Date: 7/8/2020 20:58
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Customers Q&A on Seneca Aspen PCP Air Rifle

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  • james from USA asked:

    Is the Air Venturi rebuild kit for AV-4590 HPT Carbon Filter Air Tank made for Seneca Aspen air rifle.

  • james from USA asked:

    I bought the aspen in 22 cal. in march of 2019. Had to return it because it wouldn't take aair when pumped The new one worked good for about 50 shots then pump handle locked up. I oiled it good and kept pulling on the handle and it started pumping. I continued fighting with the pump mechanism until oct. 2019, when I had to quit because of cancer. kept it locked in gunsafe with 2000 psi. It still had 2000 psi intil july 2020 when my health improved and shot one fill. I put it up and next day the guage read 0. Been fighting with it ever since and am really discouraged with the rifle. I thought for $399.00 I would get a better product. Really discouraged with Pyramyd for selling such a shoddy gun. Looking for a rebuild kit to try to repair gun. No luck so far. You'd think in such a situation Pyramyd would do a recall. .

    • Mark from USA:

      Pyramyd Air will repair your Aspen.e-mail [email protected] The pump unit can be replaced.

  • Jeffery from USA asked:

    Are they still producing the Aspen? I see that it's listed to be in stock next month, but I saw that it was discontinued on a different site.

    • Mark from USA:

      The Aspen is still being produced. The Covid-19 pandemic has significantly disrupted production.

  • John from USA asked:

    Does anyone know if you can order a side lever action connecting rod for my Seneca Alpine. Mine bent and I need a replacement.

  • Les from USA asked:

    Okay, narrowed my choice to .22 but it has no sights. Do you have fiber optic open sights and mounts that you recommend?

    • Mark from USA:

      There is no front sight available for the Aspen. You would have to have one custom made.

  • Les from USA asked:

    If I order an In Stock .177 will it have the fixed pump? When the new stock arrives of the .22 and .25 models in August,will they have the fixed pump?

    • Mark from USA:

      The current stock has some better o-rings. The Aug shipment will have the fully upgraded pump units.

  • Les from USA asked:

    I've only ever had wooden stocks. Is the Aspen's "Synthetic" stock just a euphemism for a plastic stock no different from the inexpensive Daisy and Walmart models? Or is there something different about the Aspen stock material?

    • Mark from USA:

      Synthetic is a plastic stock.

  • Samuel from USA asked:

    Will the gun still work with an external pump after the integrated pump breaks or would that mess up the whole gun?

    • Mark from USA:

      No. You can not fill the gun to full power with the out using the hand pump.

  • Robert from USA asked:

    Is there a hand pump available for the Aspen?

    • Mark from USA:

      Any of the hand pumps can be used on the Aspen.

  • Francisco from USA asked:

    What is the barrel length?

    • Mark from USA:

      18"

  • mark from USA asked:

    Have the early pump issues been corrected?

    • Mark from USA:

      Current production guns have a upgraded pump unit. Most refurb guns have upgraded pump units fitted.

  • mark from USA asked:

    Have the pump issues with this gun been corrected?

    • Mark from USA:

      The next shipments will have upgraded pump units. Most refurbed guns have upgraded pumps.

  • Mertz, from USA asked:

    Just received the Seneca Aspen .22 cal. The trigger is very loose and feels like it's going to fall off. Anyone else have this same problem?

    • Mark from USA:

      The Aspen trigger is sloppy-loose until cocked. That is normal.

  • Ryan from USA asked:

    Are the refurbs fitted with the updated pump units?

    • Mark from USA:

      Yes

  • John from USA asked:

    My question is about water. Since we are taking ambient air with a relative humidity probably from 30 to 50 percent and compressing it to maybe 200 Bar, water will condense out. Is there a provision to remove it so the condensed water which will wet every thing and will mostly remain even after all of the pressure has been reduced? Is internal rust and corrosion thefore going to be a major problem after just a little use? It seems that doing the pressure fill from a bottle seems advisable.

