Is the front sight easy to break and is there a cover you can get to cover it ? Thank you
Yes, it is easy to break, be careful. I have owned .22 caliber Octane for 3 1/2 Years, broke mine in the 1st 6 months. The rifle fell over ono the floor. You can buy replacements, I never bothered because I never shot it without using the scope. No, there is no cover for it.
Help! I have a RWS 48 .177 with X6 scope, shooting 10.6 Piranhas. Out to 50 yards is a pass through on small game, I want to increase grains to 11 - 14, but afraid of blowing gasket, can anyone recommend a heavy pellet that acceptable for my rifle? Thanks
My personal advice, for accuracy shoot 10.00 grain and heavier pellets. Do not shoot super light weight PBA pellets, you will be asking for trouble or maybe piston problems. Do not Dry Fire without a pellet in the breech or shoot only felt cleaning pellets. Get a chronograph. Woodys World.
You will not blow gasket using 11-14 grain pellets. Never shoot your rifle with no load/pellets in the breech. The lighter the load/pellet or intentional deiseling could result in that type of damage.
Any pellet 10.5 grains and heavier will do. You have to be able to tame the recoil and weight of this beast. It wont be the rifle, it will be you. The Crosman 4.00 grain and Gamo Air Star 4.20 grain will exceed that 1450 fps depending on the weather temperature. Buy a chronograph, then you will know.
If it really does 1450 fps then a heavier pellet will help tame it some . Rifles with that much power like heavier pellets . JSB makes some really good heavy pellets for magnum airguns.
Is this air rifle more accurate than the gamo hornet maxxim .22 or should i go with the gamo hornet maxxim.22 instead? By the way i will be shooting squirrels out to about 25 yards
The only person that could answer that are those that have the Umarex Octane .22 and Gamo Hornet Maxxim .22 cal., otherwise they would be speculating. I have the Umarex Octane .22 and the Ruger Air Magnum .22, I CAN tell you, without speculation, how they compare. Why not get both of them, they are different, plus you would have two good magnum powered air rifles in your air gun arsenal. I shoot my Octane and Ruger Air Magnum equally. I have complete confidence in both of them when shooting at a 30 yard target. They both blast 14.30 grain Premiers clean thru squirrels at 30+ yards. GET A CHRONOGRAPH. Woodys World.
A squirrel is toast at 40 yards, one shot kills with the Octane and Crosman 14.30 grain dome or destroyer pellets.
A squirrel is toast at 25 yards with an Octane. I've shot right through one with 15.3 grain Exacts.One shot kills. Head shots preferred.
Anyone know of a plastic cheek riser to fit the Octane?
Not that much demand for that, so few air rifles offer that. No, Umarex does not have it for the Octane. Usually PCP Air Rifles.
Haven't heard of any yet? You might check the airgun forums for ideas ?
I NEED HELP!!!!! Hatsan 95 Air Rifle Combo, Vortex Gas Spring VS Umarex Octane Air Rifle Combo, Gas Piston I want a .22 with good accuracy and powerful can someone help me find a good sniper or rifle it doesn't have to be these 2 rifles but I want a rifle with .22 I got $200 I can do $300 but I want the best I can get
Between those two guns, I would opt for the Octane because it comes with a better scope and has a better warranty. It's also a bit more powerful. Though, if you're not opposed to a spring gun, I would highly recommend the Walther Parrus. It's a very nice rifle for the money! Walther Parrus Air Rifle, Black...
My gun seems to shoot all over I was kinda expecting better groups maybe I just need 10gr pellets I'm using 8.4 at the moment
The 10.5 grain Crosman Premier Ultra Magnum and the 10.5 grain Crosman Piranha, you can not go wrong, blasts clean thru squirrels and rabbits at 95 feet, entrance and exit wounds, one shot kills. Killer accuracy and very elocity. That Octane is too powerful for that 8.4 grain to have the accuracy your looking for. Stay with the Crosman 10.5 grain premiers, 500 for less than $10.00, you cannot beat it regardless. Woodys World. Also get a chronograph. I highly recommend that for pellet evaluation.
