Page 3 - Hatsan Model 25 Supercharger QE Reviews

The design is very nice, reminds me of my old Walther break action pistol with the wooden knob cocking aid I had back in the 60's. Should have kept that thing! $$$ today.

Not much, maybe reduce the sloppy feel of the action/XRS system.

I wanted to like this pistol but pulling it from the box and having the upper action wobble in the grip bothered me. I didn't understand what the "XRS" recoil thing was. After a few emails with tech team and actually pulling the action to see for my self I decided I could live with it. It does seem a bit fussy to think of "recoil" in an air gun but I've shot 45 Auto and 44 Magnum handguns all my life so I'm not bothered by recoil.

It shoots nicely but won't know how accurate until I mount my hand gun scope on it. I'd recommend it if you can deal with the character of the XRS.

The feeling of power this has when fired. COOOOOL.

Don't expect either of the trigger setting screws to make any tangible difference. If you can actually turn them w/o stripping the soft metal screw heads. Just so it's understood. This is not just my Mod 25 but two other guys at my club have same issue. The aspect of the sights make accuracy even harder, IMHO. Diameter of both front and back are way too big. They are easy to see though. Don't even think of using a pistol sight on this one. I bored a stop post which held it snug but scope had a quick nervous breakdown. Nothing unforeseeable with this monster, but just wanted to mention (BSA 2x20 Pistol Scope, Duplex Reticle)

Again it is cool to shoot. If you like offhand shooting then start pumping iron! But the sights and the useless trigger adjustment -- LOONG trigger travel on mine -- detract from the experience.
Did I mention it's COOOL to shoot! Lol, it is. I would prabably buy it again just to play around with can and bottle shooting at etc, but knowing what I was getting into makes a purchase like this a different experience. So, IMHO, heads up.

Oh, had to send it back to Hatsan twice as it stopped cocking in mid-stroke.

Left handed grip

I was excepting more power.

Again hard to site in, better manual would help

This is a well made pistol. I have the M25 in both .177 and .22. I am impressed with the accuracy of both calibers but for me the .177 has the edge. Tested with several brands of pellets the point of impact is the same with all pellets tested

The trigger adjusting screws are useless. They come bottomed out with no adjustment possible. The trigger pull is stiff and creepy. I can deal with it but a longer screw would make life easier.

The hard cocking takes some getting used to but not a real problem for an adult.

This is only the second pellet pistol I have owned. The first was a Daisy 717, an accurate though underpowered gun. I enjoyed it for many thousands of shots but always wanted something with serious power but still highly accurate. The Hatsan 25 fit the bill perfectly. If you do your part, it is very accurate and will challenge your shooting skills very satisfyingly. For the price, this is a very good value. You'll have lots of money left for optical sights!

The grips are a bit narrow for my tastes and needs to support the hand better when cocking the pistol. It does take some strength so warm up before you start shooting! The trigger is a serious concern and took some work to get it how I like it. The adjustment screws did not seem to have much effect and were already screwed in fully when the gun arrived. Hatsan is promoting this trigger system aggressively, but it needs development. The XRS recoil reduction system is novel and does operate. However the fit of the rails between the grip and the receiver needs to be more precise. If the trigger is heavy, pressure on it will cause these parts to shift, affecting the sight picture during the shot. If you can get the trigger lightened down enough, it won't be a problem. I'd also add a hole for the weaver mount anchoring screw. Finger support for the left hand, on and ahead of the trigger guard, would be nice. Many shooters like to have the left hand a bit ahead of the right when shooting.

This gun kicks a good bit! If you plan on mounting red dot or scope sights, take extra care. It has been a real challenge to keep them from moving while firing. I tightened as much as I could, but slowly but surely, the scope moves.
Be sure to shoot a large variety of pellets from a rest to determine what your gun likes. It was amazing how different the results were. The pellet variety packs are lots of fun to experiment with and tell you a lot about your gun. After I settled on a particular pellet, the gun shoots very well. At 40 feet (in my basement) it will group five pellets touching each other (from a rest, with a pistol scope).
It's a bit heavy for off hand shooting, especially with he scope mounted, but is very accurate and satisfying.
These piston powered guns will begin to move before the pellet leaves the gun, so follow through is critical for accuracy.

This is a real neat springer pistol, tack driver with a good scope

Trigger is a real problem, there are fixes but I think the factory could have done a better job with out cost.

