by B.B. Pelletier
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The Dan Wesson CO2 BB revolver with the 8-inch barrel is a large and impressive all-metal airgun.
Several of you have mentioned wanting to see a review of this BB revolver, plus the customer reviews are quite good. And I also wanted to see how good it was, so everything came together today.
This Dan Wesson revolver resembles the classic firearm somewhat, but misses the mark of being a perfect replica. However, only a Dan Wesson nut would spot the flaws.
The cylinder latch is made like the one on a Smith & Wesson instead of the traditional Dan Wesson, which would be a flat button located on the left side of the crane. I never liked how that latch worked, which kept me from ever owning a Dan Wesson revolver, and the omission looks like an improvement to me.
It has a safety!
Flying in the face of firearm revolver design, but validating every female British mystery writer ever born, the Dan Wesson revolver actually has a safety catch. So, Agatha Christie was right after all. Pull the cylinder latch straight back and the gun is on safe. The trigger is blocked and the hammer cannot move.
Yes, Virginia, this revolver has a safety catch. Slide the cylinder latch back, and the action locks up.
This revolver comes in 2.5-inch, 4-inch, 6-inch and 8-inch versions…and some come in black and others come in a stainless finish (that Pyramyd Air is calling “silver”). Only the 8-inch version was available when I ordered, so that’s what I’m testing.
Let’s start off with some insight into the Dan Wesson revolver concept and the history of the gun.
Dan Wesson was founded in 1968 by Daniel Baird Wesson II, the great-grandson of one of the two founders of Smith & Wesson. His concept for revolvers was the modular approach, which in 1968 was quite new and innovative. And the hallmark revolver that company made was the .357 Magnum model 15-2, which in its highest form was sold in a “pistol pac” that contained the revolver, an extra set of grips, three extra barrels of different lengths that the owner was expected to install, a belt buckle and the wrench and feeler gauge for the barrel and shroud. When I was a young man, this was one of the most coveted handguns on the market and was revered for its strength, beauty and for the facility to change barrels and therefore also control the cylinder-to-barrel gap. The only real reservation I had, as I mentioned, was the cylinder latch that was hard to work and a deal-breaker for me.
The Dan Wesson name passed through a number of hands since the founder’s death in 1978, and today they produce several other models that are not as distinctive as this revolver system. So, the BB gun we’re now testing is supposed to copy the original firearm that had interchangable barrels, though this one does not.
The BB gun
Rejoice, fellow airgunners, for this is an all-metal revolver! You pay for that realism — and it’s delivered. Nothing on the outside of the gun but the grips is anything but metal. Still, the gun is very light for having such a long barrel. It weighs 2.29 lbs. or about a full pound less than a typical firearm with the same length barrel.
The cylinder is mounted on a real crane that swings out to the left side when the cylinder latch is depressed and the cylinder is pushed out. Twenty years ago, such realistic features were only dreams for airguns and even for some lower-priced rimfires. Since it does swing out, you’ll need to restrain yourself from flipping it closed like you see on TV, as nothing will ruin the mechanism faster.
This revolver has a real crane that allows the cylinder to pop out for loading.
The cylinder revolves freely when the gun is not cocked, being restrained only by a spring-loaded barrel that pops into a mating recess in the front of each chamber, just like the S&W M&P R8 BB revolver that Mac is testing for us. The bolt at the bottom of the frame comes into play only when the trigger is pulled, so the gun locks solid when fired either single- or double-action. In this respect, it’s not unlike a suicide special revolver of the late 19th and early 20th century.
The gun comes with a second set of six “cartridges” that hold the BBs and a speedloader to load them into the cylinder. The speedloader does not do the job like its firearm component. The cartridges are not held in the loader at all and will fall out if it is tipped past level, so it’s more for looks than for function. You can’t carry a loaded speedloader in your pocket the way you can with a firearm speedloader. However I did find it very convenient for unloading the cylinder, as all the cartridges fall back out into the loader when the gun is tipped up. Since there is relatively low pressure running through each cartridge, they do not swell when fired as firearm cases do.
