Hard air magazine claimed they were going to be shipping in March what gives again.
I have the Air Venturi Nomad 1 air compressor. Is the Nomad up to the task of filling this rifle to 4,500 psi?
Is this going to be able to shoot arrows
Unsure yet but the bolts might work.
Is this ever going to be released?
Will you be able to get spare tanks for this item?
I would assume so. We can only hope once it released.
Is there any chance they will release this in other calibers? In a full range, I would buy one in .177 and one in 9mm for sure.
I would check with umarex but we could possibly find out after they release.
can helium be used with the hammer without causing damage or violating warranty?
You'd have to ask Umarex, but I would think there's a good chance it will void the warranty.
Any idea when the gun will be relased for sale
Still don't have a solid ETA
Hi, looking at scoping with a hawk sport 6x24x50 what sort of mount should I use? Quick detach or solid mount? Looks like it might fit better in a rug without the scope attached. Any thoughts?
A two piece mount set up would be fine. Since it's picatinny, the choice of QD is really up to you. Plenty of options. I would definitely recommend high rings since your scope has a 50mm objective
David frome Usa When is it coming out?
Still no firm ETA
When will they release the hammer on the market for sale?
That's a really good question...I haven't heard anything in a few months.
Are extra magazines available in case I loose on in the field?
I would think they will be when the rifle actually makes it to market
Will the Umarex Hammer work on helium?
Not sure, probably best to ask Umarex
Is the bottle replaceable for a quick air refill? The first design was said to have that option. If so when can we order more bottles and what is the price point.
We likely will not know for sure until the guns actually start making it out there
Does it have an open sights options available. I don't think I will buy it if it doesn't.
I would like open sights also
At this point, have not seen any proposed open sight options
I need a scope , hand pump and a case. Along with ammo
Hand pumping to 4500 psi is going to be quite a challenge. I would recommend the Hill pump: Air Venturi MK4 Kit by.... Scope is a bit of personal preference and dependent on budget, so how much would you be looking to spend on a scope?
What are the delivery date ?
Another place is claiming 1/6/2019 now.
Still not a firm date
Can I pre order the hammer? If so how?
Give PA's customer service/sales dept. a call, they should be able to help
Can I run helium in this rifle and will this magazine accept spitzer rounds?
You'd have to ask Umarex, haven't seen one of these bad boys yet
Should swedged bullets be lubricated
It can't hurt to lube even non-swaged pellets.
Not going to make the 2018 hunting season are we?
Looks like they have just dropped the ETA date and say we will email you when we get it.
How come the release date keep changing
My guess would be that with field testing of the prototype they are finding issues that need to be addressed. So those corrections are holding up the release and they are probably trying to make sure they have enough built to cover demand before release.
In stock date keeps changing and I'm curious if that is going by if you order now or is that the date for everone?
Ya I'm affraid to say I'm one them too and was in januarary when I ordered. I'm not up set its just money tided up in something that doesnt have a date now that is a concern.
That is the current date from the factory. So it effects everyone. Some have been waiting several months with an order already placed.
How come you don't sell your apr and/or Havoc ammo in you website?. I've looked and can't find any.
I believe the Havox pellet is not going to be coming out. The ARX ammo should be available when the Hammer actually makes it to dealers.
The price was 699 a month ago now its 799 thats a big increase. Whats up with that
The price has always been $799.00 since information was released, never was it $699.00. Woodys World.
Its been 799$
I think you are mistaken. It's been $799 since they posted it.
How many times could you refill the Hammer with a 4500 PSI carbon fiber tank
They claim 3 regulated shots per fill. So I would assume that is with the tank at 4500. I would plan on two shots and refill with a tank after that until you fall off the reg. The bigger the 4500 source the better.
Tyler, forgive me if I am mistaken or misunderstanding the question. But if you have a supply tank filled to 4500 psi at several times the volume of the guns tank then you should be able to get several fills at 4500 psi since the supply tank has a much larger volume. At least this is how it works with my Flashpup QE and the 3500 psi scuba cylinder I feel it from. That cylinder has enough volume that I can get 6 full pressure fills from it before I start seeing a drop in the max fill.
In theory, you're only going to get one full fill to 4500 psi. But you will get plenty of usable fills. Since the gun is regulated at 3000 psi, anything above 3k will give you consistent velocities. It's just a matter of how many shots you will get before it drops below 3k.
In a video I saw it mentioned that the hammer has a stock ar pistol grip do you guys know if it will be interchangeable?
Yes, it should be
What is a "chamber magazine"? It seems to mean an internal/built in one but the description says 2 are included so I'm a bit confused. And does "2 rounds" mean 2+1? Also, I remember this being touted to have a 3 shot mag when it was announced. Will you be able to buy higher cap mags? Will there be a way to adjust the pressure for the "regulated shots"?
The magazines hold 2 rounds each, that is different then what was originally announced. At this time, it doesn't sound like there will be other capacity options available. Chamber magazine is what the call it because the rounds are fired from the magazine, not pushed into the bore with a probe like most PCP rifles. At least that is the way it was at SHOT show, hard to say how that may have changed now without seeing one.
