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BSA Supersport SE: Part 1

Tom Gaylord, a.k.a. B.B. Pelletier

BSA Supersport SE
BSA Supersport SE

Today, we’ll begin looking at a .22-caliber BSA Supersport SE. This is a conventional breakbarrel spring piston air rifle in a beech stock. It’s been some time since I’ve tested a conventional new spring rifle like this.

The serial number of the rifle I’m testing is SSE22-770789-13. The metal finish is unpolished but probably tumble-finished, giving all the parts a matte sheen. The only plastic parts you can see on the outside are both sights, the safety lever and the triggerblade. They blend into the overall matte black finish very well.

The stock is shaped well and has 4 panels of pressed checkering — one on either side of the forearm and one on either side of the pistol grip. The BSA stacked rifles logo (called piled rifles in the UK, and the BSA logo is called the Pylarm logo) is pressed into the base of the pistol grip. The wood is finished smoothly, and the only rough area is the point where the black rubber buttpad meets the wood. That transition isn’t smooth, and there’s glue around the joint.

BSA Supersport SE butt
The joint at the buttpad is a little rough and has dried glue.

The barrel comes very far back when the rifle’s cocked, making this a long-stroke piston. The cocking linkage is in 2 pieces that are jointed to keep the cocking slot in the stock as short as possible, which reduces the feeling of vibration. BSA says that the action is internally weighted to deliver top performance. I’m thinking they mean that there’s a weighted top hat inside the piston, or the piston itself is heavy. Either way, the rifle should shoot medium and heavyweight pellets better than lightweight pellets.

BSA Supersport SE air rifle
The barrel comes way back when the rifle’s cocked. That means the piston stroke is long.

The rifle is supposed to weigh 6.6 lbs., according to BSA information. The rifle I’m testing weighs 7 lbs. on the nose. The difference is attributable to the density of the wood in the stock.

BSA advertises the muzzle velocity at 730 f.p.s. That would be with a lightweight pellet, but I’m hoping it’s a light lead pellet. If so, that’s a good velocity for a .22 spring rifle — not too fast, yet plenty of power. We’ll find out in the velocity test.

The trigger is adjustable via an Allen wrench. The adjustment works on the second stage to lighten it or make it heavier. The safety is manual, which I must applaud. Only the shooter should be in control of the gun — never the design!

The sights are fiberoptic, front and rear. The rear sight adjusts in both directions, so I’ll start the accuracy testing using the open sights.

BSA Supersport SE front sight
Front sight is fiberoptic.

BSA Supersport SE rear sight
Rear sight is fiberoptic and adjusts in both directions.

There’s an 11mm dovetail groove machined into the top of the spring tube, but BSA has long been noted for having its grooves set at the widest end of the size spectrum. For newer readers, 11mm is a nominal size for airgun dovetails. They actually range from 9.5mm out to almost 14mm, and BSA has always had the widest set. But it looks like the grooves are now 11mm apart.

I’m very pleased to see a deep, wide vertical scope stop hole in the middle of the dovetails at the rear of the spring tube. This provides a solid anchor point for a vertical scope stop that most of the conventional 11mm scope rings have.

BSA Supersport SE scope stop hole
This deep, wide hole in the spring tube is for a vertical scope stop.

Solid firing cycle
I couldn’t resist shooting the rifle a couple times to check the trigger and the firing cycle. The trigger is definitely 2-stage, with some creep in stage 2. I’ll work on that for next time. The firing cycle is quite smooth. It’s got a hint of spring buzz, but only a hint. The shot feels solid and there is no hurtful vibration at all. This is a very pleasant spring rifle to shoot!

I would add that, when I cocked the rifle, the stroke felt to smooth that I almost thought it had a gas spring. Ten years ago, I would have said this rifle has been tuned. It feels that smooth. The cocking effort is heavier — going up around 40 lbs., as a guess. In recent years, I’ve seen a number of breakbarrel air rifles that cocked as smooth as this one, so what I believe is happening is the manufacturers are paying more attention to the internal tolerances. The result is that the buyer gets a smoother air rifle; and at the price for which this one retails, that’s quite a bargain. Five years ago, you got something much harsher for the same $250.

