by B.B. Pelletier
Crosman’s 2240 pistol is a big, powerful CO2 pistol. It represents great value.
Before we get into today’s report, here’s an update on the Roanoke Airgun Expo. Dee Liady, Fred’s widow, is going ahead with the show exactly as it has been planned, in honor of Fred. This will probably be the largest airgun show ever held, as I expect to see a number of new tableholders who are coming for the first time, not to mention a great many new attendees. I know I plan to bring a ton of stuff with me this year. Here’s a link to a PDF of the show flier that has all the pertinent information. If you want to reserve a table, better do it soon, as there’s a limit to the number of tables the room can hold.
Okay, today is accuracy day. I shot the Crosman 2240 with the same three pellets that were used in the velocity test. These are not necessarily the best pellets for a 2240, but they’re among the best pellets in most airguns, so there’s a good chance they’ll work well. Or, perhaps, just one or two will be good.
Since the target range is indoors and the target trap is sitting on my night stand, I always check to see that the sights are aligned reasonably close to where they have to be. I don’t care about hitting the center of the bullseye, as you know, but I also don’t want to throw a stray shot into the wall behind my bed. So, I shoot the first shot at about 15 feet, and if it’s close to the aim point, I’m okay.
All shots were fired from a rest, the same as the Crosman Mark I. I shot at 10 meters, with 10 shots per pellet. I did encounter the 2240 bleeding off the power band, so I installed a new CO2 cartridge and re-shot that target.
In fact, that’s one thing I have against CO2 guns. When they start to lose power, they begin to string their shots vertically. It doesn’t matter that much to action pistol shooters, but to target shooters and hunters it’s a real pain.
Okay, on to the accuracy tests. First up was the RWS Hobby pellet.
Ten RWS Hobbys at 10 meters went into this somewhat scattered group.
After I examined the group the Hobbys made, I knew the pistol was capable of doing much better, so I played with the sights a little. I also did something that may surprise some newer owners of the 2240. The barrel band or hanger has Allen screws on the top and bottom to secure it to the barrel and CO2 reservoir. Sometimes, if the sights won’t adjust properly, it’s because the barrel is misaligned with the receiver. Loosen both of these screws and move the barrel in the necessary direction, then tighten them again. This is an old field fix for sights that don’t quite adjust far enough, so I mention it for everyone who hasn’t heard about it yet. Anyone who has taken the barrel off the gun even one time should know about this fix.
Next up were Crosman Premiers. Where Hobbys had fought me during loading because of the screw hole in the loading trough, Premiers fell into the breech like mercury down a drain. They didn’t seem to meet any resistance when the bolt went home, but I waited to see how they printed on paper.
Ten Crosman Premiers made the best group of the test. Actually, this was the second group fired, because the pistol was running out of gas during the first group.
Waiting proved to be a wise decision, because the 2240 loves Crosman premiers. Put them on your short list for this pistol.
Next up were the RWS Superdomes that everybody is telling me I have to test with more airguns. Well, this was one such test.
Ten RWS Superdomes went into a nice group that was close to the Premier group in size, but for one hole at the top.
The Superdomes proved tantalizing, because they wanted to group well but didn’t quite make it. More shooting with them might prove worthwhile.
It’s loud!
One thing Edith commented on when I was shooting was how loud the 2240 is. And two of our three cats were very vocal about their disapproval. They finally left the room I was in and retired to the quiet garage. But Punky, our Pepe LePew look-alike, decided he liked the shooting, so he came into the living room and plopped right down on the floor, no more than 10 feet from where I was shooting. There he remained throughout the test, asleep at the end!
Not a care in the world. Punky’s a gun nut.
So, some family members may not approve, but those that are easy-going will accept the 2240 in stride. This is the end of the 2240 test, but I’m still going to shoot the S&W 78G as a comparison. When I’m done, you’ll be able to compare all three pistols: the Crosman Mark I, the Crosman 2240 and the S&W 78G.
