Career Infinity by Shin Sung – Part 3

by B.B. Pelletier

Part 1
Part 2

Let’s look at the Career Infinity velocity. The new inlet seal I showed you yesterday is working fine, and it may turn out to be the fix for this problem. I’ll let you know at the end of the accuracy report, when the gun has been filled many more times.

You may recall that this gun doesn’t shoot the pellets from the cylinders. It pushes them into the breech with a bolt probe, and that’s where they are fired from. That way the long gap from cylinder to breech is a non-issue, as far as accuracy goes. The pellet begins its flight while already in contact with the rifling.

However, there are two observations I will make about the cylinders. First, they do not rotate far enough to align with the bore during the cocking stroke. After cocking, I had to advance the cylinder another half turn to get the pellet chamber aligned with the bore. You know that because the bolt probe won’t align with the chamber in the cylinder, which prevents the sidelever from closing. That held true for both cylinders that came with the gun, and it takes away some of the speed you get from the rifle being a repeater.

The second thing I noticed about the cylinders is that it’s possible to insert them into the receiver backwards, with the tails of the pellet pointed forward. If you do that, the pellets still feed into the barrel and still fire normally. Remember to load the cylinders with the outer spring to the rear.

Cocking is easy enough. It isn’t exactly smooth, but the sidelever allows a powerful hammer spring to be compressed with reasonable effort.

The safety is, thankfully, manual. It’s always there if you need it, but you don’t have to fumble with it if you don’t want to. It’s easy enough to put on and take off with just the trigger finger.

The onboard pressure gauge reads in bar instead of psi. I found the one on the test gun reads about 25 bar low, so 3,000 psi reads as 175 bar instead of 206.

There’s a power adjuster on this rifle. There are four spots on the power wheel located in front of the triggerguard and there are a total of 12 positive click detents from lowest to highest power. Since that presents a lifetime of possibilities, I decided to limit the settings based on the pellet being used and how the air was holding out. With heavyweight Eun Jin pellets, I used the highest setting; with medium-weight Crosman Premiers and Air Arms pellets, I used the lowest setting.

Eun Jin
The Eun Jin pellet weighs 28.4 grains, nominally. With a fresh 3,000 psi fill, I got the following results with the first six shots:

985 fps
986 fps
965 fps
957 fps
949 fps
937 fps

That tells me the rifle is not on the power curve at 3,000 psi. It could also be that the valve cannot function with pellets this heavy. I then filled it to 3,300 psi and got these results:

1017 fps
1011 fps
1001 fps
998 fps
987 fps
979 fps

971 fps
962 fps
952 fps
944 fps
927 fps
924 fps

It seems as if the gun’s maximum fill is still higher than 3,300 psi, but I don’t have the pressure to go there. Nor do I think I would if I could. I’ve seen the walls of the reservoir, and they aren’t that thick. I don’t recommend overfilling this rifle, because I don’t think there’s a large margin of safety. I did it to demonstrate that the valve was not yet on the power curve.

Also, the way the valve is constructed, each shot will decline in velocity. This rifle has no broad flat spot on the power curve, like many PCPs do. However, I wouldn’t shoot it this way if it were my rifle. Instead, I’d use the abundant number of lower-powered shots it offers.

Plenty of good shots at low power
On the lowest power setting, a fresh fill gave 6 strings of 6 shots between 927 f.p.s. and 1068 f.p.s. with 14.3-grain Crosman Premiers and 16-grain Air Arms Diabolo Field pellets. That’s a total of 36 shots at that velocity range on low power from a single 3,000 psi fill. Taking a central 1,000 f.p.s. as the average for the 16-grain Air Arms pellets, that’s 35.5 foot-pounds.

To get the last string, I bumped the power wheel up to the yellow level, which is three-quarters full power on this gun. The shots were still falling off rapidly, as you see here:

996 fps
983 fps
967 fps
954 fps
938 fps
927 fps

Maybe 30 shots is more realistic than 36, but that’s a lot of very powerful shots with what may well turn out to be the most accurate pellets. As a practical hunting gun, you either get 12 shots that average about 60 foot-pounds or 30 shots averaging 36 foot-pounds. That makes the Infinity one heck of a good hunting rifle!