If you are shooting the .177 Octane, I recommend theCrosman Ultra Magnum 10.5 grain pellets for accuracy. and easy one shot kills. I have chronographed that pellet at 1001 fps, accurately. Very deadly, went thru the squirrels neck area. Lots of blood. Shot was from 85 feet.
Use h&n pellets 4.53 head size 8.64 grain my gun does pretty good wiyh those
where is the Umarex air rifles made?
Most people who criticize where it is made at or have to question that are probably driving Japanese or foreign cars, should it matter. Woodys World.
This rifle is made in China
I recently ordered the Octane and noticed that when I cock the gun, it makes an odd scraping noise that I haven't heard with other break barrels, is this normal for this gun? Also after every shot, the spring keeps ringing like if I had shot it dry, is this also normal? Thanks.
Umarex warranties the rifle for 3 years. Contact their customer service and they will advise you what to do. PA does not replace beyond 30 days.
New to spring gun. Can hit dimes at 25 yd with pcp or rimfire, but lucky to get 6 inch groups with this. I've tried to use the artillery hold but, as I said, I'm new to this. Is this a problem with the gun or me?
Practice, practice, practice... Its not the rifle, its the shooter.
I can hit clay disk that are about 8" at 75+ yards. I would try a different pellet, maybe clean the barrel, if not it may the gun. Hope this helps!
If I were to remove the elevation mount could I mount a dovetail leapers on piece mount to the gun?
I m a buyer from Malaysia,can this gun deliver to me??
What's the scopes eye relief.
Normally its 3 1/2 to 4 inches . It varies.
can this take down a turkey and if so at how many yards using .22?
Yes. Depends on how close you are able to get to him.
Check out one of the Recent episodes of American Airgunner where Rossi takes a turkey with this gun in .22 caliber.
would have to be very close. Turkey is a tough bird, so no body shots.
Does the barrel length (19.5") include the suppressor, or is this the true length of the barrel?
True length of the barrel
what is a good bipod for this rifle?
It depends on the platform you are shooting from. I use shooting bags, bi-pods, a bench/rest, or my patio railing.
don't use a bi pod , use a shooting bag....experience speaking here
Looking at customer images you could try UTG New Generation Clamp-On Bipod #PY-A-5145 ....
how accurate is this gun at 60 yards?
i have a .177. aim dead center of a AA battery at 42 yards, hits less than an 8th of an inch from my aim point on most days.
I have the .22 and is very accurate at 60 yards with crosman 14.3 gr hollowpoint.
What is the best penetration .177 or .22
I have the .22 cal,and is the best air rifle i have,better than my benjamin xl .22, better than my hatsan 125 sniper, .22, i use this rifle im my back yard,no problem.
hey guys I just got my Umarex Octane and was wondering what pellet did u guys get the best result with, as far as accuracy?
I have both Octane calibers and I use Gamo Rockets,JSB Exact diablos and H&N Barracudas in both calibers ! CPHP also did great
What caliber do you own? I find that my .177 shoots the heavies, over 8 grain the best, so go heavy. With my .22, the gun shoots a variety of pellet and weight equally well, like the Crosman Ultra Magnum 14.3, which you can get at just about any Walmart, and the JSB Jumbo Exacts 18.13 and H&N Barracuda Hunter Extreme 19.09, both having great energy retention at longer distances, i.e. past thirty-five yards with springers, albeit more expensive, but well worth the money.
Does the rifle have a creep stop hole tapped into the 11mm rail? Read the add on picatinny rail DID NOT have a creep stop pin and had been known to CREEP!
You will not need a creep stop pin. I used scope rings that have the metal "rod" that fits through the slots furnished on the scope mount. Rock solid.
What's the best pellet for 0.177 accuracy? Can this gun get 1" groups at 50 YDS?
Well, that depends on whether or not YOU can, or have those capabilities. You are going to have to experiment on that.
also jsb dommed work a bit better.
i found that H&n barracuda match 4.51 and 4.52 .177 cal. along with H&N hollow points work beautifully. also even the lighter gamo ballistic pellets. i'm getting 1/4 inch groups at 45 yards. , hold is extremely important . it took a few months to perfect a hold my gun would respond to. 800 fps with 10.65 grain H&N is what i'm getting. you have to find the pellet(s) your particular octane "likes"
From what i have read about the Octane that it;s & accurate air rife. I am getting ready to order it in the spring or sooner
22 or .177 caliber? Looks like a good choice.
