maybe 200 Bar, water will condense out. Is there a provision to remove it so the condensed water which will wet every thing and will mostly remain even after all of the pressure has been reduced? Is internal rust and corrosion thefore going to be a major problem after just a little use? It seems that doing the pressure fill from a bottle seems advisable.
Compressors ,especially dive compressors, have very effective moisture trap systems. The lighter compressors we sell have trap systems that are reasonably effective. We have add-on filter units that up the moisture trapping systems. These keep the moisture issue at a low level.
Can the Umarex RWS Chamber Lube be safely used on the internal 3 stage pump oh the Seneca Aspen?
To lube a hand pump you are better off using silicone grease. It stays where you apply it much more effectively. Hill Hand Pump NLGI 2... $9.95
Does the Seneca Aspen come with the hand pump?
The Aspen does not come with an additional pump.
Does the Seneca Aspen come with the silicone oil?
Mine came with a bottle.
Are there aftermarket open sights that will fit this gun
rear sights-yes front sights -no. It would have to be custom made.
I'm fairly new to air guns, but am a life long shooter, with an entire military career under my belt....so I know guns and shooting. I've been looking at this gun, but am concerned by the number of people who've reported failures with the air system....so in as few as 50-60 rounds. I own, and can shoot springers, and value accuracy....but an urked that the "support gear" for PCPs cost more then the guns. Anyway..... thoughts and comments of the air system failure(s) is appreciated! Last thing I want is a gun that has to be returned.
There are issues with the Aspen. We have new improved pump units but there is no long term info on the upgrade. We do honor the warranty for a year after purchase. A top break barrel like the Beeman R9 is a alternative choice. The underlever guns,the AA TX200 or the HW97 are first rate,but more expensive.
Can I shoot with .22 slug 15-25 grain?
You can, but that is very heavy for the power available from the Aspen. It will shoot at a very low velocity. The slugs will probably not fit in the magazine.
What are the heaviest gr that people have fired with the .25 Aspen? Debating on this or the Seneca Sumatra 2500. Aspen is tempting as all in one. No accessories required and i'm just starting out. I don't want to lose to much FPE though.
Can this use a .44 or 47 grain slug. I have the .25...but I dont want to waste money by buying ammo that I can't use. Thanx for your advise in advance
No. That is way too heavy to shoot well.
Where can I purchase a replacement burst disk?
The burst discs are available thru Air Venturi or Pyramyd Air.
The nova freedom I have now was overpumped and its Pressure safety disk burst..Can I fix it myself?
Yes. A replacement burst disc can be gently hammered in.
The gun came with two small orings . What size are they I have to replace them.
Looking at a UTG 4x16x44 with 30mm tube, SWAT scope what mount rings would I need medium or high?
I have the same exact scope you need medium rings
You need high rings
How reliable is this rifle have seen some negative post on other sites
I over pumped my NF, does anyone know how to reset this, so I dont have to send it back?
Shoot it down. Over pumping once will not hurt the gun.
What type of lubricant should be used on the seals and pump?
100% Silicone oil. Use very little.
Hello, I have the nova freedom brought the UTG bug buster scope but the rings are too big what size do I need to make this work? Thanks
The Bug Buster comes with weaver rings. You need 11MM dovetail rings.
What velocities were you seeing from the 25 Cal in the video with the 33 grain jsbs?
I'm coming from a Gammo Swarm. Can I leave this pressurized for extended periods?
Yes. You want to leave 800-1000 PSI in any PCP to keep the seals tight.
Anybody else having problems with the pump mechanism on this rifle? Im waiting for my third replacement, firt two the pump started having issues first out of the box was bad second one lasted me about three weeks (250 shoots) really like the design hopefully the third one is ok.
My pump locked up after about 100 shots, just getting my replacement set up.
Mine started to get hard to pump with in the first10 shots. I put around 10 drops into the oiling port in the pump chamber and it been working good ever since I bought the rifle back in March. It's a power house. To keep the pump working right just make sure to keep it lubed with the silicone oil included.
Max velocity with 16.54 gr. .25 cal. pellet
We do not test the Aspen with 16.54 grain pellets.
Can you suppress it
Its already very quiet
How many shots per tank fill out of this gun in the .25 caliber?
