by Tom Gaylord
Writing as B.B. Pelletier
ASG CZ 75 P-07 Duty BB pistol with blowback.
This report covers:
- SAO
- Threaded muzzle
- Description
- CO2
- Sights
- Testing plan
- Summary
When I reviewed the ASG CZ 75 P-09 Shadow BB pistol recently, several readers said they owned the P-07 and liked it. Little did they know I had one ready to test.
If you look at the Pyramyd AIR website you will see many ASG CZ-75-P-07-Duty-BB-pistols. This is the all-black one that has blowback. There are guns without blowback that cost less and guns with blowback and extra finishes that cost more.
SAO
This pistol I’m testing is single action only, despite the trigger appearing to be double action. Either the hammer must be cocked or the slide racked before shooting the first shot. I have already racked the slide and can tell that this slide is light. The recoil impulse from the blowback will probably be lighter than with a gun that has a heavier slide.
Threaded muzzle
The muzzle is threaded but the threads are carefully hidden. ASG sent me a silencer to attach to the muzzle. The silencer is not baffled so it is for appearance, only, but I plan to test the accuracy of the gun both with it on and off.
A special key is inserted into the muzzle to unscrew the threaded capo. That exposes the internal threads that the silencer screws into.
The key (bottom) goes in the muzzle (left) to remove the threaded cap. The silencer then threads directly into the barrel.
Description
The P-07 is larger than a pocket pistol but smaller than a full-sized duty gun. Think of it as a backup gun. The frame is full-sized, making the pistol fit an average hand very well. The slide is metal and the frame is polymer, just like the firearm, but they are carefully blended to look like they are made from similar materials.
The bottom front of the frame has a 1913 Picatinney rail for mounting lights and lasers. The 20-shot BB magazine drops free with the push of the release on the left side of the frame. The slide release works as it should and holds the slide back after the last shot. The safety is on the left side of the frame and works easily. No special buttons are needed to release it. There is also a safety lever on the right side of the frame, but it is cast into the frame and does not function.
On the P-07 firearm the safety can also be a decocking lever, but on this BB pistol it’s just a safety. All the controls are positioned to be operated by the shooting hand, if you are right-handed.
The pistol weighs 1 lb. 10 oz. unloaded. That is 26 oz., so it is light for its size, however, the 9mm firearm weighs only one ounce more.
The grip frame is stippled front and rear for a very grippy feel when held. There are no grip panels on either the BB guns or the firearms because the polymer frame serves that function. What would be the panels is also textured rough on both sides.
CO2
As stated, the magazine is a drop-free stick mag that holds 20 BBs. The follower will stay locked down and BBs are fed into the top rear of the magazine.
The CO2 cartridge installs through the backstrap. Push up on what looks like a small lanyard ring in the bottom rear of the grip and lift the backstrap up and off.
The backstrap comes off to install the CO2 cartridge.
Sights
The P-07 does not have the traditional three white dots that most defense weapons have. Instead, the entire rear notch is outlined and the front sight dot fits in the notch when sighting. I may have more to say about it when I shoot for accuracy.
The rear sight has a white outline.
Testing plan
I am not going to buy a firearm to test alongside this BB pistol. I’m already doing that for several other airguns, so this will be a straightforward 3-part test, unless something unexpected pops up.
Summary
So far I am impressed. Apparently there was a meeting in the BB gun manufacturer world and everyone decided to make their guns as realistic as possible. I like the trend. Now let’s see if I like the gun!
BB
Really glad they put ” MAX 2 JOULE ‘ on it and highlighted it as well. I’m sure the real thing has the same info on it We can all rest well knowing that police will not shoot someone who happens to point it at them but then again that 9×19 engraving may take precedence. Or … there may actually be someone who really cares about that.
Do people at ASG take turns on who decides what they highlight and print on airguns ? Or do they just flip a coin ?
Tell me it’s a removable sticker.