I have owned and tested BSA Supersport rifles in the past. In fact, in the 1990s they were a huge seller here in the U.S. They are no-frills rifles that offered good performance and accuracy at a good price. Let’s hope BSA has continued that tradition in this latest offering.

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Tom Gaylord (B.B. Pelletier)
Tom Gaylord, also known as B.B. Pelletier, provides expert insights to airgunners all over the world on behalf of Pyramyd AIR. He has earned the title The Godfather of Airguns™ for his contributions to the industry, spending many years with AirForce Airguns and starting magazines dedicated to the sport such as Airgun Illustrated.

77 thoughts on “BSA Supersport SE: Part 1”

    • Chris, my three year old SE Supersport .25 does. The cocking link is also made up of two pieces laminated together. I take it you are trying to determine if it is still made in the UK or Spain ,since Gamo owns BSA?

      • Chris and Robert,

        I thought that, too. I have examined this rifle very closely and it only says the UK on it. The end flap on the box also only says UK.

        Also, the rifle’s construction doesn’t appear to be from Gamo. The design still shows BSA’s hand and Gamo almost invariably puts their own triggers on everything they make. This one isn’t a Gamo trigger, to the best of my knowledge.


        • This past Xmas I was eyeing a BSA Supersport on PA web site priced @ $299 from the pictures posted I could see the barrel had satin gloss bluing and a engraving on top of the barrel they also had/have Supersport SE @ $249 and its pictures show dull bluing with tooling marks. So it looks like Gamo/BSA are diluting quality a little. Good thing prices aren’t going north, $249 is a fair price. BB can you tell us if the barrel has the side to side play.

        • Chris, Robert & B.B.,

          The gun says “From BSA Guns UK.” However, the spring-piston and gas-piston guns are made in Spain. I know that because I asked the head of BSA Guns UK a question on February 20, 2014, about the Supersport, and he told me the spring- and gas-piston guns are not made in the UK. He said they are made in Spain.


      • That is irrelevant from this day on. Gamo own BSA they over see everything even their Purchase Orders even down to the toilet paper in the restrooms . Before the collaboration BSA had skilled master craftsman that were proud to give barrels the “Royal Blue” finish. Now a day workers have to fill out work requisition orders to get materials for the work day. Please excuse me.

  1. 1st, thank for a first look at the bsa. smoother cocking always sounds like fun-on-a-stock.

    edith: sorry about the double comment but i wanted to address the new day with a hint. (sorry again cutie… 😉

    bb: just a tiny hint into finding happiness with the daisy 880: (don’t beat me up…)

    to prep to fire:
    open bolt, pump x# times,
    ****** point gun strait down, and drop head of pellet into breach,*****
    then close bolt, aim,
    and fire. (this seems to prevent any clipping of the pellet before the the rifling, avoiding the bb port entirely, and making loading easier ~ to me. btw: not my tip, but i can’t find a reference right this second.)

    i am looking forward to daisy 880 part 2 and here’s some things i would like you to consider:

    class: where would similar rifles be found (cheep~ish or any other msp)? how do they compare? (it really looks like the closest and most comparable might be the crosman m4-177, or c-man 1377+1399)

    innovation: what are some of the things daisy does different than crosman? pump tube? pivot linkage? valve? trigger?

    does the pump arm really flex very much? (i cant see it, even on pump 10. is this a “perceived” plastic discrimination? would the engineering-lawyers really do it if it would break?)

    recognition of the ##,###,###’s of daisy’s produced and time tested design (is the 880 older than any current crosman? maybe 760? when did the first 880 come out? what about the c-man 2100?) How many has pa sold per year?

    why do air gun shooters disappear as shooters abandon the 880 and disappear from our sport before they buy a tx200, styer, raw, or fx, or other? (this to me is the question the industry should ask, w/millions of kids w/ msp’s, why is the next move they make is to turn to .22lr. who is trying to get the 18-38 y.o. .22lr market back into airguns? what airguns will interest them? how do we keep it cheaper than a rugger 10/22?)

    this is exactly where the 15 y.o. shooter is, and he’s/she’s looking to upgrade and stretch his/hers’ range. why do they buy a .22lr and not another airgun? do they even need an upgrade? (we all have G.A.S. of course, but more gun needs more range/safety. talk them out of it. you always say velocity isn’t everything….i say everything is in comfortable/repeatable accuracy.)