The single-stage trigger breaks after a lot of creep at a light 2 lbs., 10 ozs. The trigger blade is too curved for my taste, but I can’t deny that it’s lighter than the triggers of 99 percent of all unmodified rimfires.

There’s a lot of intrigue to this rifle. Now that the inlet valve has been fixed, we’re going to see what it’s capable of. Next time, we’ll look at accuracy.

44 Responses to “Career Infinity by Shin Sung – Part 3”

  • Vince Says:

    BB, is the RWS 54 harder on scopes than the 48 and the 52, or is this another ‘internet rumor’?

    Since the stock isn’t bolted firmly to action, it would seem that the recoil actually felt by a scope (which is clamped to the action) would be more severe – since the action doesn’t have the added mass of the stock to help dampen the shock.

  • kevin Says:

    B.B.,

    Very timely report. Took your advice and ordered a chrony with printer (prochrony with remote). Your report is a primer for helping me understand what the shot strings should be telling me about my pcp. I have what must be several very elementary chrony questions:

    1-How can you tell by the two shot strings that the “rifle is not on the power curve” or “the valve cannot function with the pellets this heavy”? In other words, what do the numbers need to say for me to know that the rifle is on the power curve.

    2-What is the definition of a “broad flat spot on power curve”? If I remember, you’re looking for the highest number of shots within a 50 fps spread? Or should the spread be measured in foot pounds?

    3-Maybe this is the same question as above but, how do you recognize “valve lock” with the chrony so you never fill the gun beyond that point again?

    kevin

  • Jane Hansen Says:

    B.B.
    Great to see results on the Infinity. I must relate a story:
    I just returned from business in Inchon, Korea, where I met a retiring colleague, Mr. T.W. Bae. Mr. Bae,(because I had to ask), owns several Career rifles.
    He took me shooting at an indoor hangar with his Infinity. Here’s some of his thoughts.

    1. Shot count was not important in designing the hunting rifle. Whether you go for a day or a week, each morning you charge the gun, and go into the woods with 2 clips. A “good hunter” never needs the second clip. Bae says this is tradition – all Korean hunting rifles come with two 6-shot clips.

    2. The barrel is fully shrouded. It’s a wool-filled shroud, not a baffled silencer. Not near as loud as a 22LR, but after a dozen shots, all the game’s been scared away.

    3. Mr. Bae demonstrated the Korean “technique”. He starts at full power, (only Eunjins here), as he fires off 2 or 3 pellets, his finger is nudging that power wheel a couple of clicks. No chronograph, but they learn from POI just how often and how much to dial. “that’s why the wheel is where it is” he says.

    4. At the end of 2 clips, he recharges the gun. For him, this is a very full day of hunting, and the rifle is made solely for hunting. About 50 pumps and he’s ready to go.

    5. Bae insists on clean pellets. They are washed with soapy water, rinsed, dried, then sprayed with silicone. (they use “Kel” spray – a mix of heptane, trichloroethylene, and silicone. The solvents flash off rapidly).
    Bae insists lead dust will foul the shroud and the barrel, jam the works, and ruin accuracy.

    I told him of your seal problems. He was ashamed for his Korean countrymen. There is a new dedication to quality here, and he said the rifle must work flawlessly, or be replaced. His worked perfectly – no problem holding air, or with cylinder alignment. (please check your works – we had absolutely no issues).

    A final note – Mr. Bae gave me the rifle as a gift, along with a pump, which I carried home on the plane, disassembled, in a small Christmas Tree box.

    I now have a problem I never considered – being just barely 130lb. soaking wet, I simply can not get this thing anywhere near fully charged. Seems like some deliberate discrimination in these things – now what do I do?

    Best regards,

    Jane Hansen

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Vince,

    I never heard that the 54 is harder on scopes, and my personal experience with a 54 is limited. So I really don’t know the answer.

    All I know is that in the limited time I spent with one, the scope worked fine.

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Kevin,

    Your questions about my remarks concerning the power curve have prompted tomorrow’s blog.

    Thank you.

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Jane,

    Well, Mr. Bae sounds like a wise man. I have long contended that you don’t have to shoot a lot of shots when you hunt.

    As for you, I think for many reasons pumping is out of the question. I am going to recommend that you get a large carbon fiber tank and contact Airhog to create a Career probe that your tank can couple to. Fill your new rifle that way and enjoy!

