Page 26 - Beeman P17 Reviews

price, weight, feel, power, accuracy

scope mount is a little weak, gotta be gentle. top hurts the hands when pressing down to cock gun (sharp edges) design leaves you changing o-rings, maybe 'shimming' the o-rings, smoothing the rough edges, etc., so it's a gun you should plan on taking apart and 'tuning' a little bit. it's not hard to do, requires minimal knowledge and tools, and much info available just by googling 'p17 airgun'

it can lose pressure, etc., and require some work. pyramyd will gladly exchange it, but that's a pain for all concerned, however if you're not a 'repair person,' then that's your good option. also, if you take the gun apart and modify it in any way, then it's not really in warranty any more. if you want a perfect one, buy the (expensive) p-30, but if you like the idea of making a really cheap gun work well, get this one and be ready to do a little tweaking. the box of o-rings from harbor freight tools has several that fit this gun.

Looks good, feels good, nice trigger (adjustable) easy to hold (i have small hands) easy to shoot offhand, good 'iron' sights (adjustable) has a rail for scope or red-dot sight. pretty quiet, absolutely the best price for anything even remotely calling itself an air pistol.

Just a little more attention to the o-rings used in manufacturing, and the design of the parts made to hold the o-rings (they need a little shimming). I put black 'gaffer' tape over the sharp edges of the rail to save my hand while cocking this. children will not be able to cock this gun.

many people have had problems with this gun losing pressure, leaking, etc. the fixes are remarkable simple (i'm no airgun mechanic and i took care of mine just fine with a few very simple tools. lots of blogs online with complete instructions, diagrams - look for one by 'derrick.' it's not a perfect gun, but if it has problems, you can either return it or fix it yourself. very easy. I love mine and even though it falied (leaked) two different times in the first 1000 pellets, it was easy to fix and i wouldn't give it up for twice the price. If you're not a tinkerer, buy the German-made version (the Beeman P3) for about six times the price.

Lightweight, great feel in the hand, extremely accurate!!!, good power, super simple to service, excellent trigger, auto safety, unbelievable price, good with a variety of ammo, 11mm rail, pretty good sights, recoilless, inner frame is metal at all important points... This is a keeper and a super value. I consider this pistol perhaps the BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK among airguns. I rarely write reviews, but I had to stop and write this one due to the super value!

The plastic used seems like it might be a little different than the p3 or hw40, but it's holding up fine. Original o-rings are low quality, or just compressed/aged from storage. You will probably need to recondition(soak in silicone oil)/replace them sooner than later. However these o-rings are very cheap and easy to find at any hardware store, and the repair is easy enough for anyone. Drift one pin out, no special tools needed, to take it all apart. When you do it, you realize just how easy this gun is to maintain forever. A super bargain.

Use lighter pistol pellets for best results at longer ranges. Shoots just under/about 400fps, so they drop off as range increases. Uses a variety of pellets accurately. I was shooting RWS Hobbys, RWS R-10 pistol, 5.4 gr Hyper Velocity (strings in rifling), Superdomes, Beeman Lasers, and others...all with excellent results. You will be amazed at the accuracy and sweet trigger! Under 1" groups at 15 yards easy freehand. Put a little locktite/threadlocker on the sight screws to keep them from moving while cocking and carrying. Use a light coat of silicone oil (chamber oil type), silicone grease, or lithium grease on the tube once in a while and when servicing. Get a few thicknesses of o-ring and find the one that fits just right so its not too hard to cock, nor underpowered. You can also shim the o-ring with plumbers tape if you like. Thicker=little more power/harder to compress. Replace the small breech o-ring too for an even better seal if you like (easy). If you want a P3 or Weihrauch HW40 but find them a little expensive for your budget then this is the way to go. You wont be disappointed. It's almost the same in every way...except the o-rings might need an initial change or reconditioning (soak them in silicone oil etc). Everything else is just about the same. German engineering and super accuracy. If youre a collector or want perfection and have the extra money to spend, then go with the Weihrauch hw40, or hw75. This p17 is a gun you wont fuss over, and will last 4ever.

Trigger, sights, accuracy, price, price, price... Not that sighting in a new pistol is that big of a deal, but somehow this thing showed up with it's sights already set. We began shooting GatorAid bottle caps at 20' right out of the box.

I wish the manufacturer cared half as much about their customers as Pyramyd Air does. Don't bother wasting your time attempting to contact Beeman / Marksman for any information regading this pistol, they won't return your phone calls or e-mails. They're pretty much worthless when it comes to customer service. Pyramyd Air's employees however are extremely helpful & knowledgeable.

This has got to be the best deal in air pistols out there. This is the third one I've bought in the last 3 years (all 3 have been gifts for other people) & it appears the quality is improving.

