Walther LP53. Mine was made in the 1950s.
Part 1
Part 2
Fixing the Walther LP53 James Bond airgun
This report includes:
- Wake up the powerplant
- RWS Hobby
- Discharge sound
- Sig Match Ballistic Alloy
- H&N Excite
- Trigger pull
- Ian McKee’s 3D printed cocking device
- Summary
Today we look at the velocity of the Walther LP53 pellet pistol that reader Ian McKee repaired. I told you in Part 1 that this is a lower-powered pistol and to expect velocities in the low- to mid-300s. Today we find out.
Wake up the powerplant
Before I chronographed anything I fired two shots to “wake up” the spring-piston powerplant. That seemed to do the trick.
RWS Hobby
The first pellet I tested was the 7-grain RWS Hobby. They fit the breech tight because of a wider skirt. Ten pellets averaged 321 f.p.s., which is about what I expected from this pistol.
The low was 298 and the high was 333 f.p.s. That’s a difference of 35 f.p.s. I sort of remember wide velocity spreads with my other LP53s.
At the average velocity this pellet generated 1.6 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle.
Discharge sound
The pistol is not noisy. It recorded 92.9 dB upon firing.
Sig Match Ballistic Alloy
Ten 5.25-grain Sig Match Ballistic Alloy wadcutters averaged—well, this one takes some explaining. I’ll show you an 11-shot string and ten describe what happened.
Shot……….Vel.
1……………397
2……………418
3……………413
4……………407
5……………376
6……………404
7……………405
8……………364 ** This is the oddball
9……………396
10………….403
11………….407
The average for that string is 399 f.p.s. but shot 8 was an anomaly. The pellet hit the pellet trap box 6 inches higher than the others, which means it had a longer trip between the two skyscreens. If that isn’t clear to anyone I’ll write a report on it because it is a fundamental element of using a chronograph.
I know the velocity of shot number 5 is close to shot 8 but it struck the box in the same place as the other nine, so I’m counting it in the string. If we drop shot 8 from the string the average for 10 shots becomes 403 f.p.s. which is 4 f.p.s. faster. I think that is the real average for this pellet.
If what I say is correct there is a 42 f.p.s. difference between the low velocity of 376 and the high of 418 f.p.s. And at the average velocity I gave (403 f.p.s.) this pellet generated 1.89 foot-pounds at the muzzle.
H&N Excite
Remember I said I want to include H&N Excite wadcutters in future tests? There are actually two different .177-caliber pellets. I am shooting the one that weighs 7.48 grains. They fit loosely in the LP53 breech which may be why they averaged so much faster than the lighter Hobbys. And we have another anomaly with this pellet.
This is something I have seen in numerous velocity tests in the past but I don’t think I’ve ever mentioned it. The first pellet in the string goes out either faster or slower than the remainder of the shots—depending on whether the pellet in the previous string shot faster or slower. In this case it was the first two pellets. Let’s look at the entire string.
Shot……….Vel.
1……………372
2……………384
3……………355
4……………354
5……………364
6……………359
7……………364
8……………350
9……………353
10………….359
11………….354
12………….362
The average for this string of 12 is 361 f.p.s., but if we drop the first two velocities the average is 357 f.p.s. This isn’t a great difference but I mention it because I have seen this same faster/slower relationship in hundreds of velocity tests over the years. Maybe I should do an experiment and write a report about it?
If we take what I believe to be the true average for this pellet (357 f.p.s.) it generated 2.12 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle. And that’s another lesson. Lighter pellets will usually generate higher power in spring guns. The Hobby’s large skirt probably slowed it down just a bit.
Trigger pull
The trigger releases with a 2 pound 8 ounce / 1133.98 gram pull. The pull feels single-stage to me.
Ian McKee’s 3D printed cocking device
I used the cocking aid Ian printed for the LP53. It is FAR more comfortable than the wooden aid I bought from John Groenewold!
The printed cocking aid covers the front sight completely! It is my preferred cocking aid.
Summary
From what I now see this LP53 is functioning as it should and is ready for an accuracy test. The velocities we see are exactly what I expected. Ian did a great job resuscitating this air pistol.
B.B.
Lovely!
-Y
Tom,
Since the seal is still relatively new it might take a tin before this pistol actually settles down and gives a more consistent velocity. Then again you have a lot on your plate and you have to go on to the next item down the list.
Siraniko
Siraniko,
Yeah. I’m lucky to shoot this one once every two months!
BB
I will selflessly volunteer to shoot this pistol, break in the new seal, and then return it to B.B. for the velocity test.
I would consider this a ‘BB’ pistol … ‘Before Bean’ counters had a say in things and ideas were free to explore.
Unfortunately, this reminds me I still haven’t found my new Ruger Mk 4 pellet pistol. Another intriguing spring pellet pistol that departed from the norm. Looking for it more may actually help, I guess.
PAIR has them.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/ruger-mark-iv-pellet-pistol?cjdata=MXxOfDB8WXww&m=5345&utm_source=commission_junction&utm_medium=affiliate_program&utm_campaign=PyramydAir&utm_term=Archer+Airguns+Inc.&cjevent=42d5eb6c833a11f0831b005c0a82b838
It is amazing to see this very cool pistol being brought back to life and tested. Looking forward to the accuracy tests. Thanks BB and Ian!
At one time I dreamed of owning one of these.
I used to really like the Polish copy of this pistol. It was very accurate, but the trigger was what I considered horrible. I almost wish I had hung on to it and see if I could improve the trigger some. Ah well, there are so many “old gals” out there.
I for one would be most interested in any chronograph experiments concerning anomalies you have seen over the years. I am having a bit of trouble wrapping my head around what you mean that the Sig pellet “had a longer trip between the two skyscreens”.
In case any of you missed it, the North Carolina Airgun Show will be October 10th and 11th. My grandson and I will have a table there with a few baubles for sale and maybe an “old gal” or two on display to drool over.
https://www.tmacsairgunservice.com/
See ya there! 🙂
RR,
I addressed the “the Sig pellet “had a longer trip between the two skyscreens” problem in the following report.
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2016/03/chronograph-tips-2/
BB
BB,
I think I understand what you were saying now.