Bob,
You noticed that too ehh? 😉 Maybe micro Joule units? A bigger number is more impressive, right? The same could work for FPE. We can use IPE,… (inch pound of energy)? Or,.. a fine tip Sharpie? 🙂
Good Day to you and to all,… Chris
Chris,
I would rather use IPA.
R.R.,
;^)
In the top picture you can just see a square outline on the right side of the Max 2 Joule. I think it’s a sticker.
Cstoehr
Looked at a close up pic in the Action Kit offer with P/A, dot sight, rail mount and flashlight and I now agree with you, tape. Perhaps they really have been listening 🙂
Charles,
It was a sticker and it came off by itself.
B.B.
As I recall, ASG placed similar stickers on the Dan Wesson revolvers.
When I read this blog today, I thought this ASG CZ P-07 must be a new pistol this year. However, Pyramyd AIR has customer reviews going back to 2014. When was this ASG CZ 75 P-07 with blowback originally released?
The “max 2 joules” is a sticker that peels off.
ASG air pistols don’t spoil the look of their air pistols with bright white text like Umarex and Crosman have done.
BB,
You probably use the same key to tighten the CO2 cartridge, do you not? Looks to be a hex head.
RR,
I am not sure and I’m still in New Hampshire, so I can’t check. But since the silencer is an option and the key came with it, I wonder.
B.B.
B.B.,
I recall that that faux suppressor is compatible with a host of ASG manufactured air pistols.
Michael
B.B.,
Well, I thought I should look it up, so I got my lazy mouse finger into gear and came up with this:
“SG Universal Fake Silencer, Aluminum, Fits Select ASG Pistols: CZ, Steyr, STI & Bersa CO2 BB Pistols” (“Fits select ASG CO2 BB pistols: ASG Steyr M9-A1 dual-tone (does not fit the all-black pistol), ASG CZ 75D Compact, ASG Bersa BP9CC, ASG Bersa Thunder 9 PRO, ASG CZ 75 P-07 Duty, ASG CZ P-09 Duty and ASG STI Duty One) (does not fit airsoft guns)
12mm external threads
Aluminum
Black
4.62″x0.75”
Michael
B.B.,
Here’s a photo of the moderator after someone tried to shoot an Airsoft “BB” through it. ;^) (JOKE.) Oh, the humanity!
Michael
Michael,
That is a prime illustration of ignorance in action though. My guess is that happened during filling. There was likely oil in or on the foster fitting and when the O2 contacted it there was spontaneous combustion. Imagine what would have happened if this did not happen until the trigger was pulled.
RR
Also if you notice when you fill a PCP gun it builds heat in certain areas of the air resivoir or bottle.
That’s where the combustion is likely to take place. Usually it’s from a restricted area. Like right after the fill fitting or down farther where the gauge is placed.
When you fill a PCP the next time touch the air resivoir or bottle in different places right after you fill. It might not be hot. But there will be a place that’s warmer than the rest of the resivoir or bottle.
That’s where things will start to happen. And also that’s why petroleum based oils shouldn’t be used in a PCP.
I bet if you mixed a petroleum based oil with oxygen in a high compression cylinder it would be like a very big explosion like a diesel engine. Basically the cylinder can only hold so much compression. That’s why diesel engines are so beefed up in the block in heads compared to gasoline engines. They would go boom also. There is always a weak link in a system. If you push it you will sooner or later have catastrophic falure somewhere.
B.B.,
There is a lot that I like about this air pistol (from reading and pictures as I don’t own one).
First, it seems to be a great size overall, a Goldilocks pistol, not too small and not too big.
Second, it sure does look cool!
Finally, while I don’t like curved triggers, I do very much like the ample space in front of it inside the trigger guard. I know that makers such as H&K tout this excellent detail as allowing gloved fingers to get in there, but even without gloves I have such thick fingers, I am almost unable to get my finger into the trigger guard without having disconcerting contact with the trigger blade. So, hey, gun and air gun makers, follow that lead!