My son is 12 and enjoys shooting his Ruger 10/22 (22LR) at the range. Would the Umarex Octane be a good choice for quiet backyard plinking? He has outgrown the Daisy BB gun. Or is there a better piston rifle out there for that? Thanks, Jonathan
for a beginner i would buy either the gamo big cat or a cheap crosman. if he is just plinking i would go with .177 but if he is hunting definitely buy a .22
It does weigh 9 1/2 pounds and has a 42 pound cocking effort.Read the description tab and good luck deciding.
So I'm giving serious consideration to purchasing this rifle (being one of the few gas-rams that can exceed 1000 FPS AND has iron sights), but I am not a fan of the synthetic stock. Does anyone know of a compatible hardwood replacement stock?
Sorry my bad ??????
why would you you tell him to contact gamo? umarex NOT gamo makes it. gamo would be a useless lead.
You could contact Gamo toll free at 1-888-872-4266 and inquire or check out there web page at gamousa.com?
What goups at what yards are you getting? What cheap pellets work with this gun? Can this gun kill a prairie dog at 50yrs (w/ prededer polly mags)? I saw this gun on american airgunner and he was shooting it at 100yrs is that possble? I would like this gun in .22 cal
Jeff, I only have the Umarex Octane in .22 caliber, I am using 14.3 grain Premiers, I never mentioned that I have a .177 caliber Octane. If I did, I would not use a Premier pellet less than 10.5 grain. Read it correctly. I dont use wadcutters in any caliber, Jeff. John from Woodys World.
JOHN ... 7.9 wad cutters are the wrong pellet to use with this gun. domed pellets are always the most accurate. 10.34 grain or heaveir should be used. wad cutters are for much slower guns at much shorter ranges.
I am very frustrated with the accuracy of this rifle in 0.177 so far. I have run about 300 rounds of Crosman 7.9 GR super match wadcutters through it and the groups off the bench are getting bigger not smaller. I suspect that the scope is DOA. I am working at a distance of 30 YDS. Anything less than 1" at 30 YDS for me and I consider the gun to be useless. Right now the groups have gone from about 3" to about 8" at 30 YDS. Making radical (24 click) adjustments to the scope has no effect, or it only moves the first round, so I believe that the scope is bad.
Justin, buy the rifle in the caliber that you prefer. I had a choice between the Octane .22, Octane .177, Benjamin XL 1500 or XL 1100, Gamo Hunter Extreme SE in .177 or .22 calibers. I I studied all of them and I am happy with my decision. You just have to develope good shooting skills with the air rifle of your choice. This rifle is heavy and is a beast to cock/break the barrel, it is big and just as powerful as those that I had chosen it over. Not a kids air rifle, definitely a mans air rifle. It will give your arms a workout. I also have a Gamo Big Cat 1250 in .177 cal. Nice and powerful and accurate with the 3-9X30AO Center Point. When it comes down to choosing which one to get rid of a critter, I will choose the Octane.22 with Crosman Premier pellet. I prefer those pellets in all my weapons. I shot a dove that was 80 feet up on the top branch of an oak tree. The oak tree was 50 feet from my patio. I loaded the Octane with a .22 Crosman Premier Piranha pellet, took aim with the crosshairs on his chest and pulled the trigger. I heard the pellet hit him and heard him falling thru the leaves. I retrieved his body and noticed that the pellet hit him in the chest, 2" below his beak. Very accurate air rifle when in capable hands.
Good eyesight for proper sight alignment. Do not hold the air rifle with too hard or a death grip, hold it firmly. Hold your breath prior to trigger squeeze. Gently squeeze the trigger, trying not to let your excitement or adrenaline take over because you may jerk and pull the shot. Be calm before the shot, think about it before taking the shot.
