Glock 19 BB gun.
Shooting the Glock 19 clone
Part 1
Part 2
This report covers:
- The test
- Loading
- Daisy BBs
- Why?
- But!
- Air Venturi Dust Devils
- Crosman Black Widow
- All 30 shots
- Summary
Today we look at the accuracy of the Glock 19 BB pistol I’m testing. This was an unusual test and I’m struggling to find the words to describe it.
The test
We learned in Part 2 that this pistol doesn’t feed Smart Shot BBs well, so I added a third steel BB to the two that I already tested.
I shot 10-shot groups from 5 meters and rested the pistol on the UTG Monopod. As short as this pistol is I had a little problem with shaking but I found a way to overcome it with the fingers of my off hand.
The sights are crisp and easy to acquire. That helped a lot, though the short barrel meant that I had to really concentrate on sight alignment! I wore my +1.25 diopter readers to see the front sight crisply.
Loading
To load the magazine I laid it on a table and dropped 10 of each kind of BB into the feed hole. This mag is really slick and it loads as easy as any single-stack magazine I’ve ever loaded!
Daisy BBs
First up were 10 Daisy steel BBs. They went into a group that measures 1.54-inches between centers. Now that sounds like an average group for me shooting a BB pistol and it is, but I felt the Glock could be a little more accurate. Maybe I was struggling with the shaking I mentioned earlier, but I can’t prove it. There are no called pulls in this group.
The Glock 19 put 10 Daisy BBs into this 1.54-inch group at 5 meters.
Why?
Why am I talking about shaking so much? Because this Glock BB pistol has a trigger that surprised me in this test. It is not one to use for target shooting.
Any factory Glock firearm trigger is not great for target shooting because the pull is too long and the Glock trigger is crunchy. It works well for defense, but not for targets. But what about the trigger on the BB pistol?
In Part 2 I said this about the trigger pull.
“The trigger does feel like a Glock firearm trigger only it’s smoother. The pistol fires with 6 pounds 7 ounces of effort. That’s reasonable for a defense pistol.”
I said the pull was smoother than a Glock firearm trigger and it is, but in today’s test I both felt and heard a point in the pull where something inside the pistol moved. It told me the handgun was about to fire, and that helped me settle down—BUT.
But!
The Glock 19 BB pistol has a very long and heavy pull when you try to hold steady on a bullseye target. I had to use my middle finger to pull the trigger, because after the first 5-6 shots my trigger finger was worn out!
Okay, let’s move on and see what happens when I use my middle finger to pull the trigger.
Air Venturi Dust Devils
Second to be tested were Air Venturi Dust Devil frangible BBs. From 5 meters the Glock 19 put ten of them into a 2.071-inch group. In past tests we’ve seen that groups from Dust Devils are always larger than groups of premium solid-steel BBs and today’s test is no exception, but this group is not that bad.
Ten Dust Devils made a 2.071-inch group at 5 meters.
Because they are frangible Dust Devils are perfect for reactive targets. All you have to do with the test pistol is aim a little to the right. You will be training to shoot defensively, which the Glock line of pistols is all about.
Crosman Black Widow
The last BB I tested was the Crosman Black Widow that is usually the most accurate of all the BBs in a test. Today was no exception with ten going into 1.325-inches at 5 meters. Like the other BBs these also shot slightly to the left, so the aim-off recommendation stated with the Dust Devils holds with these.
The Glock 19 BB pistol put ten Crosman Black Widow BBs into this 1.325-inch group at 5 meters.
All 30 shots
After I shot the last target I noticed something about the rubber mulch target box. I had taped a fresh piece of cardboard over the box and all 30 shots had hit in a group that measures 2.326-inches between centers. That’s very close to the largest 10-shot group in this test. And I took no special care to place all the targets in the same place. In other words, this pistol shoots to the same place with all three BBs!
All 30 BBs landed in 2.326 inches in the test.
