by B.B. Pelletier
Noise is what the new Gamo Whisper is all about, and I’ll address that issue for you right now. I don’t find the Whisper to be that much quieter than any other spring piston air rifle of comparable power. In fact, my tuned .22-caliber Beeman R1, which has no silencer, is quieter because its powerplant makes less noise. The powerplant is where the bulk of the noise of a spring gun comes from, not the discharge at the muzzle.
Gamo claims a 52 percent reduction in noise. If that’s true, the Whisper starts out as one of the loudest spring rifles in existence. I doubt that number.
One customer has posted a product review of the Whisper and said he thinks it’s louder when firing Beeman Crow Magnums. My wife felt that 7.9-grain Crosman Premiers were louder than Beeman Kodiaks. I don’t have a noise meter to test this, but I will try to observe and give you a subjective report, if there is anything report.
I compared the Whisper to both my tuned R1 and to a .177 caliber TX 200 Mk III that was considerably quieter than the Whisper. The Whisper makes a sustained high-pitched buzzing sound that the other two rifles don’t have. It also sounds hollow, where the other two sound more solid.
That said, the Whisper is quiet when you compare it to other Gamos. Only the CFX impressed me as possibly being quieter.
What Gamo SHOULD be saying!
Gamo is missing the boat with the Whisper, because it has some of the nicest handling characteristics of their entire line – none of which they advertise. So, I’ll tell you what they are.
For starters this is the lightest spring air rifle in its power class. The Gamo Shadow has long been a lightweight, powerful air rifle, but the Whisper is even lighter. It weighs just 5.3 lbs., which is almost a full pound lighter than the lightweight Shadow. If this were a bicycle, it would be a high-tech, 16-lb. carbon-fiber road racer that enthusiasts would pay thousands for! How Gamo lets that feature slide is beyond me!
What makes it so light is the extensive use of synthetics. Instead of a fat steel barrel, they have a thinner rifled steel tube surrounded by a plastic jacket. They have fluted the jacket for style points, and it does look attractive. The silencer is a hand-filling plastic muzzlebrake with plastic baffles inside. It makes cocking the rifle so much easier.
It cocks like a dream!
This rifle cocks with 35 lbs. of effort, but the large muzzle brake and long cocking stroke fooled me into thinking it was 10 lbs. lighter. The rifle’s specifications on the Pyramyd AIR website reflects Gamo’s published effort of 30 pounds, so this will probably improve with time. At any rate, this is one easy-cocking breakbarrel!
Great scoping option
The last feature Gamo doesn’t really hype is a beautiful, separate scope rail atop the spring tube. They have come out with a design that should really work. It’s long and has two vertical scope stop holes – one at either end for putting the scope stop pin where you want it. I can’t wait to try it, but the open sights are too nice to pass up. I am going to test them first and then scope the rifle. Of course, this model is sold with a scope that comes unmounted, so I will use it to start my scope mounting series for you.
A sound scope rail with two vertical scope-stop pin holes. That’s what I like to see!
Nice trigger
Gamo triggers have been getting nicer with each passing year. They still have an inordinately long second-stage pull and will never be confused with Rekord triggers; but for the price, they’re very acceptable. Thankfully, the safety is still manual and you can shoot as soon as the rifle is loaded. The length of the first-stage pull is adjustable, but not the pull weight and not the overtravel.
I have more to describe on the rifle, but I must say, the Gamo Whisper is very impressive thus far!
Light is not always good, I had to fill my CFX stock with silicone, because of the horrible balance.
I would never buy any of GAMOs new plastic covered barrels, it just makes the gun look and feel cheap, like a toygun.
Just my 2cents.
BB,
All of the postings and reviews I’ve read about GAMO rifles seem to have a common thread, and that is the dislike of the factory trigger. Most of the articles repeat that the trigger gets better with use, and though I don’t own a GAMO, I have two break barrel springers (probably Turkish) that support the above statement. The triggers do get better with use, but better than what? Better than they were?