Here are the links to the Mark I reports:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Ahhh…Love this blog. A nice, friendly, quiet haven from the world of politics and work and traffic and arguement. Its like walking into and old-time, small-town barbershop.
B.B.
1) Glad your cat is mellow, not a victim of a flier!
2) Can you explain what it means to shoot a pistol from ‘a rest’?
3) How does the 2240 compare to the Benjamin EB22? The EB22’s left-handed bolt is attractive to right-handed shooters. Do the EB22’s upgraded materials eliminate the need for accuracy or power upgrades to the 2240? I’m thinking of the upgrades from Mac1 Airguns
http://www.mac1airgun.com/crosman.html
Thanks. The blog is an essential part of my daily reading.
Jim
Jim,
I have to give the nod to the Crosman. It is modular, so everything is possible. The Benjamin barrel is soldered to the pump tube, which limits the flexibility quite a bit. I tested the EB 22 and it isn’t as inherently accurate as the 2240.
As for shooting from a rest, look at me holding my SAA on a bag rest here: (it’s the sixth picture)
/blog/2010/09/day-at-the-range/
B.B.
B.B.
I haven’t seen bag rests like that in the various ‘shooting’ catalogs I have. Can you refer me to a source?
Thanks for the prompt reply! I hope it indicates your health is continuing to improve.
Jim
Jim,
You aren’t shopping at the right stores. Bags like mine are commonplace at stores like Midway USA.
http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?pageNum=1&tabId=4&categoryId=15821&categoryString=655***689***
B.B.
BB: I test pistols and revolvers by sitting with my back to a solid object and holding the gun in both hands, with the backs of my hands and wrists supported and clamped between my knees. I get better idea of practical, field accuracy from my guns this way.
Also , I experience similar accuracy with my EB .22 that you got with the 2240 tested today. I also get around 475 fps from mine for the first 20 shots or so. It also shoots the RWS super domes best. Mine was bought new from Pyramyd about a year ago. Just mention it for comparision, I agree with you on the 2240 as being more inherently accurate.
A little easy and quick mod that improves the stock 2240 ‘s sights is to file the top flat and even, with the sliding elevation insert ,after the gun is sighted in. This eliminates the annoying step that can occur. I learned to do this years ago with my Crosman Medalist 1300, whose rear sight is the same but is made of metal. That step effect ruins the sight picture for my eyes, and promotes elevation errors, take care ,Robert.
Robert,
That step from the sight frame is very disconcerting. I had to practice a lot to learn to ignore it when sighting. Filing sounds like a good solution.
B.B.
B.B., Robert:
I just checked the Crosman Custom shop and saw the wide range of choices possible to the ‘stock’ 2240. But for the extra money, would a 2300S, adding wood grips, be a better investment to achieve more accuracy and durability?
Thanks! This blog is a great resource!
Jim
Jim,
Do you want to end up with a .177 or a .22? Because the 2300S is .177. You can turn the 2240 into any caliber you like, from .177 through .25, and whatever barrel length seems good to you.
But the 2300S is a great pistol in its own right. You just have to decide what you want.
B.B.
Hi B.B.
Which bbl length do you recommend for the .25 caliber on the 2240?
Joe,
Is it to be a carbine or a pistol?
B.B.
carbine.
Jim K.: I’m not BB, but I do have the Benjamin pistols ,one in .22 and a older transition model Sheridan/Benjamin version in .17. You really can’t do anything to them to increase accuracy as you are stuck with the barrel length and it’s individual quality. However both of mine are as accurate as my two 2240’s were stock. The front sights are thinner, and the rear is wide, which is hard to use for some folks. They are more compact than the 2240 , and they are just as loud. I personally prefer my Benjamin EB .22 to my 2240, but that’s just me. I also like the retro look of them,Robert.
Good morning BB,
I have had all three of the pistols you are reviewing. I didn’t have the all at the same time but they are all fun guns. I like the feel of the S&W 78 best. The grip just felt best of all in my hand. I have a lefty Mk2 that I like. It shoots well for me. I preferred both of the older guns to the 2240. As I have said before, I like shooting on the low power setting and both the S&W and Mk1& 2 had this.
