Evanix Blizzard S10 – Part 1

by B.B. Pelletier


Blizzard S10 from Evanix is a big rifle, but not a heavy one. You must scope it.

Here’s a popular airgun many of you have been asking about. It’s the Blizzard S-10 from Evanix, a 10-shot repeater with good power and quiet operation. Many shooters feel it may be the most significant Korean PCP to come to market in a long time. This test will look into those areas for you, and we’ll see what this new rifle offers.

The Blizzard S10 is an all-new rifle. It’s a sidelever-type bolt-action revolver with a 10-shot cylinder that advances as the action is cocked. The revolving cylinder is actually a clip that is removed to load. And this one holds 10 pellets, so it’s larger in diameter than the cylinders that hold six. This one sticks above the receiver, so two-piece scope rings are required.


The 10-shot clip is metal and uses a large o-ring around the outside to hold all the pellets in place. It works smoothly and without hangups when advancing.


The clip sticks up above the top of the receiver, so 2-piece scope rings are required. The safety is a silent European type.

This is a large air rifle, but not a heavy one. Because a lot of what’s inside the gun is just air, it’s surprisingly light. At 8.75 lbs., no one will mistake it for a lightweight, but given the size of both the reservoir and the barrel shroud, it feels lighter than it looks. Of course, it comes without sights, so factor in the weight of a scope and rings, which add at least another pound.

I’m testing a .22 caliber, which has to be the overall most desirable caliber, but know that the rifle also comes in .177. In some places, .22 caliber has been hampered by harmful legislation, so offering the .177 makes sense, but if you get one in that caliber be prepared to shoot the heaviest pellets to keep the velocity under control, which means under the sound barrier. The .22 should be ideal, and I should be able to shoot heavier pellets for greater long-range power, as long they will fit in the cylinder.

There’s no possibility for power adjustment on this gun. You just shoot it as it comes, which in .22 caliber is supposed to hit around 1050 f.p.s.

The stock on my test gun is a right-hand version, shaped as well as any English airgun stock every was. That’s understandable, too, because the Koreans have been making stocks for English airguns for several years. The Blizzard stock has a very vertical pistol grip with a scooped-out thumbrest at the top for a vertical thumb hold on the shooting hand. That’s one of my favorite holding positions, so I find the stock very easy to hold. The buttpad is also adjustable for height, so you can dial in this stock for maximum comfort. I’m testing the standard stock, but there’s also a right-hand thumbhole stock.

Does the Blizzard have any “technology”?
Yes, it does. The shroud isn’t entirely hollow. In the front, there are what appear to be Delrin baffles that will break up the turbulent air as it comes out of the muzzle. The shroud itself is large–0.985″ in diameter, so a whisker under a full inch. It looks like a bull barrel, except for the brass muzzle cap that breaks up the impression. Inside you can see the technology and even remove the top portion of it, though most of it remains tucked inside. A little forensic investigation revealed at least six levels of baffles inside, if you count the one just beneath the end cap. That should make for a very quiet rifle, though this one may have too much power to be too quiet.


A look under the muzzle cap. Four more baffles under this one and another one plus an end cap on top.

So, how much noise?
Make no assumptions! When shot with no pellet in the barrel, the Blizzard is quite loud. But load a pellet, and the noise diminishes to a third as loud. It sounds about like a Sheridan Blue Streak shooting on three pumps. It’s about as loud as a Diana 34. But remember, this rifle generates three times the energy of the 34. I can’t tell you whether it’s quiet enough for your backyard because I don’t know your situation. My house is 15 feet from either neighbor, and the Blizzard is too noisy to shoot in the fenced backyard when they’re home. But for a rifle of this power, it’s very quiet.

Stock observations
The stock shape positions your sighting eye very high above the receiver, so a scope will be right in line. A rifle with this power potential demands a scope that can hold up to long-range work, so I’ll select one accordingly. The right-hand stock operates very smoothly for a righty like me. A lefty will choose the left-hand stock but will still have to support the weight of the rifle with his shooting hand when he operates the sidelever. That will put some strain on the shoulder and left hand. But a right-hander will find this rifle quite smooth and fast to operate.

Things they got right
I have to comment on the fill port because Evanix got it right. The gun has a captive fill port cover that turns to protect the port from dirt and opens easily for a fill. It’s a small feature, but one that many companies can’t seem to get right.