The speedloader with six extra cartridges comes with the revolver. Also included is the accessory rail and installation wrench.
The sights are a post on a ramp at the front with a white dot in the top center and a traditional square notch at the rear. I find them easy to acquire, and good for precision aiming. I hope the gun is as accurate as most of the reviews claim. The rear sight is adjustable in both directions with a flat-bladed screwdriver.
The revolver is also provided with an accessory rail that takes the place of the rear sight. You can mount a dot sight on your handgun with this rail.
The double-action trigger-pull ranges from 10 lbs., 8 oz. to 11 lbs., 8 oz. and is stiff and creepy. It stacks towards the end. As I recall, the double-action pull of the firearm was also heavy and stiff. The single-action pull breaks between 7 lbs. and 7 lbs., 13 oz. and is reasonably crisp. Though it’s a trifle too heavy for the absolute best work, it’s very usable.
One look at the manual tells me this revolver was made by an airsoft manufacturer. The details are sparse and the print quite small, with line drawings to accompany the important points. Older owners will have to use a magnifying glass to read it, but I don’t suppose they’re the target consumer for this revolver.
Well, if I were Full Ruler and Controller, I would make up some sort of pistol pac for this revolver. That’s such a great idea, and you know that owners could never tolerate having an empty slot in a case for their favorite airgun!
Since the barrels cannot be changed, I would include a nice miniature holographic dot sight, two full speedloaders with six additional cartridges (24 cartridges in all when you include the ones in the gun), some kind of neat case for BBs, a belt buckle and safety glasses.
I’ll show the BB cartridges and how they’re loaded in detail in Part 2 when I test velocity. For now, back on your heads — the break is over!
80 thoughts on “Dan Wesson CO2 BB revolver: Part 1”
Between the Dan Wesson, the S&W M&P R8 and the Crosman 357w. it seems at least on paper, the Crosman is the better revolver and that includes the price.
“For now, back on your heads — the break is over!”…. I wonder how many folks “got” that reference! 🙂
The Dan Wesson is a great looking air gun. I’ve been wondering about the accuracy.
That’s a line from a cartoon strip. I don’t recall exactly when I first saw the toon, but I believe it was either the 1960s or 1970s. Tom had never heard it before until recently when one of his local gun buddies used the line & told him what it meant.
If you’re unfamiliar with the cartoon or never heard the line “back on your heads,” here’s a site that explains it:
lol – I remember this joke now – slightly different than when I remember it from late 60’s early 70’s. Let me be the first to wish everyone – Edith, BB, long-time posters and lurkers, a happy thanksgiving.
That is a great joke. My mother taught me that one. It just goes to show just when you think it’s bad, things could be worse. Uplifting huh?
It is good to know a few good clean jokes….wait is that a clean joke?
There’s a version with more colorful wording unsuitable for this family-oriented site. The link I provided is G-rated, which is why I picked it 🙂
The funniest joke on earth ( to me ) is “the pig farmer joke.” It is so dirty that I am reluctant to tell it to just about everybody I know. And, unfortunately, I know some dead beat, derelict, low-life SOBs. This joke would make most of them blush like school girls. Tasteful sophisticates, such as myself are delighted by the joke’s subtleties.
It is good to know some good, clean jokes. They are getting hard to come by.
Thanks for restraining yourself & keeping it clean on the blog 🙂
No sheep jokes???? Well crap!!!!
Hi All, Long time “lurker” first time “poster” . I read this blog every day and have learned so much from BB, and all the posters. You do a tremendous job. I have this revolver, the comment about the speed loader. “‘The cartridges are not held in the loader at all and will fall out if it is tipped past level” . On my speed loader if you push in on the knob and turn it the cartridges do lock in. I’ just wondering if they changed it.
And THIS, my friends, is why having lots of smart readers is so important. He’s right about how the speedloader works. I will mention this in the next report and attempt to show it, as well.
Thank you very much, and welcome to the blog!