Is the barrell threaded. Will it accept a moderator?
I would also be interested in this b/c whatever suppression it has now is way too small to work, at least by my standards. For me it's gotta be basically silent, like an Mrod is considered very quiet but still too loud for me. So for those of us who want very quiet, or simply quieter, we need to know details so we can decide if this gun can be modded. I don't think this gun will ever meet my needs, but no doubt the quieter it is the more customers it will have. Maybe kyros wants stealth to poach black rhinos ;)
I don't feel sound will be an issue. The videos showing it being fired make it sound mild. Even then this not a backyard or even within city gun. This thing is unlike any airgun out there. It has the same muzzle energy as a 357 magnum. Your issue is not going to be it's noise level but instead safely stopping the rounds from it. If you miss your target with a poor backstop, this is not only going to go through a fence but through a wall as well and into your neighbors home. I would only ever shoot this if I knew there was no one or no property that could be damaged within 500yrds in every direction. In fact once I receive and test mine I may extend that 1000yrds.
Since the barrel is shrouded already, I would think it's not likely to be threaded. That said, the end of the shroud may be threaded. But since the gun isn't out yet, nothing is certain.
I am assuming since this is a regulated gun that regardless of the weight of the round you use, you will only get the stated 3 full power shots?
Yes and no. Some of that depends on the valving. In theory, a lighter slug will not create the back pressure that a heavier slug would, which will not keep the valve open as long, so you may be able to get an extra shot or two there. But since no one has really had a hammer to test this with yet, it remains to be seen
I dont need background check for this?
There are a few states that may require a background check, but most do not
From a sound suppression standpoint is it only shrouded or also baffled?
My understanding, baffled
Will extra air bottles be available to use for back up?
We have not heard yet, but I don't think so.
It says the tank holds 4500psi and is regulated to 3000psi. Does anyone know if the regulator will be able to be adjusted up to a higher pressure?
Probably not externally adjustable, but like everything else, if you know what you're doing, anything can be adjusted....likely at the risk of voiding your warranty
The Hammer's description says it includes a rear sling stud, but I don't see anything that looks like a stud protruding from the lower half of the stock where you'd expect to find one. Where exactly is this sling stud supposed to be, and is it actually a stud for a standard swivel or a female mount for a push-button QD swivel? Thanks!
According to Umarex customer service, who did get back to me, the Hammer will be released with a hole in the rear lower half of the stock to accommodate a stud for a standard sling swivel.
You mention using "slugs in the .503/.504" ... who sells slugs in that diameter (I've only seen .498 and below)? thanks
Kyle Bruso, lead engineer at Umarex for development of the Hammer, said at Shot Show 2018 that the Hammer can handle just about any ammo made for .50 caliber black powder rifles, which would include bullets in .357, .40, .45 and .458 SOCOM calibers in weights from 185 to 550 grains while loaded in .50 caliber plastic sabots. Sabots can be purchased from most black powder shooting suppliers. Using sabots would also mean being able to shoot many types of commercially produced slugs without the need to lubricate or powdercoat and size your bullets, though you would still have the option to cast your own bullets from molds you might already own to save some money. The shape of plastic sabots at the back is cupped to efficiently trap expanding gasses, or a blast of air, as in this case. Shorter sabots are available to allow shooting handgun sized bullets from a rifle. As the Hammer produces less energy than the typical black powder rifle, cheaper sabots can be used, costing around six dollars for a bag of fifty. They weigh next to nothing, open up and blow off after the bullet exits the muzzle, and can actually increase the accuracy, speed and power of your chosen projectile. They also leave your barrel clean, which leads to saving time spent on maintenance and money spent on solvents.
The bullets used to demo the Hammer at Shot Show 2018 were reportedly 330 grains lead which were most likely cast from a 340 grain Lyman .515" single-cavity flat-nose bullet mold, model #515139, and sized to .510" as written in black marker on the box that contained them on the Umarex table at the Shot Show. I have the same mold and plan to powdercoat the bullets I make to reduce friction and barrel leading, then use my Lee .510" sizer to get them to spec. I also plan to use a double-cavity Lee .515" mold which produces similar bullets in 450 grains, and another that produces .517" REAL bullets in 250 grains. Another option would be to shoot the pure lead .50 caliber PowerBelt black powder bullets, available as either 295 or 348 grain hollowpoints, costing about $14 for twenty bullets.
I've been told that Umarex will be offering various options, but I've seen a few, buffalo arms bullets and lyman are two.
Is it ready to shoot out of the box... Is the tank included with the rifle... How do you fill the air tank ???
You just need a way to fill it and ammo. I would recommend getting a tank to fill this gun, a 4500 psi carbon fiber bottle is what you would want. Like this: Air Venturi Carbon Fiber Charging...