The pressure gauge (manometer) is marked in bar! Hallelujah! For so many years, we have put up with the cryptic Asian pressure readings, but now we have a gauge that’s marked in a world-recognized scale. Fill to 200 bar.


A Korean pressure gauge that reads in bar!

The safety is a copy of a European silent safety that’s been around for many decades. It’s on the right rear of the receiver and works as you would expect–back for safe and forward to fire. No automatic safety!

There hasn’t been much testing of the Blizzard, so I guess I’m getting in on the ground floor.

61 Responses to “Evanix Blizzard S10 – Part 1”

  • Alexander Says:

    Great! Wooooo first one to comment hahahah!

  • Anonymous Says:

    B.B. Off topic: What is the correct procedure to fill a carbon fiber tank for the first time? Any advice would be appreciated.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Carbon Fiber tank,

    Unless you own a 4,500 psi compressor, you won't be filling tank. It will be filled by a trained operator.

    The correct way is to fill slowly, to avoid heat buildup. My first fill took at least 10 minutes and more likely 15.

    B.B.

  • Anonymous Says:

    Hi B.B.

    What would you guess would be the best pellet weight for the Benjamin Marauder tuned for 2500 psi?

    JSB Diabolo Exact Jumbo 15.8
    JSB Diabolo Exact Jumbo Heavy 18.1
    Beeman Kodiak 21.1

    Thanks,
    Jeff

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Jeff,

    The fill pressure has nothing (or not very much) to do with the velocity. So "tuned" to me means the velocity you have set.

    My best results to date have been with 15.8-grain Exacts, but I haven't tested the 18;.1-grainers yet. Wayne may have shot both, so maybe he can answer you.

    B.B.

  • wayne Says:

    Good Morning All

    Hope all the fathers had a wonderful day.. I did!

    Boy, I'll say the Blizzard is big! It won't fit into my gun cabinet, it's so tall!

    The Evanix Blizzard I got has a really beautiful two tone stock, with a very colorful heartwood strip! A lot prettier than the one B.B. is testing, so there's a chance for a real, real, nice stock.. as good as any Air Arms I've seen..
    It's different wood, Asian I guess, but beautiful none the less..
    and very well done finishing!

    If the same power plant is used, I don't see how you can keep it under the sound barrier in .177 cal! Mine is doing 1068fps average on the first ten shots with .22 cal 18gr JSB… Maybe the Eunjin .177 in 16gr will do it.. but the math says no…

    This gun would do better to move up in cal to .25
    Ten shots at 900fps with a 25 or 30 gr .25 cal would really be a great hunter.

    I killed a squirrel with the Blizzard the other morning and it went through the squirrels head and out his shoulder and into the 2×6 behind him and was pushing the wood open on the back! The poor squirrel was still rolling around on the ground and took two more shots to die.. (not any different than shooting him with my AAs410 in .177, still two or three shots to have them die)..

    So a .25 cal would be a great gun..

    Wayne,
    Ashland Air Rifle Range

  • Anonymous Says:

    Hi B.B.,

    Thanks for the quick reply. I own one of the first 100 marauders, factory preset to 2500psi, so I was trying to see what users and testers of the gun are finding as the optimum pellet manufacturer and weight for the rifle. I understand that alot is trial and error, so I am going for more trial feedback and less error on my part. Any info readers have would be greatly appreciated.

    -Jeff

  • Anonymous Says:

    BB,
    Looks like the Marauder has some competition! I like the adjustable power though on the Marauder. Which one is more quiet?
    Shadow express dude.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    SED,

    The Marauder is MANY TIMES quieter. But there is a large power difference.

    B.B.

  • kevin Says:

    B.B.,

    No link to the Evanix Blizzard S10 on the Pyramyd Air site?

    Thanks for the review. The Marauder just keeps shining through.

    Mr B.,

    What questions did you have about the AA S410 in .22 caliber?

    kevin

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Kevin,

    Oops!

    Thank you! I will link it immediately.

    B.B.

  • wayne Says:

    Jeff,

    My Marauder is in .177 cal.

    I haven't played with the power adjuster yet, but from the factory, mine takes a 2,800 lb fill and shoots down to 1,200 just fine, with a little POI adjustment at the end.. with no valve lock!