Yes, the speedloader works. The cartridges were held in place after I pushed the knob and turned it. Thank you, Sturge. I received my 8″ DW just a couple of days ago. I was so impressed with this BB gun that when I saw the availability of the 6″ silver, I immediately ordered one.
The 8 inch seems too bulky for me, when I was younger I bought the “silver” (more like grey) 357 from Crosman in 8 inch which I liked very much then but now that I’m all grown up (kinda) I would settle for something smaller, I like the 4 inch either in black or stainless, I’m not sure yet.
Here is the manufacturer page about it : http://www.actionsportgames.com/view-product-219.aspx?productid=16181@@SHOP1&backPageID=211
The original pistol pac with the extra barrels is AWESOME! I would buy that thing in airgun in a heart beat.
I love little “kits” that come in hard cases, it doesn’t get dirty and no one messes around with them, it’s all safe and craddled by the foam inside.
Here is a link for all machinist and fans of small and accurate things : http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/
it’s a very, very small (as in fits in the palm of your hand) V-12 engine made by an old machinist. It’s really worth a look.
Pyramyd Air has the 2.5″, 4″ & 6″ versions. We just got them in the warehouse yesterday and will activate them as soon as images are uploaded to the site. We’ve already got extra shells & an extra speedloader that comes with 6 shells:
Ha! Ha!, Never heard that one! I can’t imagine that in a cartoon strip, maybe a late night at the local watering hole though.
That’s amazing. 1220 hours in it, some hobby!
I don’t read spanish too well, but did I see It runs on water? It looks like it’s running on air pressure There was no electronics, or spark plugs and I did not see spent gasses from the exhaust pipes, so I’m counting out any type of fossil fuels.
J-F,to say I enjoyed that link immensely would be a gross understatement.Just fantastic dedication to excellence! I am in awe of the execution.I wonder if He would blueprint my first year Chrysler 440?!
I have a hard enough time finding a qualified mechanic for “old school technology”.This guy has probably forgotten more about internal combustion than my last three mechanics! I loved those tiny manifolds……and how he broke it in with a cordless drill!
That is an amazing little engine. Ever since I was a kid building model cars, I’ve fantasized about something like that.
It doesn’t appear to be really “running” on internal combustion. Apparently, it is powered by the introduction of a pressurized (and, presumably, expanding) gas. It is still missing a few important systems, like a cooling system and a pressurized oiling system. No ignition or fuel system either.
Wonderful achievement of machining, just the same. I would think the most difficult part would be building the valve train. A pretty interesting one, too, with dual block-mounted camshafts. All dual-cam engines I can recall have them mounted in the cylinder head. Possible exception: the late 20’s Lincoln V-8’s that were basically two Model A inline 4-cylinder engines sharing a common crankcase.
Also interesting was the use of individual cylinder heads. I suppose this was to avoid complicated castings. Reminded me of the EMD Diesel engines used in locomotives.
All in all, a very cool thing!
Yes, a twin cam pushrod engine. It sounds like a first to me. The guy could have built a V8, or V6, but no he built a 12 cyl! And the valvetrain fascinated me, as well.
I went back and looked at the video again. At 7:30 he is installing what looks like a water pump and proceeds to add a water tank above it. The words are in Spanish, Portuguese, or Italian, I can’t tell, but I’m sure they refer to ‘coolant water’. So there must be water jackets in the block. Also notice the offset cam on the face of the crank. I’m not done looking at this thing yet, It’s just amazing!
It seems to be running only on air, but just the fact that it’s sealing well enough to make it all work is enough an achievement for me, I would have liked it if he would have put a piece of tissue or a flame behind the small exhaust to see if there was an actual exhausting of the air.
Oddly enough, everyone I have shared this link with is fascinated with it and like me are trying to figure out if it’s running on something, or being operated by air pressure. No compression ring in the pistons, and as easily as they slid in the cylinders makes me question it making compression. The bottom line is that it’s awesome to look at and the craftsmanship is incredible.