I've had my Octane .22 since January 2015. It did not have a tag in the breech. All my target and scope setting shots are conducted 70 feet away. I start off shooting at a 6" inch, then a 3", and finally a 1" target. I am obliterating that 1" target at 70 feet. Any shots closer and further than that distance I use the mil dots on my Center Point 4-12X40AO scope. I also use empty pellet tins by nailing the bottom half to a tree and then screwing the tops of the tins on the furthest one away is measured at 118 feet. Using my mil dots I am able to hit any one of them. I use Crosman Premier 14.3 grain pellets which I find to work best. What pellet manufacturer I've matching Crosman with 500 count tins for less than $10.00. I do have several other brands like JSB, Gamo, H&N, RWS, Beeman, to name a few. I also have a Chronograph. My Octane is very accurate, anything I put the crosshairs on I will hit. Some pellets you have to make sight adjustments. Some pellets may have different flight characteristics due to being heavier or lighter. I have also replaced my breech seal with the Archer Airguns XMV Tune and Pellet kit. You get 3 breech seals, 3 shims, and a tin of Stoeger X-Speed Alloy .177 pellets. I did notice a higher velocity.
Hold the rifle without putting a death squeeze, sighting in, proper breath control/hold your breath prior to trigger squeeze so you won't jerk or pull the shot off. I have had my Octane .22 for almost 11 months. I set my targets at 70 feet. My Octane .22 with Center Point mil dot scope is sigted in at 70 feet and will hit the crosshairs at that distance . My Octane is very accurate. I shoot at quarter size/1" targets and have no problem obliterating that target. It all depends on individual shooting skills from person to person. My go to pellets are Crosman 14.3 grin Premier pellets, even though I di have 11 other brands of pellets. To kill a prairie dog at that distance would have to be a head shot or eye shot. I have never had to take a hundred yard shot. I would have to work the mil dots to compensate or dial in elevation. I prefer the mil dots that I keep the scope at my ideal distance setting of 70 feet. Woody of White Marsh, Md.
Had one for a yr. now. 6 different scopes/mounts, 10 pellets variety tried. Hold from "Artillery" to death-grip. Will group 80% of the time on an 8X11" paper. Not known if it hits harder than others (just kidding. small cal pellets don't have hitting power). All about accuracy, and this beast is NOT accurate. Ironically, my standard for comparison is a Fuel .17. Very pleased w/ that. For me, @ 28 - 32 yd.
What are the torque specifications, including scope mounting, for the Umarex Octane .22 caliber air rifle combo?
If you mean for the screws holding the barrel and mech to the stock, there are probably only 3, maybe 4 and they should only need to be hand tight, use Blue Loctite 242 on the threads. The picatinny rail will help stop your scope mounts frim skiding backwards, but also a good idea to loctite the base mount and ring screws so they don't come loose, again, only hand tight. PA sells the blue loctite or you can get it and any auto parts store. Hope this helps.
what is the biggest game you would hunt with this rifle?
The biggest game that could be taken with the Octane .22 air rifle would be head shots on raccoon and fox. I would take that shot only if they were a threat, nuisance, or rabid, I would not do it for the heck of it. I have shot and killed a large ground hog that was raiding my garden. You could possibly take down a deer with a 20 yard shot between the eyes or thru the eyeball. If you don't kill him with those shots he will be all over the place and could attract attention. I am not interested in deer meat to attempt that.
Large game such as raccoon or fox can be/should b taken with head shots, thru the eye if possible. But a head shot could do it.
A better question might be what do you want or need to shoot and then buying the right caliber rifle to fit your needs. You can also find some very good videos on YouTube done by a gentleman named Rick Eutsler that review different brands and calibers of air rifles..it was how I finally decided on the the rifle I ended up buying here at PA.
How does the included scope hold up to the recoil?
I shot my Octane .22 for six months with the included scope Iwithout any problems. I did switch to a 4-12X40AO Center Point mil dot scope as an upgrade with no problems. By counting the number of .22 caliber. tins I have emptied I can say that I have shot over 2,000 pellets without any problems anything related to that air rifle other checking and tightening screws which should be done with any rifle on a routine basis or after any shooting session.
