Monday, June 06, 2005

B.B.'s Treasure Chest - The Daisy Avanti Champion Model 499

By B.B. Pelletier

Today is the longest day and shortest night of the year - in the Northern Hemisphere, at least.

Moms and dads - if you have children to train, this one's for you!

Daisy leads the world in BB gun training
In 1959, Daisy introduced their first specialized BB gun to support the shooter education program. The model 99 was a gravity-feed gun in the first year and held 850 shots. Then, the design was changed to a 50-shot forced-feed magazine similar to that found in a model 25 pump gun. Those gravity-feed variations command a small collector's premium today because of their scarcity.

The model 99 has an inexpensive peep sight that stays put by friction when adjusted. Some versions also had a cloth sling that was nearly worthless for any use.

Over the years, there were several configurations of the model 99, but they were all basically the same gun. Though it looked the part of a target rifle, it really wasn't, and coaches all around America clamored to Daisy for something better. In 1980, they got it - the 499. Known as "The world's most accurate BB gun," the 499 soon lived up to its name by revolutionizing BB gun accuracy.

It's a muzzleloading single-shot
The Daisy 499 is not a general purpose BB gun, despite how it looks. For starters, it's a single-shot that's loaded through the muzzle. One BB is dropped into the wide funnel-like muzzle to find its way down to the true barrel. The barrel is a precision tube, and it takes a BB several seconds to roll down because of the air it displaces as it goes. It hits the bottom with an audible click because of a magnetic shot seat.

After loading, the gun is cocked. This is when you notice the incredibly light effort needed to work the plastic lever. No BB gun ever cocked so easily! There IS a safety on the right side of the receiver. But to their credit, Daisy made it a manual type, so you aren't bothered by it. Safeties on target arms are next to useless, because safety on a formal range is ensured by the vigilance of the range officer and all shooters following range safety procedures.

It has peep sights for proper target training
If you're going to train your kids to shoot targets, do it right with peep sights. They're easier than open sights and almost as easy as scopes, which is why most armies have used them on their battle rifles for the past half-century and longer. All the shooter has to do is look through the rear aperture and center the bullseye in the front ring.

You'll be surprised by the accuracy!
The 499 is made for shooting at 5 meters, which is 16.4 feet. At that range, you should be able to shoot 10 shots into a group the size of a dime from the standing position. With practice, that group will shrink to the size of a pencil eraser.

Other stuff you need besides the gun
Always wear safety glasses when shooting anything, and especially a BB gun! Real targets are a must with this gun because the slow-moving BB will only tear a piece of copier paper. You'll never know where it went through. Finally, you need a good BB trap. I like Crosman's model 850 BB trap, which stands up to a lot of shots from a gun like the 499.

Don't forget BBs
You need ammo, and I recommend Daisy BBs to go with a Daisy gun. A box of 1,500 should last a long time.

A lot of fun for under $100
Although the 499 was developed for young shooters, plenty of oldsters shoot it, too. In fact, as long as you have a good trap to catch all those BBs, this is the nicest indoor airgun made. I think you'll be very surprised by the accuracy.

19 Comments:

At June 06, 2005 7:50 AM, Anonymous Denny said...

Ya just keep bringing back memories. I have one of these 499's. Mine has a fancier rear sight that may have been an extra cost option. If you have young kids or grandkids get one or more of these. An added bonus is, these are almost accurate enough for bug busting, out to 10-12 feet. Just don't shoot against hard backstops.

 
At June 06, 2005 6:14 PM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

Denny,

I'm glad to hear about your 499. Aren't they great?

I think the better rear sight might have been sold with the gun at some time in the recent past (10 years or so). I have an optional one, but for some reason, I seem to have the smaller one installed.

Great tip on bug busting. I never though of that!

B.B.

 
At June 07, 2005 5:17 AM, Blogger Joe in MD said...

I thought it was June 20/21 that we have the longest day/shorted night? Did somebody forget to reset the calendar?

 
At June 07, 2005 5:50 PM, Anonymous B.B. Pelletier said...

Oops!

B.B.

 
At May 05, 2007 1:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi BB,

I'd love to hear what the 499's accuracy opens up to when fired at 10m. Have you done this?

-Joe

 
At May 05, 2007 8:05 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Joe,

No I haven't.

B.B.

 
At May 18, 2007 9:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it at all possible to put on the 4x32 Mini AO Bug Buster Scope, Illuminated Red/Green Mil-Dot Reticle, Flip-Open Lens Covers? Even though it says that is is not made for it can it be made to fit one?