If there isn’t that much friction, even moderate air-pressure would be sufficient to keep it moving… After all, an “air duster” is capable of spinning the blades on a desk fan…
ADDENDUM: especially since, if the pistons are not sealed to the cylinders, then there won’t be much pressure during the “compression” stroke… In essence the “intake” stroke if given pressurized air would drive the piston down — what a real engine does in the power stroke.
Thanks guys I was happy to entertain you a little bit with this little engine. It does seem to be working on pressured air which means it must sealing fairly well. I love it.
Now THIS is what I’m talking about! I like this gun. Not an exact replica, but very noticeably similar and metal. $120 is no big deal for this. Not that it fits my budget lately, but I wouldn’t have a problem buying that over a plastic model at half the price. I’d like one with the 8″ bbl in ‘silver’ I can’t wait to see how the ‘shells’ work. Will there be a post tomorrow? And will part two be it?
Not tomorrow, but soon. Tomorrow I have to return to a gun we are also liking.
Would the cartridges work with a real speed loader like an HKS or a Safariland which resembles the one that comes with the air gun?
They might, but let me show you how this speedloader works, first. Now that I understand how it operates, it seems to work as intended.
This looks like a version of those Gamo R77 and RWS Magnum pellet revolvers now modified to work like a Brocock, only using BBs and a smooth bore instead. Why didn’t they design this to use pellets along with a rifled barrel like a Brocock? Some kind of liability issue maybe? Or a way to sell this product in Great Britain where they outlawed the Brocock air cartridge system?
No conspiracy going on here. This gun evolved from an airsoft revolver. That’s why it looks the way it does.
That sure looks like my Christmas present! Thanks for the review.
Judging by the barrel length it can speed 0.5 g projectile I would say 120 m/s, and that is quite enough. Some people say handgun with 8” barrrel is a sort of a compensation – and I say it’s right what a CO2 needs.
As light as this revolver is, the 8-inch barrel presents no holding or balance problems. And you are correct that with CO2, a longer barrel is what you want.
Not interested in the gun, but….
I remember most of the joke. Heard it over 40 yrs ago from a hillbilly from down around the WVA/OH border.
Constructing another cat house to sit next to the first one. Have it put together and insulation in. Still waiting on the heating pad, and to put in the wiring. Have the extra kitty cam ready to install. Extra food dish on hand.
Too many cats can’t get along in the small space in one cat house. We have at least 9 visitors. No vermin yet. Vermin will not be tolerated.
The ones you have built have better amenities than “The Bunny Ranch”! Nice……
I draw the line at installing TV and cat porn videos. No naked cat pictures on the walls. No mirrors on the cieling. No heated water beds.
I am a peeping tom, though. I watch them on camera.
I knew you were a class act. Now I find out you are taking care of more cats than I am! Well… maybe. I have no idea how many cats eat from the bowl I put out at work. I can’t help but love the damned things, even if they wont let me get anywhere near them. Mini tigers, and lions, and panthers. How could a person resist?
I do have 3 house cats, all of which were strays. They are my most effective stress relievers…and pest eliminators. No rodents get near the house, and any bugs that get inside are goners.
Cat food usage outside has tripled over what it was a year ago. The neighbor behind us has quit puting out food. Some others must have quit too.
At first I thought there were vermin showing up. A possum or coon can eat as much as three cats. I set out a trail camera a few times and got nothing but cat pics. Later on, the food was still going fast and I decided to change things a bit. I did not really like the cam firing off the conventional flash all night. Did not want some scum swiping it. Got one with an IR flash. Nobody sees that. Still no vermin…..just cats.
The world is hard on the little things. You are a blessing to them.