That bodes well for defense shooters because once you learn where your pistol shoots you can trust that all your shots will go there.
Summary
The Glock 19 BB pistol is a great trainer for shooting a Glock 19 firearm. Other than the crossbolt safety the trigger is realistic as well as the size and weight of the pistol. It fits the same holster the firearm fits. All that’s missing is the expense, noise and recoil of the firearm.
Tom,
So this Glock firing BBs is a step above dry firing allowing you to actively see shot placement and practice trigger control without noise and recoil in the confines of one’s home. What is there not to like?
Siraniko
Siraniko
Maybe the lack of (a little) recoil and the lack of a realistic magazine? There are many Glock replicas which have these features plus a more realistic trigger.
Right, I was expecting the accuracy report, as I had a few things I wanted to share.
This is one of the most accurate non-blowback bb CO2 pistols I have shot. If you learn how to stage the trigger as the barrel reprosicates or (even better) learn how to roll through it it can be surprisingly precise.
Now, I happen to also own the 19 Gen 4 and the 19X, all by Umarex of course. Those three models are very similarly priced and they all function with the same type of mechanism. The 19X stands out of the three, on account of the absolutely HORRENDOUS trigger. The Gen 3 and Gen 4 have almost the same smooth (for a DAO repeater) trigger, while the 19X has the typical heavy and exhaustingly crunchy “plinker tier” trigger which results in awful groups compared to the other two. The trigger housing that extends forward on each side only makes things worse. Now, I am not an engineer or even remotely associated with airgun design, but I think they are similarly priced despite the vast difference in precision and comfort due to the extra parts the 19X requires. The outer barrel, the barrel hood, the extractor, the backplate and the sights all are separate parts from the slide. Personally, I would not have minded a slightly higher price to have the same trigger quality as the Gen 3 and Gen 4 19s. Oh, one more difference is that of the three, the 19X is the only one with a manual safety, which is located where the serial number plate would be on the real firearm.
I managed to make the 19X’s trigger a bit “better” by cutting 2-3 coils of the mainspring, lubing and firing the mechanism with CO2 only for a few hundred shots and shaving the sides of the trigger housing. It is definitely better, but still nowhere near as good as the other two.
Anywho, sorry for the wall of text, I just wanted to rant about this series of pistols for some time. Keep up the good work, BB!
I have no idea why my comment keeps getting posted in reply to Siraniko. I deleted and submitted it twice as a reply to the actual blog post like I intended to. It keeps getting posted here for some reason. Can we have it moved to the appropriate position by an admin, please?
GunnerNick,
Actually I had to pull it out of the trash, It’s posted where you sent it—according to WordPress,
BB
B.B.,
Who is this NN?
The valve on my Benjamin Discovery seems to have given up the ghost as it is dumping all of my charge into the barrel regardless of if the striker is cocked (retracted off of the valve stem) or resting on said stem. I have a replacement valve and two replacement valve stems ordered along with a number of other items to include more O-Rings as just in case prevention.
Even with the lower pressure fill requirement and other preventative measures (that still has stoped the leak around the gauge) eventually you will need to do a rebuild.
I think i got my monies worth out of one of the ORIGINAL very low serial number .177 Discovery air rifles.
I also take this opportunity to say thank you for your involvement in bringing the Benjamin Discovery PCP to market.
shootski
Did I already mentioned, that I don’t like it at all? 🙂 🙂 🙂
As it is likely well known that I am not a big fan of these “replica” bb pistols, I am not going to spend much time and money with this.
I guess I can see the point of some that this will likely be of some use to help train with a modicum of safety, but those who would need this additional safety should probably not be using such anyway.
Cheaper? Well, maybe. This is cheaper than buying another Glock and the ammunition for this one is cheaper than what you would feed a real Glock. When the time comes, I just hope you grab the right one.
Thanks for the report. That’s some good shooting.
