Crosman M1 Carbine BB gun looks like its ancestor!
By B.B. Pelletier
Now here's an airgun you can really get used to! Not only does it resemble the real M1 Carbine very closely, it's also one of the most powerful spring-piston BB guns around.
Inspired by the real thing!
The M1 Carbine was a re-skinning of Crosman's successful model 350 BB repeater - so-named because that was the muzzle velocity. Careful attention was paid to make the M1 Carbine a close copy of the real thing.
The Crosman M1 Carbine is a realistic copy of the World War II carbine.
A springer in deep disguise!
For more than 20 years, I had assumed this BB gun was powered by CO2. First, because it was a Crosman, and they made so many CO2 guns at the time the M1 Carbine came out. The second reason was because I could not figure out how it could be cocked if it was a springer. At the time, I knew nothing about Quackenbush spring guns.
How it cocks
To cock the carbine, you grab the barrel and pull it back toward the receiver. Or, you can push the barrel back, but be careful not to put your hand in front of the muzzle when you do. This takes some real muscle, making the carbine a gun for older teenagers and adults, and even then not everyone will be able to cock it. The Daisy model 25 is somewhat hard to cock, but this gun is quite a bit harder.
Because a hand was on the barrel at the muzzle every time the gun was cocked, most M1 Carbines I've seen have well-worn finish in that area. Therefore, a gun with pristine finish should be worth a good premium.
The neatest thing
What looks like a magazine hanging down is actually a detachable box for carrying BBs. You have to remove them and load them into the gun or they'll just be ballast for your gun. More than half the carbines now in existence have lost their magazines, and an actual magazine is worth about as much as the gun, itself.
What looks like a magazine is
just a box for storing BBs.
The plastic lid slides back to open.
The powerplant in this gun is unique in the annals of airguns. As far as I know, only the Crosman 350, 3500 and M1 Carbine airguns have the poppet-type valve air control device. A flexible poppet valve very reminiscent of an automotive-type valve gives the gun its extra power. The air virtually explodes out when the valve is finally overcome.
The wood stock is best!
The gun was made with a wooden stock during the first year, then Crosman introduced a plastic stock with realistic wood grain pattern. They called the material Croswood, and it went on to become their stock material of choice for many years.
While the gun has a very fancy peep sight in the rear, accuracy is about standard for a BB gun. I can keep five shots in an inch and a half at 20 feet.
You should be able to find one in shootable condition for $50 to $60 without the magazine. With the mag, they're going for $90 to $100 today.
posted by B.B. Pelletier @ 4:30 AM
142 comments
142 Comments:
Love these articles about the older stuff. Some i had, most i wish i had. Keep 'em coming.
Denny,
I'll keep the oldies coming. I like them, too!
B.B.
Mr. Pelletier,
I was wondering where you obtained this information. I contacted Crosman and they said the gun was developed in the 1960's. I also wanted to know if there was by chance that there were still any places that sold them. I have a bad time looking them up since thats why i asked you? Can you help me out?
Sincerely,
Craig A. Poling
foxes76133@yahoo.com
Craig,
I check facts like the ones in this posting in a number of places. The Blue Book of Airguns is a great resource, as are Dean Fletcher's books on Crosmans and Benjamins.
As far as buying a vintage M1 Carbine, try the American Airguns classified page at http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/classifieds.html
You can advertize for what you want and it's free.
B.B.
I have one of these M-1 rifles and until now have not found very much info on it. I have not rebuilt it yet and I do need a magazine for it. Any ideas where I might find a mag. It has been fired alot and has little muzzle velocity but it is in very good condition. New gun to own and it creates alot of talk when people see it.
Finding a magazine will be next to impossible, as there are more guns than magazines, today. A few years ago, someone made up some solid cast plastic magazines that are the same size and shape on the outside. They fit into the mag well and look fine, they just don't have BB storage.
Contact John Groenewold at 847-566-2365. He can probably fix your gun, sell you the parts and perhaps he has a line on one of these fake magazines.
B.B.
After reading this about the M1, I looked in my hall closet and there it was, hidden away for many years. Took it out, oil and loaded it and fired away in my garage.
Thanks for reminding me of this lost treasure that I will now keep handy. It brought back many good memories.
bigvic,
Arni Dunathan, author of "The American B.B Gun," said it best, "BB guns [are] to sleep near."
Congratulations!
B.B.
So how do you load it.......I've got one with a wood stock missing the peep sight but can't figure out how to get a bb in it
Loading the carbine.