I want to commend Pyramyd Air’s staff.Last night,unable to sleep I wandered the site and discovered that the AirForce .25 24″ barrel was FINALLY in stock!! Well,I went ahead and ordered it……before I checked out I remembered that I had a winter catalog that had a “coupon code” on the back for 11% off.Well,since I like $$ and enjoy keeping as much of mine as possible…..I entered the code to see if it applied to my purchase.I know that you get free shipping for orders over $150,but NOT with the coupon.The way the computerized ordering works,(apparently) just trying the code causes the software to automatically charge for ground shipping.I went to sleep a little aggravated once I realized I had NOT benefitted from the coupon but DID get charged shipping according to my receipt.This morning whomever processed my order was on their toes,and corrected everything before I even complained.So please pass along my thanks,this could have easily been overlooked.
Your comment has been forwarded to the staff at Pyramyd Air.
Thank you Edith……perhaps there is a way to modify the function a little.I know it’s easier said than done……especially with my computer skills.This could result in ill will if a customer didn’t understand what was happening.I have yet to stumble upon the “exclusions” from their coupon codes.That only leaves the option of trying to use it at checkout.Seems to create bad feelings from an otherwise sound marketing tool,IMHO.
99.99% of all coupon codes offered by Pyramyd Air will not allow the coupon to be combined with the free shipping offer. About 2-3 times a year, we have a coupon that can be combined with free shipping. To be really honest with you, I’ve never heard any negative comments about this before. No kidding! Every coupon we create states that some items are excluded and that it cannot be combined with free shipping. When it CAN be combined with the free shipping promotion, we state it boldly because it’s such a big deal.
NO NO……I’m not saying that at all.What isn’t clear is WHAT is included/excluded from the coupon program.What I’m saying is that in the absence of that answer….the customer can only try to apply it to their purchase.The act of “trying” causes the software to automatically charge for shipping regardless of whether their purchace is in fact something that IS discounted by the coupon.My “reciept” last night showed I was being charged shipping.From the customer’s perspective
they not only don’t get the discount,they seem to get charged shipping for attempting to use the coupon.(someone fixed it this morning on my order) I am pointing this out so they see that catching it is great,but avoiding the problem will involve changing the “auto-shipping charge if a coupon is used” so it ONLY charges shipping IF a coupon DISCOUNT actually occurs.I’m sorry this is hard for me to explain.I do mean well…..this isn’t me complaining.
I think the issue is not that you tried using the coupon…it’s most likely a bug on the new website. That’s why they fixed it after the fact…they know about it and so they do this manually every morning. Naturally, they know that fixing it is the optimum way to do things, but everything can’t be fixed at once, so they first fix what can’t be handled manually. When those bugs are fixed, they go after the rest of the stuff 🙂
Please believe me when I tell you that Pyramyd Air has people who are literally working around the clock to fix every single issue and bug. I realize that doesn’t solve the issue you brought up, but at least you now know why this happened.
I just thought they might like to know about it….sorry.
I sent them your first comment, so they DO know about it. Since I’ve heard nothing in response, that’s why I believe they know it’s happening.
Edith,you are wonderful.I would be in serious trouble if I ever find a woman as competent as you.I wouldn’t stand a chance! Thanks….Frank B
I like this pistol, but would have preferred that it work with pellets and a rifled barrel, being that the barrel is so long. Because the barrel is so long, I’d imagine that it’s fairly accurate with BB’s.
Victor my Daisy Red Ryder is surprisingly accurate with BBs, this little pistol might be scarily accurate with BBs. Remember you’re probably going to be shooting it within 10 yards. If you can always a Necco wafer in that distance that’s hella good.
Yeah, some guns can be surprisingly accurate, even with a smooth-bore. I had always assumed that my Crosman 760 had a rifled barrel because it was so accurate, but it turned out to be a smooth-bore.
I think this revolver, with the length of its barrel may in fact be quite accurate.
We have the PPK/s…it has no trouble putting 10 shots in a 6″ circle at 25′. Not great, but the pistol is just so much fun.
But….our Beretta Elite will easily put 10 shots in 2″ at 25’…not bad at all.
I’d like to get my brother-in-law an Air Force Condor package in .22 for Christmas (yes, he’s a very good bro-in-law!) and I’d like to take advantage of any upcoming Black Friday specials but already the fine print says no coupons accepted for this item today. I’m wondering if I’m going to be disappointed come Friday.