    B.B.

  • kevin Says:

    B.B.,

    You’re welcome. Always happy to make you work more and harder.

    kevin

  • kevin Says:

    Vince,

    RE: Is the 54 harder on scopes…

    Out of many firearms and now over 15 springers I never encountered a rifle that was harder to scope. I’ve never owned a 48 or 52 to compare but I am convinced that the sliding rail that makes the 54 recoiless for the shooter is very hard on scopes. Without boring you with details I’ll say that over 2 months I went through 3 scopes, several mounts and numerous scope rings (including a set of b-square adjustables) and couldn’t keep the scope on target.

    My solution, with almost 6 months of shooting and thousands of rounds through the gun, was….drum roll,

    B.B.’s new leaper’s base with a set of STEEL warne scope rings. Even with the heavy scope (swat 3-12×44 w/ illumination) on the gun now, problem is solved. Bulletproof.

    kevin

  • Anonymous Says:

    BB,I was going to ask where you think the source of the indexing problem is,then I read Jane’s wonderful korean adventure story.my guess would be the rifle’s indexing mechanism because if it were the cylinders they would both be flawed the same way[possible,but less likely]…will you be keeping and fixing this one?allways curious,FrankB

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Frank,

    Jane is talking about a rifle that feeds from a linear magazine. There is no indexing taking place. I am talking about a revolver that is failing to index the next chamber.

    Jane’s type of rifle cannot possibly have the same problems as the Infinity I am testing because it uses a different feed mechanism.

    At least that is what I got from her report. She used the term “clips,” which I believe means linear clips. Jane, please correct me if I am wrong. Were you referring to an Infinity, and is that the rifle you were given?

    B.B.

  • Jane Hansen Says:

    B.B.

    The Infinity Mr. Bae bestowed upon me was the exact model, side-lever, rotary magazine, that you pictured. Even came with the English instruction booklet. No indexing problems at all.

    Bae was much more adept than I. His motions were very smooth – cocking and increasing power between shots while still on target.

    I had quite few problems getting the knack of the movement, but I can do it now without a problem. Something must be keeping your lever from going completely out and fully actuating the indexing arm.

    One more question if I may – does PA sell any sort of bipod that would bolt up to that front barrel ring? It seems to have a hole in it for something, and I can’t see how else to attach one.

    Jane Hansen

  • .22 multi-shot Says:

    Jane,

    If you want a pump, perhaps the new FX four stage pump would be the ticket? I forget who mentioned they have one, but if I remember correctly, it pumped to 3000 PSI as easily as the three stage pumps go to 2000 PSI. Pumping to 2000 PSI is a piece of cake with my Discovery pump, but I weigh 195 lbs. so that may not be a good gauge. Pumping to 3000 PSI is an effort and requires me using my body weight.

    .22 multi-shot

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Jane,

    Thanks for clarifying that for me. Now I know they can feed correctly.

    The barrel band has a sling swivel attachment point, but it looks too thick to accept any bipods I know of.

    My bipods are in a storage locker, so I can’t get to them right now.

    Does anyone know if they will fit?

    Pyramyd Air could check for you.

    B.B.

  • CJr Says:

    B.B.,
    As I’ve said before I’ve been reading your blogs for about a month now. However, I have not seen any of those stupid questions where you have had to say, “There are no stupid questions”. So, I’m going to register my own entry.

    I think I would like the feel of the cocking action of a lever action or bolt action powder rifle, say, like, a 30-06 hunting rifle. I don’t mean black powder because I’m not at all familiar with them. Are there air rifles that produces this same feel? I would imagine it would have to be a PCP because the effort of spring or pump would be too hard and ruin the feel. Having one of each would also round out my growing collection of break barrel, under lever single pump, forearm multi pump, and side lever air rifles.

    -Chuck

  • Jane Hansen Says:

    B.B.

    I’ve been toying with my Infinity a bit. It seems all the rotation of the cylinder is done on the “back-stroke” of the lever. The cylinder locks into alignment when the top pellet-hole snaps over the detente ball in the receiver. Either your lever is not coming all the way back, (needs to go 90deg out), the ball is missing, or the linkage that drives the rotator piece is loose or bent.