    • Mark from USA:

      Compressors ,especially dive compressors, have very effective moisture trap systems. The lighter compressors we sell have trap systems that are reasonably effective. We have add-on filter units that up the moisture trapping systems. These keep the moisture issue at a low level.

  • Don from USA asked:

    Can the Umarex RWS Chamber Lube be safely used on the internal 3 stage pump oh the Seneca Aspen?

    • Mark from USA:

      To lube a hand pump you are better off using silicone grease. It stays where you apply it much more effectively. Hill Hand Pump NLGI 2... $9.95

  • Orlando from USA asked:

    Does the Seneca Aspen come with the hand pump?

    • Mark from USA:

      The Aspen does not come with an additional pump.

  • Andrew from USA asked:

    Does the Seneca Aspen come with the silicone oil?

    • Gary from USA:

      Mine came with a bottle.

    • Mark from USA:

      No

  • Jack from USA asked:

    Are there aftermarket open sights that will fit this gun

    • Mark from USA:

      rear sights-yes front sights -no. It would have to be custom made.

  • Edward from USA asked:

    I'm fairly new to air guns, but am a life long shooter, with an entire military career under my belt....so I know guns and shooting. I've been looking at this gun, but am concerned by the number of people who've reported failures with the air system....so in as few as 50-60 rounds. I own, and can shoot springers, and value accuracy....but an urked that the "support gear" for PCPs cost more then the guns. Anyway..... thoughts and comments of the air system failure(s) is appreciated! Last thing I want is a gun that has to be returned.

    • Mark from USA:

      There are issues with the Aspen. We have new improved pump units but there is no long term info on the upgrade. We do honor the warranty for a year after purchase. A top break barrel like the Beeman R9 is a alternative choice. The underlever guns,the AA TX200 or the HW97 are first rate,but more expensive.

  • Kittinun from USA asked:

    Can I shoot with .22 slug 15-25 grain?

    • Mark from USA:

      You can, but that is very heavy for the power available from the Aspen. It will shoot at a very low velocity. The slugs will probably not fit in the magazine.

  • Steven from USA asked:

    What are the heaviest gr that people have fired with the .25 Aspen? Debating on this or the Seneca Sumatra 2500. Aspen is tempting as all in one. No accessories required and i'm just starting out. I don't want to lose to much FPE though.

    • Sean from USA asked:

      Can this use a .44 or 47 grain slug. I have the .25...but I dont want to waste money by buying ammo that I can't use. Thanx for your advise in advance

      • Mark from USA:

        No. That is way too heavy to shoot well.

    • Ray from USA asked:

      Where can I purchase a replacement burst disk?

      • Mark from USA:

        The burst discs are available thru Air Venturi or Pyramyd Air.

    • Ray from USA asked:

      The nova freedom I have now was overpumped and its Pressure safety disk burst..Can I fix it myself?

      • Mark from USA:

        Yes. A replacement burst disc can be gently hammered in.

    • Keith from USA asked:

      The gun came with two small orings . What size are they I have to replace them.

      • DaveMac from USA asked:

        Looking at a UTG 4x16x44 with 30mm tube, SWAT scope what mount rings would I need medium or high?

        • ahmonde from USA:

          I have the same exact scope you need medium rings

        • Mark from USA:

          You need high rings

      • charlie from USA asked:

        How reliable is this rifle have seen some negative post on other sites

        • eddie from USA asked:

          I over pumped my NF, does anyone know how to reset this, so I dont have to send it back?

          • Mark from USA:

            Shoot it down. Over pumping once will not hurt the gun.

        • DaveMac from USA asked:

          What type of lubricant should be used on the seals and pump?

          • Mark from USA:

            100% Silicone oil. Use very little.

        • eddie from USA asked:

          Hello, I have the nova freedom brought the UTG bug buster scope but the rings are too big what size do I need to make this work? Thanks

          • Mark from USA:

            The Bug Buster comes with weaver rings. You need 11MM dovetail rings.