One package seems to have not enough accessories, and the complete package has too many. Can you suggest the ‘perfect’ package for me? I could go a grand or so, and I’d like it to include the ‘make it real quiet’ doohickey that goes on the end. I couldn’t find that accessory. The package is going out of the country and he does have access to scuba air. But I still want a pump. Is the Air Force or Hill pump better? A lot of questions I know, but I’m a springer man, so any advice greatly appreciated.
Alas, Pyramyd Air does not make the rules where AirForce products are involved or if a coupon can be used. It’s completely out of our hands.
You are indeed a very good brother in law. Do you have anymore sisters? 😉
Happy Holidays my friend.
Get the Hill pump,I have the air force pump. It has been been repaired 4 times and is down again. It has never been abused it’s just a piece of you know what.
Buy what you can from PA. The rifle, a scope and mounts and perhaps a pump? And some good pellets.
The silencer is sold by numerous small dealers and mine cost $175.
PA stocks the Hill pump hopefully Santa will drop one off here.
I distinctly remember my mom telling me I was a child “in the wood pile’ and I have a brother named Alan that she was unable to get in touch with. A Talon SS for me will be fine!
Thanks, appreciate the info. Do you happen to know what pellets the .22 Condor likes?
Alas, no sisters, rather the brother of my wife! But she has a sister: a nun. Good luck! 😉
Loren & Ms. Linnet,
Thanks for the advice on the Hill pump– I thought as much.
Happy Thanksgiving, all!
Boy, my brother in law just comes over here and drinks my best whiskey. He even asks – sometimes – that is, he asks me if I want a drink of my own liquor! I have a couple of choice words to describe him but Edith forbids such language.
The Condor does best with JSB Exacts in 18.1 and 15.9 grain weights. Kodiaks are also very good.
A nun huh? Not very encouraging, but I’d be willing to risk it for a free Condor. Did I mention how charming I am?
I am interested to know what you find yourself shooting most these days.
Still the HW-30S, and occasionally the 350. I’m a very boring dude. I think I will finally get around to listing my scoped 54 Air King on the yellow this weekend. I was looking forward to some time off to photograph everything and the weather’s nice. Hope you have a great time today.
Thread Drift! You have been warned!
Some weeks ago, as I recall, the topic of the repossession industry came up.
The latest issue of American Rifleman has a clipping (from Naples FL) in “The Armed Citizen” column that might be of interest — I did find a reference via Google:
The AR clipping does state that the repo agent has a carry permit.
It’s very sad that some people are willing to die over property. I’d be wiling to die for family, but not property. A home invasion is implicitly a threat to family.
My understanding is that repo man is a VERY dangerous job.
In a lot of cases I think it’s like in the movie “The Bicycle Thief”, if the person loses their car, their whole life will collapse and they’ll end up on the street. In “prepper’ circles we call this a cascade failure.
AlanL, woohoo finally a question I can answer I would suggest the hill pump it is a well made pump has the most versatility as well as having a moisture lock. It is also easy to take apart to make repairs.
Jason sent this to the wrong address, so I am posting it here for him.
Is there published material regarding how much volume of compressed air is released on PCP rifles with each shot? Or does it vary by caliber or manufacture, or gun model? Also, with each shot , are there formulas or calculators available on line to determine the pressure drop with each shot? If this is information you typically charge for and if so, how do we set up some time to discuss some of the mechanical challenges we are facing?
Yes there are formulae and no, they are not available. They are closely held as proprietary.
The Benjamin Rogue is based on an interactive program that describes the pressure curve versus power band, but since it is a design tool I wouldn’t expect it to be shared.
As for setting up time to discuss this matter, you can do that here on the blog. I do have some access to proprietary data on this subject, but I cannot share it.
The amount of compressed air released in each shot of a pcp can vary greatly because of caliber and/or model of gun and/or how the valve is set up and/or if the pcp is regulated. The amount of compressed air released in each shot can also vary between two models of the same pcp in the same caliber. I’ve witnessed this first hand in several guns the latest is an AA S410 .22 caliber vs. a AA S510 in .22 caliber. Although these guns have a different model number the actions are the same the only difference is the stock.
