Page 4 - Hatsan Model 25 Supercharger QE Reviews

The trigger out of the box. The weight. The accuracy

I added the Crossman stock, offset scope mount and a bug buster scope. Also added a sks cheek riser to get a nice weld. But really, the gun is great stock.

This gun in the carbine I created is very accurate at the limits of my yard...approx. 45 yards. Its very light and loves the 11 grain .22 hobbies. I use this gun as much as possible and intend to take it on vacations as its very compact and easy to transport. Also, its not hard to cock at all. Hold the barrel extension in your left hand and the grip in your right. Brace your left hand against your left inner thigh. Press down with your right hand and in with you left thigh. Almost no effort. My 10 year old can do it easily.

The rubberized grips with the thumb-rest...very comfortable, kinda feels like that old favorite baseball glove! Gold trigger... snazzy aesthetic touch, and the trigger itself is very user friendly. Though it's adjustable, I like it just as it is out of the box. (This coming from someone who has had to get use to Crosman, Benjamin and Beeman RS2 triggers! Trust, the Hatsan Quatro is a much nicer trigger!) I like that the muzzle-break/cocking assist actually screws on and becomes an integral part of the barrel. The feel of the anti-recoil system takes a little getting use to, but before long, you won't even give it a second thought. The adjustable (rear AND front) fiber optic sights are very good. I initially mounted a dot scope on the dovetail, but due to the top half recoil (almost like a very short travel blow-back!), the scope wouldn't stay put, so I removed it and now just shoot with the open sights. The gun is extremely, and consistently, accurate out to twenty yards; and it ain't bad at thirty! Having launched ~2000+ pellets from this behemoth of a pistol, I've gotten a good feel for the gun; it cooperates nicely. There's a great deal of satisfaction in knowing when you pull the trigger, it's a safe bet that you'll hit the mark. This gun does just that...and with AMPLE power! (I've already worn out a couple of 3/4" plywood backstops and moved up to carpeted steel on plywood to get more longevity from the backstop.)

Were I to suggest any changes to the gun, I'd add provisions for a scope stop...if not a weaver rail. If Hatsan decided to make the gun a 22 incher by adding an extra inch to the muzzle-break/cocking assist, I think it'd fly and would give just a hint more leverage for cocking...it may also lessen the likelihood of boogering up the front fiber optic...which hasn't happened yet, but worth staying mindful of. Otherwise, the gun seems well engineered and manufactured.

The cocking effort on this gun, as others have stated, is pretty stout, but well worth the effort for the power it creates. It isn't unbearable by any means. I've had some three & four hour shooting sessions, one shot after another, with no problem. And yes, it is also heavy...but again, well worth it. The automatic safety is a great feature, but as others have mentioned, the mechanism is a bit rough...'scratchy' feeling...not smooth? I suspect one of these years it may smooth out, but mine hasn't yet. If it doesn't, oh well, it serves the purpose. The breech is VERY snug! I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but, it is what it is. Crosman Domes are the tightest fitting, but they do fit. I also deep seat each pellet with no problem. In a few reviews, there has been mention of sketchy quality control, but I've not seen anything on this one to indicate that. So, if you want a reasonably priced pistol that ranks right up there with a barrel of monkeys in terms of being fun; a handsome power house of a gun that is consistent and reliable with many very nice features, though, rather simplistic in design...well then, you want a Hatsan Model 25 Supercharger! I'm extremely satisfied with mine. (...and as always, the service at Pyramyd Air is second to none...that crew ROCKS!)

I love this pistol. Nice triger group. Very accurate. Feels great in the hand. I would recomend this pistol.

Add a longer compensator. About 5 inches.

Bad Arse and Dangerous Weapon. Not for your average youngster.

All the reviews I read before purchasing this pistol were dead on. Having fired a Diana ($259.00) before this one I can attest to how wonderful the Hatsan 25 is. I've installed an inexpensive AMP Tactical 30mm red/green ($30.00) dot sight on mine. After dialing the scope in I'm hitting 1" spinning targets just about every time at 10 yards and I'm "in the red" center of paper targets at 25 yards. This pistol is accurate. I've kept the cocking assist screwed in. This is very neat! No messing around with putting it on and taking it off. You'll need the assist. Cocking the weapon with the assist isn't a problem. Cocking the weapon without the assist ... well ... forget about it. Put it this way, the Diana has a cocking pressure of 19 lbs. The Hatsen without the assist is about 50 lbs. The Hatsen with the assist screwed on (which looks good screwed on, by the way) takes about the same cocking pressure as the Diana.

The trigger pull. Adjusted to the lightest setting it's still a little heavy for my taste. Yet, the trigger pull is definitely similar to other pellet pistols I've shot.

Great deal for the money. The Hatsen 25 + a AMP Tactical 30mm red/green scope + the $10 fitting rail + pellets + a pellet pen holder + silicone lube for about $200.00! You can't beat this deal and, more importantly, you will not be selling yourself short.

The pistol just feels right and is fun to shoot. Its more fun the most rifles.