    I can only suggest a “desparation move” my female fellow-workers will use to free recalcitrant mechanisms – flush it down with WD40. (Yes I know – bad for O-rings and stuff, but as the San Diego Rocket Company guy said..”safe for rocket O-rings, safe for rifle O-rings” – and they invented the stuff). I’d clean it out real good after that, maybe it would work.

    Best regards, and thanks for the Air Hog advice

    Jane Hansen

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Chuck,

    Yes, there are air rifles that work that way. There are several different lever actions and there are some rifles that work similar to a Remington Rolling Block.

    There are a few bolt action rifles, too, but they are all BB guns (they shoot round lead balls from rifled barrels).

    What do you want to do with your airgun?

    B.B.

  • :) Says:

    I just bought a Benjamin discovery in .177 and man it is an awesome gun! Made the decision after reading all the great reviews about it and blogs and stuff. Def. a keeper.

    Ok anyway, I bought it mainly because I want to kill those pesky little squirrels in style. I want to order some pellets, what pellets do you guys think would be the best for taking down squirrels? In .177

    Crow Magnums ?

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Jane,

    On your suggestion I lubricated the bolt probe and small o-ring on the probe – BUT NOT WITH WD-40! Shame on you.

    I also lubed the areas of receiver contact with the two cylinders. This was with diver’s silicone, but it did cut some friction. Now, if I am very deliberate and cock with a super-fast stroke, the cylinder advances far enough for the bolt probe to align and drag it the rest of the way, 75 percent of the time.

    It’s no biggie for me that the gun doesn’t index. The problem is a hand that’s too short. I am used to them from my Colt SAA days. If this were my own rifle I would replace the hand, but since I’m just testing it I don’t mind the hand-indexing.

    Thanks for thinking of me.

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    :0,

    O always recommend the most accurate pellet for hunting because if you miss it doesn’t matter how good the pellet is.

    For the .177 Discovery I recommend 10.5-grain Crosman Premiers (oiled with FP-10) or JSB Exact domed pellets, 10.2-grain.

    B.B.

  • CJr Says:

    B.B.,
    I am only interested in plinking and target with a novelty rifle. I wouldn’t even mind a BB gun if was good quality, although in my mind I see a lever that’s hard to cock.

    I want easy cowboy lever cocking and easy, sniper like, bolt action cocking, as easy as can be. That’s why I think I might have to have PCP but I’m only guessing.

    I would not spend $500 to satisfy this urge – maybe $200. If you said it was a really good, accurate gun and cocks just like a Winchester 74 (I’m sticking my neck out here because I’ve never cocked one but I’ve seen cowboys do it in the movies)I would agonize over $300 for three days then spend it.

    I’m saving the $500(+?) for an AirForce Edge for IF and when I’m ready to get competition serious. I’ll be researching that sometime in the near future, and I’ll want your opinion before I agonize over spending that. But, right now…I just want to play :)
    -Chuck

  • :) Says:

    BB, you said to use the Crosman Premiers oiled with FP-10. Does FP10 help keep the gun in working order? Why do I have to use FP10 with the premiers? How much should I use on each pellet? Thanks!

  • Jane Hansen Says:

    B.B.

    You’re right…I know – WD40 is a desperate woman’s answer to anything mechanical.

    I’ve been thinking about oiling pellets. Mr. Bae was very scientific in his pellet preparation. Each pellet was left silvery clean with just a sheen of thin silicone oil. He claimed this was best for his gun, and his accuracy.

    I can’t find his “Kel Spray” anywhere, but I had a thought: Pneumatic tool oil. Pneumatic tools are loaded with O-rings, spinning motors, pressure cylinders, linkages, etc. It would seem to me that any oil that Ingersal Rand, Chicago Pneumatic, or other tool manufacturers sells for their tools, would be fine for lubricating pellets. After all, what we want is a benign film that will prevent metal-to-metal contact in the barrel. Anything viscous will hurt velocity, anything reactive will damage components, anything residual will gum up the works. Air tools have the same needs, and these companies aren’t likely to sell anything that will cause them warranty work or poor performance.

    Any thoughts before I start washing pellets?

    Jane Hansen

  • Anonymous Says:

    Kevin,

    What PCP did you get?

    Jane,

    The tank suggestion from B.B. would be best, but the FX 4 stage pump does make it much easier – but it is still work.