I’m not smart enough to know how to measure amount of air used shot by shot but you could get close by noting fill pressure when the gun is at the beginning of your optimal power curve, shooting shot strings, noting ending pressure and dividing by shots taken. This would get you close to amount of pressure drop with each shot.
Unfortunately, that also varies with where you are in the pressure curve…
10 shot sequences (since that was the magazine size)
Benjamin Marauder .177 factory settings Start End Spread
H&N Barracuda Match 10.7 853.1 17.21 3000 2800 25.8
H&N Barracuda Match 10.7 865.9 17.72 2800 2600 21.4
H&N Barracuda Match 10.7 872.9 18.02 2600 2500 10.6
H&N Barracuda Match 10.7 878.4 18.25 2500 2375 11.6
H&N Barracuda Match 10.7 874.0 18.06 2375 2200 11.7
H&N Barracuda Match 10.7 857.8 17.40 2200 2000 21.3
Working range appears to be 2700psi to 2200psi
The first 10 took 200PSI (20psi/shot)
The second 10 took 200PSI
The third 10 took 100PSI (10psi/shot)
The fourth 10 took 125PSI (12.5psi/shot)
The fifth 10 took 175PSI (17.5psi/shot)
The sixth 10 took 200PSI (20psi/shot)
(I had the full chrono report so could split the 10 shot sets to determine that 2700-200PSI held things to the narrowest min/max velocity spread for the greatest shot string length, about 35 shots)
What model Glock do you carry?
Model 36, but it’s very tricked out. It’s a $400 gun with about $600 of upgrades. I like it 🙂
Thanks! My son recently bought a model 19 for concealed carry (it’s a small model). It’s small but surprisingly accurate. He practices at between 3 and 7 yards, but I was able to demonstrate that it will reliably hit a human size upper torso at 50 yards. I’d say that it will do it’s job for the intended purpose.
I would love to get my hands on a G18. Fully automatic with a 33 round magazine. I have the magazine already, and it fits in my G19. But I have to go through the tiresome task of pulling the trigger for each shot. It also doesn’t do any favors for the balance of the pistol.
I believe the Israeli made corner-shot is a glorified G18 with a clunky mechanism attached. It might be useful for taking out zombies however..
I have – literally – about 1000lbs of test equipment on pallets under plastic to move into an office trailer I just bought, just got the trailer set up and level today, got the roof (hopefully) watertight yesterday. I need to clean the trailer out some more (mainly clean/seal floor) and I need to build a set of front steps for it, then I get to load all my goodies in! They’re experiencing the greenhouse effect under that plastic! So, I’m pretty busy with this these days, but I have yet more idiotic revolver ideas to plague the world with.
Such as, OK, so pellets don’t behave well in my Single-Six. So, I’m thinking, I wonder if I can make some kind of bullets out of a hard rubber, with a hollow skirt, that can be packed into .22 brass that has the primer in it. Or some kind of plastic or something. The brass can be hard to load the projectile into, since the brass is still crimped after removing the bullet. The idea is to get .22 pellet performance and reasonable accuracy. But not something that’s going to be noisy, or carry far – like a pellet, a *low* ballistic coefficient.
Or I could just buy the Crosman “.357” .177 pellet shootemupski.
Well, back in 1978/79 I recall buying my father a set of “practice” rounds for .38special… They used large pistol primers to propel reusable plastic cylinders (which snap-fit into plastic cases). Still a bit dangerous — my father managed to puncture the vinyl back of a kitchen chair with the “wad-cutter” edges of the bullets.
Yeah they’re called “X-Ring Practice Bullets” or something and look like oversized flatnose pellets. Or at least that’s one kind, this is an idea using .22 primed brass. It’s idiotic, most of my ideas are, but I still want to try it.
7 more hours til BF! This is like Christmas!