There are two holes on top of the upper handguard. The front one is the loading port. Pull the operating handle back and the port is opened for up to 23 BBs. They feed via gravity, so as you pull the barrel back, keep the butt low so a BB will feed.
That's it!
B.B.
Very nice, I wonder if they have an m1 garand bb gun...
Friedrich,
I'm not aware of a BB gun per se, but there is an M14 airsoft gun that's extremely realistic, and there's a pellet rifle made by Tong Il in South Korea that looks like a Garand. It's a single shot multi-pump pneumatic.
B.B.
Well... it is no wonder that today the magazines are more rare than the gun itself! I remember the day I lost mine, in a field full of tall grass. I must have bumped the magazine (pushing upward into the gun) and disengaging it from the BB gun as it fell into the tall grass, never to be fouind again.
Belive me, I tried looking for it again and again! I felt as though I lost a part of me. I will never forget the day I got the Crossman M1 Carbine BB Gun on Christmas day in 1969... and loosing the clip that summer in 1970.
It was about 6 years later when the plastic stock broke right above the rifle butt, and then later with great disapointment letting the gun lie to rest in the trash can.... after many repeated attemps to glue or expoxy the rifle back together. Boy, was that a sad day!
D. Jones
Dave!
Stop! You are breaking my heart! Your sad story dredges up all my own bad memories of things that shouldn't have hgappened.
It still hurts, doesn't it?
B.B.
Greetings from England.
I recently found one of these at a yard sale(I think that would be what you call it) and paid £10 for it. The rifle was in it's original box and still had the magazine.
After a bit of head scratching I figured out how to load and cock it and was surprised a)it still worked and b)how much fun it was.
I was able to ventilate coke cans at 30ft without too much effort.
When did they stop making these?
Hi, Stumpy,
You mean a boot sale, mate?
Isn't it a neat little airgun? Oil it through the rear hole in the upper handguard. Four drops of good airgun silicone should do the trick. The firing valve is a strange type of poppet valve that I've not seen in another airgun. It develops some real power!
For a tenner you got a real deal! Now, let's just hope you can keep it awhile.
The M1 carbine ended production in 1976, according to the Blue Book of Airguns, sold on this site.
Congrats,
B.B.
Yep boot sale. I will take good care of it. Do you ship to the UK? As I would like a copy of the Blue Book as I have managed to pick up a few older American air guns which I would like to know a bit more about.
Regards
Stumpy
Stumpy,
Go ahead and place your order in confidence. Pyramyd Air ships regularly to the UK.
And enjoy your treasure.
B.B.
Wow this brings back memories. I had one of these with the plastic stock and a Daisy lever action. I was able to find the Daisy in my mom's house but can't seem to find the Crossman :-(
Would love to find one now.
Ray,
They're out there. I see them on the gun auction sites all the time.
B.B.
My M1 came in today. By some miracle, I still have the original magazine that came with my M1 many years ago. Now I need some info on replacing the seal (not much power left at all) and the spring mechanism that helped hold the magazine in place. Any ideas????
Trip,
The M1 carbine uses a strange flapper-type poppet valve. The same valve can be found in a Crosman V-350 or V-3500 BB gun, so look to them for parts. They are usually available for cheap.
The magazine spring is a simple coiled wire spring that you should be able to find a replacement for. All it does is push down on the fake mag (it's really a BB reservoir) to hold the front lip in place in the stock.
B.B.
Thanks. I'll see what I can find. I'm going to tear it down this weekend and give it the treatment it deserves. A quick breakdown last night revealed a cleaner than expected gun.
This isnt a comment but if somebody knows where to go to get one please reply
Try here,
http://www.bbairguns.com/cgi-bin/item.pl?item=2324
B.B.
I dont want to bid i want to by one cheap
I want to by one now cheap
Pardner, you are looking for a hard-to-find vintage airgun. There is no store you can just walk into.
If you don't like bidding. I suggest you visit the airgun shows this year. There are always a few Carbines for sale there.
B.B.
Can i find one on the internet for cheap if its not to much to ask
The answer to that is, I don't know. Can you?
This is not a commonly offered airgun. You have to haunt the classified sites and the auctions to find them. I see them on the auctions all the time, but never for cheap. About $100 is the going price for one like I used for the posting.
B.B.
where can I get a BB clip for my wooden stock M1 carbine an how much is the gun worth
SVNFLDRLS,
The BB magazine is rarer than the gun. I doubt you will find a used one. Some airgunners have made solid plastic replicas that make your gun look right and they sell for about $35.
