Walther LP2 target pistol: Part 3

by Tom Gaylord
Writing as B.B. Pelletier

Walther LP2 left
Walther LP2 single stroke pneumatic target pistol.

Part 1
Part 2

History of airguns

This report covers:

  • The test
  • H&N Finale Match Light
  • Adjusted the rear sight
  • Second Finale Match Light group
  • The trigger
  • Gamo Match
  • H&N Match Green
  • Sig Match Ballistic Alloy
  • RWS R10 Match Pistol
  • Discussion
  • Summary

Today  we look at the accuracy of the Walther LP2 single-stroke-pneumatic air pistol. We saw the test group that came with the pistol in Part 2. It’s serial-numbered to this pistol, so we have a good point of comparison.

You will remember that this pistol was resealed by Scott Pilkington for the velocity test in Part 2. With lightweight target pellets the pistol averages 330-350 f.p.s. That’s not blistering, but a 10-meter pistol doesn’t need to be. What it does need is a good trigger, good sights and a good ergonomic set of grips. Let’s see what this LP2 has.

The test

I shot off a sandbag rest from 10 meters with the butt of the pistol rested on the bag. Because the LP2 is pneumatic there isn’t any recoil to speak of, so a bag rest works well. I decided to shoot five-shot groups today so I can shoot more pellets. That’s my normal approach when a target gun is being tested. Also you have to remember that the LP2 needs to be pumped for every shot, so it’s a little work to shoot.

I deep-seated all pellets used in today’s test with a ballpoint pen. The seating depths differed slightly from the differing thicknesses of the pellet skirts.

H&N Finale Match Light

First I tried five H&N Finale Match Light pellets. The gun was cold when I started (room temperature, but not shot recently), so I shot 5 rounds and let them go where they wanted to. I used a 6 o’clock hold on the bull of a 10-meter pistol target. The first pellet struck right below the bull at 6 o’clock, but the next three pellets climbed into the black. Some of that is my imprecision, but I think a little could also be the new piston seal warming up. The fifth shot landed next to the first one (that’s probably me) and the 5-shot group measures 0.63-inches between centers.

Walther LP2 sight-in
Sighting-in with 5 H&N Finale Match Light pellets made this 0.63-inch group at 10 meters. I think the pellets climbed higher as the piston seal warmed up. It’s not the  best group, but considering the circumstances (as in sighting-in), it isn’t too bad.

Adjusted the rear sight

After seeing this group I adjusted the rear sight up by three clicks. I will report that the LP2 rear sight has definite clicks that I like a lot. It also has something I’ve never seen before but I now want it on all my target rear sights. There is a single white dot on both sight adjustment screws that allows you to easily see that the sight has been adjusted. In a noisy room you may not be able to hear the clicks, but you should be able to see this dot every time. I like it!

Walther LP2 rear sight
That white dot at the bottom of the elevation adjustment screw tells the shooter that the sight adjustment screw has been turned. The screw head has a slot for a coin. No doubt it’s a German coin like a one pfennig coin, but an American penny or dime will also work. I used the screwdriver blade of my Swiss Army Midnight Manager knife.

Second Finale Match Light group

The second 5-shot group of Finale Match Light pellets struck the target higher and in line with the center of the bull. This group was also a little smaller โ€” perhaps due to the piston seal being warmed up. Five H&N Finale Match Light pellets went into 0.382-inches at 10 meters. It’s a very good group, but not as small as a modern 10-meter pistol would produce.

Walther LP2 Finale group
Five H&N Finale Match Light pellets made this 0.382-inch group at 10 meters in the LP2. This is the best group of the test, but the test group that came with the pistol is less than half that size, at 0.145-inches. Old BB has a way to go to beat it.

The trigger

I can now comment on the LP2 trigger. It’s gorgeous! Stage one is smooth with a definite stop at stage 2. Stage 2 breaks cleanly. I have it set at exactly one pound which is 2 ounces too light to compete in matches, but since the LP2 isn’t competitive it doesn’t matter.