    Volvo

  • Anonymous Says:

    Sorry this is so long, just fast forward if you’re not interested…

    CO2 and the QB-78

    Before I dive into the review, I would like to offer an explanation as to how this particular rifle ended up in my care.

    Earlier this year I decided to move from collector and shooter to shooter only in air gun ownership.

    This meant eliminating numerous pistols and rifles along with both a floor and wall rack. I retained my gun safe and one floor rack.

    When the dust settled I found to my dismay that I had over sold and had an empty spot!

    I decided to turn to the forums to solicit help in filling the spot. I offered an explanation of my situation and needs along with a list of current and past rifles and then waded through the replies.

    Expectedly, many guys just listed their favorite. However, the two relevant and recurring suggestions were an older 10-meter target rifle or a tuned QB-78. The QB-78 intrigued me the most.

    How could a sub $80 rifle have such a following?

    When I asked questions about the QB-78, they suggested I spend some time on the Chinese forum, which was not written in Chinese as I had long suspected.

    It seems the QB-78 is a copy of the now defunct Crosman 160 & 167. Crosman still offers a 1760 and 2260 that I will assume are the modern day replacements in their line up.

    Similar in size and weight to the Discovery, the QB-78 is svelte rifle, which was one of the attractions for me. I also felt I would give CO2 another chance due to its zero effort factor and my ever increasing age. I have not been an advocate ever since my experiences with leaky CO2 pistols in the 70’s.

    No pumping or spring compressing needed, I justify the CO2 cost by the reduction of effort required. The 12-gram cartridges are also attractive in my book. More readily available then the 88 gram and very affordable, they are a simple power source.

    I could achieve a similar result by adding dive tank for my PCP’s, but for now this seems a cost effect alternative. Be sure to calculate the cost per cartridge when you buy, for example the 25 count at PA is much more ecominical then a 15-count box.
    You can save even more by ordering a 100 bulk.

    Thoughts on Tuning – perhaps when I retire my stance will change, but for now I feel most things are best lefts to the experts.

    Going back to the mid 1960’s the start of every summer was marked by a visit to the back porch with my old man and his hair clippers in tow. While our town boasted two Barbershops, he felt a summer buzz cut was too easy to waste money on.

    I would sit nervously inhaling the 3 and 1 oil the clippers were dripping with. Never a question of if, but when the nick would come to an ear or the back of the neck. With the unfiltered Camel in the corner of his mouth a “sorry about that son”, would follow as the blood slowly dripped.

    Some things are best left to the pros.

    Since the rifle was affordable to start, getting it tuned still keeps it well within reach. After a little research, I went with a Mike Melick QB-78. He is one of the Airgun Artisans that can be found on a link at PA.

    When the rifle arrived I was pleasantly surprised that he had written a short note and signed the box along with including two supplemental manuals. I have to say the disassembly instructions he supplied are the most thorough I have ever encountered.

    The rifle is mostly all wood and steel. The stock is nicely finished, although a slightly odd dark reddish color. The wood species is unknown to me, but the grain is very nice -almost highly figured. The only flaw is a substantial patch containing wood filler. While this would be unacceptable at a higher price point, it is forgiven at this cost.

    Overall fit and finish is good.

    Loading the CO2 is painless, open the bolt and unscrew the cap. You can use either one or two cartridges to charge the rifle. If one is used, you simply insert a spent cartridge in first. I use the obligatory Pellgun oil.

    I pick a Leapers 3x9x40 scope that seems ideal based on cost and size for the rifle.
    My first shot is very close horizontally, but hits a few inches high. I fire a second without adjustment and it over laps the original. Intrigued, another shot also connects with the first two. Now I cannot stop and two more disappear in the hole started by 1-3. What I find impressive is I am shooting off my knee. No rest, no locked field target position.

    I skip the rest of the sighting in process and move to the Chrony, excited by the potential of the rifle. The factory claims 600 fps in .177. Mike states after his tune to expect 700 fps, however this particular rifle was claimed to have hit 800 fps. I grab CPL’s as a gauge, simply because I have tested them in so many rifles I can easily make a mental comparison.

    They average 756 fps in my 63-degree basement. That is about 10ft lbs, not bad at all. I suspect in a warmer environment with a hobby pellet the 800 fps mark would be readily attainably.

