Colt Single Action Army BB gun: Part 1

by Tom Gaylord
Writing as B.B. Pelletier

Colt Single Action Army BB revolver
The new Colt Single Action Army BB revolver is gorgeous!

Colt Single Action Army BB revolver box
They even got the box right!

This report covers:

• Here it is
• Very realistic!
• Cartridge-fed
• Action is authentic
• Things that differ
• Overall — a good job!

Here it is
This is the surprise I wanted to show you last Friday. I was asked to hold off, but then the decision was made to let me run the blog today. The Colt Single Action Army BB revolver is here — or will be pretty soon. This is the airgun I’ve been waiting for since Wulf Pflaumer, one of the owners of Umarex, first told me about the impending arrival of the Walther Lever Action rifle. I was at his sister’s home in Maryland when he told me about the soon-to-arrive lever-action rifle. I was already a huge fan of several of his action pistols, so we had a great discussion about realistic airguns.

When he asked me what gun I thought would be most well-received next, I answered the Colt SAA. Ever since the departure of the Crosman Single Action Six in the 1970s, airgunners haven’t had a hog leg to shoot, and the recent popularity of cowboy action shooting made this gun a cinch. See the Single Action Six here.

It has taken 15 more years to realize this dream, but it’s finally here. And what a gun it is! Umarex USA sent me the artillery model (5-1/2-inch barrel), which is blued. Mine has synthetic ivory grips that are perfectly colored. And please understand that when I say, “mine,” that is exactly what I mean. No one is getting this gun from me!

For those wanting more bling, a nickeled version of the gun will also be available. Of course, Colt fanciers will tell you that the range of models will potentially be quite broad. There should also be a cavalry model (7-1/2-inch barrel) a 4-3/4 inch barreled gunfighter’s model and a Shopkeeper’s gun that lacks the ejector housing and has a 3-inch barrel. And let us not forget the famous Buntline Special with its 12-inch barrel!

And, when all is said and done, there should also be some guns that have an aged finish similar to the 1911s they put out in 2014. Most first generation SAAs look like that today, anyway.

It doesn’t have to stop there. Can the Bisley model be far behind? Or the flattop, with its adjustable target sights? Will there be a black powder frame that has a cylinder pin screw instead of a spring-loaded cross pin? Given just the three finishes and 5 standard barrel lengths of the version that’s before me now, that’s 15 models, plus however many variations of the flattop and Bisley they care to make.

Very realistic!
This is a highly realistic copy of Colt’s SAA, and I ought to know. I was a stunt gunfighter at Frontier Village amusement park in San Jose, California, in the 1960s and ’70s and handled Colt SAAs every day. This 33-oz. CO2 revolver balances exactly like a .45 Colt with the same barrel length. The finish is all blue, which is correct for a first-generation gun. I owned a 1903 Colt SAA that came from the factory with a blued frame. The color case-hardened frame is better known and seen more often today — but this one is also true to the prototype firearm.

The CO2 cartridge fits inside the grip, and for years it was the thing that troubled engineers the most. Crosman had put theirs under the barrel of the SA-6 where it was somewhat hidden but also not true to the lines of the prototype firearm. The grip was the only place to put it. A headless Allen screw is used to push the CO2 cartridge into the piercing pin; and, when the cartridge is installed, the screw is invisible! This small detail will make a huge difference to those wanting faithfulness in the copy.

Colt Single Action Army BB revolver grip
The CO2 cartridge fits inside a regulation Colt SAA grip. I knew you would want to see this. Notice the Allen screw is below and flush with the bottom of the grip.

Colt Single Action Army BB revolver bottom
Here’s a view of the screw from the bottom of the gun. When the cartridge is installed, this screw goes below flush with the grip bottom.

Colt Single Action Army BB revolver hammer
The hammer even has a vestigial firing pin.

Cartridge-fed
This is a BB revolver, and each BB is held inside a realistic cartridge that’s similar in size to a loaded .357 Magnum cartridge. But there’s a twist. This brass cartridge accepts the BB in its hollow base rather than in a plastic simulated bullet. That’s where a primer would normally go. I will show you this in detail in Part 2.

Another thing I’ll do in Part 2 is show how to load the cartridges into the cylinder, for this revolver is an authentic single-action. I can see some folks getting a rude lesson in revolver operation when they’re confronted by a design that accepts rounds only one at a time. No speedloaders here! There’s a procedure to loading a single-action and I’ll show it. Yes, additional cartridges will be available

While the revolver does have an authentic and working spring-loaded extractor rod and housing, it shouldn’t ever be necessary to use it. Since there’s no internal pressure to speak of, the brass cartridge case never swells and extraction is as simple as pointing the muzzle straight up while the cylinder’s turned. The cases drop out on their own.

Action is authentic
The action of this revolver is old-school authentic. The hammer controls everything, and the functional loading gate is just there to enclose the right rear of the cylinder. None of this “New Model Ruger” silliness where the loading gate controls the action. However, instead of the 4 clicks of the hammer (there are really 5 in a revolver that’s timed correctly) this one has two that each sound like a double. Ca-clunk — ca-clunk! Colt owners may fret.

Also the cylinder doesn’t spin freely on its axis like the firearm. It feels like the hand bears on it with a lot of spring pressure, so advancing the cylinder takes some effort.

Things that differ
As realistic as this gun is, there are several other things a Colt owner will notice right away. The first is the hammer. It never sits down flush to the frame. The offset seen in the first picture, which looks like the hammer is back on the safety notch is as low as the hammer ever gets. When the gun fires it does go down all the way, but it rebounds to this position after the shot.

This revolver has a safety! It’s hard to see, but on the bottom of the grip frame, just in front of the triggerguard there’s a sliding safety catch that shows a red dot when the safety is off and a white dot when it’s on. Agatha Christie would be so proud!

Colt Single Action Army BB revolver safety
It’s difficult to see, but the Colt SAA BB revolver does have a working safety!

The front sight is lower than the front sight on a firearm. It looks like a sight that someone has regulated for their personal shooting.

Finally, the cylinder base pin doesn’t remove from the gun. The spring-loaded base pin catch is just for show — it doesn’t move. And, really, there’s no need to remove the cylinder, so I don’t find this to be a shortcoming.

Overall — a good job!
I think single-action fans are going to like this BB revolver. The hammer cocks even easier than a tuned SAA firearm, so quick-draw can be practiced. The gun spins just like the firearm, and the 4-3/4-inch gunfighter model was always the best for that.

I foresee the creation of a BB-gun component to cowboy action shooting, where more money is spent today than in IPSC. This revolver will be perfect for that, and we already have the Walther Lever Action rifle to go with it. Maybe a youth component? Or one you can do at home?

Umarex USA sales manager Justin Biddle expects this gun to hit the retail market in February. Let’s hope it does.

Colt Single Action Army BB revolver left
Colt SAA BB revolver.

222 thoughts on “Colt Single Action Army BB gun: Part 1

  1. B.B.,

    It is every bit as exciting as you promised. Man, that is one beautiful revolver. I only have one problem now. Which finish do I get? I love them both. Is there anything historically to recommend one finish over the other?

    This is a great start to the week. Thanks.

    G&G


    • G&G,

      I don’t like silver guns, so I won’t have a nickel or stainless gun. The sights are too difficult to acquire for me.

      But nickle Colts date back to the beginning of the SAA’s run. Pick the one that suits you and remember that you can always get another.

      B.B.


      • Tom,

        Outstanding!

        Will Crosman 12 gram carts work, or will they have to be Umarex ones?

        (Incidentally, your using of the Derringer as an example of design-induced wear reminded me that those are now possible for Umarex to replicate, given that 8 gram carts are now as easy to buy as 12 grams ones. Now The Peacemaker, next year The Gambler?)