    It shoots the med. weight pellets like JSB 8.4 about as good as the 10.3 heavy JSB or 10.6 Kodiak..
    I haven' noticed the groups any better with the 8.4 or 10.3 JSB, both very good.. one hole 1/4" 5 shot at 20 yards indoors..
    The Kodiak open up just a little more… I'll be shooting the 10.3 JSB mostly I think..

    I haven't tested it at 50 yards on paper yet.. but just for fun I went down to the range and knocked down some field targets with ease at 50 yards.. (the blizzard did just as well on the field targets!!)

    Wayne,
    Ashland Air Rifle Range

  • wayne Says:

    SED,

    Like B.B. said.. a big power difference!

    You really can't compare them head to head..
    The Marauder gets three times more shots, is three times more quiet, a lot smaller/lighter and more flexible for uses..

    The Blizzard on the other hand is a hunting machine only.. twenty very powerful shots like a .22lr, with a noise level about like a .22 cb short in a long barrel rimfire rifle..

    Wayne,
    Ashland Air Rifle Range

  • Anonymous Says:

    BB
    You're really tryin to push me into a pcp aren't ya:)

    Matt 61
    Please tell me that you were just checking
    to see if we really read your whole post!
    That sounded more like a comment I might make and I'm not nearly as refined as you.

    ALEX…Alex.Alex.Alex
    I know you don't need me to remind you the number 1 rule is never point at anything you don't intend to shoot and #2 is always treat a gun as if it's loaded,so I won't!:)Now to your observations:1st maybe the pressure from the muzzle is what did part of the damage to you,this wouldn't be present further from the muzzle.2nd A wadcutter has the greatest frontal area not counting expansion of the pellets you mentioned and remember they are used in comps BECAUSE they tear the cleanest hole!
    3rd 650 fps. will easily kill small pests at close range but as always shot placement is the key.This is why so many recommend against it.Just think how an animal not much gigger than your finger
    dicounting fur or feathers would suffer from a non immediately fatal shot.
    4th I don't (think) a hollowpoint would make your finger explode because the hole is too small for enough air to be trapped.
    It might help expansion at that speed though which would still be bad.
    5th And vey important:Do you really want to trust the safety of your family to
    something that won't even reliably stop a mouse without precise shot placement?
    NO TO DEFENSIVE USE!

    And finally,to be a bit morbid:)did you
    recover the pellet?did it expand or deform?Now you have empirical evidence
    of what a pellet will do when it hits skin and bone at X fps.:)

    JTinAL

  • Kiwi90 Says:

    It seems that us southpaws are always getting the short end of the stick. Not that I was shopping for a hunting PCP.

  • Anonymous Says:

    B.B.

    I think Wayne is right that this is a super hunting machine. The Marauder is still tops on my list.

    Utter catastrophe has struck. My IZH 61 broke. I can't believe it. It has been behaving a little strangely with the odd flier, slightly enlarged groups and deviation a little up and right. I attributed this to scope movement, some internal change in zero and perhaps a flinch I was developing with the lighter rifle. Then yesterday, I double-loaded the gun. It's inevitable if you're working the lever fast which I like to do. Maybe one time out of a thousand, I won't quite latch the lever which will swing open indexing the clip; closing the lever will load a second pellet on top of the one already there.

    I fired off the two pellets with a sound that was more like a dry fire. Then, I ejected a clip and loaded a fresh one, and the first shot had a harsh stuttering sound like two pellets going off. The rest of the clip fired respectably with some of the harsh, cracking sound. The next clip was all over the place with the cracking sound more pronounced. It had a broken sound to it, and the pellets deviated as much as four inches from point of aim at 20 feet. I don't see how that's possible with a pellet that makes it out the barrel.

    Any idea what happened? Could PA repair something like this? Are they open for business? If not when would they be? I feel like a samurai without his sword.

    And by the way, whatever happened to Ballistol? That's great stuff, and I recommended it to somebody.

    Alex, why would you need to put your finger in front of a gun to test its air pressure? Wouldn't the sound of the discharge be enough? Sorry to hear about your accident. Will your finger make a full recovery? For self-defense, I would take a self-defense class or read a book on the subject. For home invasion, I would get a shotgun or a heavy caliber pistol.

    JTinAL, not sure I follow you, but I guess I got carried away there. Blackpowder is a trip.

    BG_Farmer, isn't .338 a little heavy for deer? You're not talking the Lapua magnum are you? You have some really cool equipment. A Swavorski scope! What kind of gun is your 45-70? I thought that was a blackpowder caliber.

