Umarex Markpoint air pistol.
This report covers:
- The test
- Falcon
- H&N Finale Match Light
- Qiang Yuan Training
- H&N Excite wadcutters
- Air Arms 8.44-grain dome
- Trigger
- Accuracy
- Discussion
- Summary
Today we finish the accuracy test of the Umarex Markpoint pistol after the lawyer trigger spring was removed and the trigger was lubed with SLIP 2000 EWL. There are a couple surprises in store! Let’s get to it.
The test
The pistol was shot at 10 meters with the barrel resting on a sandbag. I wore the 1.25 diopter reading glasses to see the sights that are some of the very best non target-pistol sights I have ever used. You don’t need a scope or a dot sight; these work perfect!
I shot 5-shot groups with each pellet tested and the pellets are the same ones that were used in Part 3. I even shot them in the same order.
Falcon
The first pellet shot was the Air Arms Falcon. In Part 3 they printed a 0.77-inch group. Today five went into 1.791-inches. There were no called pulls. They also landed higher on the target paper. It was like I was shooting a different pellet, but I wasn’t.
The Markpoint put five Air Arms Falcons into 1.791-inches at 10 meters.
H&N Finale Match Light
The second pellet tested was the H&N Finale Match Light wadcutter. In Part 3 they made a 1.021-inch group. Today five went into 1.258-inches at 10 meters.Today’s pellets are more centered in the target than they were in Part 3.
The Markpoint put five H&N Finale Match Light pellets into a 1.258-inch group at 10 meters.
Qiang Yuan Training
Next up were five Qiang Yuan Training wadcutters. In Part 3 these were the most accurate with five going into 0.76-inches at 10 meters. Today they were also the most accurate with five making a 0.961-inch group at 10 meters.
The Markpoint put five Qiang Yuan Training pellets into a 0.961-inch group at 10 meters.
H&N Excite wadcutters
The fourth pellet tested was the H&N Excite wadcutter. In Part 3 five went into 0.841-inches at 10 meters. Today five made a 1.377-inch group at 10 meters.
Five H&N Excite wadcutters made a 1.377-inch group at 10 meters.
Air Arms 8.44-grain dome
The final pellet I shot was the Air Arms 8.44-grain dome. In Part 3 five made a 2.03-inch group at 10 meters. It was the worst group of that test.
Today five went into 1.086-inches. It was the second-best group of the day and also the first surprise I told you about at the beginning. I said in Part 3 “This is obviously not a good pellet for this pistol.” This demonstrates that sometimes things that seem obvious, aren’t!
Five Air Arms 8.44-grain domes went into 1.086-inches at 10 meters.
Trigger
In Part 4 I said the trigger pull became lighter but still had creep after the lawyer trigger spring was removed and the trigger was lubricated with SLIP 2000 EWL. Well, that changed during this test. The trigger is still hard to pull, though I now do it with one finger. But all the creep has gone. That’s surprise number two.
Accuracy
I want you to look at those groups again. Some people focus on the numbers instead of the results, which are the groups. This Markpoint pistol is shooting about as accurately as a Crosman Mark I target pistol. And for many pellets the sights are exactly where they need to be.
I got this pistol to shoot darts—remember? But it is turning out to be a rather accurate pellet pistol. It’s not that powerful, but for plinking at soda cans I don’t think you need more.
Discussion
Notice that four of the five groups today are larger than they were in Part 3. Lightening the trigger pull did nothing to improve accuracy. But using SLIP 2000 EWL to lube the trigger did remove the creep. That lube is such a great one for shooters!
Summary
The Umarex Markpoint is turning out to be a great air pistol. It’s made of plastic and will not last as an heirloom airgun, but I think it’s great as an inexpensive plinker. But if you have any interest now is the time to act because the tariff on Chinese goods will no doubt increase prices of imported items in the future.
We are not finished with our look at this airgun. I still want to try it with darts, which was the whole reason for testing the pistol to begin with!
Tom,
Trigger snobs should look away. But looking objectively at the pistol’s price and performance it is very reasonable. Maybe you ought to put a picture of how the target looks to you from where you are standing at times because the close up pictures of the groups created seem to make the target groups bigger than they actually are. 2 inches sounds like a big group but looking at the target 10 meters away that is good enough for an economy pistol. Yes a dedicated 10 meter pistol will definitely shoot smaller groups but how much would one cost?
Siraniko
Siraniko,
You would need to buy more than thirty of these Umarex Markpoint air pistols to equal the price of one dedicated 10-meter air pistol.
I really should look away though as I am one of those trigger snobs. The real reason I am looking away is I already have several air pistols living here at RRHFWA, one of which is a dedicated 10-meter air pistol and one of which is a dedicated dart shooter.
