Just in time for Christmas, three new Crosman airguns!
The Nightstalker is here!
I held off reporting on this new rifle until it became available, because I didn’t want to disappoint anybody with something they couldn’t buy. The Nightstalker isn’t just a new model – it’s a completely revolutionary TYPE of air rifle! Crosman bills it as the world’s first true semiautomatic pellet rifle, but of course there are a few others, such as the Drulov DU-10 Eagle, and all the biathlon target rifles made by Steyr and Haenel. But the Nightstalker is affordable! That’s the news. Although the suggested retail price is higher, Pyramyd will have them for just $109.99!
True semiautomatic airguns are very special, because lead pellets don’t like being fed through mechanisms. Even the manual bolt-action repeaters get jammed sometimes, so imagine what can happen when gas does the feeding in milliseconds! Crosman is an innovator in semiautomatic feeding, though. Their model 600 pistol is a classic airgun! I feeds so smoothly that you can’t tell it’s happening. That frees up the trigger to be lighter and crisper. Unfortunately, the 600 went out of production in 1970, so I hope they carried the idea forward into the Nightstalker!
Crosman’s 600 semiauto .22 pellet pistol fired 10 shots as fast as you could pull the trigger. No wonder they bring $200 to $300 on the used market today!
Isn’t the Crosman 1077 a semiauto?
The venerable Crosman 1077 looks like a semiauto and does shoot 12 shots, each with just the pull of the trigger, but it’s really a run by a clever revolver mechanism. Each trigger-pull has to also advance the cylinder, and that makes the trigger-pull longer than it would be if all it were doing were releasing the hammer. (Read about it in the post Expand you hunting opportunities with this great CO2 rifle!) That’s what makes the new Nightstalker so exciting.
I haven’t tested one yet, but Crosman is supposed to have a Nightstalker on its way to me. When I get it, you will hear my take on a remarkable new rifle that could potentially set the airgunning world on its ear!
The Commemorative 760 Pumpmaster
The 760 Pumpmaster was created in 1966. It is based on the powerplant of the famous 130 pistol that I reviewed for you on September 19 (see the post Another oldie – Crosman 130). Airgunners love their 760s and many of you grew up with this being your first gun of any kind. I read comments from older men whose eyes still mist up when they speak of their first love. Now, you can get a commemorative edition of the famous 760 that marks the 11 millionth rifle sold! Only 1,500 will be made, so for gosh sakes don’t miss out!
Pyramyd AIR won’t get them all, so get yours ordered before the rest of the world discovers it. I know Daisy sells out of their commemoratives in months and even weeks, and they sometimes make 2,500 of them! Crosman announced a list price of $99.95, but Pyramyd has them for just $79.99. Buy several and speculate like the collectors do, but act quickly!
A brand new Remington rifle from Crosman. The Summit is beautiful, powerful and comes packed with features.
The Remington Summit
Here is a new model from Crosman. It carries the Remington name and it comes with a wood stock, adjustable sights and trigger, AND a scope! It should be available for the holidays, though I believe it will take a little longer than the other two guns. It offers 1,000 f.p.s. velocity in .177 and retails for $250.
Well, there you have three new airguns to dream about. This IS the start of dreamin’ season, isn’t it?
I have the the gamo pt80, it uses that same revolver mech. it’s just plain too tough at the trigger too.
I saw that Crossman come up a little while back…I almost did get one. with only 1500. She may just have to be my fist limited ed.
B.B.,
I got a Crosman 1077 some time ago and I really have never been able to make it work reliably. I truly dislike the amount of effort it takes to fire and although I have tried many types of pellets, fired it more slowly, warmed up the CO2 tank, etc. I can never be sure it will fire at the same speed or hit the target in the same place with each subsequent shot. It has generally turned me off on CO2 guns so I backed away from them when I bought my first pistol. I am considering getting a Colt M1911 mainly because it appears to be close to the the real thing in weight, etc. and I would like to use it for off firearm range training but the CO2 aspect makes me hesitate. Any suggestions or comments?
CWI
Same here Doc…I just try to think of it as weight training for my trigger finger, wrist and forarm. If you can hold steady pulling a 7lb trigger… for 3/4 of an inch you mught have great muscle control for a good trigger.
What did you think of the Kodias vs the Logun pellets in th SS?
turtle;
I like the Kodiaks but they consistently shoot slower initially than the Loguns although they are about the same weight. The big advantage for the Kodiaks would seem to be the price. Have not recently shot a varmit with anything so I don’t know how they will work out in practice. Raccoons are fairly smart and they no longer spend much time in my vicinity. I’m sure they will return and at that time I’ll give you an update.