I bought an old Diana militia model. I thought it was a 27 but have not been able to confirm it. I posted a link to pictures on the Vintage forum and there has been some discussion about it there. Do you have any other recommendations on getting this gun properly identified? Here is a link to the pictures the previous owner took of the gun:
http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l320/blockeleven/vintage%20diana/?start=all
In any case, it’s a neat old gun and my first nearly 100 year old airgun.
David Enoch
David,
I looked at the photos, but nothing jumps out at me. I think eventually the vintage airgun forum will identify it, if it can be identified.
You know, there is always the possibility that what you have was made in India or South Africa. They made rifles that knocked off the European designs and often they didn’t mark them well.
B.B.
Thanks for looking at this. The gun has Diana markings so I am pretty sure it is a Diana. The gun is marked Diana on the receiver and has the goddess logo. It is marked Diana Luft Gewehr on the top of the barrel as well.
David Enoch
David,
You scared me! So I went back and looked at all 21 pictures, but you hadn’t shown the Diana name or logo that I could see. Whew! I thought I was losing my mind (again)!
B.B.
David: Maybe a Australian or New Zealand gun?
Good Morning B.B.
I’ve got a 2240 that I had modded and converted to HPA (high pressure air). It’s only getting about 20 good shots at 12fpe now, but they’re real good shots:-)
The worst part about my 2240 is still the trigger. Even after the trigger upgrade, it’s still too stout for my liking, since I’m use to ounces not pounds. I think it’s down to 1.5 # now, but that many ounces would be better. I’m trying to get it set up for pistol field target in the scoped class. But I’m not sure if it’s gonna get better than the 5fpe Air Arms Alfa, I’ve been using for scoped and open sights classes both. That trigger can really get light and nice. But Tony and Ronnie shoot the modded 2240s and we trade off winning the scoped class with me shooting the Alfa, all of us shooting in the high 40s/50 at mostly 1-1/2″ kill zones from 10 to 35 yards. I don’t know if I’ll use the 2240 at the nationals or not now, might just stick with the Alfa and take off the scope for the open sight class, even though it’s only 5 fpe. It’s just too accurate and easy to shoot.
As far a pellets go, the .22cal 13.34 grain Air Arms or JSB version of the same pellet or the 15.9 gr in both brands, seem to be what most of the top 2240 shooters are using now. I like the Air Arms version best, they have a better skirt design and weigh more consistently. In the .177 cal Alfa, I like the Air Arms 7.34 Falcon best. Air Arms has their own tooling made for JSB to manufacture for them, they are NOT the same as the JSB pellets, I think they are more consistent and have a deeper and better skirt design.
I’m so glad your getting better all the time! What a blessing to be reading your great articles again!
Wacky Wayne,
Match Director,
Ashland Air Rifle Range
Oh by the way,
Tony and Ronnie are getting 3/4″ groups at 25 yards with their modded 2240s and the JSB 13.44 AA pellets. I’ve not gotten use to the trigger yet to match those groups with the 2240, but can match them with the Alfa easy. If you don’t need or want the extra power, the Alfa could be for you. I’ve got about the same into the 2240 as I do in the Alfa now, and I’m not sure I would trade the Alfa for the 2240. The Alfa is ready to go right from the box, either open sights and ready for a scope of your choice.
And the Alfa cocks from either side. Your review last year, prompted me to buy one, and I glad I did!
Wacky Wayne
BB:
At the end of a string of target photo’s seeing a cat on his back with his paws in the air. I thought the worse. LOL
Punky is made of stern stuff because the bang of a 2240 is indeed impressive.
DaveUK
BB
Thanks for these 3 reports. The 2240 has got to be one of the most popular Co2 pistols out there. I recently installed a BSA Red-Green-Blue dot sight on my 2240 and it is a great shooter. Other mods include RB grips and a trigger shoe, a Crosman steel breech and bolt and the home-brewed trigger tune and spring.
I think the greatest attraction of this pistol is the ability to modify it to you liking.
