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Things I liked:Extremely powerful and the kick/vibration of each shot is very minimal. I've shot the Benjamin Trail XL in .22 cal as well and I ended up returning it due to the jarring vibration I felt with each pull of the trigger. This occurred even after I put a few hundred pellets through the gun. The Walther Talon however, is a pleasure to shoot with the same power-plant. I don't know if its the SAS the Walther's have, or the synthetic stock or a combination of several things but I love the power coupled with comfortable shooting.By SMBH999 from USA on 2012-01-16 10:53:54
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Things I would have changed:The scope, like most package scopes, is junk. I would like to see the gun offered with just the fiber optic sights for less allowing the purchaser to choose and buy his choice of optics.
What others should know:This is not a plinky dinky airgun. Most strong grown men will struggle to cock this airgun after 20 or 30 shots one after another. I'm over 6' and weigh over 250lbs and I find this to be the case. Though repetitive use will strengthen the particular stabilizer muscles required for the cocking motion so it gets easier with each shooting session.
Things I liked:powerfull accurateBy TY from USA on 2012-01-10 15:49:45
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Things I would have changed:little heavy
Things I liked:Very high power and accurate. I just shot 6 rounds and had 2 of them in the same hole in the duct sealer back stop. Likely all 6 would be in the same hole if I was a match grade shooter and had more experience with the rifle. The weight of the rifle helps to steady it although a front support is suggested. The gun is balanced far to the forward end. The picatinny scope mounting is well done although a transverse slot further back would be preferred to allow mounting the scope further back. The safety works well. It is easy to slide on and off with just the thumb. The trigger has a nice pull although the factory stroke is longer than my preference. It is adjustable. The aim point is sensitive to the method of holding the rifle. My traditional hold is tightly. A light hold as suggested by several reviewers causes a lateral shift of approx 0.5inch at 10meters. I have not shot enough rounds to determine which method results in a better pattern since I am still becoming familiar with the rifle. The rifle pushes back quite a bit when fired if held tightly. Interestingly, if held very lightly, it does not appear to move. It can even be rested on top of the shoulder as suggested for the AirForce air rifles to aviod cocking the neck over.By John from USA on 2012-01-01 21:52:05
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Things I would have changed:A lighter setup would be nice since a free-standing stance is hard to maintain for long especially after adding a 50mm scope. A lower cocking load would allow a longer shooting session. I would appreciate a more complete manual.
What others should know:This is the best rifle I have ever used, and amazingly it is an air rifle of this quality. Using a 50mm scope requires the use of a high mount to clear the barrel. The cocking load is noted as very high. I am in my mid-50s, weigh mid-190s, and have a desk job. I was able to shoot 40rounds within 1 hour the first night of using it. I quit because the sun set. So I find the cocking load to be manageable although it does provide a significant upper body work-out. Shooting several hundred rounds would require strength training or a barrel extension to reduce the load. The noise level is reasonable. I have sensitive hearing and do not find the noise to be of concern even indoors. Use a pellet pen to avoid getting salty fingerprints on the face of the breech. Both the leaded Benjamin Discovery and the H&N Baracuda Green (lead-free) pellets have shot well. The barrel was pretty dirty as received. Use the suggestion of other reviewers and clean the barrel before using. I am looking forward to using the iron sights. They appear to be of high quality and easy to use and adjust. Click adjustment in both elevation and windage.
Things I liked:I like its power with .177 cal. My target range has included a low hanging empty food can. My earlier (no-so-magnum) .177 cal. pellet gun can easily push 8gr pellets through it at 20 yds. When hit, the can swings back 'n forth for 5-10 sec. When this can is pierced with a 8gr pellet from the Walther Talon it just quivers at the end of the support string. I conclude that the ammo here is traveling sufficiently faster as not to effectively push the can before broaching it. Pushing a clean patch through the barrel, from the breech with a small wood dowel, the lands & grooves of the barrel seem to better grip the patch and turn the rod in my hand.By Peter from USA on 2011-12-28 21:35:53
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Things I would have changed:The scope that comes with this gun is not of quality. I would rather the price of the gun be dropped $25. and it sold without a scope. The newer Quattro trigger does have usable adjustments, but some still might prefer a 'Charlie de tuna' replacement trigger. I may still do this at some point next year.