    Round lead balls are also well suited to the rifle. Awkward in a barrel break with a tight breech, they seem made to load in this bolt action. No need to look, you just drop one in. Accuracy is also good.

    The trigger clearly has been worked on and is very light. I keep telling myself I need a trigger pull gauge, but one is very light. Maybe too light, because if I skip the “setting the safety step” and smartly smack the bolt home the rifle fires. I can duplicate this at will. I will have to see what Mike thinks will correct this. The trigger has three separate setscrews. I will use the safety until I can sort this out.

    After numerous pellets and hours with the rifle, I have to admit I am more impressed then I felt would have been possible. I have tried dozens and dozen of rifle over the years, and this one turned out to be real sleeper. Power for pests, accuracy for targets, all with almost zero physical effort and minimal cost – a nice addition to any arsenal.

    Volvo

  • BG_Farmer Says:

    Volvo,

    Sounds good, except the trigger/safety part. That stain and wood combination is inescapable with the Industry guns — it grows on you after a while, or you can sand it off and stain a color you’re more comfortable with.

    If I had a basement instead of solid blue limestone under the house, CO2 would be perfect. I’m jealous.

  • Anonymous Says:

    Bg-farmer,

    Maybe it could be a 3-season rifle for you? Or you could put one of those hunting socks with a battery warmer over the fore end?

    As far as the bolt, it must cock the rifle on the forward push. I decided to slam it with my palm in a fast fire mode and that is when it fired wo the help of the trigger.

    I’d guess it is just set too light, but I want to e-mail Mike first to get his input. I did add lube to the bolt, so maybe it worked its way down to the trigger?

    I tend to over lube almost everything.

    Volvo

  • kevin Says:

    Volvo,

    Good to hear from you. Good read.

    Coincidentally, I placed an order earlier today with Mike Melick for two B-26′s in .22 that he tuned. This will be my first foray into the chinese world. With the exceptions of good chinese restaurants and I don’t think that counts. These will be gifts to twin boys that are family friends. I feel obligated to test them after I install the scopes. Wayne Burns graciously offered to order scopes, intermounts and rings from pyramyd air. B.B.’s take on these rifles intrigued me and the feedback on the chinese forum on the Mike Melick tuned b-26′s put me over the edge. We’ll see.

    kevin

  • kevin Says:

    Volvo,

    Didn’t see your earlier question about my new pcp. Not here yet. Can’t spoil the surprise but your instincts were spot on. Scary.

    Undoubtedly you’ll be in for a laugh when I reveal what I bought and the troubles I will undoubtedly have in entering this foreign land of pcp’s. Please stay tuned since I expect to need your help and guidance.

    kevin

  • Anonymous Says:

    Jane

    I use FP-10, it is a multi purpose oil also used for cleaning. It is not silicone but petroleum-based. I have used it on 5,000 pellets I have shot through my Talon and never needed to clean the barrel yet. I can shoot 10 shot 1 inch groups at 50 yards off a bench with my Talon.

    Jeff

  • derrick38 Says:

    Volvo,

    What a nice, comfortable writing style. As we say in the shop, “Jealousy is an ugly chapeau”, but, man, I’m wearing that hat right now.

    Derrick

  • Anonymous Says:

    Derrick,

    Thanks for the generous compliment, although I hardly feel my ramblings would qualify as a style. I just take what few thought are meandering through my brain and peck them out on the keyboard.

    Kevin,

    I think you will enjoy your journey into the PCP world. They are a nice change of pace.

    Wayne,

    Received my first Gardening catalog for 2009. Do you sell a compost maker? I have one that is black plastic and not at all attractive right now.

    Volvo

  • wayne Says:

    Volvo,

    Nice report, I’ve got an old 160, but it leaks, so I haven’t tried it yet..
    I almost grabbed that FX whisper on the yellow last night.. very close.. still on the fence..
    I traded off the .22 cal PCPs now and adding .177 with FT potential.. I’m thinking it’s a little light for that, what do you think?… just as a starter like the AAs410 is.. the S410 is a little heavier, and might be steadier in the crossarm sitting position..but maybe the FX for a smaller person.. And I want to compare so bad..