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Gun is very accurate and good power with 11.9 gr rws hobbies. I use an offset mount with a bugbuster scope and the 1377 Crossman stock. The sides of the pistol grip attack with 2 screws each. Remove these and the stock slips on and attaches with 2 screws. The forward top 1/2 inch lip of stock can be dremeled off for perfect fit. No more to gun required.

I like the idea of having a pistol that will shoot around 700fps and the recoil built in is nice.

providing a "slip-on" extension instead of a screw-on extension to make it easier to cock.

I like the adjustible sights - front and back but then again, this is my first air pistol... i like it.

Unbelievable accuracy, right out of the box. Powerful!

It's difficult to cock, but...

At ten meters I have groupings inside of a 1.5" circle often, sometimes putting one in the previous hole. At that distance, I have found Gamo Magnum 7.56 gr. and Beeman Hollow Point Coated .177 Pellets to be very accurate. Beyond that range, I use Beeman Kodiak 10.65 gr.. I have had no problems hitting hanging aluminum cans at 35 yards using that round. I really like this pistol, more than I can convey.

The trigger and accurate right out of the box.

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great pistol for the money. many accessories can be added to this gun.

I like everything about this pistol.

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Great pistol for the money!

Excellent sights, easily adjustable, stay where I set them, best I've seen on pretty much anything. Better than many centerfire aftermarket sights. Lots of power, punches through both sides of a tin can in .22 caliber. Makes my little hanging pipe targets ding nicely. Seems very accurate, the trigger is the big limiting factor.

Honestly, the trigger is pretty bad. Supposedly adjustable, I cannot feel any significant changes in the pull weight. Travel adjustment does a little, actually seems to increase the pull weight. Lots of creep, and gritty. I've lubed it in the gun and it helped. Only about 100 shots through it, things should smooth out down the road. One of these days I'll take it out and see what can be polished.

I was looking for an air pistol powerful enough to take out starlings and this fits the bill. Sufficiently accurate, with power to spare and the ranges I'll be shooting at. It is basically a shortened air rifle. My wife cannot cock it, I have no real problems. Getting the pellets started is difficult, its a tight fit. A two handed proposition due to its weight, the trigger pull, and the spring recoil. I like the pistol, it feels like it will last. I've spent more and gotten less.

This pistol looks better in hand than in the pictures. The bluing is of good quality and the rubber grips and plastic frame are solid and look great. I like the trigger, it is consistent and really great for what you are paying for in this gun.

My one complaint is the sights. Its great they are so adjustable but the blade up front is just too big. The tru glo is nice in low light but I am just used to smaller iron sights. I feel they would be more accurate for me personally and wish they were optional or available aftermarket.

After reading reviews I thought the cocking force would be very hard before I received the gun. Its really not too bad, its just slightly harder to cock than my BSA Supersport with the cocking aid on. I got the 10 for 10 test just to know how many FPS it was shooting. Started at 532FPS and gradually came down to 511FPS at shot 10. This was with RWS Hobby 11.9gr pellets. Not sure what it is after 500+ shots. RWS Superdome 14.5gr and JBS Exact jumbo heavy 18.3gr pellets both shoot accurately. I have a UTG subcompact red/green dot sight on the way. I think this pistol will be great with the dot sight instead of the stock sights.

heft, balance, look, feel, trigger, power.

make threaded barrel extender 1 to 2 inches longer. Add some kind of pellet clip system.

It's not a challenge to cock this gun, just turn it sideways and squeeze like those coil chest exercisers. Also, I'm not sure why one person said that the trigger safety is "rough." I found it very easy to slide it forward with my trigger finger, smooth, kind of cool really. The gun is powerful, and addictive to shoot

First and foremost, this gun is a very good value. Despite a modest price point, it is strong and accurate right out of the box. From the first shot, this gun hit the spot it was aimed at.

As many have noted, the power of this gun comes at a cost. This is not a easy gun to cock. I have not yet tried the extension, but in its stock configuration it takes real effort for each shot. I do worry that I will eventually displace/damage the front sight while cocking this gun. Separately, the safety on this gun serves its purpose, but does not provide a clear visual indicator of status. As I sometimes, cock/load my airguns for other shooters , this is not ideal.

This is a very different gun than the similarly styled RWS LP8 (which I purchased first). At a materially lower price, the Hatsan Model 25 provides great accuracy and better power. However, the more expensive RWS is more refined, better finished, and easier to shoot again and again. If I could only have one of them... it's a tough call. For the money, the Hatsan 25 is darn good.

I like the power and accuracy for the price. The steel parts have a pretty good finish and the plastic grips and plastic frame look better in person than in the pictures. The pistol seems to be accurate and cocking effort with the extension is really not that bad at all. Other reviews indicated differently. I dont work out and have a desk job. Im in average physical shape and could shoot this gun all day without getting tired of cocking it. I think it is a great value. Power and accuracy for a lot less than comparably powered springer pistols.