        • Mika from USA asked:

          What velocities were you seeing from the 25 Cal in the video with the 33 grain jsbs?

          • Michael from USA asked:

            I'm coming from a Gammo Swarm. Can I leave this pressurized for extended periods?

            • Mark from USA:

              Yes. You want to leave 800-1000 PSI in any PCP to keep the seals tight.

          • jesus from USA asked:

            Anybody else having problems with the pump mechanism on this rifle? Im waiting for my third replacement, firt two the pump started having issues first out of the box was bad second one lasted me about three weeks (250 shoots) really like the design hopefully the third one is ok.

            • Ben from USA:

              My pump locked up after about 100 shots, just getting my replacement set up.

            • Robert from USA:

              Mine started to get hard to pump with in the first10 shots. I put around 10 drops into the oiling port in the pump chamber and it been working good ever since I bought the rifle back in March. It's a power house. To keep the pump working right just make sure to keep it lubed with the silicone oil included.

          • Gerald from USA asked:

            Max velocity with 16.54 gr. .25 cal. pellet

            • Mark from USA:

              We do not test the Aspen with 16.54 grain pellets.

          • Gustavo from USA asked:

            Can you suppress it

            • jesus from USA:

              Its already very quiet

          • tyree from USA asked:

            How many shots per tank fill out of this gun in the .25 caliber?

            • Jordan from USA:

              Fill it once and then pump it up 3-4 times every shot or every other shot and you will not have to really worry about how many shots you will get.

            • Jordan from USA:

              Fill it once and then pump it up 3-4 times every shot or every other shot and you will not have to really worry about how many shots you will get.

          • Robert from USA asked:

            Does anybody know if the scope that comes with the Aspen will survive on a springer. I'm not talking hundreds of shots but just maybe 10 or 20?

            • Richard from USA asked:

              What would be the biggest game this could take down in either .22 or .25 caliber? I think at least rabbit and birds, but wondering if it would take down small to medium feral pigs in Texas. Thinking about it as a prepper/small game gun.

              • Derek from USA:

                In the 22 and 25 it can take out birds, rodents, and other small furry mammals no problem. You're pushing your luck trying to kill a hog of any size with the 25 unless you're maybe 7 yards away. look at the Hatsan Carnivore in 30 cal if you want a good prepper gun.

            • Ted from USA asked:

              I know this rifle comes with a little scope, id rather replace it with a 3-12, any suggestions as to what scope and rings would work well with this rifle? Thanks!!

              • Robert from USA:

                I replace mine with a 3-12 UTG swat side AO with a 30mm tube. I used the scope rings provided with the scope which were for picatinny rail but used so UTG adapters to dovetail rail.

              • Jordan from USA:

                It's all going to come down to personal preference. I would look into UTG or hawke with some dovetail rings.

            • Marcus from USA asked:

              How far into the chamber does the bolt push the pellet? Is there a small teat (extension) on the end of the bolt to seat the pellet? If so, how long is it? Thanks!

              • Paul UT from USA asked:

                Is it safe to store it full of air, partially full or should I bleed all the air out during storage?

                • Jordan from USA:

                  you can leave it full.

              • Mountain from USA asked:

                I have an ATM Night Vision Scope to mount on the .22 Seneca PCP Pump air rifle and would like to know what is the proper mount as the ATM Scope needs the Picatinny Rail,,, So what mount will I need here?

                • Mountain from USA:

                  Hello Jordan, I will look into that,, Thank you,,,

                • Jordan from USA:

                  I would get a picatinny to dovetail offset adapter rail.

              • Mountain from USA asked:

                What scope mount do I need to put a Dovetail to Picatinny on this rifle? As I have a ATM Night [and day ]Vision Scope that I want to use on it.