A wood-stock M1 Carbin is good shooting condition without the mag is worth $60-75. An excellent gun with the mag and original box brings $175-200.
B.B.
Ive got my gun and its superb thanks
Well - tell us all about it!
B.B.
what ammo can i use in my m1 lead,steel, or plastic?John
John,
Steel BBs only.
B.B.
I also have a Crossman M1 Carbine BB gun that I have had since I was a youg boy. I am 51 now and it is still going strong. I really did not play with it much, I really wanted it because at the time it was a close as I could come to matching my father's real Carbine. It is in excellent condition. Any idea of the value of a gun in excellent condition? I know that it is hard to price without actually seeing it.
I can come pretty close, but I need a little more information. Is the stock wood or plastic? Do you still have the magazine (which is really just a BB-carrying box)? Do you still have the box it came it?
There are two wear areas on the M1 Carbine. One is up behind the muzle where your hand holds the barrel to cock the gun. The second is at the junction of the barrel and stock, where the barrel slides back when cocked. How does your gun look in these two places?
Tell me that and I can give you a price range.
B.B.
The stock is wood. I still have the original magazine and magazine cover but not the original box that the gun came in. The two areas of the barrel that you mention have no wear at all. My grandson really wants it not as a shooter but as a collector piece. I am sure that he will eventually end up with it.
You have a $175 to $200 airgun. It would be a shame to shoot it if it's that good. Why not look for a nice shooter for your grandson?
I bought a nice M1 Carbine in the original box for $100 about five years ago. It came with the magazine,too. It shoots hard, but it's a shooter with some finish wear and it has the common plastic wood-grained stock. One like that should still be available for $100-125 today.
B.B.
Hi,
thanks a lot for this informations.
What size of BB does the gun need?
Is it possible to modify original M1-magazines as replacement?
You have mentioned the M1 Garand from Tong-Il. Do you have a hint where I can find one?
Best regards, Dr.K.
Dr. K.
The M1 carbine magazine is too large to be easily modified to fit the Crosman. Try contacting Bryan & Associates for a solid plastic placeholder magazine. They show it on their website bu list it as NA.
http://www.bryanandac.com/new_page_4.htm
The Crosman takes a standard steel BB, made by Daisy and Crosman. They have no stated size but they are 0.171 to 0.173-inces in diameter.
As for the Tong-Il rifle, Robert Beeman is the only person I know who has one. His is the one shown in the Blue Book of Airguns. I would think you might find them in Korea, if you have any contacts there.
B.B.
Hello There BB
I have one a wooden stock Crosman M-1 that I bought new as a boy.It has the clip however the lever on the slide you pull back to load bb's has broken off and the top metal piece that the sights are attached to is also broken but intact.How much would it cost to restore and would it be worth it to pass down to my son or should I just sell it off and if so app how much would it be worth then ?
Thanks
Jimmy
jcamp3@triad.rr.com
Jimmy,
A good strategy for you might be to find a working gun with a bad plastic stock mand replace it with yours. Use your gun for repair parts.
Hang on to that magazine. They are worth half of what the gun now brings!
B.B.
i had one of these rifles when i was a kid. my parents bought me one back in 1977. it was a display model with no magazine, but it had the box and booklet inside. the store gave us 10 bucks off. i went home and ordered another magazine for 8 bucks. i believe it was lost when my parents moved back in 1985...it was left in the attic i think. i am going to get another though. i thought about that rifle many times over the years and out of nowhere i see this online.
Randy,
It seems the M1 Carbine is one of the icons of youth. We all seem to have our memories of it.
B.B.
Hi B.B.,
you wrote:
"The Crosman takes a standard steel BB, made by Daisy and Crosman. They have no stated size but they are 0.171 to 0.173-inces in diameter."
I am not familiar with bb´s (steel), so I assumed that there are a lot of different types as we know from lead-bb´s (common diameter are 4,35mm, 4,4mm, 4,45mm and 4,46mm) and using the wrong type results in less power or sticking bullets. So I could use any steel-bb around 4,4mm?
Best regards
Dr.K.
Dr. K.,
I wasn't being flip with my answer. The airsoft people call their 6mm balls BBs, and some people call anything spherical a BB, so I was just trying to pin it down.
No, the steel BB is now an industry standard size, as I stated in the last answer. In Germany there is a much smoother steel ball made for the Diana model 30 smoothbore gallery gun. (It has two counters embedded in the stock - one for how many shots the shooter has fired and the other for the cumulative shots on the gun!) I believe that ball measures 4.4mm, which would be about 0.174-inch, but it is so smooth that it qualifies as a ball-bearing.