B.B.
Nothing like a nice, fat, spoiled cat.
Remember….
If the cat ain’t happy then nobody is happy. And the cat will make sure of that.
twotalon
twotalon,
Yeah, Edith saw him laying there and said I should take a picture.
It promotes the domestic tranquility.
B.B.
Always learn something when I drop by here.
I’m a very lucky man. My wife is very tolerant of my guns and my shooting but has very little interest in shooting them herself. BUT, her tolerance does not extend so far as to allow me to shoot in our bedroom.
I just emailed her a copy of today’s article so she can read where some guys are allowed to shoot targets sitting on their nightstands. I have little hope of getting permission to shoot in the master bedroom but am hopeful that the result is her being more understanding of my other airgun shooting ranges.
kevin
Kevin,
I’m not sure this will advance your cause, but Edith didn’t even get mad when I shot our couch several years ago! She trusts me, and there have been small holes in our walls from time to time.
B.B.
B.B.,
You definitely caught one of the great ones. Still one of the biggest mysteries of the universe in my observation. I humbly suggest that your new moniker be “LUCKY”.
Not for your ability to wound walls and kill couches but for finding Mrs. Gaylord.
kevin
BB: My wife doesn’t shoot ,won’t have anything to do with guns. Strange ,considering she is a country girl,even has her own tractor! She usually leaves me alone about the guns ,but didn’t like when I shot all the soap bars we had in the house testing pellet expansion.
On cats, my dad had this cat that would follow him hunting . It would sit right near him quitely , and follow him back when he went home, no matter the weather. The cat also loved glazed fresh donuts, and dad would buy him one every Sunday after church. I like to think that they are both still hunting together somewhere in the after life.
Robert,
Your father’s cat was a real pal. And glazed donuts, you say? Well, who doesn’t like them?
B.B.
One of our neighbor’s cats took up residence at our farmhouse, when I was in college. We met underneath my sports car, where I was underneath replacing a strategic bolt at the time. He and I would wander around my dad’s farm. I’d shoot fence Skinks (lizards) with my Daisy #25 and he’d eat them. Once we became separated in the lower pasture and I came home without him, thinking he’d wander home on his own. He didn’t. Two days later I walked back down to the pasture and there he was, patiently waiting for me to return and collect him. He was a great cat and companion. One day the neighbors, who were having an ongoing fight with my dad over something, stopped, threw the cat in their car and drove off with him. I never saw him again. I know the neighbors had no use for him. They were sad, frustrated people.
Morning B.B.,
What a happy contented cat! I got my 2240 last Friday. Thank you PA for the quick service again.
Yes it sure is loud, compared to what I’ve been shooting. I’m going to order a steel breach and longer barrel from Crosman.
What are people doing to quiet these guns down? Is anyone doing a shroud for them?
My first impression was–boy this pistol sure fits my hand well. Excellent fit and finish especially considering its price!
Bruce
MrB…check the yellow classifieds!Scarcely a day goes by that there isn’t an ad for barrel additions that fit the 22XX barrels,and compared to what we paid for our Condor accessory…these are a bargain.
Ditto on that, there are a ton of barrel mods out there. I made my own prototype from sprinkler pipe and parts as an experiment and easily knocked down the noise by 50% or more.
BB,
Punky is a beautiful cat, and apparently doesn’t mind the noise. When I shoot any of my pellet guns my cat Frisky runs upstairs and cries when ever I am shooting! During lulls in the shooting the crying stops.
Go figure?
pcp4me,
Punky is more like a dog than a cat. He’s friendly to the point of being obnoxious and he follows us around the house. Staring around three p.m. every day he thinks the work day should end and the family day should begin, and he is very vocal about it.
But we have two other kitties, both of whom hate the loud noise. I’d say that loud noises and cats don’t generally go together. Punky is just super laid back.
B.B.
Our cat, Saros (my wife named him…no idea what it means), has to be the oddest cat I know.
When I shoot in the basement he sits on the other side of the door and yowls until I let him in.