The sights are just ok.. I had to move the front sight up almost all the way and the rear pretty much all the way down to get it sighted in at 10 yards. Had the front sight not been adjustable, I never would have gotten the gun sighted in. Also, im used to steel sights that have a smaller front blade and smaller notch on the rear. When shooting at a 4" round target from 15 yards, the front blade completely covers the target. Its kind of hard to completely judge the accuracy with the stock sights. I plan on getting a red dot scope, i think that would be a big improvement. I was shooting at cans out to 40 yards and was hitting them, and hitting close when missing. I think this gun will be very accurate once I upgrade the sights with a red dot. The original sights are easy to see in low light conditions, thats the only thing I do like about them.

I have the .22 cal version. I ordered the 10 for 10 so I would have a chrony sheet. The gun averaged 520 fps with a relatively light pellet (cant remember how many grains, paper is not with me now). I was expecting closer to 600 fps. I like to shoot heavier pellets than what was used for the 10 for 10 so Im sure the speed is even slower than that. If I would have known the speed was going to be 500 fps, i may have considered other pistols, I wanted this because it had more power that anything else at the stated 600 fps in .22 cal. There were a lot of guns I didnt consider just for this fact and had I known, I would have looked at some other pistols in more depth before making my final decision on what to buy. That being said, Im still very happy with the purchase. For the price this gun is great. Im going to also make a stock for this pistol, it would make a great carbine as stated in another review.

amazing power,good trigger,smooth firing behavior

front sight is too wide,rear is too narrow

I recently praised the Browning 800-everything I said goes for this gun X3! Mine is .22 caliber-I've never shot a spring pistol in this caliber that shot so flat-it hits an object at 30 yards like right now! The trigger is also quite good & after around 100 shots or so the gun quieted down & the firing behavior became quite smooth-especially for a gun of this power. I like the screw-on metal cocking aid much better than a slip on plastic one-it looks good & you don't have to worry about it moving around or falling off & getting lost.Besides the smooth action & good trigger,fit & finish are also quite good-The Turkish craftsmen obviously take their job seriously.It is a bit hard to cock but this is expected given the power. Anyone who is used to cocking springers shouldn't find it objectionable.Only two negatives-on mine the breech is very tight-I tried silver bears first since I have found them to usually be the most accurate in pistols in .22 cal-I could barely get them to go in. The same for premiers & Napier power hunters. JSB exacts fit pretty well & thats what I've been using. Will need to lap the edges of the opening slightly. I also don't care for the sights-The rear notch is too narrow for the thick front blade-it makes it difficult to take a fine bead on small targets.Perhaps Pyramyd could encourage Hatsan to correct this & maybe offer the choice of black sights in addition to fiber optic. All in all this is a fine gun well worth twice it's asking price.

I liked the feel. The grip is large and comfortable.

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I've had trouble with this gun from the beginning. The trigger is terrible and I believe that the barrel was bent. Now the safety does not work and sounds like it is lose. Also, sometimes the gun cocks and sometimes it does not. I contacted Hatsan Service department and received the following: “If it's determined that your issues were caused by something other than manufacture's defect, i.e. user error, tampering, abuse, etc., we'll contact you with a cost of the repair and return shipping before we do any work.” You have to pay for shipping the gun to them, and then pay the return shipping from them to you. It seems like Hatsan has everything covered especially user error. User error could be anything they want it to be. Their warranty sounds all inclusive to me, but in their favor not mine. I did not tamper with this pistol but I’m not putting any more money into this piece of you know what. While waiting for Hatsan to return my emails (one email was not answered, the second took another week) I bought a RWS Diana LP8 and absolutely love it. Do yourself a favor, pay the extra money and buy the LP8. Pyramyd Air has been great, timely help and sympathy but their hands are tied.

This is my second I have its big brother the .22. Points great well built and deadly accurate. Again adjust the trigger otherwise it is to heavy adjusts nicely. The cocking effort is heavy at 58 lbs. But really does cock well with the assist in place.

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All Hatsans have a tight chamber pistols and rifles so do not try crossman pellets they are so erratic in size that over half of them will not fit. Only pellet I have had this problem with. Want a powerhouse that is accurate this is it. Built to last. Enjoy.

Accurate, very well-balanced, and plenty of power.

I don't know if it is possible, but maybe a nitro-piston power-plant would help in the cocking.

At first I couldn't decide between the Hatsan or the similar Browning pistol. I'm glad I went with Hatsan. They don't "fluff" on their specs. But be fore-warned, this pistol takes a great amount of effort to cock. The reward is that it very powerful. No question that this is not a toy!

This gun is really powerful and accurate! The pellet will go through an soda can in 30 yards easily! Knocking down the birds or squirrels, or even a rabbit is not a hard job for this gun :) it looks so handsome and really fit on your hand! Very quiet for shooting in the back yard.

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At first, cocking this gun is kind of hard; however, if we shoot more than 100 rounds, it's going to be more easier, don't worry about that. :)

Accuracy is outstanding.Sights are great.Very quiet

Safety is rough but that's not an issue.

I sighted it in at 25 feet in my house. We took it to the range and it was dead on at 35 yards. We shot it 200 times. The only way we could miss is if we tried. I recommend this pistol with an 9 out of 10 just because the safety is rough. Otherwise it is GREAT. I am getting 2 more for my shooting friends that really liked it and had never shot one before.