Any chance Umarex could put this power plant on a conventional wood stock with metal sites? I like the power for hunting but i like the older style stocks,
No. Why cant you take it like it is. If they did it will not make you a better shot.
when will this item be in stock
They're currently saying end of July/early August
What would you recommend for mounting a sling and bipod? And which bipod do you recommend?
Since it has M-lok slots, I'll most likely use the four slots on the sides of the forestock to mount a Leapers UTG Recon Flex M-LOK Bipod TL-BPDM02 directly to the rifle where they can be folded almost completely out of the way when not in use while keeping weight down. On the underside of the forestock are three more M-lok slots; in the front two I'll be installing a Magpul M-lok aluminum 7-slot Picatinny rail and adding a rail-mounted swivel stud, probably the one manufactured by Midwest Industries. That will also give me the option to use the Picatinny rail for other accessories.
What optics are recommended fur the hammer...
It should/would be personal preference. Woodys World.
If you intend on hunting with it (of course), using less than perfect shooting form is a possibility, so something with about 5" of eye relief might be a good idea. Some of those who have shot the Hammer report great potential for getting scoped in the eye.
Optics are a personal preference. For me, I would go for something lighter weight with enough magnification to reach out comfortably. I would go with this: Hawke Optics 3-12x44 AO Vantage...
Will Pyramyd Air sell the new ARX ammo for the hammer? If so when will it be avilable?
You can always contact or get it thru/from Umarex. Woodys World.
I would assume so. There was no date given at SHOT with regards to availability that I heard.
I just placed my order for the Umarex Hammer and it originally showed an availability date of 3-2-18 and in the last couple of days it has jumped to 3-4-18 is this accurate ? This has happened to me before when the sig Saur C02 first came out and it went on for 6 months and I eventually cancelled my order.
From Umarex at SHOT, their target release date is mid-summer/early fall. They want it out before hunting season.
What is the best diameter ammo for the hammer? .495,.498,?
The hammer is a true .50, so I believe the groove diameter is around .510, which means you'll want slugs in the .503/.504 range. You may want to call Umarex and double check with them to be sure, but that is what I can recall.
This went from Jan to July now Aug. I did your payment plane but now I'm questioning that. Do you know when it's gonna be available
The Hammer was just re-announced at SHOT show at the end of January. Umarex said they want to get it out before hunting season. The date on pyramyd is updated as they get more info from Umarex. I wouldn't expect anything until mid summer.
Can this shoot the Air-Bolt, if so.....cool.
The description says it uses a carbon fiber air chamber. Being carbon fiber, doesn't that mean it is considered unsafe after a few years?
Only if it's over a certain size. I don't believe this one qualifies.
It is silenced, probably with baffles is my guess. Does this mean we can still use the Airbolt in it? Has it been checked whether the fletchings will destabilize the bolt or tear off?
I've seen the airbolt shot in it, but I cannot speak to what happens to the bolt, largely because there is not a target that I've seen capable of stopping it.
Omg! So it's not like Bigfoot? It finally really exists? It doesn't seem to live up to what was originally promised.
How so? Other than the fact that the original prototypes were pump action and 3 shot mags, the important features like power level and the fact that it is still a repeater are definite pluses.
Will be able to hunt hogs with this?
That depends on where you are located and what the law allows.
Any plans to offer this gun in a smaller and more generally practical caliber like 9mm? Any calculations of how the barrel length, cal. and effective impulse pressure match up? Barrel seems unnecessarily long.
You need a longer barrel when shooting .50 caliber ammo, smaller caliber ammo would not need a barrel that long. They will take care of that when it happens. Woodys World.
At this point, let's wait and see what happens with the .50 before we start worrying about other calibers.
This gun will accommodate 4 calibers the barel needs to be certain lengths to achieve the velocities advertised. Shortening will decrease the velocities.
What is the Max effective range?
The question of accuracy is going to be determined by the abtility of the shooter. Gun to gun variation will not be that measurable, if any. It will mostly be the human skill factor. Accuracy is not a given, nor is it an accident. Woodys World.
The engineer who designed it said with confidence at Shot Show 2018 that the effective range for deer is 150 yards using a 330 grain, lead flat-nosed bullet. Heavier projectiles for larger game, probably 100 yards. Depending on skill and accuracy of your setup, 200 yards for smaller game. Those would be the ballpark figures I took away from the conversation I heard.
With that kind of energy, it's going to be a question of accuracy that determines effective range. And that is going to vary from gun to gun and shooter to shooter.
Yeah, what is the twist rate of the barrel?
On a GTA forum, I saw the following, "The barrel is similar to a .50BMG barrel with a 1:15 twist, .510 grooves and .504 bore."
I wish they lowered the mussle energy a little lower to get more shots per fill
Use a lighter projectile, it should yield an extra shot or two and will produce less than the 700 fpe max
What is the twist rate on the barrel?
I read an article stating 1:24.
On a GTA forum, I saw the following, "The barrel is similar to a .50BMG barrel with a 1:15 twist, .510 grooves and .504 bore."