He then goes to the far end of the basement, where the pellet trap is and calmly plants himself on the floor and looks back at me while I shoot (my pellet trap is elevated about 5 feet off the ground).
I don’t succumb very often to his pleading…but I find it strange behaviour indeed.
CSD,
When I lived in Maryland, my 10-meter range was in the basement and we had a female cat who hated me shooting. She would go down and sit inside the pellet trap and dare me to shoot. So I had to close the basement door, and she would howl just outside, like Saros.
B.B.
I’ve talked about her before on the blog,but have to mention “Bullseye” the cat.Faithful shooting companion without equal.The irony lies in the fact her name came before any shooting exposure! See,she is one of four kittens from a litter.Three have grey with black stripes like raccoons.Bullseye has concentric rings instead that frame a bullseye on each side!
A cat story that has nothing to do with airguns.
A friend of mine has a cat that was originally name Olrac (it’s owners name was Carlo…spelled backwards…)
It’s now named stubby.
A couple of years ago they were out doing yardwork. The cat was hiding in the bushes, unseen by the owners 8 year old daughter who was trimming a small hedge with hedge trimmers.
There was a screech and a now tailess cat ran out out of the hedge into the owners arms.
After a trip to the vet the cat returned home pretty much okay. To this day he will not go anywhere near the daughter.
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The Saros cycle is an eclipse cycle with a period of 223 synodic months (approximately 6585.3213 days, or nearly 18 years 11 1/3 days), that can be used to predict eclipses of the Sun and Moon. One cycle after an eclipse, the Sun, Earth, and Moon return to approximately the same relative geometry, and a nearly identical eclipse will occur.
A series of eclipses that are separated by one Saros cycle is called a Saros series.
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1 History
2 Description
3 Saros Series
3.1 Example: Lunar Saros 131
4 See also
5 References
6 External links
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saros_cycle
Whether it has any other meanings than the solar eclipse cycle, I don’t know.
On the custom shop guns, would going with the 10.1″ .22 cal barrel make much difference in velocity? It is my understanding barrel length on co2 guns impact velocity. ????? Bub
Bub
I think that a longer barrel say… up to 14″ will make a significant difference in velocity. Co2 is expanding from it’s liquid form into a gaseous form so, theoretically, longer tubes are better (up to some point of diminished return and/or length without a rifle stock)
The 2240’s modular design is a customizers dream! Barrels, valves, bulk Co2, high pressure air conversions. This little pistol can do it all. But they are LOUD. A hammer debounce device can lessen it I’m told, and improve shot count. There’s a HUGE community devoted to this lil gem, and almost no limit to aftermarket parts. One of the most interesting is the replacement grip frame that uses ar-15 pistol grips. My advice: buy one. If you already own one, buy another!
I’ve seen more than one cat at shooting ranges wander up and down the firing line and even out on the range while firing without paying any attention to the shooting. I suspect that they are resident cats whose hearing has not survived.
This weekend’s drawing and snap shooting was nothing to write home about. It is best memorialized in the scene from Blazing Saddles where Gene Wilder as a down-on-his-luck gunfighter holds out one hand to Buck the sheriff and says, “See this hand?” Buck replies, “Steady as a rock.” Wilder then brings the other shaky and spasmodic hand around from the other side and says, “This is the hand I shoot with.”
If you have two identical powder charges, one with a bullet twice as heavy as the other, which cartridge will have more recoil? The same question would apply for air charge/pellet. In practice, I suspect that with the tiny differences in bullets used, the change to the recoil would not even be noticeable. But in principle there should be an answer. I’m guessing that the lighter bullet will produce less recoil.
Matt61
They get used to the noise maybe? They want someone to feed them or take them home.
I hate to think about how many nice cats I have known that wanted my help that ended up being road kill or shot by neighbors because I had reached my own cat limit in the house.
Some belonged to neighbors who let them run loose.
In the country, the predators and people both kill many that don’t have a good home.
