Can PCPs get much cheaper? – TNT Episode 5
In the 5th episode Tom reminisces about Benjamin Discovery, Benjamin Marauder, and how the PCP market get really started 10+ years ago. Maybe some secrets are spilled about what’s coming. Maybe not. Watch to find out.
Below are links to the 4 prior episodes in case you missed them.
Spring Break Barrels are dead – TNT Episode 4
Long Range airgun shots – TNT Episode 3
Tom Gaylord (B.B. Pelletier)
Tom Gaylord is known as The Godfather of Airguns™ and has been an airgunner for over a half-century, but it was the Beeman company in the 1970s that awoke a serious interest in airguns. Until then, all he knew were the inexpensive American airguns. Through the pages of the Beeman catalog, he learned about adult airguns for the first time.
In 1994, Tom started The Airgun Letter with his wife, Edith. This monthly newsletter was designed to bring serious reports about airguns to the American public. The newsletter and Airgun Revue, a sister magazine about collectible airguns, was published from 1994 until 2002, when Tom started Airgun Illustrated -- the first American newsstand magazine about airguns.
Tom worked for three years as technical director at AirForce Airguns, the makers of the Talon, Condor, and Escape precharged air rifles. Today, he writes about airguns and firearms for various publications and websites. He also makes videos, and you'll find short clips embedded in some of his artices on Pyramyd Air's website.
Tom is a consultant to Pyramyd Air and writes under the name of B.B. Pelletier.
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I’d rather have quality, not cheap.
Crisp 2 stage trigger, good quality barrel, good looking wood stock, balanced power, windage / elevation adjustable precision iron sights, no fiber optics.
Right now, people have money, and demand is good – but there is not sufficient supply. Supply chain issues are here to stay. Market will soon get used to the high prices. It is time to deliver quality, not cheap junk.
Invest in one quality PCP – rather than buying one trash product after another.
I have watched all episodes so far and here are my thoughts:
I like to see and hear Tom’n’Tyler, but instead of having to beat about the bush, I would prefer topics that both can feel entirely free to talk about. Maybe the history of already available items?
I would really like to learn both their personal opinions !
PS it would be nice to be introduced to each of the guns in the background
Tyl3er,
Wow! I learned a lot from this one!
😉
Tom
I am waiting for the ‘everybody’ PCP. For example, a Red Ryder with an injection or blow-molded plastic butt flask that fills with a bicycle pump (150 psi?), gets about 250 fps and 30 shots per fill. (I can dream, can’t I?)
Bill
I’m with Fish on the quality-vs-cheap debate. Cheap ain’t good and good ain’t cheap. It has been done, at reasonable prices.
I enjoyed this very much. I do believe that we will start seeing good quality airguns showing up in the $400-$800 range very shortly. They are already showing up if you know where to look.
I also would like to see lower pressures. I have a Maximus. At 2000 PSI I get 20-25 shots. Some of the old PCPs operated at 500-800 PSI and offered multiple shots. You do not need 8000+ PSI.
TNT.,
New twist to the Log In issues: first log in resulted in the typical do it again issue. Second log in resulted in a page with: Failure to establish database connection huh? One more try finally got a successful Log On.
The issue with making a cheaper class of PCP isn’t really technical as you both well know; the problem is what is the population at that price point wanting. It appears to me from just reading the Blog that there are two camps that could be targeted:. The first wants a supper soaker that will shoot pellets or at least bb at 750+ FPS using a bicycle pump as the pressurized air source. The second wants high tech black rifle furniture, toped with a Swarovski scope, or at least a Leupold Tactical 34mm) and enough muzzle velocity (at least 1,650 FPS) in .22 caliber to effectively hunt Elk at over 150 yards.
That takes some real volume sales that even Tyler Patner’s superb work ethic and warehouse picking technique couldn’t sustain!
But then again…Never say Never!
shootski
shootski,
When you get the datav=-base message, just refresh your browser and the page will come up.
BB
shootski,
When you get the database message, just refresh your browser and the page will come up.
BB
BB,
Thanks,
shootski
BB/Tyler,
Another home run. Wow, Thanks, Great topic. I too like the idea of “lower” pressure air guns. I thought the Disco was great. By the time I held one, they stopped making them. Did they not sell well? The only 2000 psi gun I see now is the Beeman Chief? I think there is a market there.
Doc