Revised (after just discovering that my .22 Octane has been suffering from Baffle Contact). Now find that the scope is good, except the Range Select has reverted to infinity only.
My AO 40 failed, presumably from the shock. Other scopes (and a BSA Red Dot held up. But bottom line for me (see my review) is that an Octane .22 simply cannot be held - "Artillery Hold" to near vise-grip. My Octane purchased a yr-ago (2nd, actually to replace a bummer 1st purchase)and don't know if the current Octane is made the same.
I cave a .22 cal. Crosman Nitro Venom. How does this rifle compare in accuracy and power?
All breakbarrel air rifles differ somewhat but they operate the same. Break the barrel, cock it , load the pellet, close the barrel, shoulder it, aim, and pull the trigger. They all do that.
Hard to compare since chinese guns vary drastically in those areas so you'd need to take an avg estimate because a single gun of each will do little good. This will have more power than the Venom because the Octane is a physically larger magnum class gun and the Venom is not. The quality of the bore in my Octane is better than most Crosman and other cheaper airguns, and a great many people are very happy with the accuracy. So it's more powerful and probably more accurate on average. There are other pros/cons with each gun too, like the Octane's size and weight, price, cocking effort, and a trigger with little room for improvement. The Crosman trigger is not good either but can improved drastically, and since there are plenty of inexpensive and interchangeable parts for the Crosman, repairs and improvements are cheap. The Octane is much harder, maybe impossible to find parts for, and if available they're no doubt much more expensive. My solution is/was to buy both guns. I think .22 is the best match for the Octane's power, and the .177 a better match for the Venom. Changing the caliber on the Crosman is another bonus, which you can do to yours if you want for cheap. The Trail XL is a Crosman magnum so a little better comparo, and the XL will on avg make more power than this.
do wee need to fill Gas every time we use this gun ?
I think what thru you off is the "Gas"-Piston? It's really a gas spring, which simply replaces the coil spring this design used before. Instead of compressing a steel spring it compress a gas one, and like the steel one you use it over and over. The gas spring is very much like the ones used on many car and SUV hatchbacks to support the doors weight when open. So no you don't need to charge it with gas or air, it simply replaces a long coil spring. There are youtube vids and airgun mfg vids to look at too.
t is charged by a single stroke break barrel action. You cock the barrel, load the pellet, close and shoot. This is not a pcp
do we need to fill the gas every day? how to fill the gas in this gun please help ....
The reaxis gas piston is inside a sealed gas chamber that never needs refilling. It will not lose gas which is compressed when you cock or break the barrel. Gas is not lost when shooting. When cocking, the piston compresses the gas, regular air replaces the void caused by the compressed gas. When you shoot the weapon, the compressed gas pushes the piston which violently pushes the air out the breach and into the skirt of the pellet without any gas loss.
It is charged by a single stroke break barrel action. You cock the barrel, load the pellet, close and shoot. The gun can be left cocked but I would not do so while left unattended or in storage at least for safety reasons And potential durability issues.
Does the gun still come with tag that flattens o ring still 02/14/15 ? If yes does pyramid air have a new breech seal for it?
I purchased my Octane .22 from Umarex in January 2015, it did not have a breech tag, but I did get the Archer Air Guns XMV tune kit and made the easy to do change. I put the three shims in before pressed the new seal in place. I did notice more recoil and all of my .22 shots penatrate a half inch wood board at 80 feet easily.
No tag in breech - August 2015 model. That said It doesn't appear evenly seated - so I'm not yet sure if it's seating well. I'll probably get the Archer kit to check and for instructions and such.
Yes,and you can get a new breech seal kit at ArcherAirguns,is the same breech seal that the Ruger air magnum use.
How does one go about removing the silencer? I know it is listed as permanent, but it isn't cast on the barrel, so they had to put it on there somehow...
Burn it off is probably the only way, If you insist on removing it.
I hope that you have not dieseled the air rifle. That could possibly damage the silencer or internal seals in the breech. That will void your warranty.
Why would you want to remove it? By removing it you will not increase the velocity. There have been before and after chronograph tests that did not show an increase in velocity.
