Hatsan Model 25 SuperTact QE Reviews

Mine came broken and not accurate

Better bolt for connecting the firing mechanisms to the frame

The compactness, adjustable sock.

Make it reliable and have good quality control, the gun failed after 25-50 shots. Doing research on airgun forums after the gun failed I've learned that it has lots of issues. One thing I notice is the trigger housing is made of plastic which can easily bend and twist, in my opinion it should be metal, it would be a lot more stable and sturdier.

Do your research on it before buying.

powerfull carbine good sights fun gun

pistol grip is too small and should be ambidextrous

no cocking aid was included , it is every bit of 58 lbs of effort , not a kids gun , breakbarrel pistols should all have an optional stock- trevox and trail need to step up !

Hard hitting power and awesome accuracy.

Internal parts need to be upgraded to machine metal.

After waiting months for this rifle to become available again, I immediately ordered one. This is a cool looking rifle and it has power and accuracy. Unfortunately, Hatsan spent 99 percent of cost and quality on the outside of the rifle. The internal mechanism which surrounds the trigger is all plastic. After about 70 rounds of shooting the trigger and sear failed. I cooked the gun , inserted a pellet, and as I was pushing the barrel back in locking position, the barrel sprung from my hand and fired a pellet straight through my patio umbrella . This rifle is dangerous and Hatsan should be ashamed to sell this weapon. I really wanted to love this rifle and I still would buy it again if Hatsan comes up with an updated version that has quality inside and out. I am still very sad because this was going to be a small rifle with enough power and accuracy to rid my barn of rats.

So I have had this little compact rifle in .22 for a couple weeks now and I can say that I am very impressed with it. First off it is very accurate with JSB 18.13 grain pellets which are the ones that seem to do the best in it for me. The open site's work well and at 20yrds you will have no problems hitting a squirrel or a rabbit with the open sites. I put a red dot site on it and it is a tack driver at 20 to 25yrds with the jsb 18.13 grain pellets but after that distance the shot group opens up more. this is definitely a closer range gun. it has nice power as well and I would have no problem pesting with it or even taking a squirrel or rabbit at 20 to 25yrds with it all day long. it does have a pretty decent recoil from the spring though so better make sure what ever you put on it can handle the shock. I am planning on trying a crossbow 4x32 scope on it to see how that does and if I can step out the accuracy a little more with it at 30yrds. Great little bug out gun for sure!

get rid of the right handed grip thing and just make it ambidextrous for left and right handed shooter's! I am a lefty and I alway's hat it when I see a great gun with a right handed only grip or set up on it!

best pellets I have found so far that work great in this gun are the JSB 18.13 grain pellets

Light weight backpackable . Doesn't require an air source . Can be scoped . Adjustable cheek riser . Plan to install a BSA 2x20 pistol scope on mine with a one piece BKL mount .

A lot more plastic on this model . The compression tube and maybe the barrel and cocking linkage is metal but that's about it . Even the actual breech and trigger is plastic . No way to install a moderator on this model , not overly noisy , but could be quieter. Does come with open sights but seem kind of cheesy . Other reviewers have said the front sight does come loose after several rounds . Keeping an eye on mine .

Out of the box mine would not stay in the cocked position , I had to adjust the triggers front screw . Then it would activate the automatic safety and work as intended . The release button for the stock is very difficult to depress . Left hand grips are available .

Compact design, accuracy is acceptable for plinking, Headshot on squirrels at 25 yards max. I wish all of my guns had this trigger.

I bought the spring version. If I had it to do again, I would go compressed air type piston. I went from regular sites which were ok to red dot to pistol scope but had some difficulty finding mounts and a scope short enough. This is an airgun that needs a 4 power scope if the user desires to drive tacks at 25 yards. The scope I was able to mount is only 2 power. Performance may vary as I have old eyes...

I had to return the first one due to trigger problems. The second Hatsans trigger is spot on. Before shooting I would loosen stock mounting screws and add lock tight. This gun can be accurate past 25 yards. It depends on the distance that you set as battle sight zero. I sight in at 20 yards, plink at 40 yards on a 6" frying pan and can also do the same at 50 yards occasionally with a 3" holdover. Having the short barrel and spring limitations this airgun meets my expectations. If you get a good one at the current price point chances are that you will also be satisfied.

The gun is built like a tank, it feels even burlier than my Browning 800, I like shooting it and expect it to last forever and ever and ever... I like the sights in pistol form, but they get too close in carbine form so I put on a dot sight which works for both. I like that Quattro trigger at least as much as the Brownings, it breaks cleanly. In pistol form, 10 meters, wrists rested, Im getting close to half-inch groups with Predator GTOs and Winchester MVPs (I shoot lead free; welcome to California, man!). For me, that is good shooting! Better than my Browning 800, which also suggests that the anti-recoil sledge of the 800 Express or Hatsan Supercharger may not actually give any better accuracy. I use the 1911 hold BB described (grip with middle finger into the thumb web, with everything else loose), otherwise it groups poorly and shoots too high.

