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Can I use a hand pump to fill Seneca wing shot ll? And what kind a hand pump and quick conectors should I use?
Thank! Very helpful
Yes. The hand pumps that have a female foster on the hose end will fit. (most have it)
Hi,is the wingshot legal to hunt on a California state hunting refuges?
Here are the species legal to hunt with airguns in CA on public lands: airgun hunting laws for CA
Will it kill a squirrel
for some reason I seem to only have one setting when pulling my bolt backwards, isn't it supposed to have a half, and a full power
Fixed/adj. power: Fixed
does the wing shot have half power and full power selections
The wingshot has fixed power.
Will the original Wingshot still shoot bolts?
Yes, still need to remove the choke to do so
Is there any word if there will be a rifled barrel for the wing shot in the near future?
Have not heard anything like that, so not likely.
Does the wing shot come with the sliding bolt on the left instead of right for left handed shooters?
No, only on the right hand side
I have a hand pump is this shotgun hard to pump up. I have purchased some that I could not pump
Any big bore is going to be hard to pump, but it is doable. You'll have to cock the bolt before attempting to fill.
Is this gun good for home defense or what gun would be the best
NO. No airgun is going to be well suited to home defense in comparison to a firearm.
I use a hand pump, so prefer operating at lower pressures. Can the gun be successfully operated at 2000 psi? What velocities, and how many shots?
It will shoot at 2000 psi, but you're already on the backside of the velocity curve at that point and the velocities will continue to drop from there. Wouldn't recommend running this from a 2000 psi. 2500 psi would net you two viable shots.
Does this model come with the 11mm weaver rail?
It does not. You can purchase an 11mm dovetail that can be added:PY-A-5920
I have a wing b shot 2. The 50 cal air venturi round slugs seem awful big for the barrel. Won't even fit past the breech. Do I fire anyway and assume the air forces the slug down the barrel safely?
Yes, they will fire without issue. Just make sure to remove the choke first!
Will this gun take out a coyote if need be? And at what range with a slug?
Yes, more than enough power to do so with a slug. Accuracy is going to be the issue when using a slug in this gun, I would say about 25 yards is going to be your max distance with a slug for acceptable hunting accuracy.
Could i hunt turkey with this
No, this gun does not have enough power to ethically hunt turkey. As it says in the description, dove or quail sized birds.
That depends on your state regulations, you'd want to check with your DNR first
How loud is this shotgun compared to a 410?
Way quieter than a 410 .
Can I shoot 00 Buckshot in my Wing Shot? I made up some shell's with 2, 00buckshot filled with 8 1/2 . And shells with 1, 00buckshot #4 and 8 1/2. I've also make shells with #4 and 8 1/2. Should they be fine to shoot? Thanks for your time.
You can certainly try them out. Not sure how they will do in terms of accuracy though.
Will this humanely kill a pheasant?
Out to about 20 yards, yes. I'd recommend #6 shot.
As the Wing Shot has a screw off choke, is there a rifled choke available to in effect make it a "smooth twist"?
Not at this point in time
I already have a wing shot , is the rib ed barrel for sale separate ?
It is not
Has anyone shot the air bolts from the wing shot? And if so what kind of accuracy are they getting?
2" at 40-50 yards. Gets less accurate than Dragon Claw after that, but it is more powerful (less friction due to bore being smooth).
I just purchased the Wing Shot and plan to use mostly as a shotgun but know I will like to try out pellets or round ball. Can anyone recommend a good pellet/slug for the best accurate and range. THANKS
The round balls and conical bullets group about 3 inches at 30 yards. Im not sure about the accuracy at 50 yards but i would assume the group would open up around another inch or so. This kind of accuracy is pretty respectable considering the kill zone on most medium game is around 6 inches and the barrel is a smoothbore. The air bolts also group well at range
Is there any way of acquiring a rifled choke for this shotgun? Also what kind of accurate range are y'all getting with bullets or round balls? And does it have 11mm rails?
Here is the rail: Air Venturi 11mm Scope Rail,.... No rifled choke yet, as far as I can see
I am wanting to buy this gun. What do I need to fill the air tank?
Click on the PCP Hookup tab to see your options.
this shotgun is blowing back into my eye every shot. is there an o-ring that goes on the channel at the back of the breech? seems like the breech cover use to lock when twisting it.
Yes, there is an o-ring that is supposed to be present at the back of the breech. I'd recommend talking to Pyramyd's tech department. 888-262-4867
I'm new at airgunning I shoot cartridge black powder and air. I've never owned a pcp yet but I want this gun. What do I need to fill it with?
You will need a source for high pressure air. Either a hand pump or tank of some sort. There are various option for each. A tank is easiest, but you will need somewhere locally that can fill it. Ideally you'd get a carbon fiber tank that can be filled to 4500 psi. This is lighter than a traditional SCUBA tank and will give you more full fills of the gun. Check around at local scuba shops, fire departments or welding supply shops to see if they can fill a carbon fiber tank to 4500 psi.