Make sure you have a good scope mount, and a good scope, consider a droop compensator mine had some barrel droop or the mounts were to tall, I put the UTG adjustable mount on mine after the first mount failed and then the center point scope failed.

The weigh, Feel, Cocking handle, Automatic safety, Adjustable from and rear sites, Velocity, Fiber optic sites, Great Accuracy

Except for the barrel drop, I love shooting this gun.

My gun has a case of barrel droop. I have modified the front and rear sites to compensate, but it still needs work. My mods are ok for shooting in my garage, but probably not sufficent to shoot it outside. Even with the droop, I realy enjoy shooting this gun. Since getting it, I have shot it more than any gun I own. I have never given it a rest with other guns in the closet.

Accurate for what this pistol costs. Powerful and nice to shoot. Overall a really nice gun for the money.

Cocking is really hard. I don't have a big problem, but someone that is not strong could have.

this is my second purchase from pyramid air, and I must say I am totally satisfied with this gun. it will hit anything I aim at.the gun is well made and good looking and is plenty powerfull.

just a suggestion...offer a rifle stock as a quick change fit up so it can be used as a carbine.PS I made my own to improve this fine shooter.

good solid gun, good price, very accurate.

Power is impressive but it is truly useless w/o scope ability.

Weaver or pic rails instead of useless dovetail. Sights move along rail when firing gun. So far, with five sights/adapters, tried out using my wasted purchases and their equipment all of which work on their various pistols. These include Leapers one piece Accushot, Sportsmatch Extra High, Bklone piece and two different red dot's.

I have tried 5 dovetail scopes from Red Dot to Edge Pistol Scope and a weaver adapter too and NOTHING sits still on this gun. Every single one of these sights or adapters have crept down the barrel. Some after every single shot, no matter how tight, no matter if I used loctite. Nothing. I really like this gun and w/o a sight to shoot at further targets I feel I'm not getting the use of the full power this gun has. In fact I feel like I've been tricked. Why put a dovetail on at all if nothing works? More honest to advertise that it is non-scopeable as this is truly the case. I'd like to mention that three of the sight choices were "guaranteed" by a pyramid expert to "not creep at all". Offset dovetail adapter - et al. Anybody have better luck? I want to LOVE this gun but w/o sights I just am moderately impressed by the power (which can't be actually used to full potential)

felt heavy but strong, the sights were very good, the power was very powerful for a pistol, the trigger was good, accuracy was another story

the one I got had a defective breech crown, it was not correctly machined at the factory, I used a 20x stereo scope to be sure, the pellets did not go in all the way and sat crooked, the work around was to push the pellets in further and that worked giving acceptable groups on target, but I chose to return it and get the webley alecto

this could have been a fun pistol, the specs and actual product should have been great, I made a 16 inch barrel extender out of 1 inch copper L tubing and heater core hose to help with cocking, if you got a good one its probably great, but the one I got was unacceptable, check the breech crown

* Quality - it's built very well. This is my second Hatsan and I'm very impressed with the quality of their products. * Price - seems very reasonable for what you get. * Sights - I like the TruGlo fiber optic sights they include with the pistol. * Grip - the pistol fits my hand well, and considering the size and weight of the pistol, it's very well balanced.

About the only thing I would change is that I would like a nitro piston option like I have on my Hatsan 125 Sniper.

I bought this in .22cal, my second .22 Hatsan (125 Sniper was my first). It's a huge pistol, though not so big that I can't hold it and shoot it with one hand. The cocking effort is much stronger than my 125 Sniper, but considering the additional barrel length on the rifle, that's not surprising. I don't know if it's the same for everyone else, but this pistol is loud - much louder than my 125 Sniper and is also louder than my Crosman 1322. Where I live, I can only get away with shooting a pellet gun if it doesn't sound like a .22 rimfire - this was getting close to that level of volume. My 125 Sniper is considerably quieter. I was hoping I could shoot this at home, but due to that sound, I may have to keep it for other places, including my local indoor range, which does allow pellet guns. Overall though, this is a fantastic pistol. The size seems a bit daunting, but it's very well balanced, so holding it seems less a chore than you might think. Accuracy so far seems to be right on, but knowing I have those adjustable TruGlo sights is a big bonus. I think it's a great pistol and a worth addition to any collection.

