This report covers:
- shootski
- Best pellet
- Results
- Remove the lawyer trigger spring
- Spring removal
- Assembly
- Trigger pull
- Summary
Today I remove the lawyer spring from the trigger of the Umarex Markpoint air pistol so we can see what affect, if any, it has on the accuracy on the pistol.
shootski
Before I do that I have a special test that was requested by reader shootski. He asked me, “Could you try shooting it unrested using your two hand extra finger technique before any modifications. PLEASE.You have an enviable pistol shooting track record so no chance of embarrassment; just the comparative FACTS.”
“I for one would be interested to see how much the dispersion increases in the hands of a good shooter. This is at best a PLINKER pistol in my opinion and most owners won’t shoot feral soda cans rested.”
Just a word, here. I shoot the pistol rested to eliminate myself from the equation. You want to know how accurate the airgun is—not how well I can shoot it.
Okay, he asked for a test with me shooting unsupported. I read that as standing and shooting offhand with no brace for my arms. I say arms, plural, because I have not yet removed the lawyer trigger spring and I still need to use two fingers to pull the trigger. It was an uncomfortable hold, to say the least!
I seldom shoot a handgun with two hands. I have forced my self to learn to do it over the years because so many people shoot that way now, and I will admit that with a gun that has a good trigger I can do pretty well. But the Markpoint trigger isn’t good as it comes, so this was extremely uncomfortable. I was shaking like a leaf in a hurricane!
Best pellet
I selected the most accurate pellet from the test in Part 3. That was the Chinese Qiang Yuan Training pellet, but only by one-hundredth of an inch. The error in measurement is greater than that, so I could have used the H&N Finale Match Light pellets, as well.
Results
I shot low with all five shots. I had to measure the group with the target still attached to the pellet box trap. As best I can tell I put five pellets into a 3.611-inch/ 91.72mm group at 10 meters. I will say that the fixed open sights are ideal for shooting offhand!
Five Qiang Yuan Training pellets made a group measuring 3.611-inches/91.72mm between centers, when fired offhand from 10 meters.
I could hit a tin can at 10 meters most of the time shooting this way, but it isn’t pleasant. I shake like a leaf. And of course I would have to hold over the target to hit it.
Remove the lawyer trigger spring
I removed the 10 screws and the one pivot bolt that hold the plastic sides of the receiver together. Yes, the pivot bolt must come out, but you won’t cock the pistol when it’s apart, so it’s okay.
No one has mentioned this anywhere but there are two different screw sizes used to hold the Markpoint together. The three in front (the three closest to the muzzle) are thinner and longer. The other seven are slightly shorter, larger and are all the same size. I found this out during assembly after the spring was removed, and I’m trying to save you from doing the same.
There are three screws like the one on the left and seven like the one on the right. They look different in this closeup, but not as much when you see them in real life!
Spring removal
Fortunately, old BB is a pro. He doesn’t need to carefully remove the trigger spring. It just pops out as he examines the mechanism. Perhaps I’ll even find it someday. It’s probably turned into a sock somewhere inside my clothes dryer! That’s a word to the wise, guys. Be careful with that spring if you ever want to see it again!
The Markpoint action. The trigger spring has conveniently hopped out of the gun before this picture was taken.
Assembly
Assembly was the reverse of disassembly, except for the trigger spring popping out.
Trigger pull
Is the trigger pull any better after that spring is removed? Yes, it is. It’s a one-hand trigger now. I do feel considerable creep in the pull, so perhaps some lubrication is in order. You readers would ask me to do it anyway, so I did. I used SLIP 2000 EWL that is proving to be the best slippery lubricant I’ve ever seen.
After the trigger spring removal but before lubrication the trigger pull measured 6 pounds 4 ounces. There was one spot of hesitation (creep) in the trigger as it was pulled.
I lubed all pivot points and contact points with SLIP 2000. Then, after assembly, I shot the pistol 8 times to work the lube in.
After lubrication the trigger pull measured 6 pounds 4 ounces, so there was no change. The hesitation in the pull might have gotten better, but it’s difficult to say. In my opinion, lubing the Markpoint trigger mechanism does nothing. (I’ll come back to that in the next report.)
Summary
This report is getting long, so I will do the next accuracy test on Monday. Stay tuned.
“The trigger spring has conveniently hopped out of the gun before this picture was taken.”
Thanks, BB!
That gave me a much-needed laugh! 😉
Blessings to you,
dave
B.B.
No I would never want to see that spring again!!
“Be careful with that spring if you ever want to see it again!”
Maybe it is time to take out the file and work on the sear angles?
-Yogi
PS Have a nice weekend everybody!
