Wednesday, June 04, 2008

Walther Lever Action - Part 1

by B.B. Pelletier

Last week someone asked if I would report on this rifle. I thought I had already, but a search turned up nothing. If ever a CO2 rifle deserved a report, this one does. Today, I'll begin to correct that situation.

When I first heard about the Walther Lever Action, I knew it would be a good one. Made from all wood and metal with American-penny accuracy at 20 yards and 8 fast shots with the flick of a finger lever, what's not to like?

I saw the first rifle just as I was starting the premiere issue of Airgun Illustrated magazine, so naturally it became a feature article. The rifle delivered on all its promises and then some. The accuracy was wonderful, the lever worked easily, the trigger was a good two-stage trigger - a little heavy on stage two, but crisp, nonetheless.

A good copy
The Walther Lever Action is a copy of Winchester's model 1894 rifle. Just like the Winchester, the top cover of the action slides backwards when the lever goes forward. That pushes the hammer back into lockup with the sear, and the hammer that's visible is what actually fires the gun. However, you can't thumb the hammer back to near-sear lockup and let it go to exhaust the gas. The way this rifle is designed, the trigger must be positively pulled for the gun to fire.


When the finger lever goes forward, the rifle is cocked and loaded.



The top action cover (which would be the bolt in the firearm) slides back with the lever to cock the hammer. Round button is the crossbolt safety.


One additional comment about the action. If you've never owned a Winchester 1894, you may not know that you have to pull the finger lever up with the firing hand while you squeeze the trigger, otherwise the sear won't release the hammer. This mechanism is called the trigger stop mechanism, and it's there to ensure that the action is fully locked before the gun can fire. The Walther Lever Action does not have this feature, so it's a little easier and faster to fire than the Winchester.

Safety
The Walther has a crossbolt safety that's very similar to the one used in some of the Winchesters. It works well, plus it allows dry-firing without gas loss.

The carbine
When the Walther was initially offered, it was as a rifle and a carbine they called the Lever Action Short. They also offered rifle combos with either a scope or a red dot. The carbine was the first one to hit the U.S., so Walther had it shipped to me for the review. As a consequence, I never reviewed the rifle, though the difference between the two is simply a matter of barrel length. In a CO2 rifle, however, barrel length can make a difference in velocity, so when I test my carbine for you, we'll see how close it is to the full rifle. It won't matter much, though, because the carbine has been discontinued for over a year.

Wells Fargo
The other model you can still buy is the Wells Fargo. It came out a year after the rifle was launched, and I don't know how much longer it will be around. It has an engraved brass-plated receiver and darker wood for an attractive western look reminiscent of the 1866 Yellowboy Winchester.


Wells Fargo model is stylishly western.


CO2
Walther really produced a strange CO2 holder for this rifle. It's a removable tray that holds two powerlets completely out of sight when closed. The opening catch is in the buttplate and hidden from general sight. Speaking of CO2, I've kept my carbine charged for three years now, so don't tell me how CO2 guns leak. If you'll just use Crosman Pellgunoil on each new CO2 cartridge, you'll have the same kind of experience.


CO2 is housed in this removable mechanism. It takes two cartridges to power this gun.


Loading
This rifle accepts standard 8-shot Umarex clips, so lay in spares when you buy the gun. This also means you can use the Air Venturi speedloader to fill the clips. To access a clip for loading, press in on what looks like the cartridge-loading port on the right side of the action.


Press in on the cartridge-loading port and the magazine holder pops out.


What we have is a very realistic .177 caliber, 8-shot repeating rifle. It's quite realistic and a joy to operate. Next time, we'll see how fast she goes.

27 Comments:

At June 04, 2008 8:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

b.b.

This is a report I am glad to see. I have been eyeing this rifle for some time now and was wondering how well it shot. You will be counting the number of shots you get for one fill right?

I recieved my talonss last week and I must say what a gun! I am quite pleased so far and it looks like it will definately out shoot my ben 392. Is there a way to quiet the action when the gun fires?

Also I must say that pyramid air and their customer service people are AWESOME! When I received the package it rattled terribly and I new pellets had spilled. Upon opening the box 2000 jsb's to be exact were all over inside. I called pyramid and they are sending me 4 new boxes unquestioned and I didnt even have to rebox the mess and send it back.

Thanks jw

 
At June 04, 2008 8:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll echo JW's statement about having an eye on this one for a while. If you could let us know the noise level as well, that'd be great.

 
At June 04, 2008 8:46 AM, Anonymous Michael in Florida said...

BB,

When you said you had never blogged the Lever Action, I had a funny feeling that I had read a blog by you mentioning the Walther, and that's why I bought two of them over a year ago.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd304/haywire2/DSCN0480.jpg

Your blog appeared Jume 10, 2005.

(Friday, June 10, 2005
A hoot to shoot - the Walther Lever Action rifle!

By B.B. Pelletier.........)

