Date: 17/8/2018 5:8
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Customers Q&A on Umarex Legends Cowboy Lever Action CO2 BB Air Rifle

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  • Douglas from USA asked:

    I just noticed that the new available date is in November! Pushed out yet again from 3/31 to 6/7 to 8/6. I pre-ordered this gun in March so I am a bit disappointed at yet another delay. Hopefully this new delay is to perfect any problems.

    • William from USA asked:

      Perhaps someone can tell me why some of you are placing emphasis on rifling the barrel, and bringing out a pellet version of this gun? Don't you realize that there are already hundreds of pellet guns for sale that deal with accuracy, power, and distance shooting, and that this is a short range, CO2, realistic style, plinker gun that is made for fun, backyard, 10 meter, tin can shooting and not much more? Enjoy it, and stop trying to make it more than it is!

      • Jeffrey from USA:

        I support your question Highly, William. I am interested in High Quality, bb shooting, lower powered, rapid firing fun plinking guns. There less noisy for indoor and small backyard use, Cost less when shooting rapidly alot, no lead dust hazard, and bbs generaly feed much better through well designed guns than lead pellets do. Theres NO reason a lower powered, bb plinking gun "Has" to be made like a cheap toy, like many are for the kids. Steel bbs will Not wear the bore of a barrel, if it is a smooth bore, not rifled. High quality, yet still very economical steel bbs (compared to pellets) are capable of surprising accuracy in the higher quality guns, still ment for closer range targeting and plinking. Not talking hunting. Not every one wants power,power,power, all the time.

      • Christopher from USA:

        Hi, William. Pellets are softer than BBs, and won't wear out the barrel as quickly. The added accuracy and speed would be bonus points. Considering that there's a revolver that operates similarly to the Umarex Peacemaker, and uses cartridges that hold lead pellets, I don't think it's an unreasonable request.

      • Tyler from USA:

        Amen!

    • michael from USA asked:

      My feelings exactly. If this rifle does not deliver better velocity than 410 fps it is dead on arrival.

      • Jeffrey from USA:

        My dear Michael from Macho USA, If the Quality is there, feeding, smooth action, decent bb accuracy, durability, holds gas, etc. I Welcome its arrival. For me, the 410fps is just about right! More gas economy and consistent velocity in shooting! Keep it a good Quality "BB", shorter range plinking rifle!

      • Tyler from USA:

        If the product works well and shoots well, I disagree. This is a fun gun, made to be a plinker...and maybe a training tool for cowboy action shooters, the velocity doesn't really matter if it's accurate and functions as it should.

    • Michael from USA asked:

      I am confused, with a barrel length of 19.25" how can the muzzle velocity be only 410 fps? Also my Umarex 1894 Wells Fargo lever action with a similar barrel length but, has a muzzle velocity of over 650 fps and still is a joy to shoot! What gives Pyramyd Air?

      • Tyler from USA:

        Didn't say that at all. I do however, look at most of these things with skepticism until I can actually test the real thing myself.

      • Michael from USA:

        Point taken, not a PA 'mistake' but you admit the ballistics math does not appear to work out. Now all we can do is wait till the Fall and the Umarex gun to arrive.

      • Tyler from USA:

        What gives PA? More like What gives Umarex.....the specs are published by them, PA is just posting what they are given. Until there are samples or production models to test, we won't know if those are real world figures or not.

    • Dylan from USA asked:

      why isn't it just called a Winchester model 94 and not "legends cowboy rifle"

      • Tyler from USA:

        Probably because Umarex does not have the license for Winchester airguns

    • Keith from USA asked:

      I know it's not advertised to do so, but, do you think that the pellet shells could be used in this as you can the Peacemaker BB versions? Just curious.....

      • Tyler from USA:

        Most likely, won't know for sure until they're available

    • Larry from USA asked:

      What is the hpld up on making these available?

      • Tyler from USA:

        You'd have to ask Umarex that one

    • michael from USA asked:

      how is it with-an almost 20 inch barrel , this rifle gets the same velocity as a 5 1/2 barrel revolver.

      • Michael from USA:

        I strongly agree with the above above observations. Particularly styling this rifle with the Model 73 which was at the historical height of the American cowboy era! Plus an airgun collector wants a 400fps gun they will purchase a SAA Colt, please correct the power to match purchasing a long air arm! Keep up the excellent comments and my the industry be reading them.

      • michael from USA:

        Well ,I did. They stated that the barrel is full length. They stated, but were not certain that the valve was tuned for the lower velocity. Since the rifle is targeted for the US market , it should have been tuned to the advertised 530 plus fps. They also stated there are no plans at this time for a rifled barrel version. Not well thought out . The rifle should have been made on the Winchester 73 or92 platform .That way it would have been unique to the US market, and not stepped on the toes of the Walther pellet version.

      • Tyler from USA:

        Good question, I'd recommend reaching out to Umarex and asking.

    • George from Canada asked:

      Why does Pyramyd Air spec this gun at 535 fps when Umarex USA states it is 410 fps? https://www.umarexusa.com/products/legends-cowboy-rifle

      • Tyler from USA:

        It has been updated.