I’ve read with interest the many reviews of Bob Werner’s GRT-III trigger, so I broke down and bought two for my springers. Outside of a professional tune, I can think of nothing that will so improve the way these guns now shoot, for such a small investment.
I’m not an agent for Bob, but you know that I will share my experience with you and your readers, good news or bad. Those of you who have tried a GRT-III know exactly what I’m saying.
BB, if contractual agreements allow, get one of these and try it. Let us know what you think. If you don’t like it, I’ll buy it from you.
Regards,
Michael in Florida
Michael,
That name keeps coming up, so I’ll have to see what I can do.
B.B.
BB,
When you have time (hehe)
https://www.charliedatuna.com/GRT_III_trigger_home.htm
Regards,
Michael
Michael,
I was just at his website. Lots of interesting stuff there. I will definitely be blogging him – when I get the time (hehe).
B.B.
BB, I have one of his triggers in my new G-1 Extreme and it is simply wonderful. My groups with this rifle were cut in half. This trigger is the equal, if not better than the Record in my R-10, in my opinion. Regards , Robert in Western N.Y.
i saw in part of the instructions for installing the GRT-III trigger that the “adjustment screw” was removed. what type of “adjustment screw” is this, and how can it just be removed and not replaced without disrupting the functionality of its original intended purpose?
thnx
That question should be directed to Charlie da tuna.
B.B.
B.B.
Kind of difficult to figure Gamo’s marketing strategy. Always seems gimmick oriented.
I put one of Charlie da tuna’s GRT triggers in my Shadow1000 a year ago and i’ll agree that it made a heck of a difference, and is a bargin at the price. It gives a true adjustable 1st and 2nd stage. The factory adjustment screw that gets tossed was supposed to control the 2nd stage, but it never did work, IMHO.
It looks like this is NOT available in .22??
That’s a shame. With the power it has, AND if it turns out to be accurate, the light weight would certainly be nice to tote around in the woods all day.
Pestbgone
52% reduction is not much at all in sound. A 3db (50% reduction) is about the minimum that the ear can normally detect (the detents on a radio volume are usually about 3db). Thus, describing the reduction as 52% makes it appear to be much quieter than it would if it were described as 3db quieter (and, who but engineers would understand dbs?).
Best,
Joe
Joe,
Thanks for that explanation. In that light I guess a reduction of that magnitude is possible.
B.B.
B.B.–Scott298 reporting-in, hope you and your wife had another enjoyable weekend. When it comes to sound -never underguess what a woman can hear. Even under the most impossible conditions, no matter how low you whisper to another hunting or fishing buddy-regardless of what kind of distractions there are of how far away they can be, a woman can pick up on every sylable(almost seems that the creator took more than Adam’s rib to give to Eve) they hear everything! While I have you here what is the lowest velocity/ftlbs you would recommend for hunting small to medium game in 22 cal. It seems that every manafacture who produces a .177 also makes a 22 version using the same power plant. Does there come a time when you are just wasting your money on the .22? Thanks Scott
B.B.–Scott298 reporting-in, hope you and your wife had another enjoyable weekend. When it comes to sound -never underguess what a woman can hear. Even under the most impossible conditions, no matter how low you whisper to another hunting or fishing buddy-regardless of what kind of distractions there are of how far away they can be, a woman can pick up on every sylable(almost seems that the creator took more than Adam’s rib to give to Eve) they hear everything! While I have you here what is the lowest velocity/ftlbs you would recommend for hunting small to medium game in 22 cal. It seems that every manafacture who produces a .177 also makes a 22 version using the same power plant. Does there come a time when you are just wasting your money on the .22? Thanks Scott
Scott,
Don’t get me started on women’s ears!
I would turn your statement around when it comes to hunting and say that most .177s are superfluous if there is a .22 available.