Rob E.

(for my brother)

 
At May 19, 2007 9:15 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Rob,

No. A thousand times, no!

The 499 is purpose-built as a 5 meter target gun. Putting a scope on it (if it were possible, which I cannot see how it could be done affordably) would be the equivalent of putting a trailer hitch on a Ferrari.

Buy the 499 to shoot with peep sights and definitely get the upgraded rear sight.

Tell your brother to look into the IZH 61 or a Beeman R7.

B.B.

 
At May 19, 2007 12:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I recomended those two already but you have to abmit the IZH 61 looks alittle...diffrent. I can try to convinse him to get the 61.

Rob E.

 
At December 28, 2007 10:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I used to have one of the old model 99's you mentioned. Then the bane of all grown men hit ... my mother ... she sold it while I was away. Is ther any place that I can get one again? I loved that old thing.

 
At December 29, 2007 10:36 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

99,

There are several BB gun dealers who can supply your needs. Larry Behling in New York is one. He's at

rte6larry@alltel.net

Another guy who probably has what you want is Jim Coplen. Jim is at

Jim Coplen, PO Box 7297, Rochester, MN. 55903 (507)281-2314

B.B.

 
At March 18, 2008 9:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder how much the
'better' rear sight would cost -- any model # available?

 
At March 19, 2008 7:46 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

Better sight,

The "better" rear sight costs $24.95. It's the Daisy 5899.

http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/accessory.pl?accessory_id=320

By better, I don't mean best. This sight is still mostly plastic. But it has easier-to-use adjustment knobs and if you get it adjusted correctly it will not wander.

I use this sight on my 499.

B.B.

 
At May 07, 2008 1:13 PM, Blogger sk73 said...

At age 61, I feel that life has come full circle in an important way. As a child in the 1950's, my friends and I had Daisy BB guns. We were terrors to the local bird population. As an adult, I graduated to firearms, both shooting and reloading. When my wife and I moved to a subdivision from the country, I acquired the taste for shooting a Daisy 747, a Beeman R7 and a S&W 586 in my backyard. I shoot paintballs off a golf tee. I've adjusted to cheaper ammo, not wearing hearing protection, and lack of recoil. Now, I have ordered a 499. Back to a BB gun. Life is now complete. I've been skeptical of how a BB gun could be very accurate, but I'll keep an open mind, at least for 5 yards.

I enjoy reading your blogs, BB.

 
At May 07, 2008 1:32 PM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

sk73,

I'm 60, and had the same upbringing as you.

I also shoot firearms, reload and cast bullets, but I shoot airguns a lot more because the opportunity is there.

B.B.

 
At May 19, 2008 9:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm in the same boat as all of you. I started with a Daisy Model 1894, graduated to louder guns, and came back to air guns. Why pay current prices for gasoline when you can go down to the basement?

I was just playing with my Model 99 (a garage sale find). The removable barrel/magazine is a great feature for firing lines with young shooters. All a range official has to do is see the barrel separate from the gun, and he/she knows the gun is disabled.

Now that I think of it, the 1894 wasn't really my first air gun. Remember those Daisy pop guns that were essentially a BB gun without the barrel? Find dad's pliers, remove the rivet across the muzzle, and you've got a dirt clod flinger.

Slavia

 
At May 24, 2008 10:59 PM, Blogger sk73 said...

I've had the 499 a couple of weeks now and I really enjoy it. It's a great gun for the backyard. It's extraordinarily accurate. You forget it's a BB gun. When I first got it, I disliked the trigger and the short stock. But either the trigger smoothed out or I adjusted to it, and I added a Limb Saver recoil pad which adds about an inch to the stock and that fixed that problem. The gun needs a recoil pad anyway because it slips off your shoulder. And it even helps the look.

 
At May 25, 2008 8:20 AM, Blogger B.B. Pelletier said...

sk43,

I will be posting an update on the 499, starting tomorrow.

B.B.

 
At August 30, 2008 10:46 AM, Anonymous Steve H. said...

Wonderful job as usual, B.B.!

FYI if you belong to a shooting organization you can call Daisy at 1-800-713-2479 and order a 499B for $80 plus shipping. Normally Daisy charges $179. They didn't even ask what shooting organization I belong to. Mine came with the better rear peep sight and extra inserts for the front, plus a sling (but no sling mounts....ah well).

Keep up the great work, B.B.!

 

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