        Of course the blued finish is the one to go for — if it looks like the one in your pictures. The Umarex photos for this version does not look like bluing on my computer screen, it looks like a drab, unexciting black. Do you happen to know what the story is regarding that?

        The grips look much more convincing in your photos, too. The Umarex pics make the grips look very plastic-ey.

        Michael


        • Michael,

          Pyramyd Air has posted the photos sent from Umarex. Edith thought I could do better, so I photographed my test gun, and I agree with you that it does look better.

          The Gambler! Now, that would be something! I will pass that along to Umarex.

          As for the cartridges, I think they will all work. I have an Umarex one in the gun now, but I will also try a Crosman one for you.

          Thanks,

          B.B.


          • Tom,

            My wife is a former pro photog and a former corporate web designer (involuntarily made to retire earlier than she would have liked a few years back because of the recession). She looked at your pics and the ones sent by Umarex, and she blames the way Umarex must have lit them. She said your lighting brings out the “fine texture” and “fine contrast” (whatever those things mean) of the metal finish and that of the grips as well. She also complimented your selection of angles.

            Crosman’s powerlets are ever-so-slightly longer than Gamos and Walthers, so I thought I’d ask. The powerlet also has a seam at the neck the others lack.

            The Gambler would work, I think. 8 gram carts are 65mm and dirt cheap online if they are purchased in quantities of 500 (a lot, but a lifetime supply, right?) They are quite common these days because making one’s own soda water is popular again.

            The other two “Legends” that Umarex could whip up very quickly and cheaply are the MAC 11 (two or three airsoft versions of it and two slightly different BB versions of the UZI are already out there– how hard could it be?) and the Mare’s Leg Steve McQueen/Josh Randall lever action pistol. The Mare’s Leg is so close to the early, short barreled, 2×12 CO2 gram Walther Lever Action it isn’t funny. And there are airsoft versions of the Mare’s Leg out there, too.

            Michael



      • Always well to remember, in 1873, plating technology was nowhere as sophisticated as today. And black powder was (and is) hideously hydroscopic, aggresively absorbing water from the atmosphere like a sponge. Add the chemical salt content from the extant primer technolgy of the times and a brand-new Blue finish Colt, fired and put away uncleaned, could be reduced to a locked-up soon-to-be-ball-of-rust in a day or two. Faster in really humid conditions.
        Stainless-steel was far in the future and, more importantly, the ability to actually manufacture a revolver from it even farther ahead…like the 1960’s.
        It made a lot of sense to opt for nickel-plating in those days…rust never sleeps. Even stainless-steel will rust in a prolonged high-humidity, salt-air environment. But nickel never does even if that vintage plating usually peels in use after awhile.
        I’ve never cared much for silver colored guns either (curiously, a trait I find common among those of us with a military connection) but ever since inheriting my Dad’s Colt 1911 in matte electroless-nickle, I’ve become much more fond of that very different, very much more durable 20th century nickel finish.
        Of course since the item of today’s attention is mostly made of non-ferrous metal, all of the above is probably irrelevant but then we can segway to why someone would select a high-profile shiny-chrome weapon versus a more subdued blue steel one. Good reasons for either and I suspect the beginning a a future discussion.


        • 103David ,

          Sounds like you know about these things. Was the nickel plating considered better than bluing? Was it more expensive? As far as why pick a shiny finish I suppose many people simply think it looks good, especially if they were buying the gun for recreational purposes as opposed to as a weapon. If it was a longer lasting finish that would explain it. If it was also more expensive that would have attracted many of the well to do folks as well I guess. Who knows. I think it strongly depends on the specific weapon. I think it does look really nice on some of them.

          G&G


          • Perhaps I may have mentioned in the blog nickel was probably better in the 19th century because nickel didn’t rust like blued steel, so “better” would be taken as “more practical.”
            More expensive? Probably.
            Looks better? A matter of opinion. George Patton very ostentatiously carried a pair of Ivory griped revolvers (Colt and Smith & Wesson, silver-plated and blue finished respectivley) but the general belief was as more of a performance piece rather than as a practical matter. Being as this is a family blog, without being language specific, he did not take kindly to those mistaking Ivory for mother-of-pearl, and was pretty earthy in his opinions on those not knowing the difference.George was, in fact, the real deal and earned the right to have what he wanted.
            My personal experience in the military was that one normally wants to keep a lower profile so as not to attract the eye, which means a visually lower-key item, not bright and shiny. It’s why tanks and other weaponry are painted in camouflage. This almost always carries over when one re-enters the “real” world. Low-Key is the way to go.
            On the other hand, it’s possible that you actively want your potential adversaries to know you’re not unarmed and perhaps they should go onto someone else. Now. Bright and shiny and dangerous looking (with possibly a little street theatre like George did) is maybe what’s called for.
            But hey, life is short. Boxers, Briefs, or Bras, get what fits you.


            • 103David,

              I pointed out that that many people probably just think that the nickel finish looks better which makes it a matter of personal opinion. I completely understand military personnel preferring something less obvious and that’s why I pointed out that people wanting the nickel finish probably intend to use it for recreational purposes. Thanks for your response.

              G&G



      • Very nice ,since they are using n 1860 army grip ,why not a cartridge coversion 1860 Army? Would get a night shift working on a lever action ,shell using ,1873 Winchester. Shot Cowboy Action for like 15 yrs , would like to see a Cowboy action airgun event ,also with 22s mia ,bb co2 may find a new audience


      • Like nickel as well as blued single actions . Hope a shiny one is coming. Looking at the grip , I think if they had used a wheel type co2 tightener ,and made the bottom of the gripframe pivot up and down like a Colt 1911 177 pellet pistol , they could have gotten the saa original spec grip frame. All said will still get one ,no ,make that 2 to start, Next up an 1875 Remington, 1860 cartridge conversions ,and a big bore da revolver like a Colt New Service or S&W 1917.


      • Will go for a brace of nickeled guns . My first SAA was a 357 , Colt ,nickel 5 1/2 with stag grips. As an aside , the Shopkeepers model has an ejector rod ,the Sherriff’s model does not.


      • looking at this pistol ,you have to wonder if Umarex will offer a 22 lr version as well ,which could use the smaller Scout grip frame or an original SAA grip frame. The original Scouts made from the 50s until 1970 ,were basically various versions of alloy frames, later replaced with the case hardened steel frame revolvers from 71-76. With Colt able to make next to nothing in house , and with the AR rimfires and 1911s already in 22 ,it would be a natural to reissue the 22 s, even the box is reminiscent of a 60s vintage 22 Scout box




          • I was hoping that was the case. Would make sense. The one barrel length I don’t have in a Peacemaker is 7 1/2, would pick one up as well if they offer it . The nonstandard 3 -4 inch Sherriff/ Shopkeeper would be nice too. I can see where this is going. I think that shooters who have never been into the old hogleg will see what the big deal is.



    • Tom,

      I have one gripe about this gun, The hammer, I know that people kept their guns on “save cock” to keep it safe, however I would like to see it work realistically seeing as I’m one of those guys who buys “replica” air gun’s for looks and functionality. The way I see it that firing pin shouldn’t be hard to fix, but Why would Colt spend so much time and effort on making this and cheap out on the hammer?

      I’ve been looking for a nice co2 SAA but I want looks as well as functionality. That hammer is a deal breaker for me… Do you have any idea if Colt plans to fix that?

      Thanks, Klink.


      • Klink,

        Welcome to the blog.

        I doubt that this revolver will be altered to change the hammer, but there might be other single actions coming out. Once the manufacturers discover how popular single actions are there should be several different companies making them.

        B.B.


        • Tom,

          Ok,Thanks for the info, I’m goanna wait for some video reviews of this to make any decision on
          whether to buy it or not.