The downside is the non-functional right-side safety. Everything else looks like it could be reasonably operated by a lefty’s trigger finger, but that lack of realism is a bummer.
Does the faux safety at least have enough depth that one can put a thumb on it to better control muzzle rise?
I will read your reports on this one with heightened interest.
Michael
Michael,
Yes. Both safeties stick out the same amount, so the right side can be used as a thumb rest.
B.B.
Michael
They may have killed two birds with that straight trigger guard. It seems to work pretty well with operating the optional flashlight that comes with the Action Kit. Looks like they butt together. Smart move there.
Bob M
B.B.,
I almost forgot. The bore axis seems nice and low, too. It seems a lot of designers are doing that now. (Good.)
Michael
BB
How’s the field trip going?
Hopefully exciting.
I love these realistic BB pistols that have shown up recently! I’ve been using them for backyard practice as an alternative to a trip to the range and using them to teach my kids and their friends the fundamentals of handguns.
I am concerned that these are going to get “airsofted” very soon. Somebody is going to use one to rob the local liquor store or something and the press (as usual) will make a big deal about how they’re “just as deadly” and “indistinguishable from” an actual firearm. Then we’ll get all manner of ridiculous laws requiring the manufacturers to reduce the realism and otherwise hobble their replica models. It’s the cynic in me, but I see this as being inevitable in today’s political climate. Better grab these while they’re available! (Hopefully the new laws won’t make us into criminals for possessing the “pre-regulation” models too).
RC,
Welcome to the blog.
There is every reason to believe this was an airsoft pistol that was converted to BB.
B.B.
To All,
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Siraniko
I would not be too concerned. I am sure that there will be an add-in extension to replace the built in RSS reader.
The white marks on the sights are the same as those on the new Glock 19 BB pistol. I like that.
What goes around, comes around?
One of the selling points on the S&W Mod 27-2 I bought a few years ago was that it was set up with the “state of the art” white outline rear sight and a red ramp front sight.
Larry from Algona
HELP!!!
BB/anyone: I just received a Crosman Remington SAA 1875 pistol. Through much difficulty I managed to remove the cylinder. But now I cannot get the base pin to go back all the way in/it sticks out an inch. The directions say to push in the base pin screw (button) and the base pin will snap back into place, but the button does not push in any more.
Nice pistol but if I can’t get it to operate as described in the manual I will have to return it.
Joie,
I can’t tell what is wrong, but it sounds like the spring inside the button got hung up and is binding.
B.B.
BB,
I believe you’re right. The button was extremely difficult to push in from the get go. And no one else was complaining about it.
Anyway, I finally got the base pin to seat all the way by jiggling with it. There is no earthly reason other than curiosity why anyone would want to remove the cylinder, other than a stuck projectile. So if it shoots OK tomorrow I suppose I’ll keep it. i bought it because of the price and availability. And because Boss used it in the movie, Open Range, one of my favorites and the most accurate portrayal of a western and its firearms I’ve found. Also because the Umarex Colt SAA with a 4 3/4″ bbl has yet to appear (*SIGH*). [Watched The Sons of Katy Elder on TV a few nights back, where John Wayne gets 12 shots from a 6-shot Colt SAA. Or that idiot western where the whole town turns its SAA Colts on Doc Holliday, only none of them are cocked and no one’s thumb is anywhere near a hammer.
I replaced the cylinder (didn’t make that clear in my last msg) and that’s when the base pin didn’t go in all the way.
What good is it if the BB pistol LOOKS like the firearm version if it doesn’t ACT like the firearm version. Why wouldn’t the manufacturer make it DA / SA like the firearm? Why wouldn’t they give it the decocker like the firearm? And, why not increase it’s realism by making a faux magazine that holds both the BB’s AND the CO2 cartridge like the Sig 226 BB pistol? To me, the value of this BB pistol is as a training aid, but the manufacturer missed the mark by taking low-cost short cuts instead of doing a complete job.
Motorman
St. Louis, MO