    • Douglas from USA asked:

      Are both the forestock and the stock made of wood?

      • Douglas from USA:

        Thanks Tyler. The original specs said it was a wood stock. I thought it was too good a price for wood.

      • Tyler from USA:

        They are synthetic with a very realistic wood finished. Actually, having handled one, I really thought it was wood until an Umarex rep told me it was synthetic

    • Bruce from USA asked:

      Will this rifle use the same "BB Cartridges" as the Colt Single Action Army?

      • Tyler from USA:

        Yes

    • Robert A. from USA asked:

      If I remember correctly, BB's are .172 caliber, not .177. Correct?

      • Tyler from USA:

        Closer to .175 typically, but definitely smaller than .177

    • Douglas from USA asked:

      I've been waiting for this one. I don't see it on the Umarex site though. Is it really coming on March 30?

      • Daniel from USA:

        If its anything like the Gauntlet well be lucky to have it by Christmas

      • Tyler from USA:

        Hoping it will be out by the summer.

    • JimA2 from USA asked:

      Will there be extra cartridges available to be purchased in lots of 10?

      • Tyler from USA:

        Not sure on the quantities but they are already available in sets of 6.

    • JimA2 from USA asked:

      Can the lever be cocked with one hand inside of the lever instead of grabbing the bottom of the lever like shown in the video?

      • Tyler from USA:

        Yes, it is very easy to cock

    • Daniel from USA asked:

      Will they offer a rifled barrel/pellet version like thier peacemaker revolvers?

      • Tyler from USA:

        Possibly at some point in the future, but no word on that yet

    • William from USA asked:

      Is this a metal with wood rifle

      • Airgun Papa from USA:

        No, the stock and fore-end are plastic with fake wood finish. For the price, it should be wood.

    • Dan from USA asked:

      Will it have a rifled barrel pellet option?! This NEEDS a rifled barrel and pellet option!! Im throwing my wallet at the screen as it is!

      • Kade from Canada:

        Umarex representative at shot show stated that they might not want to infringe on the Walther pellet lever rifle

    • Jonpaul from USA asked:

      I have a few of the simulated ammo style cartridge loading guns like the Colt Peacemaker, the Dan Wesson models, and a few others. Are the "cartridges" from the Peacemaker the same ones used in the lever action? Are there any other "rounds" that will fit and function in the lever action rifle?

      • Tyler from USA:

        Yes, same as the peacemaker shells, those are the only we know of that will work

    • Allan from USA asked:

      Can .177 pellets be used instead of .177 steel BBs?

      • Tyler from USA:

        Don't have to use steel BBs, but definitely BBs...not pellets

    • Allan from USA asked:

      Doesn't show on UMAREXUSA web site. Discontinued?

      • Tyler from USA:

        No, just brand new

      • Jed from USA:

        It shows at Umarex now and reads 3-30-18 available date.

    • Joseph from USA asked:

      Is there a PRE- ORDER option available?

      • Tyler from USA:

        Not until there is a firm date from Umarex on when they will be available

    • Rick from Canada asked:

      can this beautiful gun be shipped to Canada........Rick...

      • Kade from Canada:

        Yes you can.

      • J-F from USA:

        To be considered a firearm in Canada you need to exceed BOTH the FPS AND the Foot/Lbs limits. This is the law "velocity greater than 152.4 meters per second (500 feet per second) AND a muzzle energy greater than 5.7 joules (4.2 foot-pounds)" which is not going to happen with a 5.1 grain BB. If you do the math, a 5.1 grains BB coming out at 535fps gives out 3.24 foot-pounds. This shouldn't be PAL rated.

      • peter from Canada:

        you can buy them in Canada right now. but u need a pal. u can ship to a us address and pick it up , then cleat through customs . but u still need a pal . it is over 500 ft per second

      • Rick from Canada:

        thanks

      • Tyler from USA:

        Sadly, no

    • michael from USA asked:

      Would think a rifled barrel pellet version would be in the works. That said will probably grab a bb version as soon as available since I have both bb and pellet Peacemakers. When , realistically will these be available?

      • Tyler from USA:

        No ETA from Umarex as of yet. I'd imagine more info will come at SHOT show in a few weeks

    • Daniel from USA asked:

      Umarex Legends Cowboy Lever Action description says Rifled barrel, is that right?

      • Tony from USA:

        Yes, please Umarex: Are you listening? Rifled barrel, pellet shooter, higher velocity, or at least 2 out of 3. Later offer a silver finish version, then later a Henry replica!! Oh yeah!. Then after that a Sharps replica, rifled barrel, pellet shooter. I can dream.

      • Daniel from USA:

        ARGHHH! bummer, what a tease, I will just wait to see if a pellet version comes out, there is no reason not to, the whole design would already be good except the barrel. For me and a bunch of others smooth bore BB only is a $150 max value, but I would jump at a $200 rifled pellet version. Umarex are you listening?

      • Tyler from USA:

        No, it is a smooth bore barrel

    • Loren from USA asked:

      Will it shoot pellet cartridges as well?

      • Tyler from USA:

        BB only from what I've been told

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