    ok, so that may be several reports….thanks Edith and Tom, heroes of airguns!!!!

    thanks again for your time,
    rob, the requester of 880, duke of daisy’s, (yep, shorts designer)

    • who even bothers to make a msp any-old-way? who would even want one? somewhere in between a low-power springer and mag springer, but without the spring? justify the msp’s manufacturing … wait volume of sales does that….

      confused about the hate for msp’s, and the link into msp’s being the last time a shooter took an airgun seriously at age 14-ish? the blogs only confuse the matter.

      thanks for the input, here, there, and everywhere,
      rob the requester

      • Rob,

        You are talking to yourself. The scary part is you are answering yourself.

        As far as quality MSPs (that is multiple stroke pneumatics for the newbies), FX introduced the Independence in recent years. I had the opportunity to look at one at the last Roanoke show. It is up to the FX standards. I have wanted one for some time now, but the price tag is also up to the FX standards. They also have a bullpup version.

        I have been hoping that Crosman will get the idea and build a similar version of the Marauder.

        • If Crosman were to pull that of I would definitely be saving money for another purchase. With no fill apparatus I assume the first day of ownership would involve lots of pumping?..

          • The FX Independence can also be filled from a tank, pump or compressor. The on board pump allows you to go hunting or such and not carry a refill system with you, hence the name.

    • If you read about the Sheridan History its because of lack of quality and precision that the so called “American made” air guns were missing those rifles came about.

    • Rob,

      I had 147 email messages this morning. That’s an accumulation from just after 5 p.m. yesterday. Every time you leave a comment on the blog, I get it emailed to me.

      I am telling you this because you have asked the same question about the 880 in several places.

      In the future, pleas ask a question once and wait for the answer there.



  2. Hello BB and Fellow Airgun Aficionados
    Thank you muchly for testing this BSA Supersport SE. I have commented previously about having an opportunity to purchase this model in .177cal, during the examination of your beloved BSA Meteor. What has had me sitting on the fence for so long was the lack of a thorough testing of the rifle by someone reputable. So, when or if this gun meets or exceeds your expectations based on accuracy, quality, etc, it should be arriving to my door by Canada Post just in time for Easter. Oh yes, let me add the most important category. ‘Fun-ability’. After all, if a gun isn’t fun to shoot, it will sit in the back of the closet collecting nothing but dustballs. May I also respectfully ask you not leave too many days between each set of tests. A 62 year old kid can only handle so much suspence? 😉

  3. I own 3 880 variants 1 bought in 1993 since then many people use this riffle it has about 3000 pellets through it and 500 bbs through it. The gun is very loose now, these guns have to be cared for like a safe queen (straw barrel wobbles stock notches broke were it attaches to receiver) The most notable fact about this gun is its price $40 . I can buy a brand new gun this morning to fix my old one in 15 minutes. The other 2 880 are 177x and Arkansas Can Opener aka 22sg these two have a metal reciver and wood stock, perform exactly as any 880. So if a newbie or old timer that grew up on Daisy and Corpsman probably never heard or seen a Air Arms TX200 or a 50 cal Dragon Claw . So I can see someone who in their mind had the most powerful Daisy (880)air rifle would resort to a 22lr. The 880 is advertised as a father and son go plink cans in the back yard. Todays air guns are geared up from field target to bench rest and every thing in between you want to do. When I was 13yrs old I had a couple air guns, but by 16yr forgot about then. It in 2005 when I got my first break barrel it was a Gamo Shadow 1000 it was hard for me to dish out $124 for a air gun. 2005 was the height of Internet air gun web sites,that Gamo came with a small pamphlet with all their guns and Gamo web site that led me to PA web site rest is history.

    • I think that in the past if you had a mentor who appreciated quality air guns you probably would have had more interest in the higher end guns. The ARH catalogs were a common sight at our house and my father had a very early Walther LP-53 back when you had to go to Germany to get one. There was also a Cometa break barrel .22, Crosman CO2 guns,and Benji MSP’s.That said, the aquistion of that first .22 RF rifle was still the main goal for me growing up ,but that was only because of my hunting interest and the availability of a place to shoot it.. Now ,I think airguns are coming into their own because of the un-availability of quality affordable RF ammo , and lack of a place to shoot. This time now is to airguns, as the late 1950’s were to cheap surplus arms and ammo and the post WW2 boom in the shooting sports.