What others should know:Right now, after 200-300 pellets through it, it consistently breaks the sound barrier with pellets light than 6 or 7gr. To quiet the discharge, I am learning to shoot this gun with 8 - 11gr ammo. So far the Kodiak Match .177, 10.2gr seem to group the best. I have still to try as likely contenders: the copper plated Kodiaks and Beracude Power pellets. Yes, it is tougher to cock than other guns I've owned so it is best used as a hunter. The Niro piston seems to perform as claimed, but I have not hunted in cold weather and I cannot verify the gun's power in temperatures below 35 F. For me in my learning curve, the gun is hold sensitive. The Artillery hold is import:: Find a front grip balance support and use it repeatedly -- then learn to move the trigger independently to the rear without disturbing the sight picture. I am trying different trigger holds and finger placements to best accomplish this. At 25 yds the best 4-shot grouping I have shot is 3/4 inch -- but right now I can't repeat it as ofter as I'd like to.
Things I liked:Will Freeman from Horaito SC. Every thing had this WTM NP.177 four a year now.Its the beast of air guns watch the video on airgun web Rick is the best.Power it will shoot 1400 fps and more with light weight pellets.What i like it will shoot heavy weights fast too.10.5 to 13.4 875fps to 950 fps!By Will from USA on 2011-12-28 20:32:30
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Things I would have changed:The trigger, it will get a little better after shooting it alot like i have 2500 shots or better.
What others should know:GET THE SCOPE TO STAY PUT this will help alot. My gun weights in at 11.5 lbs. WTM NP 8-32x56 scope it will reach out and hit a 18" target at 250 yards i did 7 out 10 shots.I dont thjnk you can go wrong with this gun.It is hard to cock it after alot of shoting.
Things I liked:Great accuracy, rifle has a nice & solid weight to it, its got a metal trigger, pretty quite - wont wake up the neighbors...By Joshua from USA on 2011-11-05 14:05:11
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Things I would have changed:1)I wish 1) the cheek piece was ambidextrous - I am left handed, & 2) I would make the sights metal instead of plastic....
What others should know:Unlike what I have reead from other reviews I feel as though this gun feels very solid (not hollow) and also it realyl isnt that heavy or hard to cock - an exception of course if you are under 130 punds or so....
Things I liked:This is my first .25. I was so impressed with the .177 version that simply had to buy this as i was looking for a .25. No disappointment here. It is incredibly powerful, 5 shots is all it took to set it up for groups of less than 1" at 30 yards using a Leapers 5th Gen 4-16x50AO Rifle Scope. This is the Niro conversion and i can not be happier with my choice. Well made and well balanced. It is a heavy gun but i expected that and believe it will improve once it has had a couple of hundred shots through it to even higher accuracy. It takes considerable force to cock so your arm and shoulder does get a serious workout even after 50 rounds. One great product so far, well worth the priceBy Bahman from USA on 2011-09-25 14:38:48
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Things I would have changed:I have not yet adjusted the trigger which feels a little tight and hesitant but that is a personal preference. There is room for adjustment and i expect i can get that tuned to a point that suites my style. for me it works best with the Benjamin .25 Cal, 27.8 Grains, Domed ammo though i plan to use some of the H&N Baracuda .25 Cal, 31.02 Grains, Round Nose after i have had 200 shots through it to see if the heavier weight makes a difference to the grouping.
What others should know:If you are looking for .25 this is an absolute beast and great value for money
Things I liked:Appears well made.The noise is much less than my previous spring rifle.By Customer from USA on 2011-09-04 09:30:23
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Things I would have changed:Take some weight out of it. The safety is the reverse of most rifles, confusing for a time and it will probably carry over to my big game rifles.
What others should know:This is rifle is not for the weak armed person. Cocking with one arm will wear you out fast. Two arms not so bad.Though new, the accuracy is just OK. Certainly not a one hole shooter so far.
Things I liked:This gun has a lot of power and is very accurate. At 35 yards with a leapers 3-9x40 scope and resting the gun I am grouping shots a quarter will cover.The gun is well made and very solid.By Greg from USA on 2011-08-09 08:39:34
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Things I would have changed:The scope mounting rail could be set back a little more.
What others should know:The gun is long and heavy and it takes some effort to cock it. The gun hits hard and on target. I have the .177caliber and use 10.65 -gr pellets. It shoots fine with lighter pellets but seems to be better with a larger grain. If you are looking for power this is the gun to get.- 1234
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Overall rating:5 5.0
Value for money:5 5.0
Accuracy:5 5.0
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Things I would have changed:Nothing at this point
What others should know:In my opinion,One place that Crosman is screwing up is putting out their Nitro pistons without any iron sights. On Spring pistons of this power range scopes have a tendency to malfunction unless very good. I don't plan to put a scope on this beast until I get about 500 to 1000 rounds through. I bought the Jumbo Monster diablos(26.39 gr.) to help with this and was surprised with the accuracy and fairly straight shooting in my backyard.