El peso es ideal y da la sensacion de ser de metal

Es un poco dificil insertar el pellet

Tiene gran potencia para ser una pistola pero necesita un buen esfuerzo para cargarla

Adjustable rear sight and very good trigger release. High velocity in a single pump pistol. Super accurate. What else could be expected from a pistol in this price range ?

Nothing.

A great buy. You won't find any other gun in this price range loaded with so many features.

I bought two of these so we could have family matches while camping or picnicking or just sitting on the patio. They are accurate and fun. Will put 'em in the same hole @ twenty feet all day long. Pop cans at thirty yards not a problem. They are inexpensive and easy to replace o rings if needed. I did with one, not the other yet but haven't shot it much yet.

Put a white dot of enamel or something on the front sight so you can see it.

It you start missing low, pull the rear sight back up. It gets pushed down when you close it and sometimes doesn't pop all the way back up.

Accuracy !!. Straight out of the box. I shot six shots @ 50 yrds in a 2" circle WITHOUT the scope and no sdjustments to the sights, fairly quiet, can be shot inside without disturbing the neighbors

I think an amidexterous saftey would have been a plus, and it's just a touch too much for my daughter to pugh the pump back down other than the battery being dead for the reddot (not really a problem-easy to find cr2030 lithium is popular)...besides that its a very well built pistol, similar to a Glock 17. shoots well right out of the package, I'm sure with a little tweaking on the red dot, I was Highly impressed !

It's kinda tough to pump for a younger child, but I do like that it was a single shot...makes you be a little more careful about aiming to do well, instead of the "spray and pray" like some of the CO2 multi shot + the power is the same every time unlike charge loss of a CO2.

* Solid, I've dropped it multiple times and it is still accurate and only slightly scuffed, no real damage * very well contoured grip * surface finish is good, it doesn't have any checkering or significant reeding to collect dirt. Easy to keep clean and good looking * price! * very durable, I've pumped at least 2500 rounds through mine so far, will probably be up past 3000 by next week

* rear sight adjustment mechanism, as others noted. * the pivot pin for the pump lever likes to slide out the side slightly after a few hundred shots. Should be retained a little better.

Great introductory air pistol, I would buy it again in an instant.

Powerful, strongly made shell, nice trigger, satisfying overall in feel, hackable to some extent.

I've already cut a secondary 'backup' O-ring seat in the main compressor piston, as per the anotherairgunblog posting on this gun. Time to go O-ring shopping. That, and a couple of other O-ring related changes and general cleaning and proper lubrication should make this quite a reliable pistol. I've filled the area behind the barrel with metal-filled epoxy putty to make a better 'funnel' shape, considerably improving loading ease. Got to be careful there to leave room for the breach block, but that's not too hard. Also polished the ends of the barrel and slightly counter-sunk, at the front for kicks, but at the rear to extend O-ring life and improve the seal. Adjusting the barrel position relative to the breach seal is easy enough, through trial and error, and does wonders for that fit.

For a tinkerer/hacker this is a lot of fun, as the basic quality is sufficient as a platform to work from and the price low enough that there's little at risk. It's a big pistol, kind of a handful even in my large hands, but workable. Accuracy isn't all that, but usable enough at short range. Loud pop, but hey, there isn't a spring piston version in this price range. I'd suggest reading all the blog postings with pictures about the P-17 on anotherairgunblog - loads to be gleaned there.

This pistol has a solid feel to it. The pumping action is ok, but make sure you don't don't the rear sight when pumping. The nut inside holding the position of the rear sight sometimes gets out of place.

Make the trigger set screw adjustable without having to take the gun apart. Use a locking nut for the rear sight.

At first, my gun was flaky on firing. Sometimes it would fire, and sometimes it wouldn't. I fixed this by remaking the trigger set screw. I wouldn't recommend this gun for a person who just wants to shoot without taking some time to smith up this gun. You have to take care of it, and modify it a bit before it is really rugged. Once you do though (such as nylock nut on rear sight, adjust trigger set screw, polish up some rods inside, etc.) this performs like a dream.

Accuracy

Reliability

Not a reliable gun. Died after 150 Shots

For the price, an excellent gun. After 200 rounds, no seal leak problems, no pin creep problems. Feels like a real gun in terms of balance and grip. Mostly plastic but of good quality. Nice power for a one pump (400fps +). Accuracy quite good. Adjustable rear sight for both dimensions. Still can't believe what you get for under 40 bucks - waiting for the downside but potentially disposable if something wears out at this price. Nice trigger feel for an inexpensive gun.

Fake hammer latch looks like it will be the first thing to wear out. Smaller front sight width would be nice for target. (No daylight on either side of front post in sight picture.)

Hard to pump. Average kid won't be able to do it. Be careful of sharp edges of sight when doing so to avoid cuts or pinches. Takes almost 30 lbs of pressure to do the single pump. A little tricky for loading the pellet if you have big fingers. Medium quiet.