    Matt61

  • Bub Says:

    B.B. Last week you wrote about the Leapers 1.25-4X24 scope. You mentioned you had tested it on a Umarex Colt M4 22lr. I was wondering what type mount you used. Thank You.

  • David Says:

    B.B. ,
    Just wanted to say thank you for this review on the Blizzard and I will be eagerly waiting on the velocity and accuracy tests. I have had my Discovery for a while now and I really want a quiet repeater now so I have it narrowed down to either the Blizzard or the Marauder. I would also love the Air Arms 410 but the wife says it's a little out of my price range :(

  • BG_Farmer Says:

    Matt,
    Sorry, I was just kidding with my post to Mr. B because he was telling me about people deer hunting with .300mags, which I've seen advocated online along with even more exteme choices. Neither of those calibers is really suitable and the scopes (I made up the Swarovski model, so I don't know if it exists) would be hopeless overkill as well.

    One thing only was true: there are rifles chambered for a modern factory smokeless .45-70 cartridge ; I'm not sure but I think it is closer to .45-90 or .45-100 in blackpowder. The guide gun is a very short, lightweight lever action that should make you think twice before firing a buffalo-hunting cartridge from it.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Matt,

    The move took Pyramyd Air longer than they expected, so they are in the new building but not yet fully settled in. Call them tomorrow and they should be up and running.

    Pyramyd wasn't selling enough Ballistol to make it worthwhile. I now buy mine from a gun store.

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Bub,

    I used two-piece Weaver rings.

    B.B.

  • Anonymous Says:

    B.B.

    Thanks for the info. I'll give them a call as soon as possible. By the way, where did PA move to? Are they still in Ohio? Same town? Too bad about the Ballistol which is wonderful stuff.

    BG_Farmer, your note partly caught my attention because of a new .338 Lapua magnum rifle that I've read about. It's called the Barrett 98, and it looks more or less like an AR-15 with a bolt-action. Accuracy is a half minute out to extreme distances. When I see this in conjunction with the Tubb2000 which has a similar look, I wonder if bolt-actions with AR-15 ergonomics will become a trend. That would clear up the reliability problems of the original platform and take advantage of its accuracy.

    Matt61

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    BG_Farmer,

    The Marlin Guide Gun is developing the same reputation as the Taurus Raging Bull in .454 Casull and the .500 S&W Magnum. Lots of them are coming to market with most of the first 20 rounds still remaining in the box. My friend Mac had one he couldn't give away. The word gets out fast.

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Matt,

    They moved about 4 miles. They are now in a different Cleveland suburb.

    B.B.

  • Kiwi90 Says:

    A bit off topic, but if I wanted to buy a compressed air tank with a 3000 psi output, but didn't want to buy a full size scuba tank, what would be suggested?

    The Benjamin tank on Pyramyd Air has a maximum output of 2000 psi, which (according to my basic knowledge of physics and pressurization) would only fill a gun up to 2000 psi.

    Jake

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Jake,

    You can buy smaller tanks that still hold 3,000 psi. I have two 12 cubic-foot tanks, called pony tanks or buddy tanks and they hold 3,000 psi. Air tanks are available in many different sizes.

    B.B.

  • Kiwi90 Says:

    B.B.,

    Thanks. Just for verification, am I correct about the output limitation?

    Jake

  • Anonymous Says:

    Matt 61
    Just tryin to pick on ya a little bit
    about the republican comment,I'm not
    being serious or tryin to
    start anything,I'm getting too much of
    that over on the Yellow lately.
    Sorry to hear about the IZH hopefully
    it's just an easy to replace mainspring
    kinda thing.Good luck with it.

    BGFarmer and BB
    I agree with the too much gun sentiments
    It's gotten past the point of rediculous.
    I have a friend who doesn't want anything that isn't magnum rated,he even bought a 7.62x54R converted to 34"
    carbine sporter(TALK ABOUT MUZZLE BLAST)
    When he fired it over his truck bed
    (used the side rail as a rest)debris
    flew about 4' in the air:)When I tried to explain how much velocity he was
    cutting off with that short bbl.and the lost energy down range he just said
    "yeah but it sounds so cool".He wasn't impressed with my argument about permanent hearing loss either.
    At least I tried:)

    JTinAL

    P.S at least he's smart enough to think
    my 1377 carbine is really neat:)

  • Kiwi90 Says:

    I may have just sold myself on the Talon SS w/ CO2. I have umpteenthousand tanks from my paintball days, and theres the possibility that I could use my current HPA tank. Plus, with a Leapers 4x scope, it comes in at under $500.