The different-sized lead balls that are for zimmerstutzens don't seem to have crossed over to the world of BB guns. However, you do suggest an interesting topic - who makes the best BBs today?
Thank you!
B.B.
hi i have one of these guns that has a broken stock and a broken piece on top does anyone have one for sale to use as parts? and if not i have the magazine that you said was so hard to locate. i may be interested in selling. emali me at amr5080@psu.edu thanks
i found one of these m1 carbines. i found it in a dressing room at my school. wierd place eh, but it was used as a prop for the drama department. as soon as i saw it i knew i needed to have it. when i first inspected it, i thought it was gas operated because of the spring that pushes against the magazine (thought they were threads for a remote line?)
my carbine is in poor condition, from being at a school, there is no magazine of course, no front sight, and the peep part of the rear sight is gone also. when i took it apart all the way yesterday, i lost the little spring that holds the small ball, which i assume prevents more than one round from being chambered. i had to manufacture my own.
even though it hardly qualifies as a bb gun, it goes with my collection of medals from my grandfather even more so now that i have learned the whereabouts of his M1 CARBINE Qualification badge
The information on this site was so help full,thank you all.
Ethan McDonald
I jut picked up a Carbine a few days ago. Great condition, very little ware, with mag, and it still has the Crosman logo sticker on it. Now just learning about it. Thanks for the info.
2B,
You are a lucky guy! Enjoy that gun.
B.B.
I would like to find parts for my m-1 carbine bb gun from Crosman.
Please advise who may sell such parts.
Alex,
You need to find one or more parts guns. Airgun shows and the classified ads are the places to go.
B.B.
Do you know of any M1 main spring upgrade,such as ox or any others made from square section wire?.I realize this would make it more difficult to cock,given the method of cocking.J
J,
I'm not aware of any.
B.B.
I had one of these back in the 70's and loved it. I never did know what happend to it, after I left home. I just ordered a New Real M1, I need a good coyote shooter.
I am filled with emotion after reading this thread (wiping the tear).
I was given my M1 Carbine back in 1972 at the age of 8 years. I had a cheap Daisy and my father, seeing my love for shooting, went out and purchsed this one for me. I have to admit, it was terribly hard cocking this gun at such a young age. I recall my father yelling at me as I placed two hands over the barrel to push it in to the body of the gun. I quickly learned how to position my two pointer fingers over the barrel sights, and pull down with all my weight. There were many long days hiking in the woods of NW NJ and where we camped in PA with my trusty M1. This gun was more accurate then others posted here. I can recall taking out rodents from 30 yards with clean head shots. This was a very powerful Airgun for its day.
The gun suffered the typical break in the stock. There was no amount of epoxy that would fix it. I remember keeping it for years, until my mid teens, when I purged my closet and threw it away. To make matters worse, it still had the clip bb box (crying now).
Well now Im on a mission to find one. To share the joy I knew with my own sons. There are many air rifles out there, and we have a few, but nothing compares to this replica. None. I task any of you to show me one that is as friendly, attractive, and powerful while being a replica. If anyone is willing to part with one for the right price, accpepts paypal, I am willing to pay very well. You can not place a price on childhood memories.
FatherGamer,
Visit the classified ads on American Airguns. Find the address here:
http://www.airguninfo.com/
Also look at
gunbroker.com
and
auctionarms.com
B.B.
Thank you for the input B.B.
Just a note to others, Paypal is not necessary, after seeing their policy. Live and learn.
i have one with mag. if someone wants to buy it, email me at GlasgowRangersFF@aim.com
You might get better action from the free classified ads at American Airguns.
http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/classifieds.html
B.B.
Still no luck. Made a classified, and had a response, but some reason the person didnt want to deal with a buyer from NJ. I am willing to do it through a gun dealer, whatever it takes. I really want one for my boys. Just bought another pumpmaster today, and they enjoy it. But now I have them all anxious for a miracle. :)
I have family in PA if that helps.
FatherGamer,
Two comments above yours is a man trying to sell a carbine. He gives his email address. Did you contact him?
Thge reason nobody wants to deal with a buyer from New Jersey is that your state declares airguns to be firearms. They will prosecute anyone selling airguns through the mail without an FFL.
B.B.