Solid feel, weight, trigger and design of the gun.

The people that put the gun together.

These guns are well worth the money if you can work on them a little bit. The first thing I did was put some Teflon tape on the screw which holds the sight in place to keep it from creeping. Also I took the O-ring out where the barrel meets the air chamber and made a gasket out of typing paper the same size as the O-ring. Then I put it in place then I put the O-ring back in. Also the barrel can be loosened up and slid forward to help tighten up the O-ring. The pins in the gun have a problem of wanting to come out so I have put some set screws where there are holes all ready drilled out. Be careful if you do this the set screws have to be tiny. On the air chamber it self there is a set screw on the end of piston shaft. Before you pull the piston mark it so it goes in the same way it came out. Loosen the set screw and slide the pin out now the piston is ready to come out. Once the piston is out clean it up and take the O-ring off and clean out the grove. Next clean out the shaft. Once everything is cleaned out I take Valvoline sae 30 moter oil dip my in it and oil the shaft, it takes very little oil to do this, Then with the piston I will lube the grove and put the O-ring back on giving it a twist, then lightly lube the piston and slide it back in the same way it came out. Now you are in business. It is easy to pull the piston to clean so I will do this every 1500 pellets. A good hardware store sells the O-rings. I hope this helps some of you out Since I have done these things I have shot several thousand pellets through the gun with out any problem. The gun will blow your mind when you see how accurate it is. Go to the blog on the P 3 to get more info.

Solidly built,nicely priced,no need for c02 cartridges.

Easier loading.

Look, feel, trigger, accuracy, price.

The o ring at the tip of the valve buried deep inside. This was the source of the leaks in both of my guns.

If you can work on things, these are a great bargain. If not, avoid the hassles. Both of mine leaked within a couple of hundred rounds. I replaced the valve o ring with a no. 006 and the pump o ring with a 116 and both guns have been happy since. Trigger problems seem to be caused by the springs inside the grip together with burrs on parts in there that can actually cut through the springs. Again, if you don't like working on mechanical stuff, avoid this gun!!

This gun flat out feels good in my hand. I like the heft and solid feel of the gun. Works great with a red dot scope (don't buy the Beeman red dot package deal, that scope is horrible, I replaced it day 1)

I would like to Beeman, or whoever actually owns the Beeman name these days, to take a little interest in quality control. I bought 2 of these 3 weeks ago. 1 is on the way back for a MAJOR air leak and intermittent trigger problem (like not firing the gun properly)! The other was supposed to be my fathers but I started shooting it 2 days ago to make sure it was okay.... Guess what..... Major air leak after only ~ 150 shots.

I like this gun. I'm thinking of keeping the 2nd one and learning to work on it myself. I can live with a $50 loss but I SHOULDN"T HAVE TOO. If you but this gun and have ANY issues - make sure your retailer or the manufacturer know about it. It's up the the consumer to make sure that folks know we want quality products. I've been shooting a crappy CO2 pistols for 15 years. I need to shoot at 6 inch targets instead of half inchers, but the gun still WORKS.

Accuracy, nice trigger, easy to shoot, good power for a pistol (400fps with 7.9gr Crosman Premiers).

Do something to lock the pins in place, some of them tend to start working their way out.

I have the Marksman 2004, which is what the gun was called before it was rebadged as the Beeman P17. It is a bit hard to cock and loading a pellet can be a bit tricky, but the gun shoots so well for under $50 that I cannot give it anything less than top marks.

Fantastic accuracy. Put the airgun in a vice and sighted in the red dot. 1 inch grouping at 50 yards. Lightweight and very comfortable to hold. Ambidextrous grip is quite handy when shooting with others. FAST reload time. No need for multiple pumps makes it quite a pleasure to shoot.

A little bulky and look out when cocking it. You could get pinched. A bit tricky to load the pellets, but it becomes very easy once your used to it. I do not like the auto safety. I find it to be more of a nuisance than a help, but I have never had a misfire so that says something. Also, there were tiny burrs on the plastic, but nothing a minute or two with a razor blade couldn't fix.

Crossman pellets are not that great for this gun. I find that my grouping expands three to four times when I use them. RWS pellets are preferred. They slide in easy and are very accurate. Wadcutters are kind of a hassle to load, so pointed pellets are better for this gun. Overall I would say this is one of the best air cheap air pistols I have seen. A real joy to shoot.

Light weight and balance. Good trigger. Direct, into chamber, loading. Solid feel. Reasonable accuracy most of the time. See "Things I would change."

1. Air charge is somewhat inconsistent, leading to poor accuracy in some shots. 2. Cocking effort is heavy.

1. This came with the Beeman label instead of Marksman. Same gun. 2. Maintenance information - especially in regard to lubrication - was inadequate.