          I can’t wait for part two of this little article of yours! Keep up the good work Tom!

          Klink.


      • I do not believe that is accurate, they carried them with five and the hammer on a empty. remember if your using a real colt or colt clone, load 1 skip 1 load 4 and drop the hammer on an empty chamber.



  2. Wasn’t the type of gun I was expecting for the surprise.

    But what a beautiful gun! I’m not a pistol person but like I said. What a beautiful gun! And the box is way cool!

    And how the heck is Umarex turning out all these quality reproduction guns so quick. Its like you blink your eye and they have a new one coming out.



  3. BB
    My gosh BB, if I didn’t know you better, I would swear you were on a mission to make a BB gun believer/owner of me. First you slipped in the gorgeous Webley MK V1 revolver, and now you add insult to injury with this stunning Colt Single Action Army revolver. By the way, would it be considered a faux pas to call a revolver a pistol, or are they one and the same? If one is to own one or more of these fine replica’s, he/she must be cognizant of proper vocabulary, and not sound too much like the newbie he/she actually is.
    My airgun hobby is beginning to resemble an obsession/compulsion.
    Ciao
    Titus


    • Titus Groan,

      I have to ask,…what does “Ciao” mean? I would guess, “good day” or, “take care” but really have no clue. And yeah, be carefull, I can feel myself getting sucked into the air gun “Vortex” as well. Must…resist…must…resist….. 😉




      • Hi Chris
        Dutchjozef, and Michael are correct. Like the Hawaiian word “Aloha”, the Italian word “Ciao” can be a greeting, or used when saying goodbye. I began using it when I was about 15 years old. My best friend and I had just discovered a theatre in Calgary Alberta, that showed mainly foreign films. We went to see Frederico Fellini’s 1960’s La Dolce Vita ( The Sweet Life), starring Marcello Mastroianni, and Anita Ekberg. I found it clever, and amusing that Ms. Ekberg’s character would say “Ciao Marcello” whether she was greeting him, or saying goodbye. I have been using ‘Ciao’ as an end to my written correspondence ever since. An interesting aside concerning the film La Dolce Vita. It was condemned by the Catholic Church, and banned in Spain until Franco’s death in 1975 due to it’s satirical portrayal of “Christ’s second coming”. The initial scene is a helicopter transporting a statue of Christ over an ancient Roman aqueduct as it seemed to be blessing the ruins. It is also the first usage of the term “paparazzi” to describe invasive photo journalists.
        Sorry for the long winded explanation. I seem to get hooked on a mental stream of thought, and follow it to some sort of weird conclusion.
        Ciao
        Titus


    • Titus,

      You have uncovered a part of my secret mission!

      My mission is to spread the word about airguns in every shape, form and size.

      Pistol versus revolver — that’s a good one. 150 years ago a pistol was a single-shot arm and a revolver was a repeater. Things always change.

      Now that you are at the obsessive/compulsive stage might I suggest having a port installed in your arm so these things can be injected into your bloodstream? It only hurts a little.

      B.B.





    • Siraniko,

      Some where I remember reading that a pellet achieves max. velocity in something like the first 6”~10” of the barrel and slows down from that point on. I’m not sure how that carries over to bb pistol and rifles, but I found that to be interesting.



      • Considering that the BB loads into the base of the cartridge and this is a revolver which has a significant cylinder gap (unless it’s a S&W Russian) the “cartridge” itself is the barrel. I don’t think the physical barrel will be able to add any speed to the BB once it’s out of the cartridge.


        • So basically the cartridges having exact tolerances will be of an utmost importance, tight or loose and you’ll have bbs spraying… different spins nevermind possible velocity differences, the velocity test will be very interesting if it does have an effect.



      • Tom,

        Gosh this test is going to be so miserable for you. All that shooting and handling of this hideous revolver.

        I feel for you, I really do!

        And I feel that another powder-burning SAA just might have to enter your collection by the time you are done testing this air gun.

        Michael


  4. One other thought for the day before heading out into 17 degree weather. A while back there was some conversation on “open cell foam” and “closed cell foam” and gun storage.

    If I am not mistaken, the foam that P.A. sent my pellets in, is closed cell. It is firm, has a bit of a shine and somewhat slick to the feel.

    The foam in your typical gun transport case is much softer and has little shine or slick feel. This I believe would be open cell foam…..and was not recommended for gun storage.

    I do not remember the previous conversation being very clear, so I thought I would throw in my 2 cents worth.


  5. BB, this is definitely the most beautiful and certainly will be the most desirable BB gun ever! And it will be in every serious airgunner’s collection. At least it will be in mine!
    I know you left the loading procedure for Part 2, but since the BBs are loaded in the rear of the cartridge, it sounds like you never need to take the cartridges out of the chamber to reload it, just half cock it, open the gate and insert the BB and you are good to go, am I right?
    You also mentioned in previous posts that a Colt SAA grip would be too short for the CO2 bulb to fit, How did Umarex solve it? Did they use a longer grip, like a 1860 Army?


  6. B.B.,
    That is a beautiful revolver.

    We bought our grown son the Umarex M712 Full-Auto CO2 BB Pistol for Christmas. It was everything you said it was in your review. You can’t shoot it in full auto without getting a grin on your face. I was very impressed with it just like I have been with the other Umarex air pistols I have purchased in the past. They have the heft and feel of a real firearm.


    • Jerry & B.B.,

      I saw in a Clint Eastwood movie that one of the bad guys was shooting a M712. His included a wood stock that made it a carbine. I wonder if Umarex has thought about making a stock for the M712. I would like one.

      G&G




    • Tanaka made a series of airsoft SAAs years ago that I asked B.B. to see if PA would carry. He was agreeable but about that time Tanaka Works got in trouble with the Japanese authorities for coming out with a SAA that used cartridges that could be individually filled with air. Apparently they thought these could too easily be adapted to firing real bullets, and so almost overnight all Tanaka’s SAAs disappeared. A pity, because some models used plastic imbedded with metal to bring them up to the approximate weight of the firearms they copied. Also, in addition to the cartridges, the guns could be loaded with extra airsoft pellets in the center, bringing the total shot count (if I remember correctly) to 18. You can see Tanaka SAAs being used on You Tube.

      Of course, if an airsoft version were available, it would be required by US law to have the tip of the barrel painted orange, which for me ruins the authentic look of the gun.


  7. It looks good. At first glance it seems that the grip is a bit longer than what is normal for a SAA. It looks more like the grip on a 1860 cap and ball revolver. That said, it still is very close. I can see that it needs to be sized as it is due to the the CO2 cartridge.

    Mike


    • Mike,

      I’ was pretty sure the grip is the standard SAA size, but when I overlaid it on my SAA, I discovered that you are correct! I suggested this as a solution for the grip years ago and it slipped right past me! This revolver does have an 1860 grip frame!

      Good eye!

      B.B.



  8. B.B.,

    The grip looks too long for a 1873 Colt. It looks like a Colt 1860 grip.

    If so, that’s ok. I like the 1860 grip better, and shooters like me have long modified SAAs with the older, longer 1860 grip.

    RB


  9. I ordered one in silver on Friday. I also waited for this for a long time and I can’t wait for it.
    I hunt with a single action Ruger .44 mag and I am used to the loading and the handling of
    a single action.I may even get one in blue now I’ll be able to practice with a bb version
    SA gun.The TT4/3 is also in the wings along with the Nagant the hobby has taken another
    great leap and will soon empty my already depleated gun fun fund.