CWI
CWI,
The 1077 becomes better with use. Actually the gun changes trigger pulls with every large magazine you load. I’ve seen some bad ones, but I have several that I consider okay. It isreally just a double action only revolver, so there is always that to contend with.
The S&W 568 (trigger and accuracy) will outshoot the 1911A1 in an Umarex gun. The Drulov DU-10 will outshoot them both.
B.B.
Doc. I may have to try them then, same weight but faster sounds real good. It may be that the last few sleves of Kodiaks that came thru were super heavy. I had most pellets from 21.6gr to 21.9gr in an even spread with a few 30gr. The last lot I got a few months back were much lighter most @ 21gr to 21.5gr with not too many higher.
I purchased the Remington Summit locally a few days ago and have put about 150 pellets through it.
First off, this is the most expensive airgun I’ve shot so I can’t and won’t compare it to $200+ models.
However, this thing is a beauty. Out of all the sub $200 airrifles I looked at, this one wins cosmetically hands down. Gorgeous polished wood stock and nice checkering.
The scope is very adjustable with parallax adjustments and 3x-9x adjustments.
I won’t consider myself a decent shot, so I can’t make any claims on marksmanship, but it shot plain ol’ Crosmas .177 wadcutters just fine. Hit the bullseye at 30ft repeatedly when my arms weren’t shaking.
Cocking pull and trigger pull are both getting easy the more I shoot it. I guess break barrels need a break-in period?
Don’t be afraid to compare the Summit with more expensive guns..it can hold it’s own!! Just picking this thing up can get you a semi-chub. The kick you feel as it hurls that pellet down-range is amazing! Shredding targets from 45-60 ft is as easy as pie. I own several full caliber guns and several shotguns and I am proud to put this Summit next to any of them…
LOVE TO PLINK!!!!
BB,
How would the Remington summit compare to Gamos in the same price range, like the shadow 1000?
Crosman/Remington/Benjamin breakbarrels don’t seem to be as popular as Gamos, so I was wondering if there was any reason for this- I’ve noticed that a lot of product review sites have hundreds of Gamo reviews but only a few for Crosmans.
Gamo has made breakbarrels for decades. Crosman only recently began importung breakbarrels and rebranding them.
I think the Summit will compare well to any Gamo except the CF-X.
B.B.
bb
I need some help.
I pulled out my 600 and tried to use it. This unit hasn’t been fired in years. It is in the boxand well cared for, but when i tried to put in the gas, it was very hard to screw in the cap and when it finnaly did puncture, it leaked out. I tried it two times but no success. I also found a little rubber bushing in the box and tried to do it with the bushing over the neck of the cartridge. still no luck. Any ideas…. I have a racoon that is in need of a little discouragement.
Tim
Tom,
When a 600 dumps gas fast, it needs new seals, no question.
Here are some places that can do the jobh:
Rick Willnecker Contact him at airgunshop@aol.com or call 717-382-1481.
Mac-1 http://www.mac1airgun.com 310-327-3581
B.B.
My Remington Summit (Model: RW1K77X, N06X01187) has been a stellar performer for almost a year. Sighting it was an act of patience, but only took a few hours.
Last night, whilst stalking elusive prey with my Summit, I encountered a disconcerting problem. With the safety “on” the rifle let-loose a shot without bump or jostling. I attempted to cock the rifle (safety still “on”), and with the barrel in the open/cocking position I was ready to place a pellet when the mechanism released, sent the barrel arcing upward into my collar bone, and from then on would not cock at all.
Today I was attempting to troubleshoot the issue when one of the pins in the barrel cocking lever mechanism broke and fell to the floor (clearly a secondary problem to the cocking problem of staying cocked). It appears to me that the mechanism for holding the piston/piston spring is the primary problem.
I carry all of my rifles with the safety on and I do not disable the safety until I am on the verge of squeezing off a shot. This rifle verifiably let-loose a shot with the safety “on” and with no more “jostling” than normal, careful walking. The rifle was not hit against anything; it simply let-loose.
Thankfully I was raised with proper gun etiquette, else this could have been another statistics story. However, the problem remains…the rifle is clearly broken, and I’m curious to know if others have encountered this type of problem with these break-barrel type pellet rifles.
This Summit is well cared for and is fairly low mileage. Who can I take/send it to for reliable repairs? I am hoping that I purchased something that is capable of being fixed instead of “recycled.”
Wally
Seattle, WA, US
justwally@mousemeadows.com
Wally,
You have a serious problem that you need to refer to Crosman right away.
http://www.crosman.com
B.B.