Parts of the description of the trigger reminds me of the trigger on my Walther CP99 pellet pistol. It also has a relatively long pull and the point where there is a slight movement just before it fires. But the Walther pistol trigger doesn’t take much pressure to pull, so it doesn’t wear out my trigger finger. I keep hoping that that slight movement will wear away because when applying a slow squeeze (for target shooting) it can affect the aim. Self-defense shooting would be quicker, so no problem in that situation though.
The CP99 pellet pistol was developed for the German police, etc to practice with. So, I believe having a realistic replica pellet version of a firearm to train with can be useful. I prefer pellets to BBs though for indoor shooting. So, I wish more of these type guns shot pellets.
BB-
Wish all a happy D-Day!
My take on ‘Replica BB Shooters’-
1) Goofy cross bolt safety additions, ad nauseum. It’s a fact of life. For the manufacturers to be ‘permitted’ to make and market them, governments get their say.
Remember, gun safety is between the ears.
2) Lack of a realistic magazine. For practicing reloading manipulations, it would be nice to have. Realistically this would be better served with a ‘blue gun’. Those get pricey.
I’ll settle for functionality with the BBs.
3) Lack of recoil. This is legit to a point. I use a couple of Winchester (Daisy) 1911’s to introduce brand new shooters. A bit of noise (CO2), blowback action, okay trigger- a decent step up from starting with the blue guns. Buuuuuut….. for some folks even that extra movement of the slide is too much. The fear or intimidation or whatever of a new experience is too much to handle. So, we back up, get back in our comfort zone and find something that works. This Glock would be a good intermediate step in that case.
pacoinohio,
Thank you for the first laugh of my day: “So, we back up, get back in our comfort zone and find something that works.” It reminded me of a US Army Captain Intel type who was assigned to HQ EUCOM in Stuttgart when the new CINCEUR decided we all needed to be COMBAT READY. She couldn’t get (re)qualified with the Armory 1911s and was soon to be administratively discharged. I was one of the few US Navy types at HQ and volunteered to teach her how to shoot after a bunch of Army members failed to teach her how to shoot. I first went all the way back to having her use a water pistol to get on the path to (re)qualification. I also used two pellet pistols; one with and one without blow back for the progression eventually getting her shooting downloaded .45 caliber rounds and finally a regulation cartridge.
She managed to get (re)qualified and not discharged.
Go NAVY! BEAT Army.
shootski
Shootski-
‘Go Navy, Beat Army’
??!?!??
Just drive the boat and get us on the beach and send donuts!!
pacoinohio,
Go NAVY, Beat Army! Is only in Athletics…
e.g., the Army-Navy Football game played by the Black Knights team from Military Academy at West Point and the Naval Academy at Annapolis Midshipman.
Although i learned to “drive” up to 40′ utility boats the larger ships i learned to Conn*. Most of the time i was just interested in launching and recovering on the really big ones. Never delivered donuts and only ever delivered Marines to the beach. I did however provide Indications & Warnings along with Battle Damage Assessments to Army units on the Battle Field on numerous occasions.
I’m just glad i could save the career of someone who was very good at her Intel job; just not at the role of Operator in the Field.
shootski
*One of the most important principles of ship handling is that there be no ambiguity as to who is controlling the movements of the ship. One person gives orders to the ship’s engine, rudder, lines, and ground tackle. This person is said to have the “conn.”
Shootski-
I have only limited knowledge of anything Navy. A brief bit of time depending on the brown water boats to move us around. One of the boat captain/drivers (?) brought out a box of donuts once. Best donuts ever.
pacoinohio,
Were they the Golden fried ones?
My favorite donut aboard ship was the Golden fried ones that were great with a mug of Joe on a cold night Bridge Watch.
Those are out these days from the Ships Galley: https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2015/07/12/fried-food-on-the-outs-in-changes-for-navy-chow-halls/
shootski
The day the departments quit acting as a team, we are all sunk, imho.