Wow! What a wonderful memory! I had one of these when I was about 10 years old. Let me tell you, my brothers were all jealous. They had Daisy CO2 and other stuff but, when they seen this M1 shoot they couldn't beleive it. I remember the gun being very rugged and accurate. Lately all my shooting has been with the real thing but I am re-discovering the joy of backyard plinking. I'd love to find another one of these Crossman M1's. What a kick!
Hi!
I love it when I connect to someone who remembers an old gun like this. If you want one of these they come up on the gun auction sites all, the time.
gunbroker.com
auctionarms.com
B.B.
I always wanted one of these when I was a kid.
>> Sigh << never happened.
After answering a Q from a friend about BB guns and what was a good choice for him to buy to teach his young'ins..
I remembered this gun and did a search and found this blog posting.
Also found this one, a funny read..
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/m1carbine/index.asp
Another gent re-living his childhood with this BB gun.
BK,
Thanks for that link. That was an interesting story.
B.B.
I got a carbine from a store in Monroeville, PA back in 1975 and loved it. I lost the magazine while out in the woods one day, and then the front site came off. I kept the gun all the time I was in the Navy and sold it to a kid at a flea market when it was on it's last legs. I just got a replacement in this week that I found on an auction site. Price was $112 (including shipping). The gun has a plastic stock and is completely intact (including the sliding cover on the mag) with a little wear on the barrel. It also has the original box with the orginal cardboard packing in it. Opening that box was like going back in time.
I have my origial Crosman M1 Carbine (real wooden stock) and all intact & very nice. My grandfather sold these back in the late 60's & had this one I own now as a demenstrator, it was used to show his customers on his route, if he got enough orders, he could keep this one, & yes, he sold the amount he needed to sell & gave me this one. I would never part with it, I cherish this baby.
I got mine when I was 12 using lawn mowing money. It still looks like new, except for the old "Fly Navy" sticker on the stock. Still works - my 10yr old son plays with it.
Hey, can someone tell me where i can buy this gun?
M1 Carbines are always available on gun broker and auction arms. There is at least one there now.
B.B.
the bb guns correct?
Sorry, but because this is an airgun blog I did mean the Crosman M1 Carbines, which are the BB guns. I forgot they also sell the .30 caliber M1 Carbines there, too.
Yes, you can find a Crosman M1 Carbine BB gun on either Auction Arms or Gun Broker.
B.B.
I had one of these with a plastic stock, went shooting one cold winter day, cocked the gun and the stock broke. Couldn't believe it as I loved that gun. Bought it at Kmart.
when i cock the gun the barrel jumps back before it should and sometimes it even shoots off by its self wat do i do??????
Your sear has failed. I recommend sending your gun to John Groenewold, PO Box 830, Mundelein, IL 60060-0830, (847) 566-2365.
He will get you back up and shooting.
B.B.
what is the sear?
The sear is the lever that restrains the piston when the gun is cocked. The trigger holds the sear in place.
B.B.
can i buy this from here?cuz i hella want this gun[bbgun]
This gun hasn't been made for several decades. If you want one, you'll have to buy it used. They come up for sale all the time on
gunbroker.com
and
auctionarms.com
Look under BB guns and airguns.
B.B.
This is all interesting to read! I've just got one of these out of my garage, original box and magazine, plastic stock, I remember going to get it with my uncle from a place in London called Sussex Armoury around about 1980, so excited when I got it and it's one that I've never got rid of unlike other air rifles I've had, moved recently so got it out the old loft and that's why it's in the new garage, great to see all the interest in it, thought I'd look it up on the net to see if any info and there's all this. Couple of things I'd like to know though, it seems a lot smaller than when I remember it as a 12 year old, is it based on the full sizr one, and is it easy to strip and clean, it all works perfect but would like to give it a once over? Thanks, Gav
Gav,
This BB gun is virtually the same size as the M1 Carbine, though not as heavy. It isn't difficult to strip and clean, but if you damage the poppet valve, there are no parts to fix it.
B.B.
I too have a broken plastic stocked M1 carbine, also have 2 original clips. where can I find a replacement stock ?????
e-mail
jimjohnson@wesfinch.com
Jim,
Contact John Groenewold, PO Box 830, Mundelein, IL 60060-0830, (847) 566-2365
B.B.
thanks a bunch !! it will be fun to dust it off again...
jim
for those of you that need a replacement stock, as I do, I spoke with John Groenewold and asked about a replacement. He has wood stocks machined from originals that are semi-inletted but not finnished. For a mere $150.00 you can get one.......needless to say, I am still looking. I wonder if Brownells Acryglass would hold???