Now, if I was so inclined to support Uncle Xi, this would be my second choice. I still prefer the Diana p-five over this, but this does have a rather attractive price.
BB,
She’s turning out to be a great plinker, for sure. 😉
I hope you had a blessed and happy Easter!
Blessings to you,
dave
seems to be an overall nice cheap pistol once the extra trigger spring is addressed. i’ll get one eventually. i already have the buckmark and both colors of the mark iv for darts indoors. i will probably use the markpoint with pellets outside. any news on when the air venturi bullseye will be available? i still need to get the mtr sighted in with it’s dot sight. depending how it groups afterwards i may switch to my silver .177 hw30 (haven’t shot that yet). my next purchase will be one in .22 although they’ve gone up (tariff?) about $30. i haven’t decided which trim i’ll get, i’m leaning towards the base model. maybe another silver maybe the regular deluxe. i painted some new targets today. picture attached. i’m also thinking i want a diana 48 soon and will get a 12 ft lb spring for it. most likely .22 just out of personal preference. although i really haven’t minded loading .177’s in the mtr. probably just the nature of the beast with break barrels for ease of loading but i just find .22.’s so much easier to fumble with in anything else. maybe i’ll take the red laminate 125 jubilee hw50 out some this year. i only put 8 pellets through it last year. it just seemed a bit too hard hitting/ loud plink on metal in my unfortunate residential area. at least i’m the last house on the street. the only time someone called about me (7, 8+ years ago now), when the police arrived they had no issue with what i was doing and we wished each other good day.
I like your targets.
springman3K,
I like your targets too, I can’t believe you made sure to include the white trim! Nice job!
RR and Will, thanks. i got them online just search mouse rimfire target. they are a bit heavy. tomorrow i plan to see if .177 can even knock them over
I just might look for those.
Was that on purpose?
yes, they were bare steel. i cleaned them with 91% isopropyl, base coat was gloss rustoleum ivory, let that dry a day, used painter’s tape where i thought it would look right to stay ivory, and the rest gloss chestnut. the underside of the base plate also stayed ivory for visibility on the unlikely chance they go flying but i doubt anything i have would do more than tip them over. i would have preferred 1/8” steel but these are what was commercially available
springman3000,
“it just seemed a bit too hard hitting/ loud plink on metal in my unfortunate residential area.”
You need to check out the information on the rubber mulch in a cardboard box projectile trap:
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/?s=Rubber+Mulch+Trap
You and your neighbors will hardly hear anything other than perhaps your airgun.
shootski
long time reader so i have seen that. the 50 is the hardest shooting airgun i have so it’s really the only one i would need it for. i may just have to make one at some point. thinking about it more though i haven’t yet simply because of the consumable nature of the boxes, but i do suppose another idea could be to only shoot one side of the box so as to keep the integrity of the box as a whole, and tape on and replace some cut to fit squares of cardboard as needed. similar to how i have replaced the foam backing in my wooden bb trap. i mostly only shoot paper when sighting in various airguns and then when they’re on target my go to’s are knockovers, spinners (my favorite being the bottle silhouette), and resetting bullseye silhouettes like the crosman squirrel or this penguin that i opted to paint as well as a few more. bb guns though are strictly paper with the non ricochet wood/foam trap, so i could use them with a rubber mulch trap too.
oh and i almost forgot- my resetting knockover 4 duck shooting gallery trap. yes i painted them yellow. i might have too many targets…
springman3000,
Lucky you to have a target rich environment. I doubt you will ever get bored.
Siraniko
You can never have too many.
Nice.
“I want you to look at those groups again. Some people focus on the numbers instead of the results, which are the groups.”
BB, so many of the holes in the targets are irregular shaped. Even the ones associated with the wadcutter type pellets. This suggests to me that the pellets are likely tumbling by the time they reach the 10-meters distance. It might be interesting to see if this also happens at a shorter distance. I am guessing that you will shoot darts at a shorter distance anyway. Maybe you could try a few pellets while you are at it?
Elmer,
You may have a point with the low output of this air pistol. The holes from the wadcutters should be a little neater, you would think anyway.
Elmer,
I think the pellets are tearing the paper instead of punching it. But when I test the darts I can test a pellet.
BB
Elmer Fudd,
I have noticed that if it is humid and i’m shooting outside that as the Target Paper moisture content increases the holes get progressively more ragged regardless of pellet head shape or projectile caliber. What do you think?
Just an unvalidated observation over the years.
Perhaps others can share their observations.
shootski
Yes, Shootski, there are several variables that I think could cause it and high humidity is one of them. Another one might be the cardboard backer (if using one) already having holes in it from earlier target shooting. Recently I was shooting my Crosman 760 and the Crosman pellets were tumbling. I could readily see that by the shapes of their holes in the target. I suspect that was because the pellets were a loose fit for the smooth barrel. The Crosman pellets, being made from a harder alloy, don’t seem to expand their skirts enough to fit the barrel when shot. Several other pellets (made from softer lead) did much better and didn’t appear to be tumbling.