Why would you want to remove it? Those that have removed them have not measured velocity increases on chronograph so.
Umarex said: "It cannot be removed" (and admitted it is glued on). I have fought the .22 Octane terrible accuracy for a yr now. 6 scopes/rings, 15 ammos, Holds, etc. tried. Just discovered (no thanks to UmaRex) that "silencer" has been randomly whipping and contacting pellet. So, warranty be damned, I drilled a larger hole to a depth of about 1.5" (2 sections of plastic). Couldn't go deeper because inside cylinder was spinning. But getting the exit end is probably the most important. Incidentally, I used a plastic "soda" straw to measure depths. Steel muzzle end seems to measure at 4" depth. Now actually shooting groups that are reasonable. If this fails, I will simply hack-saw the baffle off (approx. at the 1st groove nearest butt). And don't waste your time w/ UmaRex Help. They'll just read the Riot Act to you.
It's probably glued on. If you really want it off I can tell you how I'd go about it, which is how I remove sights and what not that are glued on other barrels. I put a 12" adjustable wrench on the barrel so it's just loose enough to slide, then slide it against the tip and hit the wrench with a hammer. You can wrap a sheet of paper around the barrel to prevent scratches. The tip may be difficult and get dinged up in the process, but you should be able to sand the marks and glue it back on if you need. This is all my theory since I've never taken one off, but that's how I'd go about it. If all fails you could cut it or heat the barrel, both may be risky but possible.
Hi, The combo scope is 30mm or 25? And The otee question: this scope works with low mounts?
It is a 3-9x40 ao with a 1" tube. No, you need at least medium.
The scope has a 1" tube. The mounts included would be considered as low mounts. Any scope with a larger than 40mm objective would require higher mounts though.
Has the mis-fire problem been addressed by Umarex yet ?
After over 2,000 rounds on my Octane .22, no mis-fires here. Never even heard of that problem.
I've had mine about 6 months and never experienced any problems. It's a .177 version.
These rifles work well, no issues with mine.
What is the difference of a reaxis gas piston Compared to a regular gas piston?
watch the video, it shows - basically reversed the position of the piston. theoeretically should transfer more energy
Does this Octane have the same barrel as the Ruger Air Mag .22? Both are from Umarex and both seem to come with flat breach seals...
Yes, the Umarex Octane and the Ruger Air Magnum have the same barrel except the Octane has the Silence System with the front optical sight and the Ruger Air Magnum has no Silence System, but it has a front blade sight. I have both rifles, that is the difference. Woodys World. Get a chronograph. They both take the same XMV Breech Seal kit.
They look exactly alike except the Octane has a silence on it.
The .22 caliber Octane has more power/velocity than the Crosman Nitro Venom. You should have bought a chronograph by now.
Get the Archer Airguns XMV Tune Kit. Go on www.archerairguns.com and a kit which consists of 3 breech seals and 3 shims and install the shims and one breech after you pick the old out. Use something with a sharp point to pick it out. You can press in the new seal with your thumb. Should not take 2 minutes.
I believe this is a redux of the RAM, with some upgrades and apparently better quality, because unlike the RAM, people seem pretty happy with this gun. The RAM is a cheap chinese copy of the Diana 350, and it is either like the B28, or it is the B28. I would imagine the barrels of the RAM and Octane are interchangeable, but I can't say about the quality of the bore other than the positive cust reviews. If you're asking which to get, I'd get this over the RAM w/o question.
This rifle bungle doesn't have a 20 for $20 Service Plan, Why
It shows both 10 fer 10 and 20 fer 20 available for me. Not that I thing they're worth it. I would spend it on pellets...
Do you mount the scope when doing the 10 shots for $10?
No, but Pyramyd Air does mount it and zeros gun in when doing 20 for $20
life of gas piston? is the gas good for so many shots? how do you know when it needs to be replaced. watched video on gas replacement so when does it need to be done
I would not compare a gas piston in an airgun to a cars coil springs and gas struts. Gas pistons and springs in air rifles compress the air and then violently release the air to shoot projectiles well over a thousand feet per second. A cars springs and gas struts are designed to absorb shock and give you a smooth and comfortable ride.