How good is this for waterfowl hunting?
single shot, low velocity, and small weight make this shotgun a poor choice for waterfowl. would produce lots of cripples.
Is there any reason I can't, or shouldn't, use B-Bs or #4 shot in this gun? I want to discourage the iguana invasion and fear #6 might be too light.
You can use #4
Is the barrel compatible with non lead or lead alternative shot
.50 cal slugs will work.
I know shotguns well but I know very little about this air gun. The short answer imo would be Bismuth would be fine, and imo the only realistic alternative. Long answer: Other materials have risks, like will the plastic cases stay intact until the choke breaks 'em, or will they break on launch? Steel is also much lighter so you'd be stuck with a very light load in those shells. You could improvise your own longer shells but due to the breech length you'd probably need to load them from the muzzle. A 36GA wad would likely work for home made ammo, but good luck finding any, especially longer steel versions. Making wads from cardboard and shot wrap would no doubt be in the way too much hassle category.
I am considering using an air gun as my bug out weapon accompanied by a 55lb recurve bow. The AirForce offerings are a little short in the FPE area, due,IMHO to a 43.2 grain limit projectile, At any rate, can this air gun be filled with a hand pump? I have read reviews about the 9mm version of the SY and the answer was a resounding "no". Will a good hill tank fill this one up? What about some other brand pumps?
I can't see why anyone would say it cannot be hand filled. It would not be fun considering the pump to shot count ratio, but that's your decision. I'd also take into consideration the noise, since AirForce offers suppressor models. If noise is not an issue then I'd much rather have a 22LR. Pumps also have seal issues, so check into which lasts and get spare seals. I remember the Hill being the best per people who have tired others, but the cost + rebuild kits really adds up. Google some airgun forums about pcp pumps, tons of info....
Yes it can be filled was a hand pump. The only problem comes when filling guns over 3000 psi. (It becomes vary hard to do.)
an adjustable choke like the cutts compensator used on the old Ithaca pump mod 37 should work well here. Need a gunsmith or a good machinist for that.
I'm certain it would be much easier and cheaper to just have a variety of chokes made. Plus you have to factor in the plastic shells, which no doubt require xx much choke to break and do so well enough to give a good pattern. A Modified for example may break it in far fewer pieces and ruin the pattern. At some point the shell would be like a Glaser safety bullet. You'll never know until you try, but sounds like an expensive experiment. Post if you do it...
What is the size of the fill port? Is it a Foster?
Yes, it's a quick disconnect.
I understand this is no powder burner, but I do own a side by side that's just above power rateing with full & full full fixed chokes. wing shot should do good on small game birds, I don't see mallards in there doves seem about right.Am I correct on this? anything bigger than a dove is a no go? but I may be wrong please correct me?
Correct. Within it's limitations the Wingshot will take down dove and quail. There isn't enough shot to reliably kill animals bigger than that.
would this air shotgun be effective for hunting drakes,mallards,rabbit,quail? I own a side by side hammergun wich shoots light loads full and full-full chokes, and reading the spec's on this air shotgun it's just about the same.
Rabbits, quail and dove would be perfect for this gun, within reasonable ranges of 15-20 yards. I cannot recommend shooting any bigger animals than those however.
What choke does it come in
According to posted data on the PA description page, The choke reduces the inner barrel diameter from .494" to .486".
How many shots per charge
in the field, 3 shots before time to recharge
Specs say 5shots.
is this gun modeled after the dragon claw and does it have a interchangeable barrel that is rifled that can be purchased separately?
Yes, it's based on dragon claw but no barrels are available.
Will it kill crows, badgers, possums, skunks and squirrels? And maybe even a good size Buck White Tail in the front yard?
Using as a shotgun you can kill crows and squirrels. Shooting the slugs would work on larger game, just need to keep in mind low accuracy this being smooth bore
Can I refuel it with a 3000 psi scuba tank?
How loud is it? I live in a country subdivision but still need to keep the noise to a minimum. The neighbors don't like it when I pull off a round from my 45/70!
It's a big bore, so it's going to be fairly loud. Definitely not backyard friendly.
What is the reservoir fill size? Marauder is 215cc...
244 cc, since this single tank. Dual tanks are 500cc.
500cc. Told same size as other Sam Yang PCP's
I wish they made one that Canadians could buy! Wink wink nudge nudge
Move to the southern states of the US and buy one!
What is the expected accuracy when scoped, firing .50 cal balls at 50 and 100 yards with this smoothbore?