    • Chris,

      These airguns I test are not mine to keep. I seldom take them apart. I had to buy the Bronco whose stock I messed up for the peep sight test.

      Therefore, the answer is no, I won’t take this rifle apart.

      BSA shows some things on their website, though the piston of this rifle is not one.

      Tell me what it is you are looking for and maybe I can help you in some other way.


        • Chris,

          BSA weasel-words an implication of that on their website, so I would say, yes, the top hat is weighted. I will know better when I see the results of the chronograph test. Heavy pistons are more efficient with heavy pellets — something spring guns usually don’t do.


  4. G’day BB
    Why an open sight test as a scope will be more accurate?
    Don’t we want to know any rifles maximum potential accuracy?
    Has anyone such as the SPCA done research into steel shot or BBs in wounding of animals against lead wounds (yesterdays post). Steel would be very reactive in the body compared to lead.
    Cheers Bob

    • Lead vs. steel was discussed in some depth a short while back also. I doubt the SPCA is going to do such research since they likely will want you to not shoot an animal with anything. Maybe PETA is up to the task?

    • It has open sights, so why not test it with open sights? I myself have been relearning the art of open sights with my BSA.

      Also, I have found that most scopes are a hindrance when a “quick” shot is required. Such are usually at close range and you and your quarry have startled each other. If your scope has AO, it is usually adjusted to farther ranges and you do not have time to fiddle with it, or it is a fixed parallax at 100 yards and you cannot see your quarry through it anyway.

      That is why the market for small dot sights, etc. has been flourishing in recent times. People add them to the top or side for those quick, close in shots. If you already have open sights, you can use mounts that raise the scope up enough to see the sights.

      More than once I have sighted down the barrel like a shotgun.

      • RR, I have the Williams receiver sight that PA sells on my .25 cal BSA Supersport which is like this one , except that it doesn’t have the fiber optic enhanced sights that this version does. That combination works really well . My gun is three years old and I bought it from PA. BB reviewed the BSA .25 Supersport a couple years ago ,but his gun was defective and he had to discountinue the review. My gun was a consecutive serial number up or down from that gun. I sure got lucky that time!

          • Kevin, Edith ,and BB : My BSA .25 cal SE Supersport rifle is a bit different than the gun in the PA link that Edith provided . My guns stock looks the same but the trigger is definitely different , as is the trigger guard . The original rear sights on my gun look the same (but no fiber optic),are made of plastic, and have a reversible rear sight plate with a choice of a “U” notch or a square notch.The front sight also has a reversible post . The ramp is plastic and and after a screw on top of the ramp is loosened, the post can be removed and reversed. One side is a plain black square post ,and the other a black bead type post .

            • BTW, my rifle which was purchased new from PA in April 2011 , cost $339.95 . Big difference in price to the one reviewed today ,so something must be different.

    • Steel will oxidize,,, rust,,, and your body will absorb what doesn’t remain in the tissue. No big deal,, and this from an Ironworker who, undoubtedly still has a pound or so floating around in there. Lead will also oxidize,, a little,,, and the result is ,, less good,, as lead poisoning can do things unwanted,, to the liver.


  5. BB, Isn’t that hole in the receiver tube tapped for a screw that is used to hold down a separate scope stop , or the riser for the 14mm BSA scope base ?

  6. I’m a little confused. The pics above show the letters “GRT”, stamped near the buttpad. The Pyramyd web site says the GRT Supersport SE has a gas piston, and the Supersport SE has a spring piston.
    Which rifle are you testing?

  7. Thank you B.B for testing the bsa, you succeeded in making me completely unsure of what spring .22 I want to get! Can’t wait to see the numbers! And RidgeRunner, your idea of open and CQ sights is spot on, I love seeing a custom AR with the 45 angled irons attached.