Fill it once and then pump it up 3-4 times every shot or every other shot and you will not have to really worry about how many shots you will get.
Fill it once and then pump it up 3-4 times every shot or every other shot and you will not have to really worry about how many shots you will get.
Does anybody know if the scope that comes with the Aspen will survive on a springer. I'm not talking hundreds of shots but just maybe 10 or 20?
What would be the biggest game this could take down in either .22 or .25 caliber? I think at least rabbit and birds, but wondering if it would take down small to medium feral pigs in Texas. Thinking about it as a prepper/small game gun.
In the 22 and 25 it can take out birds, rodents, and other small furry mammals no problem. You're pushing your luck trying to kill a hog of any size with the 25 unless you're maybe 7 yards away. look at the Hatsan Carnivore in 30 cal if you want a good prepper gun.
I know this rifle comes with a little scope, id rather replace it with a 3-12, any suggestions as to what scope and rings would work well with this rifle? Thanks!!
I replace mine with a 3-12 UTG swat side AO with a 30mm tube. I used the scope rings provided with the scope which were for picatinny rail but used so UTG adapters to dovetail rail.
It's all going to come down to personal preference. I would look into UTG or hawke with some dovetail rings.
How far into the chamber does the bolt push the pellet? Is there a small teat (extension) on the end of the bolt to seat the pellet? If so, how long is it? Thanks!
Is it safe to store it full of air, partially full or should I bleed all the air out during storage?
you can leave it full.
I have an ATM Night Vision Scope to mount on the .22 Seneca PCP Pump air rifle and would like to know what is the proper mount as the ATM Scope needs the Picatinny Rail,,, So what mount will I need here?
Hello Jordan, I will look into that,, Thank you,,,
I would get a picatinny to dovetail offset adapter rail.
What scope mount do I need to put a Dovetail to Picatinny on this rifle? As I have a ATM Night [and day ]Vision Scope that I want to use on it.
When will fill probes be available as a spare just in case I lose or misplace mine? Scary thought of losing it because that makes the gun unusable. Or is their a compatible probe in that vast market of PCP manufactures? Thanks
You realize the gun has a built in pump, right? So the fill probe is not required to fill the gun. That said, yes, fill probes will be available.
Has anyone experienced the hand pump not filling their rifle?
Yes i problems with two rifles already, waiting for the third replacement
What is the thread size for the end of the shroud?
The shroud threads are M24 x 1 female.
Anybody have an idea how reliable the pump is going to be on this gun? I'm not to crazy about having to rebuild the pump on this thing every 100 or 200 hundred shots. I've been watching the vids on rebuilding the Benjamin hand pump and read the reviews for it and am afraid this gun can have the same problems.
Im on the third replacement already, first two had issues with the pump, hope the third is ok, i love the rifle very accurate
I have put 8 packs of pellets so far through mine and have had no problems as long as I keep oil on the pump head I havent had a problem
I've got a few tins of pellets through one of these with no pump issues
Is there any lubricant in the box? Which lubricant for pump head? Which lubricant for pump assembly pivot points and general lubrication?
There's a bottle of silicone oil that comes with the rifle
I prefer silicone oil , Crosman Silicone Chamber Oil...
Sling swivel anchors?
It does have sling swivel studs on the stock, just a matter of getting a sling that has swivels on it like this: GrovTec Mountaineer Rifle Sling &...
How come the gun in the pictures clearly has it marked as a .25 cal 6.35mm but you dont seem to offer that caliber for sale?
Maybe because it's not available for pre-orders just yet?
Given skills and fancy tools, would it be possible to shorten the shroud to expose 1/4" of actual barrel beyond the shroud? Strangely, I want to defeat any sound moderating devices. Anyone with experience shooting the gun for accuracy without the shroud?
Just remove the end cap of the shroud and it will be loud.
The shroud kind of holds the barrel in position. But it would be a simple matter to 'shorten' the shroud to do what he wants.
Why not just remove the shroud? It is possible to remove it.
If they come out with.25 before I get my .22 can I change my order to the.25.
Give the PA sales dept a call, they should be able to assist.