Speaking of D-Day – one who picked up his Cross and walked the talk.
https://aleteia.org/2025/06/05/priest-died-on-d-day-helping-enemy-soldiers-and-now-he-may-become-a-saint/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKwJaRleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFLWFZXbU9oalFjU2RZZkVBAR4bP47w8Yq6LfjBzpnynLZjRdgKCXp07Ft_ic1cXHCoNq49IWgrcVJWLN9qvg_aem_tiK94QxMpFCtWXEjGJSCfQ
Wishing everybody an enjoyable weekend.
-Y
Did the test of the Talonbolt ever progress or was it lost in a purge?
MMCM13,
It was never done.
BB
Not exactly on-topic, but shout-out to Tom who saved FM some “learning curve frustration” with the Marauder 10-pellet .22 magazine today. FM being jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none was experiencing frustration with the loading and function of the magazine, thinking it might be defective but secretly convinced it was strictly “user error,” which it was. All ended well after reading Tom’s article titled “Secrets of loading the Benjamin Marauder magazine” and watching the accompanying video, both published June 2013. All ended well. Thanks for that!
Believe it is time to pick up a spare magazine or two. Enjoy the weekend, everyone and get some shootin’ in; FM is having fun learning his Marauding ways.
FM is lucky that post was not deleted.
That was fortunate indeed. There is a lot of valuable material in this blog that hopefully will be preserved for the benefit of past, present and future airgunners.
FawltyManuel,
“There is a lot of valuable material in this blog…”
ABSOLUTELY!
Hopefully this next little bit well help a few of the readers as well: BRASS—F—
Okay what is that?
BRASS—F—: Breathe, Relax, Aim, Stop, Squeeze, Follow-through — is a great way that i learned to remember my Shooting Fundamentals.
Holding your breath at any time is bad for performance even for ONE SHOT.
Oxygen deprivation can affect your most delicate organs (all of mine seem to be delicate. ) in as little as four seconds and that certainly includes your eyes. Have you ever got blurred up while aiming? Breathe, exhale the stress out and do what you need to do but do not HOLD your breath.
This isn’t Skin Diving and even then it helps to slowly exhale rather than inflate your lungs and play Puffer fish.
Relaxing into the SHOT/shooting session is vital for controlling your mind and body. Last shot or anything else is out of your mind for the NOW. Shooting is no time to get the HUNTER HEEBIE-JEEBIES.
Aim depends on your sighting system; you do need to KNOW exactly what that entails with no doubt you know it COLD. For irons it doesn’t just mean viewing the Front Sight through the Rear Sight. For optics it doesn’t just entail putting the dot, cross hairs, or other reference on the POA.
There are many reasons in aiming why POA and POI aren’t automatically like pointing with a LASER. Be clear on what is and isn’t significant to get this next POI.
STOP i consider that as when you know now is the time to do nothing more than the next step or to STOP this shot cycle and go to step one and START all over.
Squeeze fast or slow depends on if this is target shooting or practical shooting but it is always STRAIGHT BACK with just the trigger finger doing the job.
—F— There is a reason i use three hyphens before and after the F; most shooters do not take enough time to Follow-through plain and simple it is time to record in your mind what you see and feel when the shot is taken. It is NOT time to immediately look at the target; that teaches you nothing until you have done the proper Follow-through to understand/interpret your result on target.
Thanks for this opportunity FM to blather! I hope it some of it works with your Benjamin Marauder on many, many Iguana.
shootski
The “don’t stop breathing” advice is one FM has heard before – wish had heard it earlier because recall in the Stone Age days when young FM started enjoying the shooting sports, the advice he received was “hold your breath when you draw a bead on the target.” Old habits are hard to change.
Coincidentally, this morning around breakfast time one of the pesky reptiles was roaming around the yard – just as Mrs. FM was serving breakfast. So, appreciative Worser Half had to let iggy pass through. This airgunner will be looking out for it. No marauders will be tolerated on premises. Except for the Marauder who speaks with authority, of course. 😉 Spare magazines and pellets have been ordered from Pyramyd.