I like a floor of 20 foot-pounds for raccoons, crows and possum. 30 for chucks.
B.B.
B.B, Scott 298 in response to above
AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S. If I wanted to purchace one of the 4 remaining books let me know the cost-we can do this by email–thanks scott298
BB great review
I to can vouch for Charledatunas work. When I was 13 I got a Gamo Hunter 440 for Christmas and I loved the gun. I shot the life out of that gun, literally. After about 5 years, thousands of pellets and a couple of those cheap BSA 4 power scopes the gun was shooting poor at best. I could not stand to part with the gun for sentimental reasons so I looked in to a rebuild. That was when I found Charledatuna and decided to send my gun to him. Well with his tune up, more of a ground up rebuild for mine, and the gtr trigger, I am still absolutely amazed with the improvement and how well its held up for several more years now. He informed me that my gun had slouched to tossing crossman premier lights to 410 to 350fps when he cronod it, well below what she should have been doing. The other great part about doing business with him was the wonderful customer service he provides. Before I sent him my 440 I had talked to him on the phone and corresponded with him via email, where he was always eager to answer my questions and give me advice on what services would best benefit me personally. In my opinion Charledadua�s work is pure vanilla and when I, or one of my friends buy another Gamo it will go straight to him so he can perform his magic right away.
Recently a coworker of mine purchased a Gamo shadow from pyramid air and after firing my Gamo and then His I can say its worth every Penney to send the gun to charledatuna. My gun is quieter, ie far less spring twang, No dieseling and very little metal on metal sounds when being cocked. Also the firing behavior of his gun has much more jump and vibration than my tuned Gamo. Yet the thing that really makes the package is the GTR trigger. All I can say is wow and you will to. When you were use to the creepy heavy stock trigger and get the gun back with this trigger you will never be able to go back. As for my coworker�s gun, it will be going to charledatuna first chance he gets.
BB I can�t wait to see your reaction to what Charledatuna can do for these entry-level guns. I was amazed and I have no doubts that others here can vouch for this as well.
As always you do wonderful work and till next time.
Chase
Scott,
I’m sorry but the book have been packed. If I bring any back from Roanoke Ill let you know.
B.B.
Another big gripe about the Gamo has always been the spring twang – the CFX you got might have been a fluke, as mine is Gamo-average noisy.
Oddly enough, when I replaced the spring and top-hat in my Shadow with Crosman Quest parts (using the Quest spring necessitates a thinner top-hat), the firing cycle got a lot nicer. Why? Because the Quest spring is slightly smaller in diameter and it fits snugly on the guide. Power’s about the same.
Considering the favorable weight, power, and cocking effort of the typical Gamo breakbarrel, I just don’t understand why they don’t address these issues (trigger and twang) rather that fool around with gimmicks like a built-in silencer.
BTW – when “Charlie Da Tuna” and his friend Gene tested the Whisper, I believe they found a significant noise reduction ONLY when using the PBA pellet (which, of course, went supersonic)
Vince,
I am going to test the PBA Raptor pellet FOR SURE, as the Whisper is a 1,200 f.p.s. airgun.
We shall see.
B.B.
B.B.
It turns out that I have been looking at Charlie Da Tuna’s site after hearing so much about him and was very impressed with what I saw, and his email responses to my inquiries are quick and informative. I have no doubt that he is everything that people say.
I have a related question about “tuning” and “accurizing” airguns. Firearms seem to have a great body of information about accurizing rifles by “lapping” the barrel whatever that means, free-floating it, glass/aluminum bedding it, crowning the barrel, tightening headspacing–all sorts of things that you don’t hear about with airguns. Does “tuning” do the same thing or does it have to do more with making the gun quieter, smoother shooting, and more “efficient”? I’m more interested in accuracy than smooth-shooting provided that the rifle isn’t distracting to operate.