Do you know if the scope is 30mm or 1 inch. I have 1 inch UTG I want to put on it. I need to know Incase I need to buy a new set of scope Rings.
does the scope arrive sited in? Probably not I mostly likely have to take the 20 for $20 deal correct? How accurate is this rifle out of the box? How easy is it to pump to 60 pumps?
No, the scope does not arrive sighted in. 20/$20 service would be the best option to get it sighted in. If you keep the pressure in the optimum range, the two or three I've shot have been very accurate out to 50 yards. Definitely squirrels head accurate at that distance. Pumping isn't too tough in my opinion, though 60 continuous strokes will take a toll. Best to fill it up and then maintain a consistent pressure range by pumping a few times every shot or two.
Is the trigger plastic or metal
Did anyone notice that on the second to last pic its a .25 6.35mm. Thats the one I want.
.25 will be available for pre-order in due time. No firm date yet
Says "side lever" - but since pic is not very clear, I assume it actually folds "down" - not to the side? Does the velocity / power of each shot fall off as the pressure in the tank declines? IE first shot is the most powerful, then all subsequent shots fall off from there. OR is it only as the tank gets quite low that you notice a difference?
The side lever refers to the cocking bolt. The pump itself is located on the underside of the gun. No, if you were to fill the rifle to 3600 psi, it will preform the same way any unregulated PCP does, the velocity will come up until you hit the sweet spot (usually between 2000-2700 psi in .177 and .22) and then decline once you are beyond it. The idea is to use the pump to keep your pressure constantly in the sweet spot.
Any idea on how much this weighs in .22?
The rifle weighs 8 lbs, the caliber doesn't change that
What's the weight of the .22 version?
The gun weighs 8 lbs
can this gun use Benjamin air gun mags?
Yes, Marauder rifle magazines will work in this rifle
Is the end of the shroud threaded so you can add a moderator?
Yes, though the rifle is pretty quiet as is
Will the Seneca Aspen be offered in .25 caliber?
Look at the front page of the manual. 3 calibers are listed, with an 8 shot magazine in .25.
I have heard whispers of that possibility, but nothing firm yet
Will Pyramyd repair a nova freedom if need. If you paid for it
Send the freedom back to ATI and they'll exchange it if still under warranty
do it yo self ,very easy to work on !!!
You would have to call the tech department and ask at PA and ask.
Does the gun include any kind of dessicant to absorb moisture when pumping? If so, what maintenance does that require?
There is not an internal desiccant filter
What size are the scope rings? High?
Look more like medium height to me
Who makes the scope that comes with the Seneca aspen?
It comes with the gun from China. It's not a name brand like Leapers or Hawke
Hello any chance for this rifle to be ship to Canada? If yes, what are the steps? thank you.
Not that I can see.
Where is this rifle made in
Tyler, When HAM tested it they didn't really address the pump. What kind of spread do you get when you shoot, pump twice, shoot, pump twice...or something like that?
I shoot one time then pump 5 to 6 times then shoot again. You are the regulator and so the velocity stays very consistent and it heats the pump up less for less wear and tear on the pump. I got a 14 fps spread on a 10 shot string using this method. By the way, I try to keep the pressure right between 3k down to around 2600 psi. It seems to be the sweet spot.
Because you'd be basically self regulating the pressure that way, it should be very consistent. Probably 10-15 fps or less. The gun over the course of a fill, when in the optimum pressure range will produce 10-15 fps spreads on high power without pumping after each shot, so keeping the pressure consistent should maintain at least that spread or better it.
Wait. Isnt this the Nova Freedom?
Same gun, just with a scope instead of open sights.
Can you also fill air with a tank too?
Yeah. Check out the product manual here to see how you would fill it from an external source: https://www.pyramydair.com/airgun-resources/manuals/Seneca-Aspen-PCP-air-rifle-manual.pdf
This is very appealing product. Approximately how many pumps to fill after one 10 shot mag at high pressure?
Depends on your power setting, but typically it's 3-5 pumps per shot on high power, 2-3 on low power. So between 30-50 pumps to get it back to the starting pressure after one mag. I find it easier to take a few shots 2-3 and then pump 10-15 times. Breaks it up and makes it a lot less labor intensive, or at least that's how it feels to me