Gamo Match

The next pellet I tested was the Gamo Match. They are a budget pellet that sometimes surprise me with their accuracy. This time, though, there wasn’t a lot of joy. Five pellets landed in 0.707-inches at 10 meters. This is probably not the best pellet for this pistol.

Walther LP2 Gamo Match group
The LP2 shot five Gamo Match pellets into 0.707-inches at 10 meters.

H&N Match Green

I shot the lead-free H&N Match Green pellet next. These weigh the same 5.25-grains as the Sig Match Ballistic Alloy pellets and H&N makes both of them, but I have found those two pellets to give widely different performance. Five of these went into 0.534-inches at 10 meters. Not bad!

Walther LP2 HN Match Green group
The LP2 likes H&N Match Green pellets. Five went into 0.534-inches at 10 meters.

Sig Match Ballistic Alloy

Next to be tried were five Sig Match Ballistic Alloy pellets. They do resemble the H&N Match Green pellets, but they don’t perform the same, as you are about to see. From the LP2 five pellets made a group that measures 0.993-inches between centers at 10 meters. This is obviously not the right pellet for the LP2, and it is the largest group of the test.

Walther LP2 Sig Match Ballistic Alloy
Five Sig Match Ballistic Alloy pellets went into 0.993-inches at 10 meters. 

RWS R10 Match Pistol

The last pellet I tested was the venerable RWS R10 Match Pistol pellet. At ten meters the LP2 put five of them in a group that measures 0.708-inches between centers. It surprised me because I thought the R10 would either be the best of second-best. But it ranks fourth today, by a slim margin.

Walthewr LP2 R10 Pistol
The LP2 put five RWS R10 Match Pistol pellets in a 0.708-inch group at 10 meters.

Discussion

Well, that’s the test. H&N Finale Match Light pellets were the best and Sig Match Ballistic Alloy were the worst.

The pistol now has reasonable velocity for a target pistol. Scott Pilkington was able to return it to the factory spec.

The trigger is very nice. Only a modern high-end 10-meter target pistol has a better one. I would rate it as slightly better than the IZH46M trigger. This seems to be common among high-end target airguns from the 1960s. The FWB 300S trigger is also hard to beat, even today.

Summary

That’s our look at a target pistol from way back whenโ€ฆ The Walther LP3 is more common than the 2 and probably a better air pistol to purchase. But once the valve is repaired the LP2 is a goodie!

59 thoughts on “Walther LP2 target pistol: Part 3





  1. BB

    Like many others I like the looks of this pistol. You donโ€™t have time for such but I would try every promising pellet in my inventory. Next would be different ways to rest it on bag. Maybe a golf glove would ease the repeated pumping.

    Glad your blog is up and running.

    Deck



      • BB,

        Is there any option to improve the grips on this? I get that this is more of a historical piece, but I recently decided to dip my toe in the target pistol space by trying out an Air Arms Alpha, and it is amazing the difference the grips make to the ability to shoot it well.

        Alan





      • BB,

        It is supposed to be,… keep a large cache of ammo and eat the cookies! (sugar free, of course). ๐Ÿ˜‰

        Chris

        Geo might know better, but that CCleaner that he recommended seems to work great for clearing out the junk. Free download and takes about 30 seconds to run each time.


        • Yup, I still use and recommend Ccleaner to keep the system lean and mean. I only recommend using the portable version of Ccleaner though. Ccleaner was owned by a company named Piriform from 2004 until 2017 at which time it was sold to Avast. Some say that it is not safe to use because Avast is a Chinese company. It is perfectly safe and only use the portable version and you won’t be nagged all the time. DO NOT USE THE REGISTRY CLEANER! Using that feature of the program can cause major problems.
          Geo


  2. B.B.,

    Do we get a Saturday blog to make up for the lost time?