I own both the SY Dragon Claw and the SY Wing Shot. I wanted very much that the Wing Shot would perform well with either shot or slug. It's a poor choice for either use, but as a SHOT shooter, it works best. As a SLUG shooter it is at its worst.The bore of my SY Wing Shot is actually narrower at the point where a slug leaves the chamber than at the unchoked muzzle! That means that any weight, or shape, of slug you might choose will not fit snugly as it propels down the smoothbore of the barrel and approaches flight from the muzzle. Since the barrel is manufactured as a smoothbore, the whole scenerio makes for extremely poor accuracy and performance when slugs are used. This gun is a SHOTgun first and foremost, and shooting slugs except in times of emergency purpose, should be discouraged - NOT encouraged! Shooting slugs should be done through a SY Dragon Claw, NOT a Wing Shot! Just as the Dragon Claw is a SLUG shooter, and not a SHOT shooter, the Wing Shot is a SHOT shooter, not a SLUG shooter! My suggestion - buy both the Dragon Claw AND the Wing Shot. If you think about it, the premise of one gun being appropriate for every purpose, has been tried many times in the past, and I can't think of one time when the effort ever succeeded!
At 40 yards I was able to achieve 3" groups with slugs. Round ball was completely erratic and not accurate at all. I'm very doubtful that you would achieve anything close to a group at 100 yards with a smoothbore.
Does this have the same cocking handle arrangement that the 909 and Recluse have ? And how would you compare the noise to a .410 ?
If you watch the videos on this shotgun it shows it has the same cocking handle arrangement you refer to. Maybe as lound as a airforce talon or so (unsilenced).
Does it have the same cocking handle arrangement as the 909 and Recluse ? And how would you compare the noise level to a .410?
The cocking handle is the same. It's about as loud a .410 shotgun without as much crack.
Howdy: First, as far as the gauge goes, 50 cal is approximately 37 gauge, assuming pure lead is about 6.5729 oz/cubic inch. 28 gauge wads will not fit - they don't even fit in my 0.510" Farco. Question: Five "good" shots are claimed - has anyone crono'd the five shots to see how much the velocity really drops? Thanks - Steve from PA.
How many shots do you get in the shotgun & howmany in the slug ?
same. 5 powerful shots on full power.
It's listed as a level 5 for loudness, how loud is it compared to my Marauders which I consider almost silent.
There are no large caliber air rifles that are quiet or "backyard friendly". Not one. They probably shouldn't be fired anywhere where noise would be an issue either. The .50 cal rifles have many times more power than a Marauder..
What shotgun gauge would this be equal to
Fifty caliber is closest to 28 gauge in standard nomenclature.
It would be slightly larger than a 410 gauge. The Judge by Taurus in the 45 Colt , will shoot 410 gauge shells.
The Wing Shot is close to a 28 gauge (.550 cal) shotgun at a .50 cal bore measurement, but that is in bore size only. In FPE, patterning, follow up shots, range, etc., there will be differences between air and standard shotguns.
Wouldn't this actually be the third production air shotgun? Behind Gamo's offering that slip's my mind at the moment and the Crossman Model 1100 from the 1960's? I know there are other air shotguns that were at best "semi custom" products.
Extreme Big Bore sells a PCP shotgun pistol that is far more powerful and accurate.
This is the first production PCP Shotgun. The Gamo is a springer and the Crosman was a co2. That said, this one is the first production air shotgun viable for actual hunting at more than a few yards out.
How much was the total weight of shot that was used for the rated FPS? Also, the same question for the .50 caliber bullet?
oops. you are right. misread the report here: 185 grain round nose producing 800 FPS. 185 grain slugs at 800 fps, so 260 fpe
and 336 grain slugs going at almost 800 fps That would be over 470 fpe. I don't think so.
shells filled with 112 grains worth of lead going over 1100 fps, and 336 grain slugs going at almost 800 fps
Is this manufactured in Korea?
yes, South Korea
What pattern range does the choke produce? Will they be coming out with a rifled choke similar to a rem choke?
the pattern is fairly tight with the stock choke. similar to improved cylinder. the low velocity limits the range along with the small amount of shot. reminds me of 410 competition in sporting clays - got to be accurate. #9, #8, #7 1/2 max shot size.
Will this be coming out with a dual reservoir
Not as of now as the gun was designed with a single tank so it was more swingable as a normal shotgun
Is the barrel rifled? How is accuracy when used as a rifle? What is the effective range when used as a shotgun with 71/2 shot?
It's a smooth bore barrel. Here is a review for it, more is coming, probably: https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2015/09/air-venturi-wing-shot-review/
How accurate for hunting with smooth-bore barrel and lead pellets? Is loaded steel shot available for us poor Calif. hunters?
You can shoot airguns for hunting purposes with lead pellets in California. New law applies to firearm hunters only.
What is the max psi on this gun? What connections does it use?
3,000 PSI. Quick Male disconnect.
In the video demo with Jim Chapman, both guys have shotguns with Monte Carlo stocks and cheekpiece. Is this stock an option for these guns? Dave Mason
No, they are shooting a prototype gun, that did not have the straight stock.
Is there a steel shot or steel shot alternative available for hunting waterfowl with this gun
empty shells are available, so you just need to fill them yourself...