                • Jordan from USA:

                  its dovetail

              • Matt from USA asked:

                When will fill probes be available as a spare just in case I lose or misplace mine? Scary thought of losing it because that makes the gun unusable. Or is their a compatible probe in that vast market of PCP manufactures? Thanks

                • Tyler from USA:

                  You realize the gun has a built in pump, right? So the fill probe is not required to fill the gun. That said, yes, fill probes will be available.

              • joverton from USA asked:

                Has anyone experienced the hand pump not filling their rifle?

                • jesus from USA:

                  Yes i problems with two rifles already, waiting for the third replacement

              • Ed from USA asked:

                What is the thread size for the end of the shroud?

                • Mark from USA:

                  The shroud threads are M24 x 1 female.

              • Robert from USA asked:

                Anybody have an idea how reliable the pump is going to be on this gun? I'm not to crazy about having to rebuild the pump on this thing every 100 or 200 hundred shots. I've been watching the vids on rebuilding the Benjamin hand pump and read the reviews for it and am afraid this gun can have the same problems.

                • jesus from USA:

                  Im on the third replacement already, first two had issues with the pump, hope the third is ok, i love the rifle very accurate

                • Paul from USA:

                  I have put 8 packs of pellets so far through mine and have had no problems as long as I keep oil on the pump head I havent had a problem

                • Tyler from USA:

                  I've got a few tins of pellets through one of these with no pump issues

              • Shawn from USA asked:

                Is there any lubricant in the box? Which lubricant for pump head? Which lubricant for pump assembly pivot points and general lubrication?

              • Al. from USA asked:

                Sling swivel anchors?

              • william from USA asked:

                How come the gun in the pictures clearly has it marked as a .25 cal 6.35mm but you dont seem to offer that caliber for sale?

                • Tyler from USA:

                  Maybe because it's not available for pre-orders just yet?

              • Shawn from USA asked:

                Given skills and fancy tools, would it be possible to shorten the shroud to expose 1/4" of actual barrel beyond the shroud? Strangely, I want to defeat any sound moderating devices. Anyone with experience shooting the gun for accuracy without the shroud?

                • Robert from USA:

                  Just remove the end cap of the shroud and it will be loud.

                • Thomas from USA:

                  The shroud kind of holds the barrel in position. But it would be a simple matter to 'shorten' the shroud to do what he wants.

                • Tyler from USA:

                  Why not just remove the shroud? It is possible to remove it.

              • Paul from USA asked:

                If they come out with.25 before I get my .22 can I change my order to the.25.

                • Tyler from USA:

                  Give the PA sales dept a call, they should be able to assist.

              • Paul from USA asked:

                Do you know if the scope is 30mm or 1 inch. I have 1 inch UTG I want to put on it. I need to know Incase I need to buy a new set of scope Rings.

                • Tyler from USA:

                  1" tube

              • doda from USA asked:

                does the scope arrive sited in? Probably not I mostly likely have to take the 20 for $20 deal correct? How accurate is this rifle out of the box? How easy is it to pump to 60 pumps?

                • Tyler from USA:

                  No, the scope does not arrive sighted in. 20/$20 service would be the best option to get it sighted in. If you keep the pressure in the optimum range, the two or three I've shot have been very accurate out to 50 yards. Definitely squirrels head accurate at that distance. Pumping isn't too tough in my opinion, though 60 continuous strokes will take a toll. Best to fill it up and then maintain a consistent pressure range by pumping a few times every shot or two.

              • Paul from USA asked:

                Is the trigger plastic or metal

                • Tyler from USA:

                  Metal

              • Paul from USA asked:

                Did anyone notice that on the second to last pic its a .25 6.35mm. Thats the one I want.

                • Tyler from USA:

                  .25 will be available for pre-order in due time. No firm date yet

              • Matt from USA asked:

                Says "side lever" - but since pic is not very clear, I assume it actually folds "down" - not to the side? Does the velocity / power of each shot fall off as the pressure in the tank declines? IE first shot is the most powerful, then all subsequent shots fall off from there. OR is it only as the tank gets quite low that you notice a difference?