  10. Any chance of these becoming available in the UK?
    I used to have the Colt .22″ RF version with a second .22″RF Magnum cylinder, but this got confiscated when Blair got elected as British Prime Minister, and ALL handguns were made illegal in the UK.
    Now only the police and gangsters have handguns – and the gangsters are the less dangerous. (They only shoot each other).
    Best wishes,
    David


    • Confiscated your .22 Colt, I am sure that England was safer for it. I hope they at least payed you for what it was worth. I hope they will let you get this one. England needs major, major changes it their leaders, my 2 cents anyway.

      Mike


      • Bah Humbug”That’s Socialism”Since 1946 when Attlee was elected the UK went
        down hill .Now we are heading there too since the lefties took over with our home grown
        version of Attlee II, Who will make Attlee I pale in comparison when all the damage is totaled up.


  11. BB,
    Do you know what metal the frame and barrel is made of?
    I like all the features of this pistol except for the hammer not sitting flush like in a real firearm. I think this is a negative for people that practice quick-draw.


  12. AT LAST! Thank you, B.B. for bringing this to fruition. I will order this because it’s available soon, but what I really want is a case-hardened 4 3/4″ barreled model.

    Yippee kai yay!






      • In the UK the Air Arms products are marginally more expensive than US prices, the Weihrauch’s are around 20% dearer and Diana’s approach twice the price….despite the fact I can import either of the german marques at slightly lower than US prices direct from Germany, there’s no import taxes so it makes no sense at all.
        However this comment was directed at these BB repliguns, the Webley MK6 is $312 dollars here….for no reason I can fathom, hopefully this Colt won’t follow suit.


        • Check your standard of living costs, if the average income across the board and average housing costs, etc, are also higher, then its just a reflection of that most likely. That and the higher demand in the UK might let it sneak up a little.


          • Unfortunately I wish that was the case, average salaries tend to be around 20% lower in the UK, though clothing prices reflect this and food is significantly cheaper, beers and wines are more expensive, especially beer and fuel costs are astronomical, $8.50 a gallon (and our gallon is smaller than yours).
            Housing is vastly more expensive than the US (worryingly so to be honest recently with $200k in poor areas and $300k as a starting price as an average, tiny, starter apartment in many areas).
            Last 20 years have gone a bit free fall over here, not that it’s got anything to do with having expensive wars, because we haven’t done this before, roughly every 100 years, forever.
            Getting ripped off by obfuscurating politics and being taxed until your head spins seems to be the British lot……generally about this time the general populace like to start blaming immigration, or whoever the government like to scapegoat at any given moment.


            • Sounds like government has the same perogative everywhere, just different levels of lines crossed. They seem to think a utopian society works, and it does, for them, but the rest of us live in reality.


              • Well, yes, and money goes to money in quite a natural fashion in any capitalist society without mechanisms to distribute wealth, we don’t have the grinding poverty here a lot of countries do but nevertheless there is a massive gap between the haves and have nots, in itself not a problem as long as a ladder exists to get from one state to the other.
                It’s ok for many of my generation (over 40’s) we already have our homes…but the housing prices and lack of decent meaty jobs means I worry about what the kids are supposed to do.
                The economy this last two decades has become strange as much as anything…some things are cheaper than when I was a kid, clothes, consumer items etc, but some pretty fundamental things are stupid expensive, utilities, housing, fuel etc….and those things are going to cause some real economic issues if they aren’t dealt with….I mean they have quadrupled in cost in 15 years…madness.




  13. hi. I have an original Crossman .22 peacemaker. doesn’t work tho. these new ones are beauties and I;m going to try and get both versions. these are going to sell faster than they can make them. and what is this I see in my vision of what is coming next. ahhhh yes I see it clearly now. it is an exact well priced replica of a Winchester lever action bb or pellet gun. nothing like the walther lever action . if I am right just nod once for yes. thank you. pete.


    • Got some inside info huh? To bad henry does its own smallbore stuff, and would never have it made overseas anyway, so umarex could do a real nice single pump cowboy with the octo-or-hexagon barrel, a repeater with 600 fps pellets…. lol, as long as we are still dreaming, science never dies!


      • RifledDNA,

        I like the way you think! Hex/Oct. barrel, brass reciever, 600 fps sounds good, pellet…yea.

        I would see the leverage problem being an issue though. Make it a cleverly hidden under lever maybe? Now that might work!


        • The lever action works fine for pcp, multi, and co2, but don’t think it’ll work as a springer, but that was the thought, a springer. Maybe have the lever run all the way up but it’ll look the same when locked in. Have to be a reverse piston that transfers back to the front, or just stay co2 since that’s what the legends line is, just would hate to waste something like that to shoot bbs, definitely need pellets.


        • And yes, brass and barrel, got a Henry catalog little while back that gave me the idea. The tube magazine space could be utilized very well, whichever powerplant was used.


  14. Oh B.B., I must have one of those. I’ve been waiting for one of these for many years. It will look nice with my powder burners. I will wait till the test reports come back though. I want the blue one, but if it’s dull like the PA photos, I’ll take the nickle. Yours is a beautiful gloss blue/black. I’ve never seen a bb/pellet revolver that pretty. Makes the Smith pellet revolver I had look ugly with it fake cyl. I also wish the hammer would rest all the way down, but it’s not a deal breaker for me. Thank You so much B.B. and Umarex!
    FYI, for anyone interested: The 50th Annual Daisy National BB Gun Championship Match will be held in Rogers, Ark on July 3-5th this year. I’d love to show them this new “Colt” Umarex and asked why didn’t you do that (I wouldn’t really do it). Bradly


  15. This is one revolver I personally prefer the appearance of in a shorter barrel, specifically the 4-3/4 inch. The ejector housing is even with the muzzle, and it looks just sooooo cool. I think it is that fat profile that appeals to me, perhaps as I have a fat profile myself!

    Michael


    • Michael, I agree, I always preferred the looks of the 4.75 barrel too. But, that said, I generally use my 5.5 barrel as I find it a compromise between the 4.75 and 6 7/8″ barrel. But oh the Sheriff’s model or maybe a …I could go on forever. Umarex has it going on right now. I’m going to list them when I file bankruptcy lol. Bradly


  16. Bugbuster,

    Thanks for your reply on the previous blog with regard to shooting bags. I will keep that in mind, (slick, medium break down and critters). I may go with the walnut shells after all.

    And yes, shooting rest/bench are of current interest as well. I see one getting built both indoors and outdoors.


    • Chris, USA,

      I had taken my RWS model 48 .177 rifle to my local club this past Sunday and shot it indoors at 50′. At the present time, I have a Hawke 3-12X44 mm varmint scope on it with a half mil-dot reticule and side focus. I had the power cranked all the way up on 12.

      My pellets were Crosman Premier 10.5 gr. Ultra Magnums which had shown promise at 50 yards this past summer, they still do! I chose this particular pellet to try initially because of it’s high BC. It should still be generating around 12 FPE @720 FPS at 50 yards with this model rifle. I have JSB and H&N pellets in that weight range also which I will try again this coming spring/summer.

      I used an official 50′ small bore rifle target. My shooting platform was the bench top used for handgun shooting and was too high for the chair I was using to sit on, a higher stool would have been more comfortable.

      It is always best to find and use your “natural point of aim” when shooting, if possible. This means a position where you do not have to “muscle” the rifle left or right, to get on target. You do this with your eyes closed as you mount the rifle and point it at the target. Open your eyes and see where the sights are in relation to the target. Adjust feet, butt or whatever to align sights on target and retry until everything lines up. This is especially important when shooting rapid fire stages with conventional rifles!