I only bought one of mine . Got one from my wife (girlfriend at the time) and saved three that would have lived very short and unpleasant lives outside on their own.
twotalon
twotalon,
Punky was given to a couple to watch while they were on vacation. Of course, they never came back. That couple bought the house across the street April or May of 2009. Moved in with 3 adorable pure-bred cats & Punky. Punky slept outside under the cars while the other cats were indoors. Punky was bald, threw up furballs the size of hamsters on a daily basis, never got anything but dry food, was very skinny and meowed at everyone’s house all day (he never shut up!). It was a beastly summer…over 100 degrees for weeks on end. We were home all day. Tom could see the handwriting on the wall. He went up to NY to film the TV show in June of last year and said, “I know you’re going to take him in, probably while I’m gone.”
His owners relegated him to the outdoors because he fought constantly with the other 3 docile cats, ripped the woman’s clothing off the hangers and urinated on them. He destroyed one of their couches with his claws.
I put a cushy cat bed outside the front door. I put an ice pack underneath it 🙂
I served up daily doses of cat vitamins & Laxatone. I put out can after can of healthful food. He’d never eaten anything but dry food his whole life. His whole body was an itch festival! Not a flea in sight. Even the fleas hated him!
After a few days, I took him in, I took him to the vet, I got steroids for him and we loved him. He stopped itching, he never fought, he never did any of the bad stuff they said he did.
If I had an extra $1000-$2000, I’d get tests done to find out why he’s itchy. As you can see, he’s no longer bald (or skinny). He doesn’t bring up a hamster every day, either. He’s a lover and a playful guy.
He may have a slightly shorter lifespan than if he weren’t on steroids, but it would be a miserable one. Better to have a wonderful, happy shorter existence than a long, miserable one. His real name is Punk, which gives me an indication of what the original owners thought of him. We call him Punky, Punk Meister, Punkman…but rarely do we call him Punk. He’s anything but 🙂
Edith
A great story Edith .
People will feed you any excuse to get rid of a cat. They don’t like them in the first place or mistreat them. Cats do not take well to bad treatment like a dog will. The personalities of some people lean them to dogs because of the pack nature and subserviant nature of a dog. That don’t work with cats.
The master is the cat and not the owner. Or at best it is a partnership. With dogs, the owner is the master and the dog is subserviant.
I hate to say that I own cats. It is not right. Cats live with me.
I know one person who says that she will not own a cat if it is not registered. Same for dogs.
Only one of my housemates (or masters) is a registered seal point Himilayan. I would not care if Boog was registered or not. Registered pets are not a status symbol to me. But, DAMN!!. That hair likes to mat up from the thick winter undercoat starting around December.
twotalon
My wife & I have yet to turn away away a cat or dog we find in need. Many people do want pedigrees not realizing they may not be the best pets. Sometimes they just want to breed them for money, like we really need that. We have 5 dogs and 10 cats currently, even my service dog (being that I’m disabled) was a shelter dog. Our dogs and cats all play and sleep together. Only problem is with Bobby our youngest cat, about 2yrs, but a runt loves to terrorize the others (especially Charlie, my service dog) and get them in trouble for chasing him. Vet bills get expensive but we take care of all our pets, if people would just get their pets spayed/neutered instead of letting them wandering around breeding others that they don’t plan to take care of.
Okay, getting off my soap box.
rikib
Hi Edith, 2Talon,
We lived in Boston when we got an urge for a pedigreed cat. So we found this registered Himalayan kitten and brought him home and named him Godot, as in waiting for…. What we didn’t know at the time was that pure white, blue-eyed cats are almost always deaf. He also wasn’t the sharpest tool in the litter (too much inbreeding?). He’d be walking down our long hallway and suddenly believe he was lost. He’d start mewling piteously until I stomped on the floor (quite a long distance away, actually). Then he’d startle and come back to reality and continue on his way. One day he tried to have his way with our female cat. It took a long time for him to settle into position, as his legs were shorter than hers, and once there he seemed to forget what he was there for in the first place. Eventually our female cat got bored and walked off, carrying her would be Romeo along on her back with him going, “Meow? Meow? Meow?” Hope no one finds this tale too risque…it was really funny at the time.