You're absolutely right about the accuracy and the authenticity of these rifles. The look and feel will fool most who see them for the first time, with most people saying "Nice looking 30.30"

There is a tiny screw in the front of the CO2 mechanism (brass screw facing forward) that is said to adjust the power. I haven't folled with it since I lack a chrony to see the results of any adjustment. Perhaps one of your readers could shed further light on this subject.

Thank you for all that you do.

Kind Regards,
Michael in Florida

 
At June 04, 2008 8:50 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

JW and the other guy,

Okay, shot count and relative noise are important. I'll put both into the next report which will be on velocity.

I also left out the sights, which Ill cover then, as well.

JW, there are two different ways to further quiet a Talon SS. Airhog has a bloop tube that probably does more than anything else. It will be pricey, but give them a call. I have the one for the Condor, and I can now shoot in a crowded suburb without the neighbors knowing.

The other way is to fabricate your own insert. I made one for mine that cuts the sound by about 25 percent. I'm thinking the Airhog tube probably cuts it by 75 percent.

B.B.

 
At June 04, 2008 8:56 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Michael,

Thank you! For some reason, I couldn't find that early report.

But it was short and skimpy, so I'm glad I'm doing it again. Still, it's nice to know I can still remember a few things.

Thanks for the tip on the "power screw." I was unaware of its existence, but I'll now look into it.

B.B.

 
At June 04, 2008 12:32 PM, Anonymous wayne said...

Hi BB

I too am thinking about the walter for the Rifle Range rentals..please anyone comment on how long they last..I like the fixed barrel..having had problems with mendoza's break barrels being so accurate up to 3,000 shots, then developing loose barrels.

Anyone..which break barrels hold up for the long term? I am thinking about the rws94 right now...any comments anyone?

Wayne,
Ashland Air Rifle Range & Rentals

 
At June 04, 2008 1:17 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Wayne,

I don't know what kind of traffic you get, but I wouldn't recommend the Walther for long-term public use.

What you need is only sold in Germany. It's the Diana model 30, and made for long-term gallery use. It has two counters on the side for charging the shooter. They used to sell here, but the price rose to $1000 and they died in the 1990s.

If I were to recommend anything over the RWS 94 you have already picked, it would be an HW 30. It's made to last for millions of shots, so you'd probably be happy with it.

B.B.

 
At June 04, 2008 2:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

B.B.

I talked to you awhile back about some issues I was having with the Remington Summit. Your advice was great and it actually improved the accuracy of the gun alot (or the accuracy of the shooter I should say). Well I wond up returning the Summit and bought the Big Cat 1200 by Gamo. I must say, I am much more pleased with the rifle, it is a lot more accurate. I also put a CenterPoint 4-16x40 AO Scope on it and this thing really is doing well. So thanks for all your advice. Have you ever done a review on the Big Cat 1200? There are a ton of comments on it but I would be interested in a more "professional" look at the gun.

- Jonathan

 
At June 04, 2008 2:31 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Jonathan,

No, I haven't looked at the Big Cat 1200. I, too, have heard good things about it. Maybe I'll get to it.

B.B.

 
At June 04, 2008 3:00 PM, Anonymous Martin D. White said...

I enjoy reading your blogs and reviews on different guns. I would LOVE to read a review of the new Air Force Edge rifle. Is there a chance that you will be reviewing one of those any time soon?

 
At June 04, 2008 3:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wayne

I have owned a Gamo Shadow 1000 for almost three years and put 13,000 shots through it. The only thing I had to replace was the mainspring at 9,000 shots.

 
At June 04, 2008 3:06 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Martin,

I hope to review the Edge before anyone. I live just a few minutes from the factory. I'll also review the new rear sight soon.

B.B.

 
At June 04, 2008 4:52 PM, Anonymous Bruce said...

Hi B.B. A great looking rifle and am looking fwd to velocity figures. What is a bloop tube and would one work on a Benjamin Disco? If not would you be able to recommend something that would? A pop up sprinkler head with a little imagination does a wonderful job on the end of a 1077, but won't fit the Disco. Looking forward to the picture taking blog. Again thanks

 
At June 04, 2008 5:12 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Bruce,

Bloop tube is slang for a simple tube with no design technology inside. No baffles, etc. It would have an end cap.

I can make a silencer for a Discovery from a toilet paper roll and electrician's tape. Silencers are so easy to make. Just give the violent air some space in which to expand and lose energy.

B.B.

 
At June 04, 2008 6:27 PM, Blogger BobC said...

BB,

Been awhile since I last blogged. I have a couple Of questions.

What is the status of RWS mount you've been working?

Have you ever used the leapers mount base?
http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/accessory.pl?accessory_id=2298

I too read your review of the Walther Lever action from 2005 and enjoyed what you and "big bore addict: had to say.

Any thing on the baffled barrel for the Disco?

Havn't been bloggin, but I havn't stop readin.

BobC NJ

 
At June 04, 2008 6:39 PM, Blogger BobC said...