      Now, back to the nitti-gritty, I grabbed two shot bags which were filled with some unknown medium which was definitely lighter than sand or even crushed walnut hulls, I may have to dissect one to find out! I placed them under the forearm of the stock and shot my first group, about .723″ CTC, to paraphrase Reb a few posts past, it looked like I was stirring paint with the reticule,fortunately though, it was only a small can! Next I gripped the front bag with my right hand and squeezed it, I was on to something. This acted like a fine elevation adjustment and the wobble all but disappeared! I fired two more groups, the second about .467″ CTC, the third, once again, about .200″ CTC! I keep repeating ABOUT because the round nose pellets don’t punch a well defined hole in the target. The rear bag was placed slightly ahead of the trigger guard and I held the rifle very loosely to my shoulder. These were only five shot groups.

      For what it is worth, Styrofoam picnic plates appear to define shot groups much better than paper, I have to do a little more experimentation though.

      Sorry this was so long but I tried to be as through as possible. I am no lefty, just left eye dominant which it seems many other people are on these blogs.

      Bugbuster



        • Edith,

          As you and I both know, it really shouldn’t make a difference, especially with a handgun. Now, if you are trying to shoot a rifle right handed and attempting to use your left eye to sight with, that is an entirely different matter. I have seen people attempt it, to describe it as awkward doesn’t even come close! If it makes you feel better, fine, I have no problem with that, I believe that it is great that you enjoy and practice shooting with Tom. Shooting is in fact a life skill, you can use it for pleasure, feed yourself if necessary, and most importantly, in this day and age, defend your life.

          Since I have your attention, let me ask you a few questions.

          1 What causes blogs to go into the spam file? I personally have not had that problem, just curious.
          2 Will the reference to a competitor of PA keep the blog from being posted?
          3 Is there some shortcut to locate responses to your blogs without having to read through the whole
          thing or at least a large part of it? Personally, I believe that it would be MOST HELPFUL if,
          when people respond to a blog, that they specifically address their response back to the person
          who posted it, that way the response will show up in the original posters email, yes?
          4 What is the maximum megapixels for photo-bucket photos and how do I subscribe to it? The
          problem I see with most software is that when you accept and download it, you get a lot of other
          useless, unnecessary,and invasive software included.

          God bless, and KYAAPD (keep your air and powder dry)

          Bugbuster


          • Bugbuster,

            Here are the answers to your questions:

            1. Over the years, I’ve added certain words, phrases, email addresses, names and IP numbers to the spam filter. Whenever we had someone who was repeatedly misbehaving (like attacking other blog readers) or there were words/phrases that were repeatedly used by spammers, I would add them to the list of things/people that would be caught by the spam filter. The filter is quite huge and too large for me to search for the thing that sometimes sends legitimate comments to the spam folder. The good news is that we regularly unspam legitimate comments.

            2. Reference to a competitor of Pyramyd Air will usually keep a comment from being posted.

            3. I don’t know if any easy way to find certain comments other than looking for them or doing a word search using your browser’s search function. It would be nice if people would reply to a commenter, but we can’t force them to do that. Plus, there are some people who are relatively new to the whole concept of the internet and do not see the REPLY button under a comment. Or they may think that the REPLY button is only for replying directly to that person and no one else will see their reply. So, they go to the bottom of the page and click the COMMENT button. (Also, you refer to posts and blogs, but I think you’re referencing only comments. Tom writes the posts/blogs, the comments are the things everyone else writes 🙂 )

            4. I don’t know anything about photo-bucket pictures. You’ll have to ask someone who uses it successfully. I’ve never used that application.

            Edith


          • The thing with spam filters is they don’t make a difference between some words and it’s a good thing.
            I was a moderator for a while and one of the blocked words was “hell” but when someone would type “he’ll” it would be blocked, which was a pain but if you don’t do it that way people will find a way around it. If I typed “he11” or “H3LL” you know perfectly well what is written and can easily read it. So it has to be done that way so it will block most version of a word. People will still find ways to tell each other to… and that’s why humans are still needed.

            The pictures hosting websites often don’t have a size limit but will resize the pictures you put on there. You usually don’t need to resize the pics you upload.
            If you have a gmail/google account just use their pic hosting site, it can automatically save the pictures you take with your smart phone. I clicked the option to upload only when I have wi-fi access and the phone is charging, that way I’m not using my data plan and won’t drain the battery while the pics upload.

            J-F


            • J-F, spam filters aside, it was two years ago this month you told me I was on a slippery slope with regard to CO2 replica pistols and revolvers.

              /blog/2013/01/winchester-model-11-16-shot-semiautomatic-bb-pistol-part-3/#comments

              With the purchase of the Colt Commander the slope may be becoming more slippery. We will see.

              I am definitely disappointed in the Gamo PT-85. Just shooting the pistol places stress on the mechanism that holds the rotary clip pellet system in place. Now the stick just can’t be secured. I will avoid this plastic stick wherever I may find it.

              The Walther CP99 Compact is a bit difficult in how the CO2 cartridge is tightened but it is still workable.

              The pre-Vigilante Crosman revolver is still seen as a reasonable purchase although although some of its more expensive cousins are appealing.

              I hope this find you well and fit. ~ken


              • I’m a plinker. I mean I love accuracy and all but shooting those feral cans just for fun and friendly competition either with myself or some friends is where it’s at for me.
                Firearms are hard to get (especially hand guns and semi-auto rifles) and EXPENSIVE so replicas are a relatively cheap option for me.
                Historical replicas like this one, the luger p08 and the Mauser broom handle are just the icing on the cake in terms of unobtainable guns.

                I’ll no doubt buy at least one of these SAA Colts and I just bought myself the Colt Python in chrome: https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Colt_Python_CO2_Revolver_Chrome/3441
                and it’s GORGEOUS.

                I love them. I’ll no doubt be getting more of these accurate guns but replicas will always have a place in my airsenal.

                J-F


  17. Edith,

    To begin with, first, let me sincerely apologize to GF1 and you for my ignorance of “so called technology”, I only have one of those stupid, prepaid, cellphones which I use only on very few occasions when I have the need to talk to someone and no photo capability and I do not text,tweet or anything else! I could be wrong (wouldn’t be the first time,and I am sure not the last) but , it sounds to me that these new, so called “smart-phones” should be re-named dumb-down phones if they do this, where is the improvement exactly, when does the “smart” part kick in?

    God forbid, what will happen IF there is no electricity or batteries to charge them? What will people do, especially the younger generation which has become dependent on all of this technology? The vast majority will be literally , “dead in the water”, absolutely frightening, at least to me!

    Sorry for the rant, I get a brainstorm on occasion, on many different things that interest me, at the present time, it happens to be air guns. If, and when I finally act on one of my ideas, I will run it by Tom. We are about the same age and have at least a few things in common.

    Sincerely:

    Bugbuster


  18. Question,…Why does it appear that a .177 and .22 rifle,..(of the same model),…have the same power plant? I would think that a .22 would have a “bigger” or “more powerfull” power plant to give it a higher fps similar to that of the .177 version.

    There must be a reason, but I have never heard it discussed.


    • Chris, USA,

      For the same reason they put an 8 cylinder motor into a small car and a larger one. They both can use the power, just differently. It would be far too expensive to design the powerplants differently for every caliber.

      B.B.



  19. BB- Are the “cartridges” for these bb pistols interchangeable ? Hollywood used a blank cartridge called the “5 in one” because it could be used in a variety of firearms. I would like to see one cartridge that would fit in all of the replica guns. Ed




      • I have several Crossman 38 ts that I stored with a co2 cartridge tipped with pellgun oil. Took them out to check and all are leaking. Do you use routine transmission fluid or is there a special type to use to stop the leaking? 2 of these were resealed prior to storing


        • Michaelr,

          First, let’s get something straight. The Crosman 38T is not a gun that will hold a charge very long. It’s design precludes holding gas pressure for a long time.

          Next, even a 38T should hold for a couple days. Are your guns not doing that?

          I use automatic transmission sealant, but I think perhaps you may not have a problem.

          B.B.