It is a bear to disconnect the stock from the pistol, even with lube slathered all over the fitting. Medium, and then fine sand paper gave it a manageable fit. The threads for the cocking extension are not cut exactly in line with the barrel, and so the far opening of that extension isn't exactly centered, but pellets are not clipping so no problem. I found cocking the stock power plant to be rough, see below.

Light pellets make the gun shoot harshly and after cocking this gun a few dozen times my delicate palm started to bruise, so I performed a 1 cent de-tune, pulling the spring and replacing the top hat with a penny, which reduces both piston weight and spring preload. Now each shot has a springy drumhead feel instead of a clank, and it is easier to cock; see my review of the Browning 800 Express for details. If I were slinging lead, Id leave it stock and wear a glove. I think mine is shooting closer to the spec. 600fps than the 450 Pyramyd found on their gun, but that is a guess from time-of flight. For the rifle form, I couldnt get it to shoot well holding it like a spring rifle (artillery hold). I have to grip it like a pistol (like BB Pelletier says for the 1911), and with my off-hand's open palm under the grip, and the stock lightly resting at my shoulder. Then it groups as well as the pistol and moreover the aim point is much closer to the pistol's point.

Size, fairly accurate with jsb 15.9, adequate power

I would like better quality sturdier iron sights on this nice little gun. The front sight tower on mine can rotate around the barrel freely and the setscrew strips easily before tightening due to the front sight tower being made of plastic. Hard to hold zero when the sight tower can move from side to side.

I really like this carbine just wish it came with better quality iron sites

Great as the carbine! as a pistol its to heavy! used a dove to weaver adapter, and a offset leapers weaver mount, and a 3-9x32 Hammers rifle scope, the rifle has a scope stop plate on it to keep the dove from moving, and the weaver is not moving. dieseled a lot for the first hundred pellets, and was somewhat erratic on groups at 10 yards, but came in nice after break in. pretty much hole in hole now. I use JSB 7.87 pellets seem to work well. Trigger is good out of the box, and adjustable if you need to. adjustable stock for length, and comb height.

not much. the only thing would be the barrel lockup mechanism Hatsan uses. could be designed better, like the lockup on my stoeger x20 s2.

This pistol shoots best as a carbine with a riflescope!!

Fun little gun, comfy to hold, I am right handed and I like the grips. I like it set up as a small carbine rather than the pistol. I like the threaded muzzle extender included, it helps with cocking.

The safety is a bit cumbersome. The dovetail is rather short and forward, I am looking for a (cheap) adaptor to maybe just to go weaver/picatinny that can set the scope further back. I tried a small 4x32 on the rails but it sits too far forward and interferes with the break action. A red dot probably wouldn't be an issue but I fancy scopes.

Stiff spring to cock, noticeable when fired. It has a good kick but I have not yet broken it in fully. Trigger is not as nice as my other Hatsans but I haven't finished breaking it in. Can't say much for accuracy at this point as I have not been able to scope mine. Open sights tho, it did put them in ok groups. Overall I do like it, it has pretty good power for its size

Pretty much everything!

Pretty much nothing!

I really love this airgun! I've had it for about a month now (it was a Christmas present) and I think my other airguns are getting jealous! There are however a few things worth mentioning: It has a pretty long break-in period. I've put roughly 750 rounds through it and it is a different gun now compared to when it was new. It really smoothed out nicely! Regarding muzzle velocity: I have the .22 version. It seems to prefer RWS pellets. Using RWS .22 cal. 11.9 grain wadcutters I get between 520 and 540 fps, which was better than I was expecting! :-) The trigger is great after you get it dialed in, which is easy if you've done it before. If you haven't, read up on the subject before turning any screws! I can't comment on the sights because I immediately put a dovetail-to-Picatinny rail adapter and a 30 mm single dot reflex sight on it. Accuracy is excellent! Overall, it's a very cool looking and solid breakbarrell that is really fun to shoot!! Highly recommended!!

This gun is great for smaller game. It is not as powerful as I thought it would have been but am satisfied.

The open sights on this gun is terrible I would definitely get a red dot or a small scope to mount on it

Best chance with hunting is to stay within at least 15 yards

Great looking gun, super comfy and pretty easy to cock. The safety

Can't really think of anything

Another hatsan product makes me happy. I have the browning 800 22cal also and the safety on this is way better (not so close to the trigger and you don't scrape your finger when disengaging. The stock on this gun is better quality than on my smith and wesson AR 15 (500$) It's just awesome for $129!!!! Can't beat it.....gunna be a great open sights can popper when it gets warm!!!

power. i have not tested it with my chrony yet but it seems to whack the target instantaneously. mfr. says 700 fps, i wouldnt be surprised if that's correct. also like the fact it has an adjustable trigger.

this is my first gun with truglo sights, not sure i like them. (i have several rifles and pistols from several countries)either the gun is not very accurate (with or without the 'air stripper')or the sights are confusing me. i'm using them like iron sights but no matter the sight adjustment, the pellet seems to go somewhere else and it's not consistent. maybe more practice....

has a removable stock but is difficult to use as a pistol. it's large and trying to cock it without the stock on is next to impossible due to the short barrel and very strong spring. overall it's well-finished and powerful. still getting used to the sights and for now i hope it's just me and that the gun is not inaccurate.