BB,

Thought of another Question.

Do you have any preference between the Super Streak and the Walther Falcon Hunter?

Have you shot any of the under levers from Hatsan regardless of who its made for.

Thanks again,

BobC NJ

 
At June 04, 2008 8:18 PM, Anonymous BG_Farmer said...

BB,

Nice report as usual. I feel like I ought to like 1894 and the AR clone, but I just never got a good feeling with Winchesters -- perhaps I was spooked by too many visits to the Winchester mystery house and museum.

 
At June 05, 2008 1:04 AM, Anonymous wayne said...

Thanks once again BB;

The tech people at Pyramyd say the rws94 has a good record just a slow seller (I can't see why), they think they can get me some still.. I will try to search out the Diana model 30..any leads any one?

If you mean the beeman hw30 at 625 fps..I already picked it, got 6 of them...super sweet little rifle, light, small, nice trigger, easy to cock, very sturdy and Pyramyd has got a great price on them at $215. I know you mentioned it as one of your choices for young people and old ones like me who like an accurate fun rifle that you can shoot all day, thats why I tried one and quickly bought 5 more. I think it is better than the rws schultz at 525 fps and a heavy trigger. (Just going off the specs. I have not got mine yet, will see when I get one.)
Mine hw30s are shooting 7.0 hobbys an average of 658 ( 28 fps higher than advertised) with a low of 641 and high of 669 on a 30 shot string.
The rws94 averages 1046 on hobbys (they advertise as 900fps and it does that with 10.6 baracudas)
On the other hand the Gamo CFX with the regular spring only does 827 (advertised at 1,000) with hobbys and 673 with 10.6 match baracudas. The Gas springs did much better and were a lot easier to cock, maybe 25 lbs., they shot the hobbys at 862 average and the baracudas at 723.
By the way the rws match 7.0 which cost twice as much as the hobbys shot at 90 less fps than the hobbys and 32 fps less than the rws 8.2 super point, they did well in all the rifles, fastest per weight ratio, and very accurate for me.
I like them in .22 also in the Discovey, they are faster for the weight their too, and much easier to load in the Discovery for my fat fingers. Sorry to blab on...

Thanks again everyone for feed back on long lasting rifles for the range.
p.s. all testing done at 2,800 elev.

Wayne,
Ashland Air Rifle Range & Rentals

 
At June 05, 2008 7:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Love the Walther Lever action. Just wish it was in .22cal, then I would buy one.

 
At June 05, 2008 7:18 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Bob C.,

The Leapers base you sent the link to is the base I developed for the RWS Diana rifles. It was supposed to be out in June, but now Leapers says July. My June Shotgun News column tells all about it.

The Discovery probably won't get a baffled barrel, but the next PCP from Crosman probably will be shrouded.

B.B.

 
At June 05, 2008 7:22 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Bob C.,

It's a tough call between the Super Streak and the Walther Falcon Hunter. Especially since I haven't completed testing of the Falcon Hunter yet.

The Super Streak is more refined and fits a much larger person, but the Falcon Hunter is the only .25 caliber on the market right now.

I've never seen an underlever from Hatsan, but I've seen a few from Kraal, another Turkish maker. They look like the CF-X, but are much rougher. They aren't ready for the market yet in my opinion.

B.B.

 
At June 05, 2008 7:24 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

BG_Farmer,

The Winchester Mystery House! I used to pass it every day, going to San Jose State.

B.B.

 
At June 05, 2008 2:45 PM, Anonymous BG_Farmer said...

BB,
We lived nearby for ~12 yrs. Used to go to Mystery House with out-of-town guests; the old lady Winchester was scary, but the place was kind of an oasis in modern times. You probably remember Joe's (I think they cooked on anthracite coal) and maybe even Roaring Camp, too. How about Half Moon Bay before development swamped it...people used to ask me why I liked to go there.

 
At June 05, 2008 3:16 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

BG_Farmer,

We moved there in 1963, and I stayed until I went into the Army in 1970. I worked at Frontier Village out on Monterey Highway for several years.

B.B.

 
At June 12, 2008 9:15 AM, Anonymous shootist said...

Talked to a person who tunes air guns. He said the new gas pistons were no good saying they don't last as long as a spring and tougher to cock. You seem to like them. I like the thought they are more accurate and can stay cocked while hunting. Your thoughts?

 
At June 12, 2008 1:09 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Shootist,

Sounds like trash-talk to me. I've not heard that gas spring had a short life. But they would put a lot of airgun tuners out of a job, wouldn't they?

B.B.

 
At July 14, 2008 3:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought one of those yellow boy guns for Xmas, leaked out the pellet loading port when firing. Sent it backed, it leaked, too. Sent it back. Wouldn't buy another.

It was the prettiest, sleekiest,best operatiing gun I ever had in my hands. Can't say enough good things about the looks, balance, etc. If the thing just wouldn't leak out the loading port.

 

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