Charlie Da Tuna himself wrote me to say that tuning is just one factor among many in accuracy that includes hold sensitivity, pellet selection and the usual. This is fair enough, but I’m still trying to get a handle on how tuning affects accuracy and how all this compares with the accurizing of centerfire rifles. Thanks, as always for your time.
Matt
Matt,
Great question! I will do at least one post, but more likely a small series answering your question over the next few weeks. I’ll be on the road a lot and this is a good subject for that time.
B.B.
Matt,
the airgun tune that bob werner does is for smoother action, and longer spring life, but it also made my gun more accurate(the velocity spread was about 50 before the tune, and is about 5 now, shooting an average of 900 fps with gamo hunters…thats the pellet he uses to test all guns he works on.) it does make the gun much quieter, because all of the parts fit much better, and it shoots more “efficiently”…before the tune, my gun was shooting about 800 fps with 7.9 grain pellets, and as i said, now it shoots 900 with 8.3 grain pellets. it makes shooting much more enjoyable also, because the gun wont bounce as much…my gun is much less hold sensitive now, and isnt as picky with pellets…it actually worked out very nicely with pellet selection…my g-1 extreme shoots jsb predators and exacts at the same point at 20 yrds, so i have it sighted in with a short range, and long range pellet all at the same time, haha. this is probably not going to happen often, so dont expect this, but if you are going to get a gun worked on, bob is the guy to go to.
DED
bb,
i asked the mountain air guys about a fill station for their modded qb78, and this is what they said i need.
The bulk set up consist of a 20oz bottle or bigger + fill station, hose, and foster fittings.
ok, i know a lot about springers, but stuff like this, lol, i have no idea what im lookin for…can i get this stuff from pyramydair, or do i have to go to a paintball shop?
DED
DED,
You can find the 20-ounce tank here at Pyramyd AIR. The “Fill Station” is their term and not one I’m familiar with, but possibly they mean a means to fill the 20-ounce tank? If that’s it, why not just get the 20-ounce tank refilled at a paintball store? I own four CO2 bulk tanks and rather than keep them all in hydro, I just refill at the store.
The Foster filling is here on the Pyramyd AIR website, but Mountain Air needs to tell you what that fitting screws into. They just say “hose” without telling you that it’s (probably) a male 1/8″ BSPP fitting. Then you can get the correct Foster. Otherwise they have told you to buy a pink shoe without telling which foot it fits or the size.
B.B.
Hello B.B.
Kind of off topic, and long, but I need some of your expert advice that we’ve all come to appreciate so much. I’ve been having fun with my Gamo Shadow1000, and B40; learning and experimenting, making mistakes, and fixing things. I’d now like to get a nicer gun that I promise NOT to tinker with.
Here is what I have in mind:
1)Good right out of the box.
2)Reliable and consistent quality.
3)Value is important.
4)Cost is of minor importance.
5).22 cal with enough power to take squirels at 35 yards.
6)Accurate enough for fun target shooting to 50 yds.
7)Mostly target shooting, some backyard squirrel hunting.
8)Relatively easy to shot accurately without applying extraordinary technique.
9)Relatively quiet.
10)Would be used at home (2 acres of yard and woods).
11)Probably not a break barrel, but not sure.
12)Probably not CO2?
13)Probably not a multi-pump?
I know its a long list, and I hope these criteria are not mutually exclusive. Could you possibly suggest a couple of good choices, maybe a PCP and something else (under lever?)? And PLEASE let me know if I am approaching this selection in the wrong way. I only know enough to be a danger to myself.
Thanks for your help,
Pestbgone
Pestbgone,
My vote is for the RWS Diana 54. Second choice is the TX 200. The TX is the nicer-finished gun, but the 54 will keep up with it in accuracy and is a little more powerful.
The TX is quieter.
Of course if this is the time to move into PCP, I have a dynamite choice for you. Among the quietest airguns legally available in the U.S.A. It’s the AirForce Condor.