When we lived in the East Bay, we had a darling little dog who was the sweetest animal you’d ever want to play with. She was patient with children and loved to cuddle. When we moved into San Francisco our new home had a no pet lease, so we reluctantly gave her to friends, who were overjoyed to have her. Two days later they called to say that their newly adopted dog had bitten all their children and had taken to standing in the middle of the street staring down delivery trucks.
Just irresponsible pet ownership IMHO! Of my 10 cats 1 is a Norwegian Forest Cat and 3 Siamese all of which we rescued and paid to have neutered/spayed. Sorry for getting on my animal soap box again.
rikib
That’s OK, Rikib. We all do less than perfect things in our youth. Regards.
Matt,
Guess no longer. Lighter bullets do produce less recoil. And not just a little less– a LOT less!
Blackpowder shooters know this better than anyone, because when black powder is used, about 55 percent by weight of the original charge is converted into ash. That’s the white smoke at discharge and the black residue inside the gun. Well, it also adds to the recoil. A cartridge rifle loaded with black powder recoils significantly more than the same bullet powered by smokeless. That’s one great reason why I shoot only smokeless in all three of my black powder rifles. That, coupled with the fact that all the bullets for black powder rifles are of large caliber and therefore are supremely heavy, makes these rifles guaranteed recoil engines.
In my 1911s I load a 200-grain bullet instead of a 230-grain. It reduces the recoil and speeds up the bullet. Same thing.
In my 6.5 Swedish Mauser I load a 120-grain spitzer instead of the more favored 140 grain spitzer for the same reason. Less reaction weight equals less recoil. And the 6.5X55 doesn’t really recoil that much to begin with.
B.B.
Not just the weight of the power charge in a black power burner.
Lighter projectiles kick less than heavier ones do with the same powder charge. Fouling buildup also causes them to kick more due to a change in the pressure curve.
twotalon
BB; You need to shoot muzzle loaders with Round Ball Loads and Black Powder. With mild to moderate charges, recoil is low since the projectile is light for it’s diameter. Just like you said, less weight, less recoil.
Mike.
Round ball with a half charge (compared to max) is even good for tree rat hunting. 50gr in a .50 cal does a good job unless you hit the “eating meat” part. A .36 with 30 gr is a great squirrel wacker as long as you follow the “no eating meat” shot policy. Head or back of the ribs leaves a small hole and a clean kill. Broadsides only. An end to end at close range kind of makes a mess that is hard to skin out.
I know. I have no idea how many squirrel I have shot with muzzleloaders.
twotalon
Mike,
I have been experimenting with Triple Seven, which I’m sure you know is a black powder substitute. It leaves less residue in the bore, though it must be cleaned immediately, just like black powder.
So far the tests have been very positive.
B.B.
Kinda starts out like my 1377. A few mods later, a nice scope and the right pellets, my groupings went from 50mm ctc to 5mm ctc….
AJVenom,did you ever have problems with the barrel rotating,or did you replace the breech before scoping it?
I first used the barrel mounted scope platform with a a bicycle inner tube to grip the barrel to helped with the whole scope setup rotating along with tightening the breach screw.
Later, I bought a steel breech from crosman and now use a bugbuster 6x scope. The reticule is a little thick, but the light function helps at night when your zapping bugs.
I have william notch sight for target shooting. I believe I have used the old Daisy 853 rear sight on it too, but the front post is stander and thick. I do paint dots on the front sight sometimes with flourecent paint.
The 2240 has a few attractive items, one more power through mods or longer barrel, no pumping and with a left side cocking bolt, you could leave the sights on target more. Downside, lack of target ammo and possibly higher cost to shoot.
Dogs have families.
Cats have staff.