Val: I have had 10x more coil guns that nitro/gas, and shot them 100x more. Yet I've never broken a single coil... Friends report similar #'s. Just saying all gas springs guns should be checked now and the considering the odds. A car has many coil springs, and many see millions of cycles yet failure is very rare. Many cars also have gas struts very similar to the nitro spring, and most of those fail with very little use.
Just like regular coil springs fail too. I have seen Turkish and Chinese springs break only after 2-3,000 shots. Just like everything in life...
I can't speak for the spring in this gun, but I expect it's no different that all the other cheaper guns where the springs have a rather high failure rate from leakage. Some are dead when they arrive at your door, some only start to leak after you start using it. I've had about a third fail. One problem is they often leak over time so many people don't notice until the warranty is over. This has a 3yr warranty which is nice, just be sure they cover shipping both ways because the shipping may be more than the spring. To test it all you have to do is measure cocking effort. It will drop some at first as the gun wears in and friction drops, so maybe measure after 100 or so shots, then keep tabs on it. They're typically harder to cock and break more scopes, but otherwise pretty cool. Life span of springs that don't leak in the first year or so is unknown because they are new, but like car/SUV hatch struts they don't last forever.
Can be mounted in a bipod? I dont see it have a picatinny rail
It's still a "springer", and very hold sensitive, so I am skeptical it will be very accurate when using a bipod.
You can use a clip-on one like Ramline which are very inexpensive and work great.
Is the silencer legal in Massachusetts ?
There are no restrictions on consumer air guns in MA.
Here is the same author referenced by Beeman (Tom Gaylord). And his article on Pyramyd Air's web site
You can read this which is scary imo: http://www.beemans.net/silencers_on_airguns.htm Also, claims like "not removable" or "not surviving on a firearm" are not true and not a valid defense. Imo odds are nothing is going to happen to 99.99% of people who get stopped, but I wouldn't push my luck which is why mine don't leave my property.
This "silencer" is an integral part of the rifle and cannot be removed from it. As such it's not considered a silencer by ATF.
Many reviewers have mentioned they had to buy a new O-ring for the breech. Mine was alright, but can anyone tell me what size O-ring it is? Just in case I end up needing one.
I purchased a breach seal kit from ArcherAirguns which comes with 3 breech seals and 3 shims. It is the XMV tune and pellet kit that also comes with a tin of Stoeger Airguns X-Speed .177 alloy pellets. The breech seals will fit Ruger air rifles, both .177 and .22. The breech seal will fit regardless of caliber. I did not change because I felt that breech seal was bad or flat. There was no tag in the breach when I purchased mine from Umarex in January of 2015. It was reported that the breach seal was not properly sealing. When I did change the breech seal, I also put three shims under the seal causing a tighter breech seal. I highly recommend this. I immediately noticed a stronger recoil and noticeable velocity increase.
My breech seal was flattened to , Evan with this issue this gun hits harder than my diana 460 , this rifle has a ton of power and very accurate rate out of the box .the two don't usually go hand in hand !
Is the same breech seal that the ruger air hawk and the blackhawk air rifle use.
What lubricant is recommended for the reaxis and the breech seal?
USE ONLY SILICONE LUBE! NEVER , EVER USE ANY PETROLEUM OILS OF ANY KIND ANYWHERE NEAR THE BREACH! EVER!
Lubricating the breech seal may cause dieseling which could damage your air rifle.
I would imagine that plain ol' Crosman Chamber Oil should be equiv. UmaRex will probably disagree.
Umarex recommends "RWS air chamber lube" for the reaxis piston and the breech seal.
Does anyone know the twist rate of the rifling? I want to be able to shoot cylindricals and have had bad luck in slow twist guns.
How did you count the twist rates, or where did you obtain that info?
Usually .177 has a 1 in 9 twist rate and 22 cal. has a 1 in 16 twist rate but these aren't mentioned anywhere that i could find. It think it would vary from manufacture to manufacture. It is best to email umarex for this info to be sure if you really need to know.
A week ago was 3-medium, and now is 4-medium-high.????