JIM
A magazine is being sold for the Crosman M-1 on ebay until Nov 18th. The seller says they own the gun but it parting with the mag. ???
This is probably a deal where the gun is also for sale if you contact the seller.
B.B.
hi,these rifles do still come up cheap.i brought one in an auction in november,plastic stock,perfect working order,good condition but no magazine for £7/$15,so keep looking.Dave.
I have this one with the wood stock.... I love it a whole lot, been in our family for a long time. Would the wood stock version be more valuable than the plastic?
The wood stock is worth about 20 percent more than the plastic stock.
B.B.
hi!
Iam from Germany!
I also have these gun with the original Box.
In Germany it is really very hard to find such a gun. The price here is about 250,00 - 300,00 Euro.
It is really a piece of history!
Contact: captmudi@gmx.de
I have an M1 carbine that I received as a birhtday gift somewhere in the early 1970's. It is in excellent condition, and I still use it to this day. I have been teaching my 10 year old son to shoot with it, and it brings back all these memories of when I was a kid. It still has the mag, and the muzzle velocity is still pretty good. It will pierce an aluminum can at about 25 feet.
Hello,
maybe I have a source of replicas of the magazine (metal, no "solid" plastic stuff). The disadvantage: making only a few is to expensive, the price only drops to a reasonable amount if a lot of specimen a manufactured. If so a price of around 70,- US$ is possible. So I would like to know the number of magazines which could be ordered.
Greetings, Dr.K.
Dr. K.
I doubt that you would see enough magazines at $70 to make it worth the effort. Perhaps you might sell 100 in a year with magazine ads and promotion.
B.B.
Hi,
I'm a dealer at a flea market in Georgia and I came across one of these today. A guy stopped at the store and wanted to sell me a couple pieces and furniture. I paid him $60 and as he was about to leave he reached in his back seat and pulled out this little rifle and told me he'll throw this in for free. Being a busy Sat. I didn't think much about it just threw the rifle in my truck and went back to work.
So I get home from work tonight and turns out the little rifle the guy gave me is a Crosman M-1 Carbine wood stock and has the mag and mag cover. It does cock and the sites are all there, I need to get some BBs to test it with but it appears everything works. It does need a little oiled and some cleanup but this one isn't going in the store it's staying in my collection.
I do have a question, you mention in your initial post that the wood stock was only used in the first year of production. Can you tell me what year that was?
Thanks,
dmc
dmc,
The first year spanned 1966-67, but was only about 12 months.
B.B.
I have a crosman model 44 single action. It is complete. I also thought ahead when coming across spare parts and bought them. Seals and all. The gaskets for the powerlets don't seem to seal right however.What could be the problem? It worked fine until we replaced the gasket. Any suggestions or trouble shooting tips would be welcome.
If you don't use Pellgunoil it's easy to tear the thin seal that seals the powerlet when you install it. I would check for that. Repair stations drench the seal in oil before they install it.
B.B.
I Had one too! I got it for my birthday
in 69. I loved I wish I still had it. I use to hook my left index finger around the front sight and pull back to cock it.I could shoot rapid fire from the hip.
Crossman should put it back into production I would buy one.
Great reference info here! I just bought one, for a song. Guy didn't know what he had, said "maybe you can use this stock for something". It's a 66/67 model with a wood stock, great shape with the usual wear about the end of the barrel. Just knew I had to have it after I looked it over. Light wear, but complete and fully functional. Didn't really know much about it until I found this site. Now resides in my WWII rifle collection next to a couple of its big brothers. I have an sort of unrelated question, as there seem to be a lot of knowedgable BB'ers here. Any idea where to look for parts or info on the Crosman P-38 Air Pistol? I need a grip cover for the C02 canister. I would love to put this back together to put with my newest find. Thanks, Bryan
Bryan,
What a great find! The P38 isn't rare, but it's not that common, either. Ask this guy:
John Groenewold, PO Box 830, Mundelein, IL 60060-0830, (847) 566-2365
B.B.
I purchased one of the Crossman M1 Carbine's back when I was 13 years old. I'm 58 now and still have the rifle, it's in excellent condition and still has the same power it did as when I purchased it new. It is fully operational and periodically I strip it down, lube the parts and reassemble the rifle. In 45 years of owning this remarkable rifle, I use it often out on a military reservation on one of the field sites and just plink at cans. Still can put a hole through both side with it. I have to admit that this is one rifle that Crossman built with lastability. I love it.
MY gun has a mag on it and I am really good with the gun post more about it thanks!
I can do that, but what did you have in mind?
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