PZ,
Being that I have many of both I would have to agree, 🙂
rikib
I really enjoy your informative reports and treat them as my Bible, however I cannot seem to view your part 2 review of this pistol. Can you help
kemerkid,
The link was wrong. I corrected it. It’s here:
/blog/2010/09/crosmans-2240-pistol-part-2/
Edith
Thanks Edith, you’re a star
Bought the Ruger Mark I today, Friday the 13th at the local Walmart. After about 5 shots I noticed that a big chip of the barrel had come off by the chamber. What a piece of junk! The barrel looks like cheap pot metal where the chip came off. I will take it back for refund. I won’t buy another. This gives Ruger a bad name. I already own the super single six, security six and 10-22. I have no clue why Ruger would put their name on this piece of junk!
Jim@ luv2 hunt49
I recently ordered a Crosman 2240 (.22 cal.) from the Custom Shop. It ordered a 14.6″ barrel, trigger shoe, no sights, and long steel breech. The gun I received is a 2300 in .22 caliber! I re-worked the sear and installed my own spring. This lowered the trigger pull to 2.21 pounds, and virtually zero trigger creep. I then drilled & tapped the rear plug and installed a 10-32 threaded knob to adjust the power. This gun is simply AWESOME! my average FPS is 517 (using Crosman Premier pellets) at full power and 487fps at low power. I can easily keep 10 shots at 30 feet in a dime. I am VERY PLEASED with this pistol. I have excellent photos of my Custom Shop Pistol, if anyone wants to see how its set up…
Mark F
Mark F,
How about a guest blog on your pistol?
B.B.
I can do that. Just need to know how to upload my photos…
Mark F,
Please contact me at
blogger@pyramydair.com
I will give you everything you need to be a guest blogger.
B.B.
I love your blog, so thank you very much for doing a lot of work many of us do not have the time to do and/or are still on the “learning” curve of air guns!! Just a note…. some of us have received our crosman 2240 out of the box/package with the rear sight being crooked, slightly leaning to the left (actually, the whole co2 chamber and barrel sits crooked on top of the grips and trigger making the sights seeming to lean to the left…. maybe to the right for others… I don’t know).
Anyways, it took me a while but I fixed the problem. I loosened the screws under the pistol. One screw in front of the trigger guard and one screw behind the pistol grips directly under the rear sights. This allowed me to turn the whole co2 chamber slightly, and thankfully enough to align the co2 chamber and barrel with the bottom part of the gun (use a LONG #2 robertson screw driver, especiallly for the screw behind the pistol grips).
Then I did what you said and loosened the two Allen screws (a #2 metric allen wrench) on the barrel band and fine tuned it
I am greatful for all of your knowledge and insight into air gunning… I turn to your blog often and it has helped me tremendously!
RedKen,
Welcome to the blog! This blog is made just for people like you, and I’m glad you have found what you need here.
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B.B.
Do the stock valves in the 2240 and 2300t have the same performance ?
Why is this model 2240 in a .22 cal. one third the price of the same 2400T in a .177 cal. $59.95 versus $175 .
They seem to be the exact same units?
Bob R.,
Welcome to the blog.
Although these appear similar, they are actually 2 very different airguns. The 2300T (you wrote 2400T, but there is no such model) has a steel breech, a better barrel, better adjustable sights and an adjustable trigger. The 2240 has a plastic breech, and the trigger is not adjustable.
The nice thing about these guns is you can buy the parts to turn the 2240 into almost anything you want. Here is a blog series in which I converted a 2240 to run ob high pressure air. The conversion parts did cost a lot though.
/blog/2014/08/crosman-2240-conversion-to-air-part-4/
B.B.
Hello to you all.
It seems that in PA’s site the 2240 is rated as a medium noise but the 2300 T as a medium-high one. How can this be true since the 2300T has a longer barrel and a restricted valve volume? If it is true then how would you rate the 2300T’s noise when you rate the 2240 as loud? After a real offer for the 2300T(new, $ 50 more than a 2240) and certainly with your approval… i intend to convert it to a .22 with a 12″ barrel, taking off the valve restriction spacer. Your opinion about noise and expected performance wii be highly appreciated.
Bill,
With few exceptions, all CO2 guns are rated 4-med-high. I fixed the rating on the 2240. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
Edith