BB,
As I said to Siraniko, if not for the fact that I have so many air pistols already here, I might give serious consideration to this one. I do need some more “Pure Awesome” for my Texan LSS though. I also need a dartboard for my new garage and my rebuilt Webley Junior.
Remember RR, one thing it has going for it as far as you are concerned is – no “glowy-thingy” sights.
FM,
So true. At least one manufacturer has figured out that “glowy-thingy” sights are more expensive than just plain sights and some of us just do not like those things. I am looking forward to the day when the airgun manufacturers come to the realization that we do not care for those throw away scopes either.
RidgeRunner,
Nothing to see here…move along. ;^)
Too soon old, too late schmart!
shootski
shootski,
already gone.
BB
Did you use Slip 2000 EWL 30 or another variant?
Deck
Deck,
Let’s see. Friday’s report (Part 4) says I used SLIP 2000 EWL. Yes, it is EWL 30.
BB
BB
Thanks, I have it on hand having been enabled by you when you first tested this lube.
Do all who comment have to “login” each time?
Deck
Deck,
They shouldn’t need to log in more than one time. Of course if they close the web page or shut off their computer everything is new again.
BB
Okay, so closing the web page is the difference. Use to have a month before login was needed.
Deck
I’ve owned mine for well over a month now, and after filing the front sight a bit, removing the trigger bar spring, and lubing the trigger, it’s a very capable can cutter at 25 ft in the basement. (That’s all I really wanted it for, besides messing around with darts, which I haven’t tried yet.)
Has anyone figured out how to access the spring thru the cocking slot? I think a small dose of TIAT could really improve the enjoyment of the shot cycle.
B.B.
You call that accuracy????
Glad the trigger pull has improved.
But those groups are lousy….
-Yogi
Yogi,
Okay, why don’t you shoot a target at 10 meters with an air pistol and post your groups here. I did my best but I’d enjoy seeing a what star shooter can do.
BB
B.B.
I will go to the range on Wednesday and see what happens.
However, you are the pistol shooter who once shot (I believe) 475 out of 500.
That pistol, might on a good day have a double digit number.
-Yogi
PS I must say with that still HORRIBLE trigger, you did pretty good.
I’d recommend hitting it with a hammer. If that does not help, get a bigger hammer.
B.B.
Not sure if you want me to post here or on the next chapter of Markpoint. I also believe that the close in zoom on your targets makes the spce between hole bigger.
Anyway, went to the range and shot two targets ( it will only let me post one target), one called flier per target. It was very windy, 25 mph gust. My cardboard target holder got blown of the wooden frame twice while I was shooting. Most of the guys at the range were just standing around talking and not shooting.
FWIW-I did not feel like adjusting my sights. Instead of a full moon sight picture, I used a FULL LUNAR ECLIPE sight picture. I lined everything up with the very top of the target.
-Yogi
PS Tom considering the horrible trigger your groups were excellent.
PPS. When I was 11 and just starting out shooting 50ft, 22lr, NRA Marksmanship Program. I did quite well with a Remington with a decent trigger. Because I wa doing so well, I was FORCED to shoot a Mossberg with a crappy 6 lbs trigger. I quite shooting for 11 years because of that HORRIBLE trigger. Now my motto is, ” life is too short to shoot a crappy trigger”. Amen.
HERE IS #2.
-Y
Yogi,
The gauntlet has been thrown down!
shootski
Thrown down the gauntlet has been!
B.B. certainly this pistol is accurate and precise enough for its intended use and price point.
However, I was rather surprised that after “improving” the trigger, lightening the pull and lubricating away the creep, that the pistol had worse groups than before. Were you using a two-hand hold with this test? Or, perhaps the creep helped you predict the moment of sear release in the previous part, and without creep, you were guessing when the release would occur? Just curious why the performance was worse this time.
Roamin,
I have no clue why that happened the way that it did. I just reported it.
BB
Fair enough.
Picked up my High-Powered CO2 SVD Dragunov Sniper Rifle BB gun today. I have mixed feelings about it.
It is a real big attention getter about 4′ long. A stretched-out AK-47. The added QD side scope mount is somewhat high, but you can remove the bolt access cover without removing it.
It was not exactly cheap for a BB rifle but a great replica. Almost all metal, steel, zinc alloy, wood polymer stocks. Real wood replacements out there but for a BB gun, I will pass. Really long but not too heavy at all.
Rear sight has vertical but no windage adjustment and about 1/8″ side to side slop from a loose hinge point. A hang over from its Airsoft origin where accuracy is not paramount.