    Sorry to bother, but does anyone know what pellets the Talon likes best in .177 caliber?

  • Mr B Says:

    Thanks Kevin,

    I am wondering about the AA S410 in .22 caliber on both its low and high setting. What is the FPS and group size using CP's and or JSB's on low and high. Also the same questions about any of the heavy pellets you've tried like Beeman Kodiaks, Big Boy Heavy-Weights, Eunjins, or Samyangs.

    I am trying to decide between the AA S410 or Marauder thanks for your help.

    Mr B.

  • BG_Farmer Says:

    BB,
    I saw a guide gun (Marlin 1895G) the other day, and I couldn't believe how light it was, and .45/70 is a thumper:)! One of my brothers has a 336 in .35 Remington, and that is getting towards noticeable recoil in a heavier rifle (I think).

    JT,
    That much muzzle blast could damage bystanders' hearing (even worse than the shooter). One person I know hunts deer with a 7mm magnum and (very) small game with a .22WMR. He won't even consider a non-magnum rifle. In fact, even his 870 (shotgun) is the SuperMagnum model and he always shoots 3 or 31/2 inch shells in it…he definitely reads the magazines.

  • Anonymous Says:

    I was wondering when I could read an opinion of the S10. I have one but no pump to recharge. My scuba tank was empty when my son brought it back. Guess I need a refill and a hand pump to top off. I hope to some day have a 25 barrel installed. But until then I am using Eun Jin 28 gr pellets. I think the heavies are the only way to go. Thanks, Rusty Zipper

  • ajvenom Says:

    I like some of the ballistics of the magnums, but feel there is a lot of use that can be made of a .223, 22-250, 25-06, .270 and 30-06.

    As for deer here we can only use shotguns during the firearm season and a 2.75 to 3 inch 12 guage slug does em good at the ranges we hunt.

    Sometimes I feel magnums are over kill and too expensive for what is needed.

  • Anonymous Says:

    Mr. B
    I checked my S410 with CPs when I first got it. It averaged 952 at full power and 381 at min. power. I never shop for groups a min. power, but lighter pellets do not work well at full power. I settled on JSB Jumbo. They group well at full and half power, but the poi changes about 1 inch at 30 yds.
    MCA

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Jake,

    Yes. A 2000 (or any other pressure) psi tank cannot output more pressure than it contains.

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Jake,

    Try both the 10.5-grain Premiers and the 10.2-grain JSB Exact domes.

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    BG_Farmer,

    I agree that the .35 Rem. has some recoil. It's the heavier bullet it throws.

    B.B.

  • Kiwi90 Says:

    B.B.,

    Do you suggest the higher weight Premiers for lower velocity, increased velocity, or both? Because I figured that since I'd be shooting from CO2, I wouldn't need as heavy a pellet to keep shots in the 700 fps range.

  • Anonymous Says:

    JTinAL,

    I'm actually not very political. I was just intrigued at the notion of comparing the Deerslayer to Dick Cheney. Obviously, the marksmanship is different.

    Thanks for your encouragement about the IZH 61, but I do believe that this gun is really screwed. It doesn't sound anything like the broken mainspring of my B30. I'll be interested to see what PA finds.

    On the subject of magnums, I neglected to mention that the blackpowder seminar included the firing of a small cannon. It was a 6 pounder scaled in half. The ball was like a softball, and the powder charge was the size of a small loaf of bread. The goal was to hit the earth berm 50 yards away which they succeeded in doing. But apparently, these mountain main rendevous have actual shooting contests with these things. Anyway, I thought it was a novelty, but the whole range went gaga, and people had their cell phone cameras out.