                • Tyler from USA:

                  The side lever refers to the cocking bolt. The pump itself is located on the underside of the gun. No, if you were to fill the rifle to 3600 psi, it will preform the same way any unregulated PCP does, the velocity will come up until you hit the sweet spot (usually between 2000-2700 psi in .177 and .22) and then decline once you are beyond it. The idea is to use the pump to keep your pressure constantly in the sweet spot.

              • Robert from USA asked:

                Any idea on how much this weighs in .22?

                • Tyler from USA:

                  The rifle weighs 8 lbs, the caliber doesn't change that

              • Robert from USA asked:

                What's the weight of the .22 version?

                • Tyler from USA:

                  The gun weighs 8 lbs

              • brian from USA asked:

                can this gun use Benjamin air gun mags?

                • Tyler from USA:

                  Yes, Marauder rifle magazines will work in this rifle

              • Barry from USA asked:

                Is the end of the shroud threaded so you can add a moderator?

                • Tyler from USA:

                  Yes, though the rifle is pretty quiet as is

              • Mildcat from USA asked:

                Will the Seneca Aspen be offered in .25 caliber?

                • Roger from USA:

                  Look at the front page of the manual. 3 calibers are listed, with an 8 shot magazine in .25.

                • Tyler from USA:

                  I have heard whispers of that possibility, but nothing firm yet

              • Harry from USA asked:

                Will Pyramyd repair a nova freedom if need. If you paid for it

                • Robert from USA:

                  Send the freedom back to ATI and they'll exchange it if still under warranty

                • RICK from USA:

                  do it yo self ,very easy to work on !!!

                • Tyler from USA:

                  You would have to call the tech department and ask at PA and ask.

              • George from USA asked:

                Does the gun include any kind of dessicant to absorb moisture when pumping? If so, what maintenance does that require?

                • Tyler from USA:

                  There is not an internal desiccant filter

              • timothy jordan from USA asked:

                What size are the scope rings? High?

                • Tyler from USA:

                  Look more like medium height to me

              • David from USA asked:

                Who makes the scope that comes with the Seneca aspen?

                • Tyler from USA:

                  It comes with the gun from China. It's not a name brand like Leapers or Hawke

              • Zeke from USA asked:

                Hello any chance for this rifle to be ship to Canada? If yes, what are the steps? thank you.

                • Tyler from USA:

                  Not that I can see.

              • TEAMWOLF_777 from USA asked:

                Where is this rifle made in

                • Tyler from USA:

                  China

              • Ed from USA asked:

                Tyler, When HAM tested it they didn't really address the pump. What kind of spread do you get when you shoot, pump twice, shoot, pump twice...or something like that?

                • Robert from USA:

                  I shoot one time then pump 5 to 6 times then shoot again. You are the regulator and so the velocity stays very consistent and it heats the pump up less for less wear and tear on the pump. I got a 14 fps spread on a 10 shot string using this method. By the way, I try to keep the pressure right between 3k down to around 2600 psi. It seems to be the sweet spot.

                • Tyler from USA:

                  Because you'd be basically self regulating the pressure that way, it should be very consistent. Probably 10-15 fps or less. The gun over the course of a fill, when in the optimum pressure range will produce 10-15 fps spreads on high power without pumping after each shot, so keeping the pressure consistent should maintain at least that spread or better it.

              • Martin from USA asked:

                Wait. Isnt this the Nova Freedom?

                • Tyler from USA:

                  Same gun, just with a scope instead of open sights.

              • Mario from USA asked:

                Can you also fill air with a tank too?

              • James from USA asked:

                This is very appealing product. Approximately how many pumps to fill after one 10 shot mag at high pressure?

                • Tyler from USA:

                  Depends on your power setting, but typically it's 3-5 pumps per shot on high power, 2-3 on low power. So between 30-50 pumps to get it back to the starting pressure after one mag. I find it easier to take a few shots 2-3 and then pump 10-15 times. Breaks it up and makes it a lot less labor intensive, or at least that's how it feels to me

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