    Yes, I can help you with a compost bin. I would love to give you a great deal.
    wayne.burns@naturalyards.com

    It was 38 years ago tonight that Chris and I got engaged!! so I’m out of here dudes…

    Wayne,

  • .22 multi-shot Says:

    Volvo,

    Nice writeup on the QB-78! That is a rifle that one can afford and and seems to be decent quality. There’s a magazine setup now that turns it into a repeater too.

    .22 multi-shot

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Chuck,

    Then I have the PERFECT rifle for you. The Walther Lever Action rifle is a close copy of a Winchester 94 lever action rifle. At 20 yards it keeps all its shots on a penny. You get 8 fast shots (more than the Winchester) with a quick flick of the lever. And the Walther lever is easier to use than the Winchester’s – so no complaints there.

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    ;),

    Always lubricate Crosman pellets when shooting them faster than about 850 f.p.s. They have antimony on their alloy to harden the lead, and antimony makes the lead smear onto the bore if the pellets are not lubricated. Pure lead pellets don’t smear until they go much faster.

    Put a foam liner in the bottom of the pellet tin, then put a layer of pellets on the foam. The drop 20 drops of FP-10 on the pellets. They will transfer the oil to the foam, which will continue to lubricate new pellets for a long time. From time-to-time, drop a few more drops of FP-10 into the tin.

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Jane,

    As you have no-doubt seen, I recommend FP-10 to those wanting an off-the-shelf pellet oil. For DIY’ers, I recommend Whiscombe Honey, which is two parts Hoppes Gun Oil and one part STP Engine Treatment.

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Vlvo,

    I laughed; I cried; I enlisted in the Marines! You are a writer, my friend. No matter what they pay you for flippin’ burgers, you always have a fallback in writing.

    I just wish I could get gun reviews like that from my guest bloggers, who, by the way, can contact me for blogging instructions at:

    blogger@pyramydair.com

    Excellent review! I want more.

    B.B.

  • Anonymous Says:

    B.B.

    Thanks for the kind words.

    Volvo

  • CJr Says:

    B.B.,
    Thanks for your recommendation of the Walther Lever Action rifle. I was afraid you wouldn’t take me seriously. I ordered it this morning. Looks like I’m going to have to pop for a large gun safe pretty soon. Now, if I can only find that bolt action…..

    My three grand kids came over today and between the three of them and their IZH-61s (your recommendation) and my Daisy 953 (your recommendation) we went through 750 Gammo match pellets.

    Happy New Year and thanks and keep on bloggin!

    -Chuck

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Chuck,

    I hope you also ordered Crosman Pellgunoil for those CO2 powerlets? A drop on the nose of every powerlet helps keep the rifle sealed a long time.

    For pellets, Crosman wadcutters are great, and they are cheap. Those Gamo Match pellets work fine, also.

    Next week I will start a special report on bolt-action pellet guns for you.

    B.B.

  • Matthew Says:

    I was looking at the shin sung dragon slayer big bore .50 cal. I have used the old version (dragon) and was wondering if it comparable to the new version or if perhaps there is a better .50 cal I am unaware of. Any help or advice of what could be the best choice would be great!!

    PS Happy New Year!!! :)

  • CJr Says:

    Wow B.B.,
    You are such a rarity these days! Let me know when you run for president. I am honored (for the second time)and excited to have sparked a new blog from you.

    I spent New Years Eve with my daughter’s family at her house so I was stone cold sober when I got home, read your reply and ordered the Walther. I didn’t even agonize over it.

    I ordered the 40 ct 12 oz CO2 package and I did order two pellgunoil tubes. I remember someone wishing in an earlier blog for larger pellgunoil containers so I ordered two.

    FMI, now that I have both MP-5 and Pellgunoil, which should I use for general joint oiling? All my airguns are around 500 fps except for one 1200 fps.

    -Chuck

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Matthew,

    The Dragon Slayer is just an updated version of the Dragon. I have shot them both and they perform about the same.

    If you want greater power you pretty much have to get a Quackenbush big bore. They are over 500 foot-pounds stock and can be bumped up much higher.

    I assume that was what you were asking?

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Chuck,

    The Pellgunoil is a more general-purpose lube, so I’d have to vote for it.

    Please tell us what you think of the lever action.

    B.B.

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