Yogi,
The way this trigger works there are no sear angles to conveniently file. This trigger works by geometry and the lawyer trigger spring doesn’t SEEM to be required at this point. Perhaps as parts wear things will change.
BB
BB,
As shootski said, this thing is for fun, not serious shooting. Maybe now that the lawyer spring is who knows where, you might even be able to hit a feral soda can every shot. That is at a reasonable (read close) range that is. 😉
BB,
That spring will make a jangling when you run the vacuum cleaner over it and then you’ll know where it went ;).
The Markpoint trigger has creep and some amount of sweep, but it doesn’t have to be a bad thing. The way I use the creep is to get on target, begin pulling the trigger and when it moves a little and stops, I think of that as completing the first stage. After the stop, there is no let-up in pressure. Focus, pull a little more and off she goes. It is predictable enough to be a controlled method, for me at least.
Before the spring-ectomy, I shook so much while pulling the trigger that pellets would tumble and hit the target sideways. But it seems to work pretty well now.
Have fun with this one,
Will
BB and tomek
Off subject. On March 14, 2025 tomek replied to your comment about warmup shots to settle down an airgun before shooting for accuracy. I posted the following both in the March 14 report and here.
tomek
This is a late comment but looking back through previous reports I saw your comment about warmup shots. I can confirm your findings. My Ataman, Avenger and Urban PCP’s require no warmup. Even the Komplete doesn’t. My many CO2’s don’t. Not sure about my single stroke pneumatics; more testing needed. All my springers, even vintage target rifles usually need settling down before shooting for accuracy.
Deck
Thanks BB, today’s pearl was “Perhaps I’ll even find it someday.” – I almost sprayed coffee over the monitor when reading it.
I am enjoying this series although I admit to having low tolerance level to bad triggers. Question, are the parts involved hardened steel? It is difficult for me to differentiate between plastic and metal from the pictures.
Wishing a nice weekend for everyone!
Henry
Henry,
The parts are all plastic. The actual sear parts are steel and I assume hardened properly
BB
Hey BB, kind of late to the dance here and I don’t want you to do any extra work on what may turn out to be a “throwaway” but if you can retouch that photo with a “photoshopped” arrow to show where the spring would go, it would be appreciated. So the removal of the spring dropped the pull from 9 to 6 lbs. I got the original figure from part 2. Anyway to reduce the pull another 1 or 2 lbs in your opinion? As for lost springs, ball bearings and tiny screws, like you I’ve used a salvaged speaker coil magnet (about 3″ in diameter) to drag around the floor with a good amount of success. That is, if it stayed in our dimension.
Fred formerly of the Demokratik Peeples Republik of NJ now happily in GA.
Fred,
Okay, Late to the Dance. Go to Part 1 and scroll down the comments.
BB
Ah, Ha! Perfect. Glad I didn’t add measurable to your work load! Have a great weekend.
Fred etc.
I’ve had mine for about a month now, and am starting to get comfortable with it. I mostly shoot suspended cans at around 25 ft in the basement.
I removed the trigger bar spring, lubed the pivot points with Mac-1 secret sauce, and added a minute amount of moly paste to the sear surfaces. The trigger is “acceptable.”
If you do remove the trigger bar spring, the grip safety will not reset when the trigger is pulled if the gun is uncocked. Not an issue, just a note.
Mine was shooting consistently low, so I filed a bit off the front sight. Destructive irreversible sight adjustment, but it worked. I would love a slightly narrower rear notch, and may try to apply something from my tin of random sight parts. But for now, it’s an enjoyable, easy-cocking can cutter at short range.
B.B.,
Thank you!
I hope many buyers will be helped by your demonstration of the difference the soring LOSS can make.
I have provided this TIP before.
I use an EXTRA, EXTRA large Ziploc™ bag on my bench when i open up a gun that i haven’t disassembled before; it has saved me a great deal of kneeling time or magnet sweeps.
shootski
finally took the mtr77sp out again today. i ended up making and trying more aluminum can shims. i got to three on the front sight adjusting it left, as well as three each front and back for the rear sight adjusting it to the right. at that point it was still almost 3/4” to the left of the bullseye and i thought adding any more shims would just be too wonky. i removed the front and rear sight and took the green/red dot off my m4-177, put the irons on the m4-177 and put the dot sight on the mtr77sp. of course just as it was getting pretty close to sighted in the wind picked up and i thought i felt a rain drop. didn’t get a chance to snap an after the dot sight picture but here’s before. i probably could (and should) just trying bending the forks of the compression tube, but taking the many screws out of the plastic shell is time consuming and i’ve done it too many times previously for my liking. the dot sight should work out so i’m alright with it for now