The CONDOR, you say? I thought that was the noisiest of all smallbore PCPs.
Well, it is, but if you can be patient for about 2 weeks, I have something keen to show you. MUCH quieter than the TX!
B.B.
Thanks, B.B., looking forward to your post about tuning, and thanks DED for your example.
Matt
Jeez B.B.!
You aren’t going to make it easy are you! The TX200 was on my short list and now looking at the 54 more closely, it looks pretty perfect too. So now do I have to buy one of these two in Roanoke and then wait for the “stealth” Condor you are going to reveal in two weeks?! Seriously, the Condor, not the Talon? Sounds like you’ve spilled the beans on something BIG!
You have just bumped my interest up several notches and it may indeed be time to move up to PCP. And since I will almost always be within walking distance of my garage, why not a PCP? I think you are enabling my habit. Which I seriously appreciate.
Thanks very much!
Pestbgone
Pestbgone,
Don’t assume there will be a new TX or 54 at Roanoke. You have to call Pyramyd and schedule it. They are bringing old guns and overstocked items.
There may be other dealers there, but usually it’s more private guys.
B.B.
B.B.,
Thanks for heads-up. Will do.
Pestbgone
Does the Phantom 1000 come with a scope stop or something for a vertical stop pin to go into?
14 in Fla
BB – would it be a conflict to post information about where to get factory refurbished guns? It is a brand that pyramydair carries new, but not refurb.
Vince,
Yeah, a conflict.
B.B.
What would be a good .22 magnum springer more than 800 fps? I’m new to any kind of guns, but I have a .177 beeman that does 1000 fps and was wondering what kind of .22 there were out there.
14 in Fla, My Phantom 1000X did not come with a scope stop. I emailed PA and asked, they said that they do NOT include a stop.
I chrono’d the Phantom this weekend. avg 859fps with 7.9gr Premiers
Ordered a GRT-III for my Phantom.
I really dislike the stamped trigger.
I have a Charlie-tuned B-19 .22cal.
It ncluded a nice 4 page packet with how-to-care-for info and chrono results.
The B-19 may also get a GRT-III.. we’ll see how the it works out in the Phantom.
Is this thing approved by the ATF??? I though silencers were illegal.
It appears that the Quest and derivative guns are no longer coming with scope stops. Instead, they have a hole for a stop pin drilled into the rear of the compression tube, and the scope mounts that come with the gun are supposed to have a stop pin (yes, even the real cheapo 2 piece mounts now are supposed to have a stop pin).
Problem is, apparently some guns have shipped with the stop pin hole in the tube, but with no stop pin in the rear scope mount (like the 800X I recently bought). If you call Crosman (1-800-724-7486) they will send you the proper rear mount free of charge.
Hi BB,
I was shopping around PyramydAir for airguns when I realized that there were distinctions between “adult” guns and “youth” guns. At first I figured it was just power levels as I’d rather hand a 500 fps Gamo Delta to an angsty teen than some power house like an R1 (never mind the price difference!) Then I realized the size of the guns were part of it. I’ve a Remi AM77 which I like just fine but the guns I’m looking to upgrade to are running around 45″ (and are springers.) The reason that this concerns me is I’m a bit of a shorty at 5’5″ on a good day. I was just wondering if the length of the airguns make any large difference in comfort. I mean, I see kids shooting ten pound 10 meter rifles that run around 45″ but I can’t help but feel like I’m about to buy a gun that I’m going to hate shooting from an ergonomic point of view.
as you know i bought a b-30 in .177 well i figured i would tell you about it i think it is really nice way more then i expected but then i went to go shoot it and it would not group at all i tried jsb,kodiacs,crosman premiers ann tomahawk and the shot ok at best so then i tried one last pellet the ram jet and tht pellet was giving me one hole groups at twenty-three yards anyways i think those are very nice pellets and the only reason i bought them was because i needed a 4th tin so that was weird but it is a very nice gun but i dont like the saftey but ill live by the way i tried that relax and close you eyes till your on target tip and it really did help so thanks for that tip
cody
BB,
Regarding Bob Werner’s GRT-III trigger, all I can say is that you will be amazed.