    Matt61

  • twotalon Says:

    KIWI

    The CPH have worked about the best for me. Accurate and seem to fight wind better than light pellets. Take note that I use a standard tank with the SS. MV around 840 fps.

    twotalon

  • Anonymous Says:

    Matt 61
    Speaking of cannons:)Have you ever got to
    play with one of those little(desk top size)up to 2 ft.Carbide Cannons?
    Man I love those things!
    I think they can still be bought from some of the novelty suppliers.Gonna
    have to go look for some later this eve.
    see what I can find online:)

    JTinAL

  • Anonymous Says:

    To B.B. or anyone else who has a Benj. Marauder: I am in the process of getting everything together to order one from P.A. and I have a question – I will be getting the Airforce 4-16 x 50 AO scope and Airforce rings. Will the 50MM objective bell clear with medium rings or should I get the high ones? Thanks, David

  • kevin Says:

    Mr B.,

    Re: AA S410 in .22 caliber

    Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

    My gun is at my mountain home and my chrony is here at my city home. I think I threw the printer tape out that I used when I first got the gun. Still have the test certificate that PA did when I bought the gun. The pellet they used for testing was the rws hobby 11.9 grain. First shot 1057 fps and tenth shot was 1035 fps. If I remember, the 15.8 grain jsb's were averaging around 950 fps on the high setting. I never shot the gun on low but shoot it often at the middle power setting (target shooting/plinking). The heaviest .22 caliber pellet I have are the kodiaks. Don't have any super heavies like the eunjins or samyangs.

    After learning fps/ft lbs in the pellets that grouped best and learning the power curve/ideal fill point, I haven't used the chrony much.

    At 30 yards and under the AA S410 isn't very pellet picky. Benchrested I can't tell what the best pellet is. It doesn't like wadcutters in general and doesn't like napier pellets at any distance but cp's, all 3 weights of jsb's and kodiaks perform well. 5 shot groups under 3/8" is common.

    Long distance (50 yards) the 15.8 gr. jsb's on a calm day are as accurate as the 18 gr. jsb's and kodiaks. A little or a lot of wind and the heavy jsb's and kodiaks will edge out the lighter pellets. My enemies are the ground squirrels at my home in the mountains. On Saturday morning I headshot one of these ground squirrels with a jsb 18 gr. at a measured 217 feet. Their heads are about the size of a half dollar. This is not an extraordinary shot for the AA S410. Amazing gun.

    If you would like fps readings on cp's, jsb's and kodiaks I can take my chrony to the mountain home this weekend and report back on full power readings and medium power readings. Low setting is medium to me but I can go under the medium setting a "hash mark" or two if you would like. Let me know.

    kevin

  • Fused Says:

    What kind of accessories do you really need for a pcp? I've read that the hand pump is a bit of an inconvenience, but really ok for long term use. Scuba tanks are more convenient and perhaps cleaner, but don't you need a lot of other accessory fittings to connect it to your gun? If so, does anyone have a typical list? Wondering because these can all add significantly to the purchase of a pcp.

    Also, if you're power adjusting the Marauder, do you need a chrony? Is there a way to do it without? I'm assuming that the settings are not as easy as low/med/high with published average ft/lbs and velocity lists…

  • Fused Says:

    David/Benji Marauder,
    See the link below, It concerns your question exactly.

    http://anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/benjamin-marauder-scope-mounting.html

  • FRED Says:

    Fused,

    here's a very recent link that BB did on SCUBA tanks. It takes you to part 2 and the link for part 1 is here, as well. THis should answer most if not all of your questions as to what you'll need in addition to the tank.

    Alex, heal fast and look at the bright side – yes there is a bright side – you could have been looking down the barrel at the time!

    Fred

    ooh, word verification – rusky – I guess in sympathy for Matt's dead IZH61

  • Kiwi90 Says:

    Fred,

    No link.

    Jake

  • Vince Says:

    I'm a wee bit cornfused…

    I just bought a jar of 'spring tar' from Maccari, and the stuff has the body and consistency of… a normal grease. Nothing at all like the super sticky almost-tar-like-substance that Rich in Mich sells. I'm thinking he might have packaged the wrong stuff.

    Who else has tried it? What was it like?

  • Anonymous Says:

    Fused,

    Thanks for the info, think I'll go with the high rings after seeing the pics of the Leapers 4-16 x 50 on med. rings. You could'nt slide a sheet of paper through that tiny gap.

    Also, on the valve adjustment on the Marauder you may find info by downloading the product manual (pdf file) from P.A., although I'm not sure how you could do it without a chonograph. I've got one leftover from my paintball days, so I'm good to go.