  8. Buldawg, Thanks for your response last night. I viewed the link and will be using it later i’m sure. When I tried to respond I kept getting server error.
    After saving for 2 months I finally received a fine looking Benjamin ‘Frankiln’ (couldn’t pass that one up B.B.) 3120. As I fished for a pump cup, I slowly came to the realization that it was everywhere, in little pieces! This stuff looks and feels like the red silicone gasket sealer offered at local auto parts retailers’. I’ve retrieved all but the last few stubborn remnants and now can clearly see the face of the valve. Now I have some questions I would like to pose to anyone with the knowledge and eagerly await any and all responses. Is it true that some of these came with adjustable pump rods? Because if so, I believe I have one. Could this red “live rubber” feeling stuff really be the cup or did someone try to seal this gun with RTV? Does this mean the gun was “oiled” with petroleum and could require the entire valve to be serviced?


  9. The BSA Supersport is my favorite rifle model. Mine are older ones, not current production. I have a tuned 177 Supersport Lightning (my favorite), .177 Supersport Carbine, a 22 cal Supersport, and a 25 cal Supersport. I like the light weight of these guns and the smooth firing cycles. I much prefer a Supersport to an R9. I had a later production model for a little bit. I trigger was much heavier, but I did not try to adjust it. I did like the stock better on the later model. I will be interested to see if your test gun shoots well for you.

    David Enoch

  10. buldawg76,

    I saw this morning that you asked if I would send you the Rabbit Magnum II’s so you could try them in your 1400. Am I correct in my assumption that your 1400 is a Gamo Big Cat 1400?

    These things are not really pellets. In actuality, they are .177+ caliber cast lead bullets. My experience has been that most sproingers do not have the umph to shove these things out of the barrel with enough energy to have a trajectory or accuracy to be useful. When I shot them from my BSA Saturday, at 10 meters they dropped roughly 6 inches and a three shot group was about 8 inches c-2-c. They are also VERY hard to load into most .177 airguns. You are going to need at least 20FPE from your rifle and I strongly suspect you will need a different twist rate.

    Having said all that, here is what I will do. Send me an email with your mailing address to burke93/at/tds/dot/net and I will send you a sample of them to try out. I would advise you to have a cleaning rod handy so as to push it back out of the breach if need be.

    • Its a love/hate sorta thing when I hear people have ordered nice shiny new guns and parts. Im sure you’ll understand… lol but congrats really, in waiting for the adapters so I can mount my awesome new to me scope, I bought a new Colt competition one piece mount that has me pretty tickled. All this scope gear is for a BSA? We’ll see but it’ll sure be cool on my current shooter.

      • Thanks,Next update I had to send a coon awhile ago to that big corn field in the sky.He has been in my Aunt’s attic for some time.My dog treed him up a red oak behind the house.Shot was around 65” strait up.The talon P. did what it is designed for,one shot to the head,lights out.That’s around 15 coons in two years with the talon P.

        • Good shootin’, shots straight up or down from an elevated position can be tough with the trajectory all out of wack, my grandfather used to always tell me about shooting right over the backs of deer from a treestand. Sighted in at a flat plane he said he always would forget the first shot. His friend is a pro archery genius and has a trophy room bigger than my whole house! All boon and crocketts and every big game you could think of. What a lucky pleasure to get some pointers and target time with him, I literally went from knowing nothing to being a dang good shot after just 3 or 4 sessions with him..

          • yes shots strait up or down can be a miss if ya forget about the strange forces of gravity.But the talon P is a weapon for me anyway that i must play close attention to muck more so then the Mrod.I have to aim about a 1” low when I shoot strait up with the talonP but the Mrod 22 cal.I just aim dead on the head never have to aim low.That’s my only complaint aside that the safety on the talon sounds like a #2 pencil breaking when ya push it on fire.Wish they would have consulted hunters when they designed that safety.As they say it ain’t hunter friendly with a loud safety.There have been times that after I set down to wait for a squirrel I would go ahead and put it on fire so when my chance came for the shot,Mr.bushy tail would not here me.This is not safe practice for one time I almost sent a 25 cal.pellet thur my foot because ”I FORGOT” yep may all learn from this.I think Airforce came out with a silent safety.Sometimes I think that 3” from cross hairs to center of bore plays a part in the shooting so high.The Mrod is 1 1/2” cross hair to bore and I always just aim dead on with no worry about hold over inside of a reasonable distance.Not complaining about any of this except the loud safety,everything else I can deal with.