Everything....I have the .22 cal and it is a very nice gun to add to my collection. I have only shot it a dozen times and it seems accurate rite out of the box. Although a little on the heavy side even without the stock attached. It is a big gun for a pistol but love the power and feel of this gun. The sights are the best I have seen,super nice!!!

Weight

Comes with a free Air Suppressor I guess it increases accuracy and read it should be adjusted to 4mm from end of barrel. I put it on and it works great and looks super cool. A very nice .22 cal for the money.

the grips on the receiver and action part of the gun are very nice and comfortable to hold. The easy clip on rear stock could fit together a whole lot tighter though however it is easy to use and adjust.

Urgh urgh urgh- More Power! Urgh urgh urgha.

Nice it works well, it's one damn big pistol or one compact little rifle so it can still be used at short ranges for targets indoors or outside but I wouldn't bother even attempting to use it for small game. For the price on a break barrel pistol it's great and great quality to get it in the .22 because the break barrel is so cheap and easy to use and the larger .22 pellets really destroy targets.

I ordered one on looks and price and it was my third Hatsan. I liked the idea that it was both a hsnd gun and a carbine. Most of all I liked that it was advertised by Hatsan as firing af 600fps. The pistol grip was great and by cocking it in front of me it was great for muscle building exercise to cock for each shot. Break barrel guns do not require Co2 or an air pump or dive tank.

Well I think Hatsan really blow it by advertising that this gun shot 600FPS.I think that the gun should shoot tighter groups then 4 or 5 inches at 25 Yards. I always buy the 10 for $10 and it Cronyed just under 450Fps. Slower speeds are not unusal for a new gun and then as they wear in they shoot at fastet speeds. I finally got mine up to 487fps pretty far from 600 fps.

When mine first arrived it was necessary to literally force pellets into the barrel. I had 6 differdnt brands of 22 pellets in my box. It is easy to split into a pistol or go back to carbine.I think most people will use as carbine since the pistol is quite heavy. If you buy this you will havd better luck shooting cans and such because the one I had was not made for scoring tight groups on paper.The rear sights are entitely too wide for tight shooting. I think a laser might be the best way to improve accuracy of this model. I replaced it with a Crosman 2240 and I was blown away by the balance and accuracy. It shoots the very affordable Crossman.22 pellets And gets at least 60 high powered shoots from Co2 cartridge.If you buy the carbine conversion grips you are Still under $100 bucks. P.A. is great to deal with and never question an exchange.

Power. feel. Looks cool.

My stock broke. Front sight is kinda weird.

I could not for the life of me get any accuracy with stock on. Exchanged it for something different. No hastle refund.

For a pistol with a stock this thing has power. I got the 22 version so I can knock down some vermin when needed but mostly use for target practice. Open sights are great and accuracy is good most of the time - see below for explanation.

Need longer dovetail mount for scope. Most Scopes wont fit as the front of the scope will clash with the break in barrel when cocking unless an offset mount is used. It also needs a hole for a stop pin also. I have used Scopes, Red Dots and hologram sights and they all creep due to the hard recoil. The extended muzzle break/cocking aid also starts to loosen up over time. Even when only half a turn out pellets can clip on their way out throwing accuracy way off. I had to drill it out to 5/16 to eliminate the chances on this happening again as the 1st time it took me forever to figure out way I was getting the random inaccuracy. I also used plumbers tape to create a tighter but non permanent grip in the threads to keep it from moving.

This thing eats red dot sights for lunch due to the hard recoil. At least anything in the $50 range, I have gone through 3 different kinds in the 1st 1000 rounds. I am sure higher priced/higher quality ones will last longer but I am not willing to spend $200 on a sight for a $150 dollar gun. Also as mentioned above nothing will hold still creeps all the way back. I even used an extra scope mount to clamp down and it was pushed back so hard due to recoil that it bent out of shape. If you are ok with open sights then its a fun gun. It appears most reviews and online tests don't address much of the above issues as the are done in the 1st 100 rounds or so. This is a 1000 round review and I probably spent half my time zeroing in a new sight, re-zeroing one that moved (about every 50 rounds regardless of how tight you clamp them down) or switching back to open sights. Yes I did clean the rails with a degreaser to get off all the oil as well as using Rosen (pine resin) to create as much friction as possible in the grooves of the clamp which helped a little but not a cure. I know there has to be a combination of clamps and sights that will work and stay working - I just have not found it yet. I will update this review once I have the magic combination.