            • Michaelr,

              Okay, that’s a leaker. Auto trans fluid isn’t going to fis it, either. You need new seals.

              The SA-6 is made to store gas, but the 38T has parts that vibrate loose and cannot contain the gas pressure very long.

              That’s why I said what I did.

              B.B.



  20. Kudos to the Daisy co. My 10 month old M14 has started to leak (from the co2 mag.) One simple E mail to their customer service dept. and a replacement mag is on the way. Ed




      • Gunfun,
        That’s what I was hoping for too, after all we all shared it through e-mails and I don’t know how many other readers had any idea what we were talking about. I like the knowledge that if necessary I stand a chance against a charging coyote, It’s happened to my dog companion before in the Piney woods of East Tex and all I could do was yell and cross my fingers. Can you please send me your address again?
        Good to be back! but might be on the road again in a couple hrs.
        Reb


  21. hi.i don’t have inside info. but anyone can see it coming and soon. very soon. just check out the Winchester lever action airsoft rifles that shoot plastic bbs. they are much better looking replicas of the real deal than the walther lever action. and a lot cheaper. take a look at some of the airsoft sites like redwolf airsoft and e-hobby asia. it won’t be long. I tells ya. and they are going to look great over my fireplace right beside my 2 colt co2 peacemakers. lol.


  22. just when i thought i had all the airguns i wanted they had to come out with this,must resisted maybe it not accurate .if it is i might as well start saving now.


  23. My airgun “collection”, just a few users, really was as complete as I needed, and at 72 I decided not to even look at buying any more. Now, with the Webley .455 revolver and this revolver, Umarex is breaking down my resolve. Now, if they ever do the Smith & Wesson .44 Russian revolver, I will surrender!

    We live in great times for airguns!


  24. I must be in the minority, but my level of interest in “replica” bb guns is near ZERO. Would not want one if it were free. I find it puzzling that so many of you seem enthusiastic. None of them seem to have accuracy or decent velocity. If all it has to do is look like the real thing and pop out a BB at 400 fps… ho-hum. Am I alone in this thinking?



    • You’re not alone. I stopped wanting BB guns when I got my first pellet gun with rifled barrel. I’m also amazed at the interest but happy to see people so excited about something they want.
      I’m holding out for the “earth shattering” announcement that B.B. promised us last month.


    • You’re not, I look at BB guns as interesting curios, I think it’s a cultural thing, we weren’t brought up with a Red Ryder……I didn’t know what one was until about 6 months ago…..but rather small spring piston rifles like the BSA Cadet or Diana 16, and pistols like the Webley Junior, or more in my era the BSA Meteor, Webley Hawk or Diana 23 with a sideorder of Webley Tempest….BB guns, when they did squeeze through were reveiwed as a potential eyesight hazard and too weak, however, until recently, in the US they were never taken seriously as pest control guns I guess and people moved straight from their Daisy to a 22LR if that was a need…..over here most farmers had a BSA springer and a side by side 12 bore for crows.
      That said, I love the looks of the Webley which touches an Englishmans romantic notions every bit as much as the Colt does over there.
      Two things stop me from owning one, firstly its a silly price here, for what will essentially be a toy and secondly, though our police don’t habitually carry arms, they can call in some that do, and given they’ve merrily shot down people drunkenly brandishing an assortment of cricket bats, purses and mobile phones in recent years….lets say they seem a touch over keen when they do….playing with one in the garden, gives me pause for thought.


  25. JerryC—You are not alone, I agree. Years ago I bought a Walther PPK. It is my most unused co2 pistol. No one ( myself, family, friends) like reloading the bb magazines. We all complain about the lack of accuracy, fixed sights and jams when it is fired rapidly. I should like it because I have a PPK S in .380 cal., but I don’t. I put accuracy and adjustable sights first. If it happens to look like a real firearm, so much the better. Last August I enjoyed outshooting my friend,s S&W pellet revolver with my Crosman 357 and my 38T. He also shot better scores with my guns. I was using Daisy wadcutters, and he used more expensive target pellets. We shot for score and for groups from a sandbag rest. I could go on, but it is past my bedtime. Nighty night Ed



  26. I’ve been shooting Cowboy Action now for a few years. ‘twould be nice to have a revolver I could practice with at home. A bb pistol is fine if I can get minute-of-cardboard-badguy at 10m. BB, is there any reason a lead ball wouldn’t work in this gun? That should make it safe for shooting steel. Any chance you could try it out?


  27. Rocketpi,

    Welcome to the blog.

    I normally do not shoot lead balls in BB guns because their large size leads to jamming, but in this case it might be worth testing. I will try it carefully and I’ll stop if I see any signs of danger to the gun.

    B.B.


  28. B.B.,

    How does the cylinder lock up in this replica? Does it have a bolt which drops into the scalloped notches of the cylinder like a real one, and if so what is the cylinder made of? What components actually control the timing?

    Bugbuster


  29. It’s a great time to be shopping for a replacement to my old Crosman 357, which finally fell apart. There are so many options! I am wondering (from the point of longevity) if this or the Webley top break would last the longest? The CO2 revolver I had prior to the 357 was actually a Shiloh, and it got recycled for useable parts after the cylinder started skipping and the valve gave up the ghost.




  30. I like it. Makes me sorry I just sold off my black powder version I got in a trade. One reason I like these guns is because they are so close to the real deal I can train with them at home so when it’s time to use the real deal I’m so well trained with it I perform as if I went to the range all day every day and only spent a tiny fraction of what I would have spent had I used the real deal.


    • If you get a pair ,which I will , to start, you can practice gunfighter , alternating left and right hand. Would start by getting good with your weak hand duelist style first. Should be a lot of fun.


      • I likely would only get one. My pistols skills I admit are weak off hand pistol I’m lucky if I can hit a barn wall while standing in the barn. I’d pick up one of these simply because they function very much like the real gun as far as how it loads and functions just so I can have the experience of shooting one without the expense.


  31. It’s official, Umarex and Pyramyd Air are working together to take all my money! Every time I think that it will be ages before anyone makes some airgun worth adding to the collection, they come out with other winner. I have been waiting for this gun for years.


  32. “LOVE IT”—I have been hoping and waiting for this to turn up to go with the other lookalikes that I have . I have a Colt .44 spcl. with a 5.5 in. bbl that looks just like this one and when I show my other BB guns to people they think they are the real thing until I point out the fact that they are not. I think this Colt will do the same. I am 80 and my wife thinks I am in my second childhood and that is OK because I am having as much fun as I did in my first with BB guns shooting flys with my Red Ryder.


  33. This sample seems to be complete with PAT numbers on the lower left side frame. The PA photos seem to be painted ? I’ll get two if it’s as pictured above !
    Watching old black and white TV westerns I noticed the shooters looked like they were trying to fling the bullets out of the barrel, raising the barrel skyward after each shot. Old theatrics I thought …. but no. I eventually found out it was a rapid fire technique. The pistol recoil was used to kick up the gun and slide the grip down lower in the palm resulting in the thumb being positioned right over the hammer and gun pointing upward. Throwing the arm down to the firing position performed two things, the grip returned to a normal firing position and the hammer was cocked under the thumb at the same time…. Safe?… don’t think it was a big priority back then. Early “Slam fire”


    • Bob M,

      Welcome to the blog.

      The gun I’m testing is one of a few sent from Europe for testing. The regular supplies have not arrived. Europe also sent the photos we are using on the PA website, and those are of a gun that is apparently earlier and not the production model.

      The gun as pictured in this article is supposed to be exactly what will show up when they arrive next month.

      B.B.