Plus, it is as easy to install as a scope, especially using the excellent PDF file with high quality photos to get it right the first time.
$32, including shipping for that gold trigger is money well spent.
Both of my CFXs wear it, and I don’t regret it for a second.
http://www.charliedatuna.com
Cody,
Welcome to the club.
My .177 Gamo CFX shoots all kinds of pellets well, including Kodiaks, Crosman Ultra Magnum, JSB Exacts, and JSB Predators, but the one that does best of all (0.4″ or less @ 25 yards) is the unsung Beeman Ram Jet.
I love that pellet, and the little ledge around the domed nose nearly always results in a knockdown with even a glancing blow.
Coincidentally, they also produce the most fpe of all other pellets in that rifle (12.5+fpe).
They also seem to not have the extremely fragile skirt that the otherwise perfect .177 Exact has.
I’m just glad that not so many seem to like them as much as I do, so they are always in stock.
=)
Dylan,
Two links with info about supressors on airguns.
/article/Airgun_silencers_What_s_the_big_deal_August_2006/32
http://www.beemans.net/silencers_on_airguns.htm
These both tend to indicate that any form of supression places the owner/user in potential trouble with BATF.
Lots of talk about shrouds/supressors on the RWS Hammerli 850 forum.
I posted there asking about legality.
My posts, and the replys are gone.
One reply basically said “no worries”. Not sure if that person was in a location where they are legal, or if the folks there just don’t know/care. ??
Someone new to the sport who runs across that forum will assume it’s OK based on the amount of talk.
I’d hate to see someone end up in Jail due to lack of warning about potential illegality….. (is that a word?)
Conflicting views have also been posted in this blog regarding silencer legality.
Are the rules (ie. the LAW) clear? – No.
Can you get away with it? – Probably.
Do you want to be the guy whose defense trial clarifies the law? – No.
Thomas L.,
A great magnum springer is the RWS Diana model 48, or the model 52 with a fancier stock. They will shoot at and above 800 f.p.s. with some pellets.
The RWS Diana 350 magnum is another choice, though because it is a breakbarrel it does require more handling technique.
Or you might watch the RWS Diana 460 Magnum test I’m about to do. It should be quite accurate and we’ll see what the velocity turns out to be.
B.B.
Don,
This is important information for me, because the photo shows a flat plate atop the receiver of the Phantom. The rear scope ring is supposed to abutt that plate.
Are you saying there is no plate on your rifle? If so, is there an open screw hole where the plate was anchored?
B.B.
Dylan,
I asked Gamo at last year’s SHOT Show whether they ran their design past BATF and they couldn’t answer me. So the answer is no.
On the other hand, since the “silencer” doesn’t do very much, I doubt BATF is interested. The TX 200 has had the same design on their Mark III rifle for more than 6 years and nobody has complained.
Regarding the law, it IS very confused. And it’s also dangerous, because anyone who diregards it is potentially setting themselves up for trouble.
BATF has no jurisdiction over airguns, but if a silencer can be put on a firearm and work, the owner is guilty of wrongful posession. As my article indicates, people have gone to jail.
B.B.
Vince,
Thank you for that clarification on the Phantom scope stop.
B.B.
Shorty,
I believe the size of the gun and the cocking effort both affect how easily people of smaller stature can use it.
I usually will publish the pull length, which is an important thing to look for. A standard pull (the length from the butt to the trigger) is 14 inches. That’s going to be long for you, so look for fifles with shorter pulls.
Another factor is weight distribution. If there is too much weight out in front, the rifle will be difficult to hold.