You would have to get a decibel/dB meter.
If you read the blog you'll find that the 3.7 was during break in with combustions still prelavent, after break in he was very sure that it was a 3 and mentioned that this gun is very quite and after break in is backyard suitable.
Tom Gaylord, a.k.a. B.B. Pelletier, had this changed after reviewing this gun in his Airgun Academy blog on Nov. 14 (https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/). He rates it a 3.7 for loudness and rounded up. In my experience, I would rate it a 3 for loudness.
Has anyone run this through a chronograph? I wonder if the claims are true.
If you are talking about the factory claim of 1450 fps for the .177 of 1450 fps with alloy/pba pellets, Crosman's High Velocity SSP(super sonic pellet) is 4.00 grams in weight will probably approach that claim. If you diesel the alloy pellet, it probably will equal 1450 fps. The .22 caliiber 9.00 alloy/pba Crosman SSP may approtach 1250 fps and may equal if it is dieseled. All air guns regardless of brand are said to have their advertised rating that says, for example, "up to 1300 fps with alloy pellets." They don't say what pellet or how it was shot. Dieseling does increase fps on pellets if you apply oil into the pellet skirt after you load it into the breech, then shoot it. Logical thinking is that a pellet with a lighter gram weight will have a faster fps, that may not always be true, especially when comparing two different brands. Pellet skirt design has a lot to do with that. Also be advised that dieseling could cause damage to an air rifle if done too frequently. John from USA: Aka Woody's World CEO.
After replacing the breech seal and using shims from the Archer Airguns XMV Tune Kit I chronographed my Octane .22 with Crosman Premier 14.3 grain pellets and I got an average of 968fps. That can differ with hot and cold air temperatures. Winter cold air, due to the air being lighter, should result in higher foster readings. Chronographed should not be used in temperatures colder than 32 degrees.
After replacing the flat breech seal, I put about 100 pellets through the gun before these tests, and here are my results for 5 shots of each (pellet,weight, average fps +/- approx range): H&N Field Target Trophy Green, 9.56 gr, 1038 +/- 20 (200 fps or 16% slower than claimed performance); RWS Superdome, 14.5 gr, 800 +/- 5; Beeman Kodiak, 21.14 gr, 683 +/- 0
They are pretty close. I have shot a few 22's and they do in fact break 1000 fps with most of the lighter weight (non-alloy ammo).
I have already spoken with an expert here about this gun and I am confident that I want it, but one concern still bothers me and that concern is the cheek rest. It doesn't look too face friendly, and if you've shot this gun, I was wondering if you had input on the cheek rest. I'm not sure if this is too relevant but I have a very gaunt face, so I don't have much padding.
The only thing you can do is adjust to it. Woodys World.
I had the same concern about this cheek rest , don't worry to much if you like open sights its perfect ! Not unusable with the scope either .
The stock is OK with the open sights. With the scope, it's very difficult to have a consistent hold.
It's got a decent angle to it so it does not cause any discomfort. The cut out in the stock is not really felt when you get settled into the rifle.
What is the trigger like on the umarex vs the hatsan? Is the umarex made at the same plant as crosman? I am considering one of the two, which do you think would be the better deal not considering the two different power plants.
I have shot both, the Umarex trigger is lighter and just as crisp as the Hatsan Quattro trigger unit. I am not sure where in China they are made in relation to the Crosman guns. I would go with the Umarex
For another $50 I can get an RWS 34P TO6. Is it That good? Made in China?
Octane is a solid gun. I really enjoy mine. It's easy as heck to shoot and has a ton of power.
My 34 T06 has the wood stock purchased 6/15/2013 and is awesome. But, yes it has a lifetime wty. but the spring & seals only have an 18 mo. wty. and the spring broke 2 mo. out of wty. Go figure-
The RWS 34P Made in Germany. It mite not have the Power, but, it has way batter Trigger and is more accurate also. Plus you have a Life time Warranty. I have them both!!
It comes with a gas Reaxis gas spring which provides a completely different experience. This air rifles is also more powerful than RWS 34. Yes, this air rifle is made in China.