I had never heard of Hatsan until I purchased the 125 sniper which I found to be one of the best air rifles I have ever owned and the same is true with the Supercharger 25 pistol. The quality, accuracy of this pistol is hard to believe for the cost. It fits your hand perfectly, well balanced for such large pistol! I think it compares the RWS pistol for over 100+ more!@! The cocking aid is actually attaches to the barrel and is made out of aluminum NOT PLASTIC, so it is part of the pistol which makes it even cooler looking!! I would highly recommend this pistol!

Nothing

Powerful and accurate, even without a scope. I like this air pistol

You'll get a workout cocking this gun repeatedly, but that's also why it's powerful.

Well balanced, solid construction and definitely built to last. Great high visibility sights and fully adjustable. Adjustable trigger. Very Powerful and the cocking aid is a must.

Nothing really. This is a very well put together pistol.

I am new to today's airguns as the last ones I have shot were as a teenager which were the Daisy and Crosman 766. This is a springer pistol so it will take patience and proper form with a very consistent trigger pull. Once mastered, it's a really accurate and fun pistol. Just don't expect to be dead on accurate with it as quick as a pcp pistol. It was a challenge to get comfortable shooting this pistol, but it was worth it!

this a great air gun. the more I shoot it the more I like it. this gun at 30 yards put a round in the center. I have shoot so rim fire pistol that cant do this. great gun. I shooting crosman premier hollow points

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a little hard to cock. not for children.

pretty much everything about this pistol. its very well made.

if anything it would be to make the pistol grips so that either a right or left handed person could use it.

BUY IT!

Lots of things to like about this gun. I really like the feel, weight, trigger, sights, anti-recoil, accuracy and power. This thing hits hard and straight.

I would put a weaver rail instead of dovetails on this. I tried a red-dot but it wouldn't stay. Fortunately, the open sights are good. Cocking is a little tough but not unbearable.

Out of the box this gun seemed very "crunchy" and rough. I wasn't sure I was going to enjoy it. After a good break in, I really love this gun. It fires smooth and is a pleasure to shoot. My amateur chrony testing gave the following results (10 shots): JSB 8.44 avg 651.6 fps and the most accurate. Crosman Destroyer 7.9 699.0 fps and quite accurate. Just for fun Daisy Lead Free 5.0 913.7 fps and not as accurate but still not bad at 10m. I've tried a number of different pellets and the accuracy is still pretty solid.

I got this gun (my first "adult" airgun) because of the problems finding .22rf shells, with the intention of using it for small bore pistol league this winter. I was pleasantly surprised at how accurate it shoots at 50ft. The weight and balance are great. I will probably stick with this gun even if .22rf shells are more available this year.

I would like to see a weaver or picatinny rail. The owners manual doesn't cover cleaning and maint. very well.

If you're new to serious airguns don't get discouraged with the gun before you try a few different pellets. Cheap pellets are great for killing soda cans, but will not bring out the true potential of the gun.

This gun is heavy, and feels good in your hand. You can tell right away, just by holding it, that it's not a toy. It is built solid, and delivers a powerful punch. I have the gun in .22 caliber; using Benjamin Discoveries (14.3 grain) the gun shoots a solid 500 fps / 8 FPE. (The box claims 600 fps, but that's probably with 11 grain pellets. I'd rather shoot the heavier 14's, because in the end, weight matters more than velocity when you're talking about the amount of energy delivered to the target.) This gun is dead-on accurate under 30 meters, and even at longer ranges, it's still not bad. Out of 8 shots at a 4" wide metal post at a range of 100 yards, I hit the post 3 times, and I believe that I could have done better if it had not been at dusk when the sun was setting / light was fading.

I only wish that Hatsan (or some other manufacturer) would make a hard pistol case big (wide) enough to store the gun in, WITH the cocking extender attached. That would make me a very happy camper.

Everyone says this pistol is hard to cock; I haven't had this problem. It is very stiff, and requires a modicum of effort, but any average-strength adult male should have no problem. Remember, you're compressing a pistol-sized spring that is powerful enough to fling a 14.3 grain pellet at 500 fps! You're not cocking a Red Ryder! Plus, once your arm gets used to the amount of force that cocking requires, your muscles (ever heard of muscle memory?) anticipate the need for that force, and cocking becomes almost effortless. After you've shot about 100 or so pellets, you won't even notice the cocking effort. Also, I shoot about 500 pellets per range session, and my arm has never gotten tired. I am not a body builder, I have only average strength; but I can cock and fire this thing pretty fast, with no fatigue.