Finally there is cocking effort. Short people are not necessarily less strong, but their shorter limbs give them less advantage for things like cocking a spring-loaded lever. So look for rifles that are easy to cock.
The Gamo Whisper I’m testing right now seems to have good dimensions and weight for people of shorter stature. It’s the kind of rifle to look for.
I hope this helps.
B.B.
Cody,
Thanks for the report on your B30. It just proves that you should always try every pellet out there.
I’m glad to hear that the artillery hold is working for you.
B.B.
Scott and everyone,
Pyramyd AIR has contacted Charlie Da Tuna to see whether we can do some business. One way or another I will test his trigger.
B.B.
As for the silencers, BATF cares not for airguns since they are specifically defined as NOT being “firearms”. Their concern, I believe, is when a silencer made for an airgun could be adapted to a firearm. That’s when people go to jail…
To the guy who’s looking for a very strong .22 – the IZH/Baikal MP513 is a bit on the crude, but quite potent in .22 and it’s only $160. Mine is within about 10fps of my RWS48 (which, granted, might be a bit on the weak side). It seems to do Gamo Match pellets at around 780-790, with lighter pellets I have no doubt that it will break 800.
B.B.,
Re. Phantom scope stop.
The Crosman box my gun came in showed the “plate” on top, as did the pictures online.
I mentioned this in my email to PA.
There is a hole on top, but it is not threaded.
I ordered the $10 (I think) Gamo scope stop from PA. The pin in that stop fit.
Hope that Helps..
Don,
Thanks, that does help.
B.B.
B.B.
I am very interested in your experience with Raptors in the Whisper. In my Whisper the spring/action seems to be substantially reduced when firing the Raptors although as noted they do produce a sonic report when fired. My plans have been to quiet the action with a profesional tune to see how quiet I can get it.
LS.
When I called Crosman I pointed that out to them, but they confirmed that despite the picture on the box the Quest guns no longer have stops. Regardless, when I brought it to their attention Crosman sent me the mount with the pin for free. I suspect they’ll do the same for anyone else.
LoneShooter,
I was out shooting the Whisper today. Shot it with Raptors. Maybe Friday?
B.B.
Vince,
I guess it’s easier to change when you want to and address the problem with only those who complain.
B.B.
has anyone tried the Mendoza RM-600 with a chrono? It claims to do 950 fps!
B.B.,
First of all, I want to thank you for revealing who you really are, but I don’t understand why you’d want to hide it though. If anything, it would attract more readers, but whatever.
Now onto the Gamo Whisper question, I noticed that you didn’t put a “Part 1” at the end of the title as you do with most reviews. Does that mean that your gun wont even have a visit with the chronograph? Based on what you seen so far, do you think you’d buy this air rifle?
Viper guy
(Robert in MD)
Viper guy,
Friday.
B.B.
B.B
Rich from Mich. has a trigger insert that will turn a Gamo trigger into a gem.
His advice and now my is to shoot a gamo about 1000 times then do a tune, but fix that trigger soon.
He can be found at the Gamo forum.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/479035/
or his website http://home.comcast.net/~peterdragin/index.html/
My model 347 Benjamin Air Rifle is having troble holding air. Could you direct me in how to oil the gun? Is there a kit? I’ve had the gun since ’78. I’d like to pass it on to my 8 year old, but not if it doesn’t shoot.
Cory,
Turn the gun on its back and open the pump handle all the way. Drop three or four drops of Pellgunoil on the pump piston head that is at the end of the pump slot. Oiling the felt washer behind the piston head aslo works.
ALWAYS store the gun with one pump of air in it!
If it still doesn’t work, this man can help:
Rick Willnecker Contact him at airgunshop@aol.com or call 717-382-1481.
B.B.
Stupid question… Wht buy a Eliminator for about $900 if the fps are the same as a GAMO whisper, for example?…
It has to do with quality. Why buy a Stradivarius if a $400 fiddle plays the same music?
B.B.