      • Maybe the nickel version will look better also? Even though I would assume nickel plating should be nickel plating so can’t go wrong. I ordered it before I saw your blog with the nice photo of the blued gun. When the Luger with the toggle came out I thought it was interesting and put it on my wish list. It’s funny that I felt I had to have the Colt SAA and ordered it within 20 minutes after seeing it on the PA website.


  34. Just for the record ,while some Colt SAA may have left the factory as all blue , they were case hardened using a cyanide based process from the beginning. That was changed after the smokeless powder guns arrived. I saw a specimen that was one of the first 25 to leave Colt ,and it had a case hardened frame that had survived over 100 years. It would not be difficult to use a case coloring , not heat based .applied to these alloy frames . Would look nice. They should also offer grip medallions and maybe black Horse and Eagle grips


  35. Pyramid sent me an email yesterday, advertising this Umarex/Colt, and I went to your blog to read what you have to say about it. Wish the review was complete, as I quickly became mesmerized primarily by your photos! They should be the ones that Pyramid uses on the sale page. The stock photos don’t do the piece justice. I’ll tell you how much I was affected. Last night I preordered the exact same version that you are reviewing. I think it just might be the finest example of a reproduction on the market today! I simply had to have one of the first to be imported. Ordered eight more sets of cartridges, too! Had to guess how many I might need to keep firing until the CO2 cartridge gives out, as no where on line, except for your review, was it mentioned as to approximate number of good shots to be expected? I guessed that the number might approach 50-60? 54 should be enough for starters. Now, I could use a good 50 loop cartridge belt, or bandoleer, to keep the reloads handy. I’m not sure what caliber size loop belt to buy, as I’m not sure of the size of the brass used for this gun? Can you tell me what it is? .45 cal long colt? .38/.357 ? Other? One question that I have for you, unless I missed it somewhere in this blog and your review – is the barrel a smoothbore (probably, I would guess, since it only shoots BB’s), but should it come with a rifled barrel, why not make it usable for the currently available .177 round lead balls, which could take the rifling of the barrel? That would be a nice touch and a plus for accuracy, which a smooth bore and steel BB’s does not offer. Just a last thought: Your photos and personal excitement sold me on this gun, and I can see no good reason for Pyramid not to use them instead of, or alongside, the stock photos? I think Umarex has a winner here, and it just might outsell nearly any other BB/pellet handgun on the market, except perhaps for the Crossman Vigilante, and only then because of the price differential.

    “Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers!”


  36. I hope they are the same as the pictures. I ordered a nickel one. picture looks nice and shiny. a long time ago I bought the nickel beretta with wood grips. it was not shiny at all more like a dull grey. it looked nowhere near as good as this nickel peacemaker does.



  37. B.B., I don’t remember exactly when you recommended the Benjamin Discovery .22 to me, but it looks more appealing all the time. I am still able to man the hand pump and I am no closer to obtaining more expensive gear. Pistol wise, the Crosman PCP pistols are interesting. Of course, I am assuming they can be charged with a the hand pump, also. ~ken



    • Steve,

      I’m going to say that it can’t. My nickname as a western gunfighter was “Fanner 50,” Because I used to fan my guns a lot. I even had a Colt Bisley (yes, a first generation Bisley) modified so it could take a lot of fanning. And even then I ruined the gun.

      Fanning puts tremendous stress on the bolt, and the frame of the gun, and I doubt this one would last very long if fanned.

      B.B.


  38. What’s to prevent a .177 caliber pellet being used in this pistol? I know there will be a pressure drop caused by the cylinder gap, but at 20 feet – pistol to target range – it might not be too bad. Mine is already ordered and I anticipate, if no bugs arise, I will be ordering two of the gunfighter versions when they come available, probably nickel as sight acquisition is not a consideration in walk-and-draw and “theater” is.

    I still have my Crossman SA but it no longer functions. I bought it new a lot of years ago and it has had thousands of bb’s through it. I am a SA addict and have several Colts and Rugers I use for informal walk-and-draw competitions but they are really expensive to practice and shoot even with reloading. I had in mind to try to find someone to repair the Crossman but given this new pistol, I’ll just retire the Crossman permanently to the shadow box where it has been resident for over 40 years.

    I use a Model 1 Arvo Ojala (now deceased) holster and belt (think “Gunsmoke”) but I use a strong side holster and a crossdraw holster for the second pistol and I can get this rig duplicated in Mexico at a fraction of the cost of a new Arvo rig, however, Arvo’s daughter, Inga Ojala, is still making the Model 1 for less than $500.




    • I have answered this several times. My Colt is a production gun and is how the gun looks when you get it. The photo on the PA website has been of a preproduction gun because that is what Umarex sent to PA. When they get the production photos, they will post them.

      B.B.




  39. BB I just ordered my Peacemaker tonight in the blued finish,it looks amazing. Now a 55 yr old can be a little boy for a bit. I just shoot paper and am kinda new to air gunning,I have purchased a rifle and a couple pistols and shoot in my basement at about 30 ft. Do you think the Peacemaker will put a hole through the tin food cans i shoot or will I need to stick to paper targets? BB you sure are informative and I love reading you blogs,helps me greatly. Have a blessed day.



      • Okay I guess I’ll need to stick to shooting paper and army men and leave the heavier stuff for my break barrel rifles. I’m sure I will get more creative with targets as I become more involved in air gunning. I wish the Peacemaker was here already. Thanks BB for all your help. Have a blessed day.

        John


  40. Well, I am a happy camper.

    I have been waiting on this style of gun for years. I have been shooting a Hahn 45 for a long while now and it will finally get a rest.

    I love everything so far about this Colt. I’m not a stickler for authentic. I ordered the nickle and a few hours later I ordered the blue model plus extra shells.

    Remember the Mattel Fanner Fifty. That started me on the road of “cowboy guns”. Well that and all the westerns on tv. Here is a Mattel commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8qXLxHi9_8

    This is really cool. I am so jazzed.

    Now we need to see a Daisy 76 Pioneer style (Kentucky/Penn.) rifles.


  41. Good day BB. I have a question about how to store my air guns (this pistol when it comes in and my others) should I wipe them down lightly with gun oil and put them in their cases? I’m thinking just between days that I shoot. I have a small range in my basement.I’m new to air gunning. Thanks for you help. Have a blessed day everyone.


    • John,

      Welcome to the blog.

      I am overwhelmed by email and other duties while I’m at the SHOT Show, so I’m not answering questions.

      If you oil the gun, use Ballistol. Always oil the CO2 cartridge before you pierce (only with Crosman Pellgunoil) and you can store this gun charged for weeks.

      B.B.




  42. BB
    Good day Sir. I am anxiously awaiting my Colt Peacemaker to be shipped to me. I had a question,Is it kind of a waste to order extra shells for it as the bbs are loaded in the bottom and I believe can be done with shells still in the gun. I was considering ordering them but held off. Any idea when the U.S Marshal special edition will be available for order? I am a sucker for replicas.
    Thanks in advance BB.

    Have a blessed day.
    ELLICOTT


  43. I load bb pistols with similular shells that way but still like to have some spares. Sometimes they get lost or worn,sometimes I just like to load extras and have them ready


  44. This is so COOL! I pre ordered the nickle one with the thought of the writing on the barrel won’t show as much. having said this I’m fighting myself from ordering the blued one as well. I’ve been hoping for years someone would start making the western revolvers again. (Wishes do come true) lol. know I’m like a kid waiting for Christmas to get here!