            • Sounds like something needs a rubber bumper… though I think its ill advised to modify anything on the safety unless you have that kind of experience. It’s never fun losing the shot over such a trivial little click, but it sounds like a good feature for the range.

  11. B.B., that front sight looks adjustable and pretty fragile. Is it as precarious as it looks or does it feel sturdy? The rear looks more durable. Also the way the post us slotted in is it replaceable with a new one if it breaks or with different styles?

    • RDNA,

      All fiberoptics are inherently fragile this way. This one is no different.

      The sight is dovetailed to the ramp, but where you will get replacement BSA parts other than OEM parts I don’t know. They are not supported that well.


      • Machine custom front to fit that dovetail.. Ooh yeah, liking that idea. Or fit a little base into that dove for some flip-up irons to compliment a quick detach bug-buster…. The possibilities are endless!!

  12. I read all this, as an Englishman, with a heavy heart, unfortunately BSA springers simply haven’t been the same since the Gamo element was introduced, the Supersport was a real workhorse rifle but had a very “Beezer” feel about it, and like most of them was inherantly “pointable”, it was the same with the Airsporters and Meteors, you scarcely needed the open sights to send tin cans flying at 25 yards….it seems Gamo have……just about…managed to keep the barrel quality, but fit/finish and preperation are suffering at the hands of our sangria swilling, bull heckling European cousins 🙂
    Please don’t even mention Webley getting cosied up to the Turkish kings of jarring recoil…….
    As an aside, I don’t know how popular the BSA Mercury was over the pond, but if you find a nice one at a show, for less than $175 or so, give it a whirl, it was a sleeper in the BSA range, sharing the powerplant internals of the more glamourous Airsporter, but in truth made better of them and was a sweeter shooter all round, and probably as good a traditional BSA spring gun as you could get
    Unfortunately, despite being a scope user I’m not fond of high combed stocks, and prefer the more traditional sporter stock, and the AA TX200 seems to have a stock similar to that of my AA S400, as does the Weihrauch HW97 (R9?) …….. and I’m looking for a nice springer right now, it’s looking like an HW77, patriotism notwithstanding, so I’m waiting with some trepidation for your Supersport results!!!!

    • I Totally agree about the BSA Mercury/Airsporter, they are both excellent air rifles from their time, ( i have a mercury myself and it’s the bee’s knees out to 30/35 yards). Though the Mercury to get would be the Mercury S as the forks are bolted around the forks and not held with a pin i shortened the piston on my Mercury and the recoil and surge make it so much nicer to fire and puts out 11 ft/lb. Low and behold the open sights are missing, what a surprise.


      Sir Nigel

  13. B.B.
    You wrote “weighted top hat inside the piston, or the piston itself is heavy. Either way, the rifle should shoot medium and heavyweight pellets better than lightweight pellets.”

    What is a “top hat”?
    Why would a heavy piston or top hat shoots medium to heavy pellets better?
    Sorry about the trivial questions, but I need to know.


    • Joe,

      Please ask a question just one time.

      A top hat is a forward spring guide. It sits inside the piston and slides on the piston rod.

      I will show you what one looks like next week and I will explain why a weighted piston is more efficient with heavier pellets.


    • Joe

      Top hat can mean different things depending on the type of airgun you are talking about. On spring piston guns it refers to an insert at the end of the spring that goes into the piston. It is weighted to provide more momentum to the piston when propelling pellets. The heavier the pellet, the more momentum you need to propel it at a given speed.

      Also it may serve to reduce the torquing of the spring when it expands from a compressed state.

  14. B.B.

    What is a “top hat”?
    Why would a heavy piston or top hat shoots medium to heavy pellets better?
    Sorry about the trivial questions, but I need to know.


  15. No problem let me see if I can describe a top hat in this BSA think of a spent 22lr looking like this [—- and now imagine it solid metal with the rim of the 22lr more weight keep adding extra rims on top of each other.. ][////] [[[—- }}}}}}}}}}}}} ——–]
    piston Top hat spring spring guide

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