‘Good luck’ sights! I would not consider it for serious target practice, but using a scope may change that some?
The inner brass barrel is just about 2′ long.
It has a few things that may keep it from being a user-friendly airgun, but 500+ fps may help there.
1. It’s a replica of a long-range sniper and not setup for close range bb shooting, high scope.
2. it’s an Airsoft conversion and on top of that it’s a CO2 conversion from a spring piston or a green gas mag. The CO2 cartridge is inserted into a removable compression chamber tube with a spring-loaded air valve at the front. It in turn is installed into the old spring piston compression tube. So, the ‘CO2 bolt’ must be removed from the bolt carrier compression tube to install a CO2 cartridge. Top cover removal required.
The bolt carrier / CO2 bolt springs and holder must also be removed, same as an AK47, easy.
3. The Co2 cartridge neck piercing seal fell out when I opened the CO2 compartment tube bolt. 🙁
The spring-loaded CO2 ‘Bolt’ is actually used as a hammer. When released it slams forward, and pops open the enclosed air valve stem in front releasing CO2 through it. Its spring appears to be infinitely adjustable using washer shims for power adjustments. At least until it unseats the air valve and prevents it from closing again.
Not shot today. If you like shooting replicas of real firearms you can deal with any of the negatives, or inconveniences but it should also be a primary reason for getting it. At least until I shoot it to see how accurate it is.
The grip is squared off, like the original and best approached from the side with your thumb and fingers wrapped around the front and back of it instead of your thumb web in back in the traditional way.
My email is down for another day or two so no pictures yet to transfer. Can’t wait to shoot this one.
Bob
I don’t know if you have a collection of airsoft guns but I can tell that it can be an “addiction” really fast. Especially If having an unlimited budget… To be honest I always thought that airsoft is mostly for people who are restricted from having firearms like Europe, Japan and so on. Not USA. In this sense it was the solution for me to have full auto replicas of SEAL Team 6’s toys.
The only suggestion that I have is to invest in quality and look for bargains/sales. I have found a full steel and wood AKSU 74 for the price of a low cost replica just because it was the last one left for months. I ‘m sure that you can do way much better and wish you good luck in this journey.
Already been there Bill. There were no military replica airguns except for airsoft at the time.
Still waiting for an M60 and M249 airgun. Have the airsoft versions.
A nice M14 EBR or Ares DSR-1 pellet or even BB shooter with select fire would replace my airsoft ones. I don’t expect to see to many ‘exotic’ Tactical airguns from the usual airgun companies but the airsoft ones already exist, and conversions are not that hard. Looks like they issue limited runs. Probably not a huge market. Just collectors? Snooze and you lose getting one.
Still thinking about sliding a PCP into my CheyTac M200 Intervention. Put a Benjamin Wildfire ( Wi-FI) PCP into a M249 already.
I was starting to convert them into BB or pellet rifles when all hell broke loose in the select-fire airgun world, and my conversions came to a halt. They finally started to come out with some nice tactical PCPs and the Western Airguns Sidewinder select fire PCP filled my desire for a Tactical accurate, powerful, select fire PCP. The wait is over.
This SVD came already converted to shoot steel BBs, partner to the airsoft one now. With a little work they may even come out with a steel BB shooting IMI Galil. The AKs are out and with a little cosmetic work it could happen.
Don’t care to cover my yard in little white plastic balls.
Thanks for the warning anyway!
Some of those little plastic balls are biodegradable, though….maybe the green ones.
;o)
Roamin,
Yes I have some, but they are a bit heavier and reduce performance some.
Everything will eventually degrade over time but I’m not sure if i jumped from the pan into the fire.
Will hundreds of lead pellets leach into my ground water? I have a well. Need a capture box for targets.
I have a plastic bottle of 6000 Copperhead BBs that rusted in the jar before I opened it.
Bob M,
Shipmate, you should have your private well water tested regardless of your pellet habits! There is other stuff in the soil that is potentially far more of a problem.
The good news:
When lead is exposed to the environment, it forms a protective layer of lead oxide, which can help reduce leaching.
The moderately good news:
It only typically leaches a few inches a decade since it isn’t considered very mobile in soil.
The bad news:
Some exceptions exist like when it is exposed to highly acidic water.
shootski
Shootski,
Thanks, nice to know info. I use bottled water for food and drinking; the well was a little alkaline but OK. Growing fond of microplastics, may not need to be embalmed when I pass.
Bob M
“I have a plastic bottle of 6000 Copperhead BBs that rusted in the jar before I opened it.”
I have more than a few tins of big store pellets that are graying with age. I may as well use them in a couple of big store airguns I still shoot. No way I’m going to wash and lube these fishing weights. I bought them when I didn’t know better 10+ years ago just hoping some brand type would be accurate. My learning was a bit slow.
Deck