  45. So, My Question is this Gun just a Myth!!!!! I ordered mine on Jan 15 with an arrival date estimated at 2/15. then it was 3/24. I checked back today on the arrival is now estimated for 4/20. This seems a bit much, I have been in the MFG industry for many years and if I delivered like this i would not have any customers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    • Jim,

      Welcome to the world of airgunning. Yes, a bit of sarcasm. This is not unusual. The right hand in many cases doesn’t know what the left hand is doing. In some cases, the brain has not been consulted, either, and the hands just flail on their own 🙂

      Edith


      • Jim,

        One more thing. Pyramyd Air stays on top of the suppliers and tries their best to extract realistic delivery dates. In some cases, they’re told 2 months from now they’ll have a product. Then, it appears on their doorstep 3 or 5 days later! What? Are you telling me that the vendor’s shipping department, which said it’ll take 2 months before the product is delivered, actually didn’t know the item was already shipped and would be delivered in just a few days?

        Yeah, it’s that crazy and confusing.

        Edith


  46. hi. has anyone seen the new leveraction rifle from umarex. it is called the duke. I only found it yesterday on the german umarex.de website. but preorders for it; and pictures of it can be made and seen; in Germany on this army surplus store site. http://www.kotteundzeller.de when it does come out I don’t know if it will even be sold over here. anybody seen or heard of it.


  47. thanks for response B.B. I;m from Canada. it will probably be like the walther lever action and there will be no detuned ones for Canada. anyway. I don’t really care for the short barrel underneath; or the ugly big black buttpad I think they ruined the looks of it. I don’t know why they couldn’t just make it look like the real deal that john wayne used in some of his movies. I;ve got the denix replica one with the JW initials on the stock for a wallhanger. if this new one looked the same as it I’d be all over it.


  48. Sorry, I’m a little confused about the finish. Your photos show a bit of a gloss finish to the blued version and I understand that your photography is much better than the Umarex, but having held it in your hand, is the finish glass, semi-gloss, or matte? Sorry, I’m a bit thick this morning… I spoke to Umarex customer service and the gentleman there could not say which it is. Thanks!


  49. Thanks again for you quick reply. I went to pyramid air yesterday and saw both versions available for pre-order. This morning the blued version is in stock and mine is ready to ship! Hoorah !


  50. B.B., What did you mean when you wrote, “None of this “New Model Ruger” silliness where the loading gate controls the action.” I owned a Ruger .22lr Single Six Convertible once upon a time but I don’t remember the loading gate functioning any different than my .22lr Colt SAA. Thanks!


  51. B.B., BTW, MY Colt SAA BB revolver, blued and ordered the same day you first wrote about it, has shipped a week early and is on its way. I am so excited! At 68, I was raised on TV westerns. I also ordered a leather holster and a 5x by 1.75″ wide web belt to hold it (home dialysis uses sugar in its saltwater solutions so it tends to add pounds, requiring a longer belt.)


  52. I ordered the nickel plate version very early as soon as I knew it was available for preorder. I received mine today March 19 and all I can say is amazing! This is one of the finest CO2 pistols I own. the nickel finish is beautiful, no picture I have seen yet has done it justice. The “feel” of it is just great. The trigger is very light. I have only shot it at about 5 meters in my basement. I haven’t really noticed the accuracy yet but then again I haven’t been trying.I am just having too much fun loading it and shooting it. A fabulous authentic experience!


  53. It was worth the long wait. gun arrived on tues. I put a drop of oil on the moving parts & started shooting. The gun shot pretty much to point of aim. After about forty shots the action smoothed out ,trigger pull has no creep, Its a ringer for the real gun the rebounding hammer looks like a real SAA with the hammer in the quarter cock mode this will become one of my favorits.


  54. i have a nickel on order but couldn’t wait so I ordered the in stock blue version. Will wind up with morethan a few anyhow. Was looking at the international airgun showvideo. apparently a standard wood stock distressed version is available in Europe. They get 50 % of production and the rest gets distributed. worldwide. Of interest was a Duke Winchester. They call it a 92 , but it is a 94, with shorter barrel ,3/4 mag and large loop . Basically a brass frame 1894. I would have done it in blue , and also case color receiver , but still looks preety cool. Interstingly the factory rep said they tested the Peacemaker as a 177 pellet version ,but got better accuracy with the bb due to the air system. Go figger.Still would not be surprised to see a pellet version down the line. I feel an 1860 percussion pistol loading from the front of the cylinder with a pellet rammer would be the way to go. A natural system


  55. BB
    I just got my Colt Peacemaker yesterday and I love it! I am not a fan of the plastic tab that keeps the grip in place at the top of the grip/co2 side,I’m going to be real careful so not to snap it off. The manual states to place the gun on “Safe” but the hammer does not turn unless the safe is in off position,minor misprint I guess so I just thought I would mention it. It is super quiet also. I’m thankful you did your article on it,helped me decide quickly. Thanks BB.


    • Would be nice to see optional replacement grips. Since it is a licensed Colt product , Black Checkered Horse and Eagle grips would be nice. I leave those on my blue Colt Peacemakers ,like the look and feel. My Nickel revolvers get Sambar stag. Would be nice to see synthetic stag and white pearlite with Colt Medallions


  56. Got my blued version today. You called it; photos don’t do it justice. Really well done and they did a masterful job of it. I had the Crosman 45 as a kid and this is a huge step up. Thanks for the tip.
    I guess now I have to save for the Duke rifle


  57. I queried Umarex about the release date in the US for the lever action Duke rifle. Here is their response, minus the rep’s name:

    “Good Morning,

    To the best of my knowledge that is not a rifle that is going to be released in the United States.

    Thank You,”


  58. Tom,

    I contacted Umarex customer support about my leaking gun and got this reply “If you are using the Crossman brand CO2, we would suggest trying ANY other brand of C02 as we’ve noticed that the neck length of Crossman C02 cylinders will many times be shorter and therefore not allowing the tip to fully seat inside the valve. This results in a tiny gap through which the C02 will escape usually when inserting a new cartridge. If you are not using a Crossman cartridge, usually a leak occurs when the CO2 has been left in the gun during storage even for overnight causing the seals to crack and develop a leak. It states in the owner’s manual to remove the CO2 after use before storage.” This make less then any sense, Have you had any problems using Crosman CO2?

    Thanks,

    Klink


  59. Tom,

    So do I, I’ve never touched any other brand then crosman. I’ve decided to take your advice and have mailed the gun back for exchange, I love the looks and accuracy of that thing and can’t wait to get one that doesn’t leak.

    Thanks,

    Klink.


  60. Mr. B.B. Pelletier I have an idea for a pellet gun that I think would sell like hot cakes. You take an average single shot spring piston pellet gun that is .22 or .177 but add another barrel. So you would have a side by side double barrel pellet gun that would shoot at about 400-500 fps depending on your calibre. Why I chose so less powerful because in Canada you need a gun license to own a pellet gun 500 fps and more, but since you would be shooting 2 barrels without having to re-cock the gun to reload the pressure so when you Cock the gun initially it would be storing about a thousand Fps. It would be average size with one trigger that would shoot the right barrel then the left and you can eventually be able to choose between one barrel one calibre and the other another caliber.
    What do you think about my idea?
    Cowboy Kid,


  61. The pre-production photo, showing ivory type grips, obviously show that the grip size is not authentic. It is longer and similar to an 1860 percussion army Colt, not the SAA. From the looks of the grip frame internals, they could have shortened the frame nearly a quarter inch, but it may have compromies strengh around the tightening nut. A small tradoff, however, for a Colt BB SA.


  62. I recently purchased a Colt Peacemaker CO2 revolver. Upon unwrapping it, I discovered that the cylinder locking bolt was stuck in the “up” position which prevents the cylinder from turning when the hammer is cocked. This is true whether the safety is in either the “fire” or “safe” position. I can slip a knife blade under the cylinder and press down on the bolt and the cylinder will rotate. I have asked for either a repair or replacement of my gun. I guess mine slipped past the inspectors before it was shipped. Makes me wonder how the cartridges were inserted in the cylinder. Otherwise, the gun appears to be very well-made.


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