    Siraniko

    PS: Section Summary last sentence: “But one (once) the valve is repaired the LP2 is a goodie!”




  3. If people have never shot a FWB 300 they should. Not only because of experiencing the trigger.

    My FWB 300 will put pcp guns in their place at 50 yards. Of course it’s got some slight modding done to it by me. ๐Ÿ™‚




        • I’m from Germany. When I started shooting in 1996, the airgun clubs here had cabinets full of FWB300 and similar spring powered match guns from Anschรผtz, Walther, Diana, Hรคmmerli..the serious shooters were transitioning to single stroke Pneumatics such as the FWB601. Until the 2000s, the old springers were basically surplus to the club’s. As a young adult I thought about bulk buying and exporting to the USA. Didn’t do, and today I’m convinced I could have made a fortune.





              • Fish
                So sorry that you have been living life with out a FWB 300.

                But how was you to know about the TR5 without reading the blog. Now all us smart people done the hard work for you. Now you get to get smart for free. I think you should feel a little guilty even. Oh wait a minute. That’s how the blog works. Free knowledge.

                Maybe it’s time for some other readers besides us regulars to contribute. What you got?



                  • Fish
                    Hopefully it stays that way for you.

                    For some reason I get the idea your young.

                    Am I right. But seriously we all was once upon a time. Well you in your 70’s or 80’s yet. I’m hitting 59 this month so there”s older than me on the blog but I ain’t no spring chicken anymore. I done my fair share of dance’n in my time already. It goes by fast.


                  • Fish
                    Hope your right.

                    My dad’s brother died at my age. On the other hand my dad was almost 80.

                    As it goes Time Will Tell.

                    I figure it this way if the good Lord wants me here it will be. If not so be it. There’s a reason for everything. One day we will see.


  4. B.B.,

    I tried to post this in todays blog and it moved to the weekend blog? Could have been me or there is still some site instability!

    “B.B.,

    Very nice shooting with the old girl!

    Errata: Second to last sentence in the report introduction: โ€œWhat is (it) does need is a good trigger, good sights and a good ergonomic set of grips. Letโ€™s see what this LP2 has.

    Glad you and IT got it sorted.

    shootski”

    shootski


  5. “Five H&N Finale Match Light pellets made this 0.382-inch group at 10 meters in the LP2.”
    B.B.,
    That may not be match-grade accuracy by current standards, but that’s pretty good accuracy in my book, and good shooting on your part; it’s nice to see this gal is not just a looker, but is a shooter as well…sweet! =>
    Take care & God bless,
    dave


  6. Airgun trivia: The Walther LP53 was a breakbarrel spring powered air pistol that shared many similarities with the LP2 (the compression tube was in the handle).
    The movie posters for 007-from Moscow with love featured Mr. Bind holding a Walther LP53 air pistol. Depending on the source, it was either because the photographer deemed the PPK to be too small, or they forgot to bring the PPK pistol to the photo shoot.



  7. I find the differences between the SIG and H&N Greens fascinating. They look the same, weigh the same, made by the same company with the same objectives (by that I mean they’re just supposed to be a non-lead alternative to a regular pellet unlike some of the other non-lead ammunition which made great claims of amazingly high velocity and impact) but they perform so differently in the same pistol. That’s probably one of the most important things I’ve learned here – just because a certain pellet works beautifully in one gun it doesn’t guarantee that it will perform as well in another. In may case the H&N lead match pellets and the Green match pellets have been a good match for my guns.

    For me that lesson along with the ones about the artillery hold and the “1911” grip have been of immense value.





  8. BB,

    Your competition days are showing. I myself would have left that pistol shooting where I sighted, but you had to move it up to hit target center. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    That has to be some kind of trigger to be better than my Izzy.

    About those Sig pellets, I know your source of information about such things is better than mine, but I received some Sig lead round nose pellets for Father’s Day that are made in Brazil.



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