    David

  • BG_Farmer Says:

    Vince,
    The tar I got from JM is thick and somewhat "stringy and tacky" (? for lack of better words). Doesn't look and feel exactly like "normal" grease, but not radically different; I wouldn't have objected to its being called grease instead of tar. Seems to stick to the spring well, though:).

  • Mr B. Says:

    Kevin,

    Thank you sir. Do you think that I can figure around 400fps with the JSB's? I've got a summer cabin that the red squirels like to eat holes in every fall. My best shot was a kill with a Benjamin 392 topped with a forward mounted 2X pistol scope. Knocked one out of a pine tree at 30 yards. Dead when he hit the ground. Good luck with the ground squirels.

    Thanks for the info!

    Kiwi90,

    If you plan to do much hunting with your Talon SS give alot of consideration to getting it in .22 caliber. Mine is a 22 runing on CO2 and it works very well–extremely lethal.

    Mr B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Kiwi90,

    I recommended those pellets that I know work best in the Lothar Walther barrels of AirForce rifles. Though I tested all their models with CO2 for velocity, I never shot them for accuracy, but accuracy usually doesn't change with velocity unless the difference is great.

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Fused,

    Connecting a PCP to an air source is a real challenge. Pyramyd Air offers a service where they make you a universal adaptor that will fit all female Foster quick-disconnect couplings. I recommend getting that. However, if the gun you are buying is a Benjamin, they come set up that way so nothing more is needed.

    Then you make sure that all fill hoses end in a female Foster quick-disconnect coupling.

    B.B.

  • B.B. Pelletier Says:

    Vince,

    These "tars" Maccari sells come in different viscosities. I'm thinking you ordered a thin one.

    The black tar I talk about is extremely thick and tacky. You would have no problem recognizing it.

    B.B.

  • kevin Says:

    Mr B.,

    Re: AA S410 in .22 caliber. "Do you think that I can figure around 400fps with the JSB's?"

    I'm sure with a combination of heavy pellet and adjusting the power lower than medium I can get 400 fps. Why is 400 fps your goal?

    If you're hunting squirrels and are taking shots at 30 yards why not use full power? Do you have neighbors to worry about? If so, then medium power with a heavy pellet that won't over-penetrate seems the solution. What am I missing?

    I think on medium power with the middle weight jsb's (15.8 gr.) the gun was shooting around 750 fps. I'll take the chrony to the mountains this weekend and I'll run a few pellets over a variety of power settings and quit trying to remember what the fps were. Give me some insight into what your goal is and I'll try to provide answers.

    kevin

  • Mr B. Says:

    Kevin,

    My shooting space in the city is very limited, 16 to 22 yards with neighboors on all sides. I don't need or want alot of power when I shoot there, thus my interest in the low end of the AA S410. For me it's like two guns for the price of one, ie, a back yard plinker and a powerful hunter.

    Thanks for taking your time to run the numbers for me.

    Mr B.

  • kevin Says:

    Mr B.,

    OK. I'll find out the recipe (right pellet and power) for 400 fps at the barrel of the AA S410 in .22 caliber over the weekend. Give me an interesting project with the gun. Anything else you would like to know while I have the chrony and gun together?

    kevin

  • ajvenom Says:

    I used JM Heavy Tar/black tar and it seemed to stick pretty well to the spring. Although, I am temped to take a look at the spring. I suppose I could try and look through the cocking slot?

    I checked my jar of moly and heavy tar and the heavy tar is similiar to moly, but slightly thicker, hense a little more tackier. I suppose nowdays people can find more tackier recipes.

    Lighter & clearer greases are good for tighter tolerances and faster results. I do have to say moly is still pretty good stuff too.

    A couple years ago, Jim Macarri had the only site I could find who sold heavy/black tar grease in smaller quantities. I don't see that jim's sight up anymore. Is there a new one?

    If your ever stumped, PA and the Yellow Forum are two good places to start.

    word verification: filum

    LOL!!!!!

  • Kiwi90 Says:

    So I just made a post that disappeared into the internet….

    Mr. B,

    No hunting planned, but I can always buy one of the .22 caliber barrels.

    B.B.,

    Thanks for that clarification. I'll include 10.5 CPHs in my order.

    All,

    Thank you all SO much for all your advice and input, and for sharing your knowledge. It has helped me immensely.

    Jake

    WV: 'squat'

  • Mr B. Says:

    Kevin,

    I cann't think of a thing, but thanks for asking. Enjoy the mountains :).

    Mr B.

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